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41  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: December 26, 2020, 03:46:29 PM
But they're not going to shut me up! I have dash coins just like they have! maybe I don't have 1000 but I have enough (over 600) to be mad at what's happening. So I will say what I want to say and they can't do anything about it!  at over 25k btc price Dash should be at least 200-250 usd.  all other good coins are 2x,3x the price...... dash when?

I suppose that at any time ... although I will return what is essential to regain positions and go Free ride. Anything else is reckless and overconfident.

The issue is whether RTaylor & friends will empty it again and knock it down or will they let it go at once (although it does not represent a guarantee of anything in the medium and long term and it will only be a new stage until the next embezzlement). Anyway ... they install it in a range, stealing all the capital that comes in ... and then they leave tweeting: Hey! ... We are the most stable currency in the ranking !!!

It's pathetic. The worst thing is that in the current situation, DASH can never be considered as a decentralized and long-term crypto investment project. Any position is smoke in the air ... at the expense of whatever scam they come up with. They can be authorized by ALL.


For my part ... I continue as usual calling for a dev to fix that problem with a fork. It can be perfectly minimized (and still linked to the central project ... but evolving in parallel with a worthy approach)
42  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: December 26, 2020, 02:34:46 PM
yeah, not one of these mnodes motherfuckers have the guts anymore to write here their bullshit?  of course not, more and more people are aware of their bullshit now. or maybe they all got Covid 19....divine justice!

The majority of the bullshit in this forum these days is coming from you and Purple Lardo lay off the crack and try posting something useful instead of your bitter remarks on how you resent those that made better investment decisions than you.

Good good good !  Grin Grin Grin ... you no longer come with your fantastic arguments, because lies no longer work and they fall too easy ... do you think that just by insulting you are going to deceive some new fool?   Wink Well, you are wrong: Your corrupt modus operandi is exposed and, well, everything is clearer for those who need to decide about his capital. It's the least that can be done, right?

By the way ... which "better investment decisions" do you mean? Do you know the investments of the person you quote? ... because you tried to shut me up with that same troll gossip, as if you knew me ... and you had to stick your tongue in your ass, because I already made it clear to you - actually, it's easy, because now, your tricks are too obvious and shameless -: 2/3 of my position in DASH to Cardano and LINK at the beginning of the year ... and I get almost 500% from them today. By the way ... today I get back that position, with DASH still below its price then. The penalty is your shenanigans ... and that being a centralized and corrupt project cannot trust even the slightest bit and increase positions.

Because initial approach - that you have corrupted - was my favorite project ... you know? Now it's shit worth no more than the size of your next whim. NOBODY can ensure value in DASH, because all the wealth dumped will be at the expense of the next scam of those who hijack the project. (and I remember the "modest" Mnodes who believed that the marginalized were others and those who decided were themselves ... that 80% of the vote in DASH is not yet expressed, and that the whales of DASH have only just started voting ... and that their power of absolute abuse only becomes evident when the greedy Mnodes who have corrupted this system with their marginalization measures do not act as the REAL OWNERS of DASH they want ... but the "hundreds of votes with a click" have already begun to appear on DASH ... and that's just the beginning of the "joke").

The DASH code is no longer law: when any law can be voted for 200 corrupt and flipped in ANY sense, any existing law is just a perfectly dispensable anecdote, since only decentralization guarantees the rules of the game. This should be clear to anyone ... both those inside and those considering entering. Look how simple: In three months, DCG votes a proposal to require 10,000 tokens to configure a Mnode and collect rewards ... and the "modest" Mnodes are left as naked as the microholders or miners ... or they vote for a stable coin running on the DASH system so that those who have tokens see them fall to hell if they don't sell ... with a CENTRALIZED project, the traps can be THOUSANDS, anything can be voted on, ANYONE ... and 100 people who own Mnodes with two or four devices each one they are absolutely vulnerable and ridiculous to the groups that centralize possessions in DASH ... they can only stare and attend the show run by others. It turns out that those stupid arrogants who said a couple of years ago: "Do you want rewards or an opinion in DASH? ... Buy five mNodes!" ...now they can hear the same approach ... but with two hundred Mnodes. It sure looks like a lot of fun to them now!

Now, with those perspectives ... go find the "rich" you need ... so that you can steal their wealth given to DASH with your eyes closed , go, scammer, go...  Wink

By the way ... more and more members, including Mnodes at this point in the movie , are suffering your traps and crap and see how they de facto marginalize them from any real management or decision right ... I leave you a link to a post from DeepBlue, Mnode especially active, totally flawless in its forms, and integrated into the group dynamics for years ... it is only a few days ago, of this last week ... and its arguments will be "known" to you and anyone who visits this thread ... you will surely love them   Wink  :

>>>>>

DeepBlue  3 points,6 days ago

" @geert the wisdom of crowds is exactly what I'm advocating. However there is no wisdom of crowds if DCG vote with their several hundred masternodes votes right at the beginning of their proposals because of fake social proof. We had 400+ votes that all appeared in one go right at the beginning of this proposal. That is the very opposite of wisdom of crowds when a very small group of people voting with large numbers of Masternodes. This is manipulation of the votes through using Social Proof principal that I spoke about.

