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who ready for moon here $60m market cap in first two days it hits polo. $60m marketcap is a little too conservative for this coin and the team behind it. $300m to $500m marketcap is more like it. yeah, this is cool - you made my day there's no product, just nothing except ICO funds and you really think market is gonna pay x30-x50 within first 2 days ? what's the value behind $500M market cap? There is definitely some content ready. For now, the ICNX index is ready and already published on the website + a Slovenian finance journal, The perf.fund will be opened in Q4, and the platform should follow soon after. It will probably take - at least - a few months to get the first results on the perf.fund, I'll give you that. Same for the platform which doesn't only have to be operationnal, but attract new FIAT monies and fund managers too. I agree with you that it won't skyrocket on day one, but I expect it in a matter of months, one year tops.
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Which ever it is, lets just hope ICN team will do their best to develop and give us dividends for the rest of our lives. Jani wants us to expect ICN to be on the best exchange, which do you think it is?
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I'm glad to inaugurate the300th pageGET!
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Though I agree that all blog posts definitely aren't equal in quality, I'm a bit surprised by this decision to change the calculation rules of a month-long bounty campaign during the last two hours... On top of that, looking at the google sheets for accepted blog posts, I was wondering if they would be able to review all the blog posts by the deadline they set (today, 6 PM). And 2 hours before closing, they now add an extra layer of reviewing ? Wow, let's wait and see. EDIT : I just saw that my second article (French one) was refused RIGHT NOW, after being accepted for almost two weeks. It's definitely original content, not an ANN translation, more than 1000 characters, with two links to the ICO.
I didn't think I would turn into one of those bounty-hunting whiners, but here I am, and this is unfair. I guess I won't get any explanation now, and considering the closing approaching in less than 2 hours, team is apparently just botching their way out of the task now.
Way to go ICONOMI, stay classy. care to link me your french article mate? cheers There you go bruv https://medium.com/@vincent.rvt/quest-ce-qu-iconomi-et-pourquoi-investir-2dc1147cc5fc#.f9iyuzrx6That's an excellent article mate. I hope you get that bounty sorted. Merci. Medium stats on the last hour are exploding for this article BTW. I hope so, although I've pretty much given up, if they were to do something about it, I would have heard / status would have changed, by now..
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Blog 435-439 on the list is the same person who just spammed out blogs and he's getting 60 stakes per blog = 21176.4706 ICN WTF?
Must be someone's brother or something... This one is really unfair. But not for me it is unfair to the rest of 60 stake blogs. This guy vomited his posts a couple hours before end of ico. How it had an impact on attracting new investors? Exactly less than 1000 and this is extraordinary post? Really? Yes really unfair, 21176.4706 ICN is a serious amount money, I should write a blog about iconomi so I could get the big bounty. Signature bounty pays too little compare to 1 blog. Sladana actually marked one blog in red from this guy afterwards but still, hes getting about 16941.17648 ICN which is too much for blogs that didn't obey the rules and also got next to no content. crap....i just wanna sell my btc - icn as soon as possible...it was mistake.Not good start , killed my trust. Time to go in pub)))Weekends coming !!Btc rizing i love it We can just hope that they change their mind on this issue. I think they won't. This was organized. Otherwise, why working on another sheet instead of the Gdocs, and publishing new rules while copypasting the -prepared- results just before the closing of the bounty campaign ? I'm losing a lot of trust here too. I don't really give a sh#t about 2k ICN but it's more on the principle. The way this has been done feels like a prepared plan to redistribute bounties at the last minute in a more "convenient" way. Convenient for whom ? You tell me. So much for decentralization. So much for so-called transparency. It's a shame because although I like this project, this single event is making me considering a drastic change of strategy. No HODLing anymore. I might just dump everything when satisfied with a bit of profit. If any. I read every now and then that we doivent invest based on emotions. Still, confidence is crucial in crypto. This stinks. Better safe than sorry. There was way too much ICN reserved for bounties. People are getting thousands of dollars worth of ICN for a few minutes of work. A guy gets paid 50 BTC in ICN for moderating and helping out in a thread for a month...seriously that's 30k for a months salary lol. These ICOs are getting annoying with all their bounty crap, the people invested into the ICO should be helping out with blog posts, tweets, and facebook and paying people to do it. Lesson earned, keep my money in my pocket and rape bounties....the bounty whores are making the real cash with zero risk and zero effort. I think nobody