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41  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Tezos discussion on: December 10, 2017, 03:50:06 AM
Does Tezos Air is cleared regarding Case and husband and wife issues
and are we on track of release of product

Where do you people come up with this stupid shit?
42  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WARNING DeepOnion is a SCAM, proof inside! on: December 06, 2017, 01:08:56 PM
Ponzi is in full swing now, it is cleverly done, but still obvious.

According to DO they gain 500 new members each week. This means each of them has to buy 100 of an otherwise worthless premined coin.

This makes it 500 x 100 x 3.10$ = 155kUS$ each week in free income for the anonymous "developers" while the price is still artificially driven higher and lemming growth increases as well. Wondering if they pay tax on it Wink.

Trading volume is significantly up now, meaning the dump of premined coins has already begun. The threshold to trigger this appears to have been a price of 2.5$ per coin.

Strong basic math there, but I don't see what your actual point is? Surely if this 'dump' had begun the price would be on the decline rather than increasing? Surely and influx in sell orders, then basic economics would say supply outweighs demands and the price falls?

You mention 'artificially driven higher', but don't mention how.

I'm not having a go at you, I just want to understand your point of view and why you are saying these things.

As someone that's part of the community, I can assure you that the dev team and those around them have been nothing but approachable, transparent and helpful. It's genuinely a great, active, community with really really dedicated people.

How can you possibly call a team “transparent”, when you don’t even know who they are?
43  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WARNING DeepOnion is a SCAM, proof inside! on: December 06, 2017, 11:46:45 AM
Ponzi is in full swing now, it is cleverly done, but still obvious.

According to DO they gain 500 new members each week. This means each of them has to buy 100 of an otherwise worthless premined coin.

This makes it 500 x 100 x 3.10$ = 155kUS$ each week in free income for the anonymous "developers" while the price is still artificially driven higher and lemming growth increases as well. Wondering if they pay tax on it Wink.

Trading volume is significantly up now, meaning the dump of premined coins has already begun. The threshold to trigger this appears to have been a price of 2.5$ per coin.

I'm really curious to know how many of the early airdrop participants are sock puppet accounts.
They could have just increased the amount of the coins they keep for themselfs, no need to set up sock puppet accounts. But it shows pretty good that your thoughts are not driven by straight reasoning but paranoia.

No, you don't understand marketing.  Making up a coin and keeping it all for yourself doesn't accomplish anything.  Making up a coin and generating a fuckton of fake buzz about it through a fake "airdrop" campaign using sockpuppet accounts -- now that makes money.
44  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WARNING DeepOnion is a SCAM, proof inside! on: December 06, 2017, 10:31:27 AM
Ponzi is in full swing now, it is cleverly done, but still obvious.

According to DO they gain 500 new members each week. This means each of them has to buy 100 of an otherwise worthless premined coin.

This makes it 500 x 100 x 3.10$ = 155kUS$ each week in free income for the anonymous "developers" while the price is still artificially driven higher and lemming growth increases as well. Wondering if they pay tax on it Wink.

Trading volume is significantly up now, meaning the dump of premined coins has already begun. The threshold to trigger this appears to have been a price of 2.5$ per coin.

I'm really curious to know how many of the early airdrop participants are sock puppet accounts.
45  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WARNING DeepOnion is a SCAM, proof inside! on: December 05, 2017, 06:59:58 PM
The one who has no credibility is your scam developer crypto-rainbow. And yes, he wrote himself that he is from China. Otherwise how could I know? Anyway, what does it matter? What matters is the -16 trust rating he accumulated. That speaks for itself

The dev said you got banned for dumping your airdropped coins and making multiple accounts to cheat the system. 
Well, that also speaks for itself, it is a complete lie. I bought almost 1000 Onions just before I was banned. Maybe you need to ask the monkii guy, because he did it. Not for dumping my coins, which would anyway be 100% legit as they are my coins, no, for speaking up about the domination spam. They wiped their traces, so there is no prove of it either way. But it's not my problem anyway. I do not run a scam operation and I do not need to be afraid of the truth.
Buddy, I may not be sure about the exact reason you were banned from the DeepOnion forum, but seeing your behavior in this thread, the person who banned you was 100% correct in doing so and the rest of the forum a favor. You're like the ex who doesn't understand why he was dumped and keeps stalking his girlfriend. I haven't seen such an obsessive personality in a while. You want my advice? Leave DeepOnion alone and find another crypto to make you profit. What you're doing is a) toxic and b) free advertisement for DeepOnion. So, you're not gaining anything.