Your own argument therefore nullifies itself. The wisdom of crowds only occurs when the actual crowd is not influenced by the FAKE social proof that DCG is creating by using their own MN votes on their own proposals.

I can't help but think where did the money come from for those hundreds of DCG masternodes? The more money DCG make the more individual MNOs will lose decentralized control of the treasury because the more masternodes the more voting power they will have. Bearing in mind that under most circumstances we only have about 600 to 800 MNO votes on a project and 400+ votes seem to be coming from a very small group of people who all vote at the same time for DCG projects.



Dash is systematically becoming centralised step by step. We have to stop this. These are the reasons why Dash is becoming centralized:

1. DCG vote for their own proposals with a large number of masternodes.

2. Ryan often will not answer questions about spending in the DCG proposals e.g. the DCG office space which has been shown to be completely empty on every time a trusted member of DASH has undertake spot checks on their office. Not once was any of DCG staff in that office at ASU complex. 55k for office space that is mostly empty. Ryan has not responded to my requests for feedback on this. Doesn't exactly garner trust Ryan when you remain silent. Doesn't look good at all on you Ryan and honestly it reduces my trust and confidence in Ryan Taylor by the lack of response.

3. Ryan Taylor has said several times he wants MNOs to "trust" e.g. he stated that we should trust the DIF and put forward his suggestions to the network that the MNOs do not need to approve their funding through a vote. We must be able to vote on funding from the DIF and we need to see the full financial investment agreement to do that. The DIF, which now also includes Ryan Taylor, does not want to agree to full transparency on the NDA. My view is if an organization wants an NDA on the financial agreement they are not right for being funded by a decentralized organization because we need to have transparency in the agreements and we need to see the full terms of those agreements.

4. The Dash Trust Protectors meetings are kept private. We don't know what goes on in those meetings. Why not?

5. DCG put Dash code into closed source for over a year and during that time did not answer my requests for information in their funding proposals which I repeatedly asked. We all now know why that was now. It was not to give Dash first mover advantage - it was because the code was not developed as it was supposed to be.

5. Ryan Taylor comes from a background of traditional finance. I'm sorry, but I inherently have a healthy level of skepticism from anyone coming from the traditional financial system and entering the Dash project. Ryan reached out to Evan Duffield and not the other way around.

6. I have spoken with DashWatch members in depth about circumstances regarding Alt36 and DCG claims on that project. I am not going to reveal all the details that I learned here because I don't think it is appropriate however I was disturbed by what I learned from speaking with DashWatch.

7. DCG do not want DashWatch reports on their project. I've spoken with DashWatch about this personally. There are excuses like it would take too much time or money or we have to trust them on their quarterly reports. Every other Dash project is subject to a DW report as an independent audit but DCG will not agree to do it.

8. Ryan is now also working on the DIF as well as on DCG CEO. I would not mind this so much provided we have full transparency on the actual financial agreement for funding - however we don't have this. My view is funding from a decentralized organization needs to be 100% transparent when it comes to the terms of the agreement. NDA's can be used for IP knowledge but not on the financial investment agreement.

9. If DCG are to continue to vote on their own proposal we should at least know how many MNs are they voting with exactly so that we can make a more informed decision how fake social proof is acting on these proposals.

Stage by stage, bit by bit we are losing decentralized control to DCG through Ryan Taylor's leadership. If this continues and the number of Masternodes that DCG holds increases we will lose decentralized control of the Dash Project. This is also likely to happen if this proposal passes because DCG will have access to even greater amounts of funds.

How would I feel OK with the budget increasing to 20? The following would have to happen as a minimum:

a) DCG agree to have quarterly DashWatch reports on their project.
b) We have procedures in place for MNOs to have the information they need in order to make quality decisions on projects. I have suggested a few ways this can be done on the Dash Forum.
c) The DIF have fully transparent investment agreements to the network. No NDAs obscuring financial agreements with the network. NDAs can be used on protecting knowledge on IP only but not on the financial agreement itself.

d) Spending by DCG is in question as far as I am concerned until the DCG is systematically independently audited both financially and on their project by DashWatch. In the past DCG wanted to spend 1 million dollars on google Ads. This shows that as the budget increase the spends increase and often without proper thought about how those funds are to be spent. 1 million dollars on google ads was absolutely crazy. Luckily circumstances changed so they could not spend this.

The $200,000 - $250,000 dollars per month going to DCG is more than enough. They have to learn to use this money more wisely. This is more than most other crypto projects are getting and even with this we still have not delivered Evolution on time.

