I was going to reply, consider this to be a way of further establishing trusted identification of bob, which led to me to think of it in a different way... BitID may hold some approaches.

To clarify I wasn't downplaying the role of establishing identification, it's an area I am very familiar with and was hoping to avoid creating another auth* protocol, and also tightly coupling to any specific existing ones.


Thank you Peter, I had forgotten about this.

I will merge seems applicable from BitID and BIP0070, then return to this subject later.

Thank you all for your valuable input so far, it is appreciated.

Very good points, turtles all the way down.

AuthN and AuthZ can be handled separately, any approaches described should be agnostic.

If we assume that a well-known network accessible resource Y is established as being under Bob's control, and that Mary knows of Y. What machine readable information can be be made available at Y, such that Mary can establish that the private key of ADDRESS is also controlled by the controller of Y?

What is the least amount of information that can be provided?

If we can establish that, then later we can consider perhaps shared secrets, ACL, etcetera.

Is this a fair approach?

I was wondering if anybody has documented approaches to validating the integrity of addresses which have been sent over plain text protocols?

Talking it out in the usual fashion:

Bob sends a payment request url to Mary.
Mary wishes to verify that Bob does control the private key corresponding to the address she received, cryptographically.
Harry cannot know the address, or that Mary and Bob have transacted.

Sign the address and publish the signature in a collection somewhere?

Input?

This is a good idea, several people have also corroborated your earlier comments in regard to speeding up donation amounts.

I would like to clarify - in case it is unclear - that the conceptual logo's are proposed to be adopted.

The buttons however are for illustrative purposes, to begin to convey the simplicity of the concept of marking. The implementation and user experience of many such buttons will be an ongoing focus of Project Bitmark, as they form a modular abstraction layer which hides the extensible uniformity behind, allowing Bitmark to be integrated everywhere.

Our goal quite simply, is to have ubiquitous adoption. Not some adoption, ubiquitous adoption, and enjoy the process of getting there.

DannyElfman, is there a line between trying to engage the wider community, and self promotion of a currency by it's developer?

It may be a discussion worth having, as sometimes the intention is just to get feedback and converse, and in other cases to try secure investment or encourage people to purchase currency.

As somebody trying to do the former whilst avoiding the latter, do you have any suggestions as to how one may proceed?

Hopefully I can be forgiven one thread hijack in 600 or so posts.

I have spoken with many of you before, would you mind taking two minutes to provide some feedback on this http://bitmark.co/bitmark.co/logo.html ?

In an effort to help this particular discussion, may I politely suggest that when suggesting a currency you may also want to specify why, and if you say because of some innovation or technology, also explain why or how it adds value, so that others may learn and gain some insight as to why your suggestion is so.

Thank you in advance,

Mark

Thank you.

We have just added a second example button to clarify usage. link

Major Update

We have produced a third iteration of the bitmark branding, a combined stateful logo, iconset and prototype marking button.

Please view the Bitmark Version3 Concept for full details.

You can find more details of Project Bitmark on the wiki together with an expanded concept document which discusses all aspects of Marking.

Thank You.

Coming back to this.

Have you had time to read the Marking document CoinHoarder? It should serve to distribute currency far and wide.

Cryptonight is the PoW implemented in the Cryptonote codebase.

Monero is based on Cryptonote and therefore both a cryptonote and cryptonight coin.

Which layer are you proposing a block chain should be? Data, Logic, or Presentation? You seem to be saying logic, when it's a distributed data layer.

If they managed to get passwords back to the 90s, including offline ones for routers and bank cards, then they can have it all

inuit is quite good.

For long passwords I tend to use all the passwords I previously used strapped together, it's longer than than a 256 bit private key with higher variance per character.

I completely agree, currency with no 'value', by the dictionary definition of value. Unused currency and empty blockchains, how sad.


People are too simple to use Computers.
Computers are not simple enough for people to use.

Today we have the bash shell and the touch screen device, something for everybody.
Today we have the crypto currency clients, and the

Perhaps also only the most "fit" investors/traders/miners will survive (survive meaning: still have money). Those that avoid the unfit coins.


Can you imagine the Table of Contents? 

In which direction is the selection happening? I sense you feel that bad clones will become extinct, but maybe bad clones make the greedy extinct?

Why is it easy to accept that somebody will work freely for a year, but not that another person would freely give a years wages?

Why does everybody want the full 100 BTC? Many have said they would distribute it, so why not ask for it to distributed it instead.

If I had $300 or more, and gave someone $10, would it seem extreme?

Does it matter if this is true or not, people on here accept far more BTC for doing very little, or nothing, and do not get a scammer tag. Yet somebody who offers to make a kind gesture, regardless of truth, is denigrated?

It is good. You know of Satoshi who started bitcoin with the words of a Chancellor - but not of a the later Chancellor Osborne - UK Chancellor of the Exchequer.

It is almost worth creating a currency just to put that in the genesis block.

If somebody would like to buy a domain and host it, say 'miningcosts.com' or something, I would be happy to make the foundation of a website where people could view and add their hashing costs for each algorithm. It would be interesting to see, and also useful data.

Production cost is very important, if a currency strays too far above it too quickly we know what happens, it also stops people paying over the odds in 'pump and dumps'.

For Bitmark, it would improve the quality of data we receive and give, in this instance to miners/traders/investors, and most pertinently the original question, how to provide a fair average price for businesses/users/services to use on a daily basis. This one


another discussion topic I was thinking about invoices, I saw a QR code on a bill last week...