was expecting a 16,000 BTC investment. If the amount was ~5000 BTC then the 2% bounty would've been fair. Also the 50 BTC guy had 70,000 views to his thread and 2200+ replies. So that was not for nothing. Agreed, particularly on Skyrik's thread. I don't understand sh#t at Russian, but it seems like the guy made an awesome job. I'm genuinely happy for him he made some serious dough with it. He deserved it. Agreed too, on the fact that no one would've expected to raise that much money, implying huge bounties. But my point isn't about actual values of the bounties. Rather on the "redistribution" which happened in a quite shady last-minute-complete-change-of-rules, at the very very very end of the timeframe used to calculate said bounties. Oh, and the fact that said rules apply to some people, but not to others... Hey what do you expect in the NEW economy, this isnt the OLD (FIAT/Regulated) economy where you get paid POOP. I like your argument. I expect decentralization and transparency, as advertised. I expect communication, which was pretty good when the fundraising was still on, but has gone AWOL since the closing. Just take a look at here + the slack channel. **tumbleweed passing** Last but not least, I expect contents, which were delivered a lot until now (except for the actual funds doc), so I'm pretty happy with that. But let's be honest, out of this almost 300 pages thread, there are 50 pages of lambos, 50 of bounty whining - which I'm not so proud to now be a part of -, 50 of approximative-english p'n'd posts saying "to da moon", just checking in for the sig bounties, 100 pages of dumb questions which were, most of the times, answered in the very page, the previous pages or the blog posts. This gives us what, 50 pages of actual content ? Let's go to Reddit already, and upvote what actually matters. You'd be surprised about the upvoting on the recent change in the calculation of bounties. But, yeah, I forgot we can't go to reddit anymore because the AMA and a certain "weirdgod" messed up a bit there.
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Blog 435-439 on the list is the same person who just spammed out blogs and he's getting 60 stakes per blog = 21176.4706 ICN WTF?
Must be someone's brother or something... This one is really unfair. But not for me it is unfair to the rest of 60 stake blogs. This guy vomited his posts a couple hours before end of ico. How it had an impact on attracting new investors? Exactly less than 1000 and this is extraordinary post? Really? Yes really unfair, 21176.4706 ICN is a serious amount money, I should write a blog about iconomi so I could get the big bounty. Signature bounty pays too little compare to 1 blog. Sladana actually marked one blog in red from this guy afterwards but still, hes getting about 16941.17648 ICN which is too much for blogs that didn't obey the rules and also got next to no content. crap....i just wanna sell my btc - icn as soon as possible...it was mistake.Not good start , killed my trust. Time to go in pub)))Weekends coming !!Btc rizing i love it We can just hope that they change their mind on this issue. I think they won't. This was organized. Otherwise, why working on another sheet instead of the Gdocs, and publishing new rules while copypasting the -prepared- results just before the closing of the bounty campaign ? I'm losing a lot of trust here too. I don't really give a sh#t about 2k ICN but it's more on the principle. The way this has been done feels like a prepared plan to redistribute bounties at the last minute in a more "convenient" way. Convenient for whom ? You tell me. So much for decentralization. So much for so-called transparency. It's a shame because although I like this project, this single event is making me considering a drastic change of strategy. No HODLing anymore. I might just dump everything when satisfied with a bit of profit. If any. I read every now and then that we doivent invest based on emotions. Still, confidence is crucial in crypto. This stinks. Better safe than sorry. There was way too much ICN reserved for bounties. People are getting thousands of dollars worth of ICN for a few minutes of work. A guy gets paid 50 BTC in ICN for moderating and helping out in a thread for a month...seriously that's 30k for a months salary lol. These ICOs are getting annoying with all their bounty crap, the people invested into the ICO should be helping out with blog posts, tweets, and facebook and paying people to do it. Lesson earned, keep my money in my pocket and rape bounties....the bounty whores are making the real cash with zero risk and zero effort. I think nobody was expecting a 16,000 BTC investment. If the amount was ~5000 BTC then the 2% bounty would've been fair. Also the 50 BTC guy had 70,000 views to his thread and 2200+ replies. So that was not for nothing. Agreed, particularly on Skyrik's thread. I don't understand sh#t at Russian, but it seems like the guy made an awesome job. I'm genuinely happy for him he made some serious dough with it. He deserved it. Agreed too, on the fact that no one would've expected to raise that much money, implying huge bounties. But my point isn't about actual values of the bounties. Rather on the "redistribution" which happened in a quite shady last-minute-complete-change-of-rules, at the very very very end of the timeframe used to calculate said bounties. Oh, and the fact that said rules apply to some people, but not to others...