I feel MNOs need to fight to ensure that the Dash project remains decentralized and that we do not have to rely on trust at all ".

43  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: December 26, 2020, 02:06:41 PM
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44  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: December 24, 2020, 11:58:45 AM
BTC has played its timings brilliantly... Some alts, with some relative success ...DASH, after already an irregular start - and ethically questionable for a lot of public opinion -, with breaches, waste , parasitism and lies towards its investors ... and with an image of a real scam in the eyes of the entire sector. A similar scenario now would be the same as expecting ETC to overtake ETH ... and replace Bitcoin as the leader of the crypto industry.  Roll Eyes  Which objectively seems unlikely, right?

What exactly are you trying to say? That alts, after capitulating against BTC, are unlikely to recover at all? That the likelihood that they do (has happened before) is about the same chance that ETC has of overtaking ETH and BTC (which has never even come close to happening)?

Objectively, I think you're wrong. There's more than a 0% chance that alt season will come when it does and when it does, alts will outperform BTC.

In case you haven't noticed, most alt coins took a severe beating over the last 2 days... not just Dash...

Should we all just quit alts and buy BTC as quickly as we can?

I say that :

1- the crypto sector does not have debts with DASH based on the past -as it does not have with ETC-. To expect that is to expect weather effects after the rain dance.
2- that the behavior of the crypto sector has monetary conditions that are ignored, even in its most basic aspects. And that is absolutely ridiculous in a system whose de facto standard exerts a gigantic and absolute influence on the rest. Accepting a "group" behavior of altcoins with respect to BTC is only possible from the failure of each of these projects ... from a technological perspective that is neither decisive nor categorical ... and from the contempt of what they are in essence cryptocurrencies: CURRENCIES.
 Any "currency" that wants to dominate its course in crypto needs a specific monetary approach to BTC.

Someone posted weeks ago that it might be wise for an economist to join DASH. Not only is it recommended, but it is ridiculous and an integral nonsense that has not been available for years and is handled from another perspective than that. In fact, only from that point of view are cheap project control tricks like Rtaylor's pathetic "Tokenomícs" and such idiocy hijacking the entire narrative of an allegedly monetary collective for a year are understandable. (Although he and his corrupt elite, an elite within the elite of the Mnodes, will surely find it very comfortable and satisfying.)

Admitting a flow economic dynamics in the sector "between BTC and the alts " like a closed cyclical behavior is like admitting that the lottery raffle can be the basis of a country's economic balance.

Let's get a dev capable of forking DASH - obviously who is not comfortably enjoying the corrupt centralization of the project - ... and in 2 weeks we'll show you the power of decentralized money ...even INSIDE DASH estructure (which would be very positive for DASH ... although possibly, not for his corrupt elite, who DASH don't give a shit).
45  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: December 24, 2020, 03:27:20 AM
End of year product update by Head of Product at Dash Core Group, Dana Alibrandi.

It's been a tremendous year for Dash development!

Thank you Dash community and masternodes for your continued support.

Happy Holidays and Merry Christmas!



https://twitter.com/Dashpay/status/1341860880171069445


Deliberately misleading information aimed at making the public believe that whoever buys less than 1000 DASH will be part of some "community". And do not tell me that the "community" are the cleaning ladies of the  - empty - offices of DASH. DASH has only one community: A couple of hundred people who own the total of 5,000 Mnodes that control the project.

Well...better with a disclaimer, right ? :

"Buyers of less than 1000 DASH are USERS or CLIENTS who enrich the 200 beneficiaries of this Ponzi. Nothing more than that. Possession of DASH tokens does not reward their holders proportionally in the way that it does in most projects crypto. The bonus system, as well as the decision system, is private to that minority. Those decisions even imply the debasement of the DASH currency by whatever measure the elite deems appropriate for their own interests.

- The decentralization of the project is canceled (depending on the convenience of the parasitic minority).
- Your financial freedom is annulled (the price of the currency in which you save and therefore, your wealth is subject to the interest of that elite)
- Your freedom of opinion / expression is annulled (based on the same interests, DASH reserves the right to even subsidize corrupt moderators with the "Common Treasury" funds - which can only be managed by the elite - that prevent their right to express their opinions on DASH channels and even CMs that persecute, insult, trolle or try to inhibit those who expose opinions that explain the internal workings of DASH in general media, even if they are true)"


(Ridiculous and shameless as it sounds, it's literally true).

Later, they will be "surprised" that whoever gives up their capital under these conditions intentionally concealed ...feels cheated once already trapped in the system in which they understand its absolute irrelevance position...and "surprised" too because the image of DASH is a fucking shit in the sector.

Year 2021 ... and they continue with the scam. And they're so, so, so clever ... that even with these shenanigans, they lose money.
46  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: December 24, 2020, 01:46:51 AM

If you say so.

My recollection was that bitcoin was getting a baptism of fire at that time due to forking for the first time ever and there was massive hedging into alts.

