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401  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL current state of affairs on: August 15, 2013, 03:49:18 AM
 Cheesy
402  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Google PATCHES critical Android crypto flaw used in $5,700 Bitcoin heist on: August 15, 2013, 02:36:51 AM
Thought I'd share

http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/08/google-confirms-critical-android-crypto-flaw-used-in-5700-bitcoin-heist/
403  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: did ASIC ruin bitcoin ? on: August 15, 2013, 02:18:40 AM
Will this affect deflation? I wonder if USD Fiat price and block reward are inversely correlated? (so long as demand exceeds supply)
404  Economy / Lending / Re: 0.21 BTC LOAN Until auguest 23rd (payback 0.35) on: August 15, 2013, 01:53:50 AM
references/collateral?

edit: I see your trust from UK1. Considering.
405  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL current state of affairs on: August 14, 2013, 11:19:18 PM
Meanwhile, Josh goes to put in a bid for more advertising on these forums.

Don't go spending money until everyone gets a refund, Inaba.

Actually, they need new customers to pay for the refunds.
the cycle of bullshit continues.
406  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL current state of affairs on: August 14, 2013, 11:15:28 PM
..... This will probably happen 2 weeks from now ...
Dude have you not been paying attention? They've been saying a great amount of progress will happen in '2 weeks' for 6 months straight now. I just don't get how people can trust this company, they've done nothing to earn it.  I would put the likelihood of that latest '2 weeks' statement of actually happening at about 2% - 3%.

 Look. I really don't see what the problem is here. Just wait another two weeks. Come on. Be reasonable.

 They will most assuredly deliver.
Meanwhile, Josh goes to put in a bid for more advertising on these forums.

Don't go spending money until everyone gets a refund, Inaba.
407  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL current state of affairs on: August 14, 2013, 09:17:53 PM
I found a photo of the current state of affairs.

Seems they were mining with preordered rigs after all. rig fire =O

408  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL current state of affairs on: August 14, 2013, 08:29:52 PM
Who's deploying then?  The network hashrate seems to be going up in lockstep with the amount of hashrate we are shipping out, give or take a slight deviation.


It's like High School, show your work (math) or you get no credit.



Much like I told Flying Hellfish, once you become an adult, you will realize that reality (and the rest of the world) does not care about you.  Reality is what it is, you can accept it or deny it, but it will still be reality.  Nothing needs to be proven, no work needs to be shown.  You either accept reality or you deny it, the choice is up to you.  Reality doesn't care about you and what you believe, and just like I told Mr. Hellfish, neither do I. 
I cant wait for reality to hit the company soon to be formerly known as BFL. Get the popcorn  Grin
409  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: did ASIC ruin bitcoin ? on: August 14, 2013, 08:19:28 PM
a plus is that confirmations will be in seconds now with miners running on asics
the whole point of the difficulty adjustments is to ensure that new blocks (confirmations) are generated at a rate of one every 10 minutes, no more, no less, regardless of total network hash rate.

Was there not a point when the hashrate actually caused the block rewards to come quicker than was anticipated by the network? I had found an article a few days ago but cant relocate it. Must not have been signed into my google account at the time or they'd have archived my history.
410  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I just got .5 BTC out of nowhere? on: August 14, 2013, 03:16:04 PM
Any ideas on what happened?
says no tx found on network
411  Economy / Speculation / Re: CNBC 10 Minute Media Coverage on Bitcoin on: August 14, 2013, 12:27:03 AM
to da MOOONN!
412  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Seeking a team to develop Bitcointalk 2.0 forums (apply within) on: August 14, 2013, 12:24:48 AM
i just read this post and the one linked from it by jason. he used a lot of unnecessarily large words to say that the average person here is too stupid for his mighty brain, and grammar you use on internet forums=intelligence.