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Blog 435-439 on the list is the same person who just spammed out blogs and he's getting 60 stakes per blog = 21176.4706 ICN WTF?
Must be someone's brother or something... This one is really unfair. But not for me it is unfair to the rest of 60 stake blogs. This guy vomited his posts a couple hours before end of ico. How it had an impact on attracting new investors? Exactly less than 1000 and this is extraordinary post? Really? Yes really unfair, 21176.4706 ICN is a serious amount money, I should write a blog about iconomi so I could get the big bounty. Signature bounty pays too little compare to 1 blog. Sladana actually marked one blog in red from this guy afterwards but still, hes getting about 16941.17648 ICN which is too much for blogs that didn't obey the rules and also got next to no content. crap....i just wanna sell my btc - icn as soon as possible...it was mistake.Not good start , killed my trust. Time to go in pub)))Weekends coming !!Btc rizing i love it We can just hope that they change their mind on this issue. I think they won't. This was organized. Otherwise, why working on another sheet instead of the Gdocs, and publishing new rules while copypasting the -prepared- results just before the closing of the bounty campaign ? So much for transparency.I'm losing a lot of trust here too. I don't really give a sh#t about 2k ICN but it's more on the principle. The way this has been done feels like a prepared plan to redistribute bounties at the last minute in a more "convenient" way. Convenient for whom ? You tell me. So much for decentralization.It's a shame because although I like this project and its team, this single event is making me considering a drastic change of strategy. No HODLing anymore. I might just dump everything when satisfied with a bit of profit. If any. I read every now and then that we shouldn't invest based on emotions. Still, confidence is crucial in crypto. This stinks. Better safe than sorry. Edit : motherloving french autocorrect
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I can see them updating blog list live So much fun lets bet something Lets bet for 1 ICN that there will be about 17 posts with 60 points 24 people monitoring Sladana copy pasting She's done !! there are : 131 * 10 stakes 52 * 30 stakes 23 * 60 stakes TOTAL 4250 stakes Blog bounty for 10 stakes (per article) : 705.882353 ICNBlog bounty for 30 stakes (per article) : 2117.64706 ICNBlog bounty for 60 stakes (per article) : 4235.29412 ICNAll of this to say that I've been stripped of about 2117 ICN (a bit less, since each stake would have been worth slightly less in that case) I'll think about that when each ICN is worth $1.... Blog 435-439 on the list is the same person who just spammed out blogs and he's getting 60 stakes per blog = 21176.4706 ICN WTF? Must be someone's brother or something...
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I can see them updating blog list live So much fun lets bet something Lets bet for 1 ICN that there will be about 17 posts with 60 points 24 people monitoring Sladana copy pasting She's done !! there are : 131 * 10 stakes 52 * 30 stakes 23 * 60 stakes TOTAL 4250 stakes Blog bounty for 10 stakes (per article) : 705.882353 ICNBlog bounty for 30 stakes (per article) : 2117.64706 ICNBlog bounty for 60 stakes (per article) : 4235.29412 ICNAll of this to say that I've been stripped of about 2117 ICN (a bit less, since each stake would have been worth slightly less in that case) I'll think about that when each ICN is worth $1....
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I can see them updating blog list live So much fun lets bet something Lets bet for 1 ICN that there will be about 17 posts with 60 points 24 people monitoring Sladana copy pasting
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If you do a poor job, i deserve a payment for a poor job.
Simple
you wrong,if you invested a lot of btc and decide to make some extra by making the blog after reading rules and deciding to share 300 000 equal icn,and boom! last hours you getting rule change....i wish i concentrating on bounty and blog + translations instead of investing....first ico and first mistake lol Fair point, I guess if anyone knew how the rules would change, he could have earned a lot of ICN without even investing a single sat'. Of course no one knew the rules would change, that would take insider info and that doesn't exist in the real -unregulated- world of crypto... Right now, it's a bit like : - Fuck your rules, I make my own! - Yeah, but it's your rules that state that [...] - Then, fuck MY rules, I make my NEW own...
