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401  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [ANN] HashCoins - Cryptocurrency Mining Hardware Manufacturer on: April 25, 2015, 05:21:37 PM
Hi everyone. After reading the whole thread (yes, the 32 pages), I have concluded that in spite of some concerns about the real performance of a particular miner (the Zeus), the company seems legit for me. They have been operating for more than a year, they have sent hardware worldwide, they have sent even 2 testing units to a member of this forum that have been reviewed, and besides a particular case of an unhappy client in this thread, I can’t find dozens of threads of clients blaming the company (as other examples we all have in mind). Frankly, I think the company is delivering the hardware and that many concerns are due to instinctive distrust in new manufacturers and personal interests in other cases.

So I decided to pre-order 4 Triton boards. And as I want to contribute to the community, I will share with you a follow-up of my experience to try to clear the status of the company. To make clear that I am a real purchaser, this is the order confirmation of the 2 first boards: http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w30/hakkane/Order_5616%20blurred_zps3wjqrx9q.jpg  
I placed the second order on Friday 24, so I still don’t have the confirmation: I will post it as soon as I have it. Tritons are currently preorders, and they indicated me that they plan to start shipping them on May.

Some people may be concerned about I am a newbie in the forum, and thus I can be a fabricated user, as other users have been accused of. For those, I recommend to look at my posting history: you will find high quality posts as a broad analysis of the hash rate evolution https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1018398.0 (where of course I invite you to participate :-D) or an elaborated guide & review of a miner https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1022085.0 I think this kind of posts are not compatible with a false account ;-)

Stay tunned!
402  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: 「魚池」Discus Fish - BTC: 70 PH - LTC: 350 GH - 4% PPS 🐟 on: April 25, 2015, 04:59:02 AM
Besides the problem of the language barrier, I start to think that he maybe has some kind of problem of obsessive behaviour. He asks, we give him the answers, sometimes apparently he becomes satisfied and say thanks. But as soon as anyone else offers another possible solution, he immediately becomes obsessed with it and asks about it cumpulsively. Again we answer, he gets relaxed, but someone says a differnt thing and the cycle restarts.

He reminds me to someone I had to work with 2 years ago that suffered Asperger Syndrome: nice guy, hard worker, but you had to give him very defined directions. If you offer him 2 possibilities to do a thing, he would become obsessed and start asking 100 questions, unable to accomplish even simple tasks. I don't claim he is Asperger, but I see a similar obsessive behaviour.

Said so, sorry to Discus Fish for this off-topic :-(
403  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon nano advice on: April 24, 2015, 01:16:27 PM
Are you cooling them appropiately with a USB fan or so? USB mining sticks can get really hot, specially if you are connecting those 3 beasts very close to each other. If overheated, maybe they would be disconnecting for security.

There is a recent thread of the Avalon Nano here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1022764.0 But I am sure Notlist3D will appear soon with help over here ;-)
404  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: best pool on: April 22, 2015, 09:10:17 PM
Your see , coming soon i have 0.004btc on 24h.
In the front is 6 hourse ))

Good to see that :-)

- Your S3 setup is ok
- Antpool is working ok
- You only need one extra thing: relax and wait  Smiley

Don't get obsessed. You will not make more BTC by doing a different thing. Wait for a week

After 24 hours of connecting to the pool, the payments should be stable. You are now at that point
Some days, the pool will have bad luck, and you will earn 0.0035
Some days, the pool will have good luck, and you will earn 0.0050
After a week, if you divide your total earnings by 7, on average you will see you earned 0.0040-0.0045

If you turn off the S3 8 hours per day because it makes noise and you need to sleep, it is ok, but you will make 0.0025-0.0030
If you turn it off some minutes each day, nothing will happen (but you don't need to do it!)

Don't get obsessed: everything is working. Don't post more problems in the forum, because you don't have any problem right now!  Wink
Come next week and tell us that everything is ok
During this week just read the forums and try to learn as much as you can. Read and learn
405  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: best pool on: April 22, 2015, 01:52:38 PM
As people have indicated in other threads:

- You need to run your S3 the 24 hours of the day. If you run it 16 hours --> 0.00026
- You need to run your S3 at least 2 full days to have stable payments. Pools pay depending on how did you participated in the previous xx hours (xx depends on the pool).