i am new here, but seriously, why is the loss of this member a bad thing? he seemed like a total dick from that post i read.
n00b here too, but perhaps it is a trend. Read further to see he was working on a public mining asic chip.
413  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: did ASIC ruin bitcoin ? on: August 14, 2013, 12:23:45 AM
nope, if i cant make a reasonable amount that positively effects my life i will find something else to do.
But bitcoin won't die because of that.
414  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: did ASIC ruin bitcoin ? on: August 14, 2013, 12:22:08 AM
if its not profitable to mine people wont mine and bitcoin will fail
...it's in our commercial interest to see transactions confirmed quickly, maintain multiple copies of the blockchain, and so on - it's _nice_ to see some Satoshi's from the miner, but it's certainly not necessary.
This will be the future, IMO...established companies with the proper equipment selling contracts to ensure the fastest confirms.
415  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: did ASIC ruin bitcoin ? on: August 14, 2013, 12:20:10 AM
Something about "worthless" and "big money" being in the same sentence is ringing as dissonance in my ears.

they will make the money and bail just like mining for gold oil or diamonds in third world countries. they will be there when its profitable and fuck you when they cant make no more off you.
What about when there are 0 btc left to be mined? Imagine we are in 2141. Are you happy with mining for TX fees?
416  Economy / Lending / Re: I need 0.50 btc for Marijuana on Silk Road on: August 14, 2013, 12:16:48 AM
You said the C word and Got Vod's attention! You might be getting high in 3-5 days after all.
417  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: did ASIC ruin bitcoin ? on: August 14, 2013, 12:13:32 AM
I am likely only to break even and am OK with that.


fuck that, you may be OK with that but i will bet you my soul the majority of people will not be OK with that. people dont invest to break even. they expect or hope for a return.

Buy BTC.
418  Economy / Lending / Re: 1 btc gamble , 300% return potential on: August 14, 2013, 12:08:15 AM
The satire probably does not work if you were the ones who fell for it -- namely each of those who replied to this post or believed it.
Joey u want moar pizzas?

Your argument is basically like what every guy says when he asks a girl to see her tits and gets rejected. "I was just kidding"
419  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: did ASIC ruin bitcoin ? on: August 14, 2013, 12:04:48 AM
why the fuck would anybody spend money on ASIC equipment pay electric and commit time if you cant make money?

if its not profitable to mine people wont mine and bitcoin will fail. at least people had a reason to spend money on GPU ASIC worthless if its not profitable.
If a restaurant is too crowded, nobody will eat there and it will go out of business.


if a restaurant is too crowded will cheesecake factory buy all of them and turn every one into cheesecake factories?

=D I want Buffalo Blasts
420  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: did ASIC ruin bitcoin ? on: August 13, 2013, 11:58:33 PM
why the fuck would anybody spend money on equipment pay electric and commit time if you cant make money?

if its not profitable to mine people wont mine and bitcoin will fail.

Difficulty adjusts.  If SOME people stop mining then difficulty will fall and those remaining will see their revenue rise and become profitable.  If difficulty falls too much then some people will turn rigs back on or buy new rigs and difficulty will rise again.  The network will adjust either way.

Also once hardware is purchased it is a sunk cost.  So long AFTER it becomes unprofitable to buy MORE NEW hardware, miners will continue to still operate their miners.  The only time it makes sense to a rig to be idle is when value of BTC < electricity used and that is at a difficulty much much higher (closer to 1 billion difficulty).  Even there it won't affect all miners equally.  The least efficient miners (lowerst MH/W and highest electrical cost) will idle first and help to lower difficulty.

So yes some miners may quit (and sell their rigs to other miners will cheaper power) and NEW hardware sales may flatline but miners will still keep mining as there is no economical reason not to.
Just to clarify, the general consensus is that ASICS will not lead to a more centralized mining group, correct? Be it in 10 years, 20, 30, whenever.

At some point, miners will be left only with TX fees, or contracts for fast confirmations.

I am not in agreement with OP generally, as I am presently mining with a couple ASICS and see no reason why he couldn't be as well. I am likely only to break even and am OK with that.
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