Great analysis noobie!!

Oh wait, nobody cares what you think.
46  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA is the next big thing on: December 05, 2017, 10:31:52 AM
https://twitter.com/kylesamani/status/937886293803065345?s=17
47  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WARNING DeepOnion is a SCAM, proof inside! on: December 03, 2017, 02:32:20 PM
...because half of the Onions are already in the hands of investors, miners and members.

Yeah, that is ok. Information and knowledge is power.

But with that thing you are wrong, unless you reduce it to miners. There are millions of preminded coins in the hands of those handful of people who created that community system to drive up the price. Absolutely clever I have to say and I have not seen anything like this before.

Community is key and they are the ones to drive up the price. You could compare it to Ponzi as the new guys coming in have to purchase at least 100 Onions to finance the payout. At least on a monetary basis. It's a bit more difficult here as the coins that are distributed were already part of the premining process and do not carry a value as such. So what is being given is given as a small percentage of opportunity cost from the premined pool.

When they will start selling this, we will immediately see as the trading volume (which does not exist now) will go up. I expect this to happen at the end of the airdrops in 19 weeks, price by then will likely be ~5$.

So, there is still some time to benefit from it, you can do nice arbitrage trading between LTC and BTC in Cryptopia Smiley. Just be careful to get out in time and don't get burnt.

Looking at your profile, Seems like you got paid to shit post shit on DeepOnion.
What are your views on Deepvault ? Have you seen that feature in any other coin ?
I know what your reply will be ... I want people to see what a BIG FOOL YOU ARE Cheesy

Deepvault is a "feature" of essentially every bitcoin clone there is. Storing a hash on the blockchain isn't new or interesting.
48  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ⚡ [ANN] ⚡ DeepOnion TOR ⚡ DeepVault ⚡ Cryptopia 🚀 Airdrop 21 of 40 🚀 New Rules on: December 03, 2017, 01:01:10 PM
Smart people are accumulating DeepOnion right now. When you see the likes of DASH reaching $800, just imagine how nice it would be to have some DeepOnion at the current price levels.

Dash, as bad as it is, has actual developers working on it.
49  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Tezos discussion on: December 03, 2017, 10:31:14 AM
When will it be transarable? When can we claim our coins?

February is the schedule for the mainnet to go live.
50  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WARNING DeepOnion is a SCAM, proof inside! on: December 03, 2017, 08:06:10 AM
You are not in the postion that "no one" cares, you are not everyone. I stop here, you just want to make DO bad for some reason. I hope you find your project and move on and do not need to focus on this "mission" here anymore. Good luck.

At least I'm not shilling an exit scam.
51  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WARNING DeepOnion is a SCAM, proof inside! on: December 03, 2017, 07:53:08 AM
  • Private messages
  • Tor integration
  • 65tx/sec (bettern than Bitcoin Cash)
  • Deepsent is coming (integrated mixing system) (this is competly overhyped)
  • Smart contracts are planned to add within an layer
  • Awesome community
  • Best marketing strategy and really good advertisment
  • Solid price development
  • Most posts on Bitcointalk ever in the whole history, in this short period of time

If you value this as nothing, well fine move on and look for your project, but dont call it a scam.

The guys from SpectreCoin compared their coin to DeepOnion and others: http://coinwiki.info/en/SpectreCoin#DeepOnion You can start looking for your project there if you dont like DO. I like it a lot, more than any other project I enganged so far.

None of those things matter.

Private messages exist in many coins out there, and nobody cares or uses them.
Tor is in every privacy coin, including all the ones that actually have privacy features, unlike deeponion.
There are a hundred coins that have all the tx/sec that is necessary.
deepsend doesn't exist.
smart contracts don't exist and the concept that your non-devs are going to be able to add them is laughable.
no one cares about your cult
No one cares about your marketing cult
No one cares your "price development", your market is non-existent even on the one exchange you bought your way onto.
And nobody cares about how many bitcointalk posts you have, especially given the fact those posts are a requirement for your signature campaign you call an airdrop.

Nobody cares what spectrecoin says either.

And yes, it is a scam.  Less than 300 people control all the coins.  Mining is almost non-existent because the majority of the coins belong to the developers and their buddies that they let into the airdrop.

52  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WARNING DeepOnion is a SCAM, proof inside! on: December 03, 2017, 07:40:30 AM
Guys, you dont have arguments! It is really boring to read through this crap. Please watch the our Q&A I posted.