Example: a pool pays your participation in the last 20 hours. So if you have been mining with them only 5 hours you will recieve only a 25% of what you expect. Yo have to be mining FULL 20 hours and then you will start to see your correct payments.

I think you still don't understand what represents the luck of a pool, so I will try to make it very simple with an example:


*\__/ The example \__/*

Imagine you are in a casino, playing with a 20-sided dice. You will roll the dice each 10 minutes:



Antpool (a big pool) says --> "If you obtain a 1, 2, 3, 4 or 5, I will pay you $10"
Ghash (a small pool) says ---> "If you obtain a 6, I will pay you $50"
Note: $10 and $50 are just examples

Which is better??? Both are the same! They pay you the same amount corresponding to the probability you have to win with them.

With Antpool, you have small but frequent payments. With Ghash you you have unfrequent, but big payments.

But if you play with any of them during a week you will see the same payment

That is the important thing: You have to stay with your pool at least a FULL WEEK, mining 24 hours/day to see how much is really paying you. Stand a week with Antpool, and you will see on average your desired 0.0004btc/day

More clear now?
406  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Can miners scam their pool? on: April 21, 2015, 02:10:11 AM
Ok. Thanks a lot. Then, I understand that the wallet of the pool is included in the hashing operation miners have to perform. Thus, if the destination wallet is to be changed, the hash that solved the block is not valid anymore.

I haven't seen this question in the time I've been around here, but if it is a frequent question, please -ck, feel free to erase this thread  Wink
407  Bitcoin / Pools / Can miners scam their pool? on: April 21, 2015, 12:55:40 AM
Hello guys,

I have a theoretical question. I am sure it is impossible, as otherwise pools would be a ruin, but I am curious to know how it is prevented. Many people is concerned that his/her pool is hiding some of the mined blocks, mining them to the only profit of the pool owner. But, is the opposite also possible?

Let's consider an evil miner, with their gear pointed to a pool. He sends the shares (hashes close to the block solution) to the pool, and get a proportional profit from the other miners that solve blocks. But if that miner find the solution of the block, instead of sending it to the pool, he retains that hash and uses it to mine the whole block to himself (solo mining), in a selfish way.

How pools prevent this situation? Thanks in advance!
408  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: s3 problem , why moving ? on: April 17, 2015, 07:55:23 PM
you what advice me ? which pool is good ?


i' m interested, this ghash.io how many time get me earning bitcoin ?

I advice you use the pool you prefer Smiley. If you like Ghash.io it is perfect. Other people like other pools. I like BTCGuild, but is only my opinion. At the end of the week you will earn the same Bitcoins in Ghash or any other pool (if pool works correctly).

How much time it will take to earn your first bitcoins? It depends on the luck. It can happen in 10 minutes, in 1 hour, in 10 hours or in 10 days. It will happen, don't worry.
409  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: s3 problem , why moving ? on: April 17, 2015, 07:17:27 PM

this 5 block bad is ?

Little is?

No, it is ok, don't worry.
Small pool (example: Ghash) --> less blocks, but more bitcoin in each block
Big pool (example: Antpool) --> more blocks, but less bitcoin in each block

On average: bitcoins payed in small pool = bitcoins payed on big pool

BUT: big pool --> regular payments (every day the same bitcoins). Small pool --> some days more, some days less


No. It will not pay every hour (no pool do that): Only every time the pool finds a block. More blocks (big pool) --> more regular. Less blocks (small pool) --> variable. But the same amount of bitcoins on average (at the end of the week/month
410  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: s3 problem , why moving ? on: April 17, 2015, 07:05:14 PM
How much time get some bitcoin in mining ? i have yet 0.0000000

Be patient. Ghash and all the pools pay only when the pool finds a block. More blocks --> more payment.

Ghash should find about 5 blocks / day (it has a total of 10 Th/s, less than a 3% of all miners in the world). But depends on the luck of the pool: some days it will find only 2 or 3 blocks --> less bitcoins. Some days it will find 7 or more --> More bitcoins
411  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: s3 problem , why moving ? on: April 17, 2015, 03:19:31 PM
If you already created a Cex.io/ghah.io account with the username "toqchista", it should work once Ghash servers are up again.