Not only that. The fork of BTC Cash was an assault on the crypto order established up to that date.

It was a spin-off headed by a reference member, Roger Ver ... and a massive mining threat thanks to Jihan Wu in favor of the new option, which pigeonholed BTC as useless for its "authentic" objectives - p2p -, which united to a massive influx of crypto investors, it caused altcoins to be considered IN GENERAL AND FOR THE FIRST TIME, as totally valid alternatives to BTC, beyond being a "lesser evil", copy or imitation. Today, the context is the opposite to the BTC standard accepted by global mainstream economic referents ... and in DASH, especially opposite, due to its ruinous situation, after endless waste, defaults and deception ... sunk in the ranking ...

In reality, BTC was redefining itself and laying its foundations as a Store of Value (and crypto standard, de facto). Since DASH, there have been years of trolling and disqualifying BTC, when the perspective of the "thinking heads" of DASH (associating leadership with those visible faces and their enormous and evident mediocrity is simply delusional) was extremely ignorant and stupid, ignoring even the FRONTAL maximalist claim of BTC in that their project transcended that of a simple means of payment. A perspective of DASH, also always malicious and fallacious, as can be seen even in statements such as today's official in the umpteenth new pamphlet of the Platform admitting its full awareness that they had NOTHING operational and had to start from scratch. The official message in those same moments and context - was to claim (above BTC - not to mention the enormous contempt and condescension towards ALL the rest of the projects -) a deserved "crypto-crown" ... for the alleged quality of a work never delivered: "Mainnet in June'18", "the sky is the limit", "investment capacity will exceed that of Silicon Valley as a whole" and antics of that shameful level to simply finance themselves through deception until they sink into the current absolute precariousness. And that's been the obscene - and imo, with obvious criminal responsibilities - DAO-funded editorial line since 2017.





Well, emotions always try to disguise themselves behind "reasons"... this time around the emotions seem the same, I'm sure a new excuse will be used as to why a similar outcome occurs.


Well ... those who are sure that the excuses will not end is the corrupt gang who manipulate this project. Let's hope that the rest of us can maintain a cold criterion so as not to fall into what you comment - ... and, by the way, that some good conclusions generate beneficial consequences and do not remain only in endless words -. Anyway, that they are like this does not make us all the same.

Other than that,, there is no longer a similar result, because the scenario is not. While the talkative idiots despised arrogantly the VOLUNTARY BTC shortcomings and presented themselves as better alternatives, BTC, right under their noses, has consolidated its own monetary standard.. Without a tremendously powerful and effective monetary approach to this, TA and psychology are secondary in the evolution of the crypto sector. The opportunity cost is something very specific and things do not reappear in the same circumstances when one wants.

BTC has played its timings brilliantly... Some alts, with some relative success ...DASH, after already an irregular start - and ethically questionable for a lot of public opinion -, with breaches, waste , parasitism and lies towards its investors ... and with an image of a real scam in the eyes of the entire sector. A similar scenario now would be the same as expecting ETC to overtake ETH ... and replace Bitcoin as the leader of the crypto industry.  Roll Eyes  Which objectively seems unlikely, right?
47  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: December 23, 2020, 02:31:35 PM
Useless scammers prove my words every day. Bastards, when the dash is already starting to be removed from the stock exchanges!

Everything can be perfectly arranged with a suitable fork.

With a technically gifted developer, everything can change from night to day. What makes you want to vomit is that not a single one offers to do it (obviously, those inside , all the members of this orchestrated scam, insider information holders , have enormous incentives not to do it and continue to appropriate the entire project at a laughable price, while they ruin whoever approaches and expropriate their capital -  scammers act out their theater and simply let it all run its course, which progresses to their private benefit -  ).

I repeat my appeal to a dev passionate about REAL DASH, not this rotten trap ... and capable of forking it.
48  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: December 23, 2020, 11:43:34 AM
The Journey to DashPay is now published on the Dash blog 

https://blog.dash.org/the-journey-to-dashpay-3e604d17814c



"Up until early 2019 the plan was to use the Core chain for DashPay, however, this approach did not provide all necessary features and basically just did not work. Our choices at that point were to build something from scratch or take an existing open source project that best fit our requirements and modify it."

In the fourth year of "alleged" development work, two years after announcing evolution at a planetary event in London with media abuse ... they knew full well they had little more than shit stuck on a stick. However, their commercial communications in the meantime continued to expose scenarios of great prospects.

All this band of insiders, any element within the DASH organization chart, those who when some Mnodes they go to visit offices rented for $ 55,000 are not there, enter the SIXTH YEAR next week of knowledge of a precariousness that would breach any announced delivery, all of them destined to be displeased with the market and of course, to send the price directly to shit. Encouraging the public , meanwhile, to buy + keep their token-garbage (and this includes their network of complicit Mnodes, always ready to expand that reprehensible attitude, even at the risk of sinking the price of their assets and corrupting the ecosystem by extracting resources for other ways, such as the abuse in the proportions of the distributions - to get even minimal alms of their disastrous investment -. The truth is that the meekness of the "modest Mnodes" aligning themselves with this wealth-destroying charade is worthy of study on a global level. ... what a band!  Roll Eyes ).