Just one FUD example I read: "The DO wallet is not open source and the code is corrupted..." Answer: The older version is open source and everybody can install this version (without the new features). Only the new version witht the new features are copy/paste protected and therefore not open source at the moment. Nobody needs to install the new version. After the project is esablished it will likely be made open source.

Every coin was called a scam somewhen. Some people say Bitcoin is a scam, or whole crypto is a scam, and even some say money is a scam, get over it. People who wants real discussion, please have serious arguements and not just this 0815 FUD shit. We are bored from this and you have zero effect and you will have zero effect with these attempts. If somebody was a previous onion holder, of course he/she wants to be sure he made a wise decision meaning price will decline and therefore tries to push for this, but come on, move on, search your project and invest your money you received. But do not repeat the shit over and over again. It is really just boring.

DeepOnion is a coin you can adapt or not. It is a free market, you can choose.

Your code is either open source or it's not.

Your code is not open source.  You expect people to run a closed source windows only wallet.

That's lunacy.  Anyone doing it is an idiot. 

"copy/paste protected", then get the fuck out, you're not talking about open source anymore -- and you're probably in violation of the license of the coin you copied from as well.

Can you read? Use the old version which is 100% open source? OMG what kind of people are hanging around here. Please read my lines before you post more BS.

"use the old version" is not the answer.

You have released software in the crypto space that is not open source.

That is dumb.

As said: You are free to look for another project.

Every coin devs can deside on there own when they release what kind of code when. It will be released, but not at once.

I understand if you say it is risky to install closed-source code, but nobody has to do this. You can use the version without the new features and receive and send ONIONs without any problem. Basic functionality fully given.

again, "use the old software" isn't the answer.

Don't release closed source windows only software is the answer here.  You have a small cult following that runs your code I guess, but the vast majority of us want nothing to do with it.  Can you not see how that's going to be a huge problem if you really think this is something with a future (it's not, but that's beside the point).
53  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WARNING DeepOnion is a SCAM, proof inside! on: December 03, 2017, 07:35:12 AM
Yeah more false pretences without any proof. Please base your argeument on something. You just state something without anything. Where is your proof?
What did you not understand? Proof is that there is no source code available. It's actually chicken & egg. If there would be source code it would also prove that there is no actual development. So either way...pick one of your liking  Wink

Source code is available: https://github.com/deeponion/deeponion
No development? There is plenty of devleopment, technically, marketing directed, community building, deeponion.shop, videos, votecentral, deepvault webinterface, etc.

Man, didn't you just wrote yourself that is old code, not the current one? You should be more careful how you put together your argument Smiley...

Anyway, it is good to keep this discussion on top of the forum, so more people can see and read it.

I gave up with you people. Again: Old version = open source, new developed implementations = not open source yet (=protected from copy/paste).

You can just install the old version on your machine which is 100% open source, so where is the problem?

You said: "And I already wrote that, it's an active community, nice graphics, but no actual code development. DeepSend is "officially" said to be only available after the airdrops have finished. So guess what, there will be no DeepSend, but the premined coins will be dumped and the anonymous "developers" will have been disappeared with all your money"

1. DeepSent was lowered in priority. They focus now on the webintegratoin + vote central (=governane mechanism of the coin). So only that DeepSent is delayed, does not mean there is no development.
2. There was not a single coin sold from the premine wallets, you can check this on the blockchain. You just have wild speculations. The coin devleopts in a brillant way, and it would be least profitable to do what you stated, even if your assumption are right (what they are not).

The coin doesn't do anything that isn't done better by a ton of other coins.  Adding "governance" (which really just means bag-holder voting capability, with the bag-holders you created through your "airdrop") is stupid.  And that presumes that any code is actually being developed -- which no one believes. 
54  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WARNING DeepOnion is a SCAM, proof inside! on: December 03, 2017, 07:33:30 AM

The only shit comes from you. You cannot even have a conversation.

The discussion was closed after the first post.
MLM marketing system with closed source and copy paste code.

What do you need to discuss?

Roll Eyes

I think I write this now in the 5th post in a row, I even pasted the Github link. The code is open source.

They are developing new features and if you would watch the Q&A you would konw this. But you are too much focused on your "mission" here.

Also: Community Building and Marketing is part of "development". you can have the best features, if nobody knows it is worthless.