You don't need to introduce your password, you can write in password whatever you want


PS: Toqchista, I would like to ask you a thing. Please don't be offended, but I am a bit shocked. In your last screenshot i see that you have pinned to the taskbar of windows the software Microsoft Visual Studio. Do you have programming skills but at the same time problems with networking (and other things you asked in the past)?. Programming for me is a very complicated task, and I admire people that do it. And generally programmers have knowledge in several other areas of computers and computing. I'm just a bit confused

EDIT--> Correct, Ghash is under maintenance right now: https://support.cex.io/hc/en-us/articles/205495067
412  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: s3 problem , why moving ? on: April 17, 2015, 02:43:30 PM
Congratulations. I'm happy to see you are finally ready to mine.

what happens Ghash.io ?

Ghash.io server is down right now, not working. Probably they are under a DDoS attack (hackers attacking). Pools are attacked regurally. Wait some hours until Ghash works again, or choose another pool.
413  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Possible fraud on 2 ebay avalon 4.1 auctions. on: April 17, 2015, 01:54:24 PM
Sad to hear of this to a good person.  What kind of item is the "gift"?
Yes... I hope we can see a happy ending on this. In my case, the gift was an ugly jade pendant of a dragon. And it is greasy, very greasy!!

Philipma, I forgot to mention it. When I had problems with this seller, as he was not answering me I posted on eBay forums to ask their community some recommendations. The link of that thread is http://community.ebay.com/t5/Shipping-Returns/Possible-scam-What-do-you-think-and-what-do-you-recommend-me/m-p/23811127#M81176

As in any forum, you will see each one has its opinion of what to do, and people trolling about why I purchased a "miracle machine". But I think it may help you to see your possibilities if things go sour with this guy.
414  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Possible fraud on 2 ebay avalon 4.1 auctions. on: April 16, 2015, 06:49:02 PM
Hi Philipma, do you have news about this? Is he going to send you the miner or did you requested the refund? In case you go ahead and wait hi sends the Avalon, I'm thinking it could be a good idea to open a case on eBay of "item not as described", as if it takes more than 14 days to send you the real miner, you would be unprotected by ebay and Paypal will give him the money.

As I told, in my case I requested him the return, but however yesterday the "gift" arrived. And it is odd, as I live in NYC, you in NJ and you recieved it before (I think all these goods arrive at JFK). OMG, is the ugliest thing I've seen in my life...  Shocked
415  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: CEX.io GHS Bubble ? on: April 14, 2015, 07:23:23 PM
Why are u posting these kinda crap ? What cloud mining ?
What are you talking about ?
Oh ... u just posted to raise your post count ... didnt you ?

Hello Rammy. As you may remember Cex.IO stopped their cloud mining operations on January and they stated they would focus on the exchange part of the service. Since then, the volume of BTC<-->USD have decreased, and the picture of the current situation is what I showed in the other post: the Market Deepth graph you can see in their webpage. A sane exchange have equilibrated demand and offer, or in terms of that graph, both halves should be similar (as it was some months ago in cex.io). But right now they have 10 times more offer of BTC than demand. In other words: if right now all the BTC owners would want to sell them, they would receive less than $35 on average. This may indicate that bitcoin buyers have lost the trust in the exchange, in the BTC or in both.

I am a user of Cex and I wouldn’t like to see them disappear (yesterday I exchanged $50, p.e.). But they are facing several problems these days that may compromise their business:

-   Cloud mining is interrupted
-   GHash.IO pool is losing its slice of the pie of the hashrate (less fees due to miners exchanging)
-   The exchange is reducing its volume (less fees they can charge)

Is it more clear to you now? I took my time yesterday to make the image I posted and I’m taking my time to answer you. Do you really think I am posting to increase my rate? And please, save to yourself stuff as calling me clown.

Happy mining, trading or wathever you do
416  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: CEX.io GHS Bubble ? on: April 13, 2015, 10:35:35 PM
Not only the cloud mining is bad. What is concerning is the BTC trading... there is no people buying Bitcoins!!:




In other words: there are potentially 13900USD available to buy 409BTC. This is $34 per Bitcoin...