The knowledge of the situation, the deception of potential buyers and the scam are simply colossal.

Right now ... well, photographs of bucolic sunsets, "great achievements" potential and "imminent", possibly masking the errors they have by launching a testnet whose partiality no one can verify from the outside ... and continue sucking, dumping on the peaks and loading at a discounted price.
49  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: December 22, 2020, 01:38:35 AM
By the way, And beyond the gossipy personal concerns of our CM troll, ...Following RobinHood's conviction, another SEC investigation into XRP in protecting investor rights.  Roll Eyes


https://www.wsj.com/articles/ripple-to-face-sec-suit-over-xrp-cryptocurrency-11608598800?reflink=desktopwebshare_twitter
50  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: December 22, 2020, 01:19:02 AM
Time for some introspection.



LOL !   Grin Grin Grin Grin  Roll Eyes

You have not crossed a single post with me ... and you want me to waste a second with your cheap adhominems? You have 20 years of school to go before you trolled me, bro . I am here to analyze the widespread corruption in disability that you have submerged one of the best crypto projects: DASH.

Well, look: I think you and your friends will have to keep reading truths. You fuck around and dance  Wink . And to continue reading, of course.

The rest of the people will judge my reasoning and will give them the importance they deem appropriate. They will freely believe that I have reasons ... or that I am a charlatan. Any problem? If yours is the exposition of the crap you do to those who trust you, it is a cheap price ... and also, your business. Again ... you fuck and dance.  Wink

and by the way, I am an especially positive and good-humored person. VERY especially.
But apart this : REPEATED abuses and " too smart people" who think that the rest of us are in the world to swallow their shit and abuse, I face them with the cordiality they deserve, which , coincidentally, is not bigger of their disrespectful and behavioral shit , what do you think , troll ? ... but look, to bring joy to that gloomy tone of your post, I leave you a smile. Smiley

OK. And now ... go and quote Mason's last twit, which is more tacky and vulgar than the previous one (but less than the following, sure) and only has two responses (ah, sorry ... one is yours, you intoxicating shitty CM!  https://twitter.com/StayDashy/status/1341152266473136128   - by the way .. . It says that "your dear community" , whom you have ruined and marginalized, call their friends and family to know DASH !!!  Shocked Shocked Shocked  Grin Grin Grin  LOL  Grin Grin Grin ...For what ? ... so you can cheat all the dollars from home ? -)

Anyway ... you have a special talent for nonsense, no doubt about that. But a little thing: If you had had a minimum of dignity and respect instead of scamming and marginalizing, possibly you would not have to be now recording thousands of multinicks and creating ridiculous gifs to not do even 0.1% of what I would spontaneously a HEALTHY community ... which is what you 200 sneaky and arrogant scammers have aborted in DASH. So now you know: "Time for some introspection".

A greeting, sweet heart, i love you too... but of course: Assume it as usual ...and prepare "your ears". If you think what you read is wrong and you have reasons in another sense ... you put them ... and if not, you get screwed! : So, people read and judge ... isn't it wonderful how simple it is? ...This is not DASH Trollk Discord nor do you have the censorship button on your finger.  Wink


51  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: December 21, 2020, 11:07:41 PM
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52  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: December 21, 2020, 11:06:41 PM


It's really going to depend on the community getting becoming active and making noise.


LOL  Cheesy

Even if you upload dozens of big shitty graphics , even repeated, as you've been flooding all DASH channels for days, "the community" won't exist. They left because you cheated and stole them. Now you , the 200 scammers that you have appropriated the project, and your tricks are left ... waiting for the next naive and their money.

You upload a toast with champagne and bulls for  10$ pumps and colored graphics to prevent people from expressing themselves ... that in between you will see the reality: The freedom of expression that you do not consent to in the DASH toxics channels what do you manipulate and with it, people tired of your thefts... because it is absolutely logical.

Just as anyone who reads will see it.And it is good that they know about this scam . You've already ruined too many people.
53  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: December 21, 2020, 08:31:42 PM
BTC has sneezed and Dash has caught a cold.

At the moment the reality is what we see, we go up less than BTC for months, and when BTC goes down we go down more.

What panorama awaits the holders?

Nothing new at the moment. The monthly candle that the @quizzie partner expected green, it may not be ... but there are still 10 days until the miracle, and maybe things will change as fast as the weather in spring.


Realistically, if BTC falls to support in the $ 18,000 zone, we are likely to return to $ 70.

It's hard to watch, but I think the holders have accepted it as good.