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Though I agree that all blog posts definitely aren't equal in quality, I'm a bit surprised by this decision to change the calculation rules of a month-long bounty campaign during the last two hours... On top of that, looking at the google sheets for accepted blog posts, I was wondering if they would be able to review all the blog posts by the deadline they set (today, 6 PM). And 2 hours before closing, they now add an extra layer of reviewing ? Wow, let's wait and see. EDIT : I just saw that my second article (French one) was refused RIGHT NOW, after being accepted for almost two weeks. It's definitely original content, not an ANN translation, more than 1000 characters, with two links to the ICO.
I didn't think I would turn into one of those bounty-hunting whiners, but here I am, and this is unfair. I guess I won't get any explanation now, and considering the closing approaching in less than 2 hours, team is apparently just botching their way out of the task now.
Way to go ICONOMI, stay classy. care to link me your french article mate? cheers There you go bruv https://medium.com/@vincent.rvt/quest-ce-qu-iconomi-et-pourquoi-investir-2dc1147cc5fc#.f9iyuzrx6
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If you do a poor job, i deserve a payment for a poor job.
Simple
Agreed.
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Though I agree that all blog posts definitely aren't equal in quality, I'm a bit surprised by this decision to change the calculation rules of a month-long bounty campaign during the last two hours... On top of that, looking at the google sheets for accepted blog posts, I was wondering if they would be able to review all the blog posts by the deadline they set (today, 6 PM). And 2 hours before closing, they now add an extra layer of reviewing ? Wow, let's wait and see. EDIT : I just saw that my second article (French one) was refused RIGHT NOW, after being accepted for almost two weeks. It's definitely original content, not an ANN translation, more than 1000 characters, with two links to the ICO.
I didn't think I would turn into one of those bounty-hunting whiners, but here I am, and this is unfair. I guess I won't get any explanation now, and considering the closing approaching in less than 2 hours, team is apparently just botching their way out of the task now.
Way to go ICONOMI, stay classy.
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I don't really get it. do you HAVE to send your ID even when you only have small amounts of tokens? I really don't want my ID ending in the darknet.
Nope. Just read the post. ID is required if you invested in FIAT, and if you invested more than 1000 EUR or 1000 USD. Any FIAT investment below that threshold or in crypto, whatever the amount, isn't subject to ID providing.
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If ICN hás the same incrise like pesobit, it will be awesome.
Pesobit Just hit 18x ico price in Just few days.
The market still good for altcoins
It's more easy for a small coin pump the initial price, probably it will decrease the price soon Hope ICONOMI can have a stable road. If everyone could just HODL until the platform goes live and the first dividends start to add up, we would all be rich people in a matter of months. Oh damn, daydreaming again ...
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In the list of tokens Myetherwallet not figure ICN. Explanation please
Iconomi team has nothing to do with that. You should probably contact myetherwallet directly and ask them if they're prepared to add it.
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Thanks, and also thanks to the other guy. I hope you're right and there is no issue. I was under the impression that funds will be transferred to the Iconomi platform once the ICO is over. Nevertheless I'm a bit worried that they have not been able to respond within a week. Accepting this kind of money comes with certain responsibilities. They're probably dealing with thousands of emails right now, on top of having to deal with the BCT, slack, twitter, reddit and telegram threads. It must be a bit tricky to prioritize, particularly when you have to sort out the actual investors experiencing actual problems, and the bounty hunters, spammers, pseudo propositions of collaboration and "to the moon" BS. I guess you'll have to be patient if you want to receive your very own official reply.
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Any news on exchanges
No, and there won't be until the tokens are released. That is, Oct. 11th at best.
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Hey everyone,
Since the new KYC+2FA update on the ICO website, I got myself new fiscal questions here :
I made two investments in the ICO, one is EUR, one is ETH. I was above the FIAT threshold for the EUR deposit (still banging my head against the wall for that), therefore had to fill in the KYC form, which means ICONOMI now has my personal details.
What happens if they get investigated by the IRS (ofc, a "kind-of IRS", I mean any EU fiscal gov entity) ? I know we're in uncharted territory here, but I see two problems :
First, the ETH-EUR split. Would the team have to declare the EUR deposits only, or both FIAT and crypto deposits, for the accounts which were credited with both ?
Second, considering one can just send the tokens to an ethereum wallet and from there, doing pretty much anything "off the grid" (sending to another address, to an exchange, etc), what's the point of collecting these personal details if they become useless as soon as the tokens leave the website ? I guess it's for regulation / compliance purposes, but, am I missing something here ?? Could those details still be of any use ?
Anyone is / has been in the same situation ? Any tips from the community ?
Thanks.
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