Cex.IO is ill, and frankly I don't desire them to disappear, I like that exchange. But I think they can't survive this way much longer

417  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Possible fraud on 2 ebay avalon 4.1 auctions. on: April 13, 2015, 05:06:57 AM
Hi Philipma!!

Yes, I have the same experience with this guy buying an Avalon 4.1 in the exaclty same listing. First of all, in my case it ended with a refund, so maybe this guy is not a scammer, he is just selling whitout having the units in hand.

3 days after the purchase, he added a tracking number to eBAy. 2 days after we wrote me that for quality check he was going to test the unit for 15 days, and that what he sent me already was a "gift". I answered that as he was a reseller, he hasn't to test anything. Next he wrote that he was imprecise, that it was the manufacturer who was testing. I replied that in that case he was selling something he didn't own in hand, thus he was violating the terms of eBay. Finally he acceded to a full refund.

He has a terrible english and is slow answering, but I hope if you contact him he will accept a refund. Of course, everybody have to be warned with this guy, I don't recommend him.

If you need it to take actions against him on eBay, please PM me, as maybe you can explain them that more people has bad experience with him

EDIT--> Another warn to the people: he is a jewelry seller. In his selling history he has some scrypt miners. However, all that listings were ended by himself in advance, so they are not actual sellings. Everything around him is strange. But as I told, in my case he fully refunded my money. Good luck Philima!!!
418  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon Nano - Stick Mining Fun! on: April 12, 2015, 09:16:35 PM
Thanks for the review, notlist3d. It looks very cute! Does it have LED lights when it's hashing?
419  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Guide+Review] Prospero X-1.5. Up to 0.72W/GHs. Perfect for newbies! on: April 12, 2015, 05:48:11 PM
Nicely done on the review.  That is a heck of a lcd on this unit.  Is it a certain brand tablet? Or just generic?
Thanks a lot :-) No, it is not a real tablet. Just a Rockchip motherboard connected to a LCD screen. However it can be used as an Android thing, in spite the screen is not very responsive and the processor a bit slow. It reminds me to the cheap android phones of 2-3 years ago.

I'm also concerned about the title - "perfect for newbies". It just sounds like you are trying to encourage noobs to purchase them from BlackArrow & get ripped off, even providing a link to the BA forum that is heavily moderated to eliminate bad customer feedback - of which there is plenty. It's anything BUT perfect for noobs, or anyone else for that matter  Tongue
Would you be so kind to read again the first paragraphs of the OP, more carefully?. You will see I state very clearly things as "The personal recommendation of who writes this is not buying in any case any product directly from this company". Would you be so kind also to check the thread I link? If you do it you'll see it is NOT the official BA thread but the main thread of people affected by the scam. Thanks

Black Arrow is a scam company and stole millions from investors.  Do not do business with them.  There also is no confirmed X1.5 units that have shipped yet, since they were supposed to be for compensation and BA reneged on sending any compensation to those who got screwed by them.
They  definitely shipped some X1.5 miners to people that ordered X1s originally. I'm afraid it is true to say BA has very few, if any satisfied customers!
As far as I know you can't get these new, this is a second hand market, I think!

"In spite I empathize completely with those affected by the company, I would like to strongly request them not to post here if it is for criticizing the company, as this thread is for helping those who have acquired a used unit. Of course, Black Arrow is not welcome to post here if it is not exclusively for contributing with technical info."

sorry Hakkane!
It's ok. People affected by the scam have the right to protest and I hope some day justice will be deliverd to those behind the company. But there are already several threads for those claims: this thread is for a different thing. In the last weeks I started to see many listings on eBay of Prosperos, that probably will end in the hands of unexperienced people, as they are cheap. Those people eventually will land in this forum, and I wrote this hoping I can help them. Just to clarify: I am NOT a happy BA costumer: I bought my 3 units on eBay, so I'm a happy costumer of my eBayer.