I hope that the new Dash Platform is a new horizon of uses, beyond a fast and cheap page method ... something we already have, but it seems not enough in a universe where that, almost any currency does. .

Greetings to all, and cheers.

It really does not matter that DASH technology improves, the only undeniable fact in crypto is that BTC has established itself as a standard and that exponentially increases a wealth extraction capacity that was already notorious and even DNA of the sector.

Better tech qualities of DASH will not eliminate that threat: As long as it is an open trading currency, it will be a wide  door to be drained by BTC or any other hot money that attacks it (the speculative fiat from the delusional emissions of the Global CB that wander around the economy looking for destiny is already entering a huge volume also because BTC is already a new mainstream reference perfectly accepted in certain circles ).

A balanced and progressive growth of DASH - in short, a long-term financial self-sufficiency - is not a technological question, but a strategic and monetary one. But no problem : i'm sure that Manson & Valenzuela "educate" us on this any day.

...Sorry, year ... maybe around 2030...




...or 40...  Roll Eyes
54  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: December 21, 2020, 04:24:27 PM


It's not malicious though, it's a knowledge/understanding issue.



Mason ? I do not think so.

How can you say that about a universal "educator" of DASH and alma mater of global crypto pedagogy ?  Grin
55  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: December 21, 2020, 03:51:48 PM
And ... LOL  Grin Grin Grin ... do not use the cheap , childish and ridiculous resource of asking if coinmarkecap promotes the scam and avoid YOUR responsibility ... the scammers are you and your use of this project. DASH was not created as a Ponzi: That was done by those who took it afterwards.  Without decentralizing it and sending you to fucking hell, it's worth NOTHING.


dash will never recover and he knows it, dash is almost like a stable coin right now, from $90 to $110 again and again until the end of time lol Smiley) dash will never go up 200 even if btc will be 30k or 40k dash will still be at 110 lol. and that's a ponzi scheme for sure!  they don't want dash to go up, they don't! they like dash here at 100, you better rename it to dash usd or something you scammers!

I do not agree. Give me a programmer to fork and I'll show you easy! (Unfortunately, many of the current ones are possibly taking advantage of this "PERPETUAL DRAIN LOOP"/PONZI)  Wink
  That is why it cannot be changed from within: The legion of parasites comfortably installed is huge.

By the way, and I will not tire of repeating it: Gentlemen programmers! With a proper fork, we send these corrupts straight to the shit and get DASH back for their REAL community (and not only fix the new chain, but force them to fix this, the original).
56  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: December 21, 2020, 03:35:54 PM




Does this mean coinmarketcap is scamming anyone with how they use the ROI term in cryptospace ? Of course not.

ROI usage i found so far :

* Calculate the price performance of cryptocurrencies over a certain time period or earliest known price (crypto defintion)
* Calculate the return on masternodes collateral / shared masternodes collateral / staking projects / DeFi projects (crypto definition)
* Calculate the return of gain from investment divided by cost of investment in FIAT (traditional definition)

I am pretty sure investors understand there is more then one definition of ROI circulating in cryptospace. Only you seems to be surprised by it and are now (after all this time) trying to make a big deal about it.
That is what i call being late to the party, particularly with you being a masternode operator for all these years. Surely you have come across the different ROI definitions before ?  

I had not seen the new misleading graphic that you are trying to promote ... so I also answer you (it's easy, because all your garbage has a trick):

That 9000% DOES NOT SERVE as a reference for new investors, since it was reached long before ATH 2017 ... and it is the enormous margin that early adopters take advantage of to support the hodl of thousands of coins PURCHASED FROM THAT ATL of 0.2 $. In those terms, of up to a x500 times profit assured today, you can allow yourself to drag the price for the shit and loot all the wealth of DASH as soon as it rises a few dollars, to sink it again and repeat the process. That way you prevent it from growing and steal all the money from those who arrive because you have turned DASH into a ponzi.

Because what happens is that the newcomers to whom you pass through the noses wonderful prices of 4 figures will never reach them, precisely because of your periodic and constant withdrawals ... aspect of which they will realize when they are already inside and see how this works shit ... while the rest of the projects grow and they lose the opportunity to get rich in crypto.

And ... LOL  Grin Grin Grin ... do not use the cheap , childish and ridiculous resource of asking if coinmarkecap promotes the scam and avoid YOUR responsibility ... the scammers are you and your corrupt use of this project. DASH was not created as a Ponzi: those of you who came later did that.  

Without decentralizing it and sending you to fucking hell kicking your fucking ass, it's worth NOTHING.
57  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: December 21, 2020, 02:53:18 PM

How can we complain about the "scammer" label ?


Why even worry about that label ? People are abusing that label left and right on this forum when they are upset about something or disagree with someone, even you have been doing that.
Only trolls still use that label on Dash itself, and a whole lot less then in the past, so far i can tell.


You are the real troll and the scammer, that's why you try to disavow those who expose your tricks. You and anyone who hides the traps you have prepared for those who entrust their capital to this project.