The code is absolutely *NOT* open source.  Your own forum says it is not open source.  How ignorant are you?
55  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WARNING DeepOnion is a SCAM, proof inside! on: December 03, 2017, 07:32:40 AM
Yeah more false pretences without any proof. Please base your argeument on something. You just state something without anything. Where is your proof?
What did you not understand? Proof is that there is no source code available. It's actually chicken & egg. If there would be source code it would also prove that there is no actual development. So either way...pick one of your liking  Wink

Source code is available: https://github.com/deeponion/deeponion
No development? There is plenty of devleopment, technically, marketing directed, community building, deeponion.shop, videos, votecentral, deepvault webinterface, etc.

That's not the current source.

56  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WARNING DeepOnion is a SCAM, proof inside! on: December 03, 2017, 07:31:50 AM
Guys, you dont have arguments! It is really boring to read through this crap. Please watch the our Q&A I posted.

Just one FUD example I read: "The DO wallet is not open source and the code is corrupted..." Answer: The older version is open source and everybody can install this version (without the new features). Only the new version witht the new features are copy/paste protected and therefore not open source at the moment. Nobody needs to install the new version. After the project is esablished it will likely be made open source.

Every coin was called a scam somewhen. Some people say Bitcoin is a scam, or whole crypto is a scam, and even some say money is a scam, get over it. People who wants real discussion, please have serious arguements and not just this 0815 FUD shit. We are bored from this and you have zero effect and you will have zero effect with these attempts. If somebody was a previous onion holder, of course he/she wants to be sure he made a wise decision meaning price will decline and therefore tries to push for this, but come on, move on, search your project and invest your money you received. But do not repeat the shit over and over again. It is really just boring.

DeepOnion is a coin you can adapt or not. It is a free market, you can choose.

Your code is either open source or it's not.

Your code is not open source.  You expect people to run a closed source windows only wallet.

That's lunacy.  Anyone doing it is an idiot. 

"copy/paste protected", then get the fuck out, you're not talking about open source anymore -- and you're probably in violation of the license of the coin you copied from as well.

Can you read? Use the old version which is 100% open source? OMG what kind of people are hanging around here. Please read my lines before you post more BS.

"use the old version" is not the answer.

You have released software in the crypto space that is not open source.

That is dumb.
57  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WARNING DeepOnion is a SCAM, proof inside! on: December 03, 2017, 06:43:20 AM
Guys, you dont have arguments! It is really boring to read through this crap. Please watch the our Q&A I posted.

Just one FUD example I read: "The DO wallet is not open source and the code is corrupted..." Answer: The older version is open source and everybody can install this version (without the new features). Only the new version witht the new features are copy/paste protected and therefore not open source at the moment. Nobody needs to install the new version. After the project is esablished it will likely be made open source.

Every coin was called a scam somewhen. Some people say Bitcoin is a scam, or whole crypto is a scam, and even some say money is a scam, get over it. People who wants real discussion, please have serious arguements and not just this 0815 FUD shit. We are bored from this and you have zero effect and you will have zero effect with these attempts. If somebody was a previous onion holder, of course he/she wants to be sure he made a wise decision meaning price will decline and therefore tries to push for this, but come on, move on, search your project and invest your money you received. But do not repeat the shit over and over again. It is really just boring.

DeepOnion is a coin you can adapt or not. It is a free market, you can choose.

Your code is either open source or it's not.

Your code is not open source.  You expect people to run a closed source windows only wallet.

That's lunacy.  Anyone doing it is an idiot. 

"copy/paste protected", then get the fuck out, you're not talking about open source anymore -- and you're probably in violation of the license of the coin you copied from as well.
58  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WARNING DeepOnion is a SCAM, proof inside! on: December 02, 2017, 11:41:54 PM
I think you're completely wrong. You're looking at the wrong "proves" man. It's just free airdrops and you are shouting that it is a scam while all they do is making a nice and wealthy community. It's a great project and i think you should go and read about it my friend.

It's not really just "free airdrops".  It's a massive marketing campaign for a shitty clone coin with no development whatsoever. 

It's not a great project, it's a piece of shit.
59  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WARNING DeepOnion is a SCAM, proof inside! on: December 02, 2017, 11:39:42 PM
There are probaly just 20 3rd world ppl owning 1000 deep-shit-coin sock puppet accounts.

Given the quality of discourse on their forum, that's what I suspect is going on.
60  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: DeepOnion is free or a Scam? You judge on: December 01, 2017, 05:44:36 PM
I am no longer participating in the airdrop but I think it is a good project, the way it is being distributed, especially after the changes in the rules, will form some whales, but which currency has no whales?

There are less than 500 people who have all the coins. 

That's silly if you want to pretend it's a decentralized currency.  It's simply not.
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