Nice review on a terrible company.  I almost bought 5 X1's glad I didn't.  But great review and well done.  Seems they spent more on the lcd than anything else.
Thaaanks! ^_^
420  Bitcoin / Hardware / [Guide+Review] Prospero X-1.5. Up to 0.72W/GHs. Perfect for newbies! on: April 12, 2015, 07:35:56 AM



0) About Black Arrow
1) The concept
2) Specifications
3) Gallery
4) Configuration
5) Underclocking
6) Creative secondary uses
7) Veredict

0) About Black Arrow

I think any analysis of a product of BA should start with some words about the company. BA announced by the end of 2013 their new Minion chips, with a revolutionary (at that time) efficiency of 0.7W/GHs. 2 Miners were announced, the X-1 and the X-3, opening preorders by September of that year and promising delivering them no late than February 2014. What came before filled tons of threads and legal actions. No unit was shipped on time: the luckiest ones received them on October, many other never received them, promises of compensation with cloud mining where false, refunds never arrived… Moreover, the X-3 had design defects both in the PSU and the mainboard (unnecessary capacitators that were not removed for the final design, as confesed by BA in their forum) that provoked failures and fires. New people not familiar with the story of this company should read threads of the affected (as https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=774278.0) if they are considering buying any product of the company, especially as they have launched a new product, a hardware wallet.

The personal recommendation of who writes this is not buying in any case any product directly from this company. However, these days we can see many used X-1 and X-1.5 units on sale on eBay under $120, and I write this Guide+Review for those interested on buying it, as I think it has many advantages for newbies interested in start mining.

In spite I empathize completely with those affected by the company, I would like to strongly request them not to post here if it is for criticizing the company, as this thread is for helping those who have acquired a used unit. Of course, Black Arrow is not welcome to post here if it is not exclusively for contributing with technical info.

1) The concept

BA included their Minion chips in two completely different miners: 1) The server-oriented, big, heavy and noisy X-3, with 1 Th/s of mining power (as far as I know I think there is a revision with 2 Th/s), 2) The home-oriented, tiny and friendly X-1 (and its revision, the X-1.5) with 100 Gh/s (150Gh/s in the miner we talk about today). Both were conceived as totally stand-alone units: including an internal PSU, a control board, and a touch screen for configuring them. Just plug and mine. Have BA launched these miners on time, they would have probably became the reference for all the industry and BA a leader company.

The X-1.5 is a miner oriented to those who want a small, quiet and easy to operate miner. You don’t need to acquire a PSU (power supply unit) as with the big majority of the miners in market. Neither you need a control board, or a computer or a Raspberry Pi, everything is inside this box not much bigger than a computers ATX. You don’t even need a computer for the initial setup! You can do this on its touch screen. It comes with a WiFi antenna, so you can place it virtually on any place of your home. It is so discreet that probably no visits will ask you about it, so you will not feel as having a marijuana plantation at home.

2) Specifications

Dimensions: 8cm x 21cm x 23cm (3.15in x 8.27in x 9in)

Weight:
2.1kg

Chip architecture:
“The Minion”, with 28nm architecture

Hashing power:
150 Gh/s at default speed (100 Gh/s in the case of the X-1). It can be overclocked to 180 Gh/s

Power efficiency: BA claims 0.75 W/GHs. However, this is for the chip only. Considering the board, the fan, and loses of the PSU, in my hands they work at 135-140 Watts “at the wall” (measured with a watt-meter), meaning an efficiency of about 0.91 W/GHs. However, as I’ll show later we can underclock it up to 0.72, much more acceptable nowadays

Cooling: A titanic single 20cm fan from Cooling Master at the right side. Extremely quiet. Miner is not designed to be stacked to allow airflow. However, if underclocked, I would say you can stack 3 without problems

Control board: Rockchip motherboard running an Android 4.4.2. The SO is controlled thanks to a 4 inches display (not very responsive, I have to say). Older X-1 versions does not include the display, and uses an integrated Raspberry Pi model B instead. Miner software is cgminer.

PSU:
A customized PSU that BA claims have an efficiency of 92%. The connector is proprietary, so it can’t be replaced by a conventional PSU. Uses a 3-pronged power cable, “mickey mouse” style.

Connections:
1x Ethernet port, 1x WiFi antenna, 3x USB (1 front, 2 rear), microSD port (for use with Android and also for reflashing the unit). The X-1 does not include the WiFi capabilities.


3) Gallery













4) Configuration

1- Plug the power cord
2- Choose your mining pool (on screen or using a web interface)
3- Become rich!!!! (well, actually not…)

As simple as this!! Once powered on, the Android will launch Chrome browser on the screen and showing the stats of the miner. Temperature will be shown only as increments of 20ºC (if other number is shown, it is the average of the Prosperos on your rig). Pressing “Pool” will take you to a simple screen in which you configure your main pool and 2 backups. “>” and then “Device” takes you to clocking settings.