Read the proposal of a few posts above of GrandMasterDASH (by the way, a classic member who transmits a thousand times more passion and respect for DASH and crypto ethics than any of your organized gang of corrupt) ... he does face your scam, he knows that you owe to the tens of thousands of scammed that you have deceived, marginalized and robbed and tries to face in some way responsibility that corresponds to him. He also warns you that the great possessors marginalize everyone, even the Mnodes.

But no ... scammers like you, will contribute bullish charts for going up ten fucking dollars, or false ROIs (as Mason himself already used listings of thousands of FALSE merchants - for whose display the DAO paid him - to deceive about the adoption of DASH, because your shenanigans have no limits and everything serves to deceive ) to continue sucking the money that any naive victim of your misinformation contributes and to be releasing your coins ... and so the problem has others. When once inside they realize where they have gotten ... their problem!

Some create deception and others accept it and take advantage of it and instead of optimizing DASH, you neither baceis nor allow it to do so, you only seek to hide everything bad, although others continue to be harmed or worse, precisely for that. The least that can be done is that your deception is not so easy for you and that you do not go through life so calm, screwing people.



p.d. And by the way ... do not refer to the original concentration of tokens / votes / rewards of Duffield - and by extension, surely of DCG - as "irrelevant past" and a problem solved: He himself admitted to having hundreds of Mnodes ... and by true, he said that he was going to "give them to the DAO" ... which, of course, he did not do because with it he can centralize, manipulate and take advantage of the ENTIRE project. At least he saw the problem and tried to solve it with the Shared Mnodes so as not to lose the fundamental spirit of decentralization in the project that he himself founded and loved ... but the corrupt ones who have arrived later have turned a "possible error" into an abusive imbalance, because taking advantage of that trap is enough for them and they don't give a shit about DASH. YOU, not those you call trolls to confuse future victims to loot and continue your scam.

GrandMasterDASH warns you: They will end up fucking you too (although you, those who continue this farce, have deservedly won it)
58  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: December 21, 2020, 12:03:07 PM

More Mnodes with a minimum of rigor that are realizing the manipulation of a system that not only cancels the necessary network effect in crypto but also tends to hyperconcentration and that, they too, are becoming decorative objects ( I disagree with his approach, but his claim is most symptomatic):

https://app.dashnexus.org/proposals/one-dollar-one-vote-governance/overview



"Dear MNOs,



Your input to this proposal, which from now on will be referred to as ODOV, is important. As a concept, it is open to modification before going to a formal proposal. This is an opportunity for you to let DCG know how you feel about the current state of dash governance. I feel this may also be our last chance to properly decentralize and democratize dash governance as it increasingly seems impossible to vote against DCG. What kind of governance is there if DCG has no viable opposition?



The outcome of this proposal is quite bold; to direct DCG to build ODOV. In the unlikely event they refuse, a further proposal would be put forward to remove obstructive parties from the DCG team.



Current Governance Trajectory



I believe one of our biggest stumbling blocks is the perception that dash is elitist. The 1000 dash collateral is out of the reach of most people. In the eyes of an outsider, it is a form of centralization. I do not say it is true at this moment, only perception. However, I have seen the future of dash governance and it looks very much like this:



https://www.coindesk.com/wallets-with-over-1000-bitcoin-have-hit-record-number-chainalysis



This could easily become a world where large corporations like Coinbase and Paypal operate a majority of masternodes. Binance currently uses customer deposits to control 120+ masternodes. If this happens, dash becomes yet another bankers coin.



Incentivized Community Engagement



As noted by Ryan Taylor and others, voter participation is often very low. There are a few things we could do about this, such as voter registration, but it wouldn’t address concerns of centralization.



As it happens, Dash Platform and usernames offers us a solution. My one big assumption is that the financial model for dash usernames will produce a well distributed foundation to build from. If not, then we have bigger problems.



ODOV will allow all end users to upvote or downvote MNOs. By doing so, the voting power of said MNOs will be amplified or reduced accordingly. The exact level of amplification / reduction is yet to be decided but for now I am proposing by a factor of five. If you like, this equates to five star reviews on Amazon.



The criteria for voting would be, a) a valid username, and b) a minimum balance of one US dollar held in the most recent voting cycle.



ODOV seeks to make MNOs publicly accountable to end users. By doing so, an elitist perception will be dampened.



This also opens up a future possibility of MNOs leveraging Dash Platform to hold community votes or proxy votes on specific proposals.



Your feedback is welcomed."
59  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: December 21, 2020, 11:52:50 AM

How can we complain about the "scammer" label when we engage in this kind of abuse of terminology ?

The 6% is a return, but not on your investment.


Exactly, TokNormal. Although some members already show their disagreement from within, the Mnodes network suffers, in general, a resignation due to sheer exhaustion or a Stockholm Syndrome. Seriously destructive in both cases.

This Mason, with Valenzuela, are the individuals who, with DASH at 40 and a few dollars, encouraged, "the community", WITH VAULTORO ADVERTISING CLOTHES  Shocked  Roll Eyes  Huh ... to "take advantage of" the "wealth stabilization resources" that the ecosystem DASH provides its users (obviously, selling their DASH under those dire circumstances and buying Gold ... what is a COMPREHENSIVE wealth drain, and literally like hammering someone in the head who is drowning in the sea ). This type of approach can only be sustained by true economic illiterates unable to differentiate between bacon and speed. And it is absolutely incomprehensible that the organization they supposedly represent stand up to the same level of mental destitution for years.

The point is that the community of Mnodes does not punch the table and has delegated, due to depression, resignation, or an exhaustion of years for a dynamic lacking any common sense, no longer a leadership that these people are incapable of assuming, but "the official image" of DASH, accepting that a project endowed with robust and solid monetary perspectives years ago, that is, with a SERIOUS MONETARY vocation in the middle of the obscene "ICO party" of 2017, becomes a party high school (actually, the most useless high school students). If you are able to put aside the stridencies of my line of opinion, I honestly invite you to watch Valenzuela's interview with Mason from a couple of days ago: With the rigors you have in certain aspects, I assure you that your hair will turn on edge (I was able, with enormous effort, to endure 20 minutes of such a succession of nonsense). The absence of the least rigor or criterion is simply chilling. And perhaps even worse, the conviction of these elements, to be helping, leading the way, illuminating ... when they are precisely authentic time bombs, a couple of "useful fools" necessary to camouflage the nonsense of DCG who have believed that the consequent proximity of such close treatment for their information corruption makes them referents "of something". And they are only like two drunks convinced they can win the Indianapolis 500.

Obviously, the invitations to that crazy line of organization and communication that this subject uses and claims, is accepted, as you can see HERE in the last pages of ridiculous, deliberately confusing and biased promotional posts ... as well as to expand that fallacious expansion line ( kick the can and go forward ) . Personally, I don't even believe I know the general attitude of the Mnodes, rather the noise of shameless elements who don't give a shit that DASH looks like tacky and obscene garbage ... a fifth division product (and I'm not talking about the the product itself, but the shameful image of overflowing amateurism it projects).

DASH still has too many strong arguments to project itself well to the sector and investors who approach it. Although many do not understand it (they simply do not have the least capacity to savor this gem) ... it should be much more than a meme.
60  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: December 20, 2020, 10:53:15 PM
A couple of points on which some opinions coincide and that I personally understand can be qualified.

Regarding the "leakage of resources" that some opinions perceive as negative in Venezuela: Of 5326 tokens of the last monthly budget, only 3 proposals approved for the "waste" of Venezuela, 2 of them promoted by Yoana Castillo, the dynamic woman of Mall and Parking that fights with its entire team every shitty coin before the miserable Mnodes (reading a conversation in DASH Nexus denying this woman bread and salt literally produces human shame ... when she spent half a dozen salary workers kicking the street for around $ 1,500 ... TOTALLY !!! ...as DAO scammers questioned them, scratching their balls from their houses). Anyway ... the total cost of all the proposals amounts to the "catastrophic" figure of 158 DASH.

Yes, 158 tokens of a total of 5326 !!! Honestly, perhaps previous initiatives focused on Venezuela have been excessive or poorly planned ... but today, there is not the least problem, imo.



Another point is the repeated request for improved and increased marketing for DASH ... something that has been repeated since I entered the project four years ago.

I suppose it will be in reference to increasing the promotion ... of lies and deception. Or that promotion will have an honest and transparent informative background ? Because in those terms, the crypto community, which DOES know DASH, does not want a single token of this centralized and extractive structure, they know that they want to put it in DASH, will fly for the "slaughtered" Mnodes. Will the conditions for investors of less than 1000 tokens appear in these promotions? That those tokens will only be worth "to be spent" and that the parasitic ponzi has been charging, even with the price of the coin ruined?

What DASH has to do is have a worthy project, in accordance with its initial approaches prior to being distorted to optimize the private theft of 200 people around the world ... and that benefits those who choose to promote it so that everyone is involved and Also, have a transparent and honest speech that you can be proud of and involve more people, even through word of mouth that occurs spontaneously when you have something positive to share, without the need for extra marketing - which, of course, in general, it's never bad - instead of having a centralized scam whose tracks must be erased with tricks, half-truths and outright lies in every communication they make and which, logically, lead the project directly to hell. Vecause, let's not kid ourselves, many people already know DASH and what they know is that they do not want to touch that garbage with the end of a stick.

The truth is that a jewel like DASH would deserve that approach ... another thing is that a band of mediocre people do not even know how to make money with those enormous qualities and even worse, not even manipulating it to their measure and turning it into shit. That is the problem.
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