The 3 buttons in the bottom allows you to navigate through the Android system. You can install and use any android app (yes, you can install Office or Angry Birds). The Blackarrow app in the main screen takes you back to the miner info page, while Settings will let you configure things as the WiFi network.

Alternatively, you can use other computer. Open a web browser and type the IP address that the miner page of your unit shows. For example http://192.168.0.5



User name: user
Password: blackarrow
Yubikey: don’t type anything

The interface is completely different from the one of the miners, but you can see detailed statistics and configure mostly the same things.

Just one important note: NEVER UPDATE THE MINER TO v1.18, as the interface suggests. Several users have reported instabilities or even bricked miners. That update was prepared for the X-3, and not optimized for its small brothers. I suggest you versions 1.16, 1.17 or whichever your miner includes by default. More info in the Black Arrow forum: http://ecointalk.net/
 
5) Underclocking

These instructions are not my merit, but the merit of the people in BA forums, I’m just compiling them. Thanks to them. The easiest way is go to the “Device” page from the miner info page, and set a voltage form the list below, but I discovered that several times the miner will resist it and go back to default settings. So I recommend you go the hard way: by SSH using a terminal (you know, that black screens with white text you see in films about hackers). Don’t worry, it is actually very easy and I’ll guide you step by step:

1 – Download and unzip the Putty software: http://www.putty.org/
2- Open it. Write your miner’s IP addres (remember, it is on your miner’s screen) and click Open
3- When it requests a user, type: ba (and press enter, of course)
4- When it requests a password, type: ba (and enter)
5- Congrats, you have hacked it and you are now the superuser!! Now let’s go to the appropriate folder, type: cd /home/ba/bamc (and hit enter)
6- Let’s see what is inside, type: ls –al (enter)
7a- Newer versions of the firmware will include the file “bamc.conf”. Type: nano bamc.conf
8a- Go to the line Voltage (with the arrow keys of your keyboard) and change it with one of the values of the table below. Pres Ctrl+X, press “y” to overwrite the file. Unplug your miner and plug it in again
7b- Older versions. Type: cgminer.sh. Localize the line “power_manager 80” and change the “80” with the hexadecimal code of the voltage you want (see table below). Crtl+X to exit, save it and unplug the miner.

Once done, the miner will restart several times the cgminer until it finds an appropriate clocking frequency. In my hands, the trick is to find the minimum voltage that drives to a Frequency of 500 Hz, or the next superior voltage value if it is a bit unstable (many errors mining). I recommend you to test several, using a watt-metter to assess your real efficiency. In my hands, in general a Voltage of 0.6625 drives 100 Gh/s at 72 watts with only a 0.1% of errors (better than default settings). But this optimal voltage can be different depending on the particular miner. This is the table of accepted voltages and the corresponding hexadecimal code:

0.85000   7A
0.84375    7B
0.83750    7C
0.83125    7D
0.82500    7E
0.81875    7F
0.81250    80
0.80625    81
0.80000    82
0.79375    83
0.78750    84
0.78125    85
0.77500    86
0.76875    87
0.76250    88
0.75625    89
0.75000    8A
0.74375    8B
0.73750    8C
0.73125    8D
0.72500    8E
0.71875    8F
0.71250    90
0.70625    91
0.70000    92
0.69375    93
0.68750    94
0.68125    95
0.67500    96
0.66875    97
0.66250    98
0.65625    99
0.65000    9A
0.64375    9B
0.63750    9C
0.63125    9D
0.62500    9E

6) Creative secondary uses

Many times we complain about the fact that ASICs are machines that can’t be used for any other purpose than mining, with the exception of heating your home. Well, I would say the Prospero X-1/1.5 is the first miner with further uses once it’s life as miner has ended. You just need imagination:

- Android computer. You have a whole Android thing with a 4-inch display. Flash it, root it, play with it. I don’t know much about android or modding, but if you can install a linux on it, I can imagine serveral uses: storage server if you connect an HDD? Set-top-box using Miracast? The first version of of the X-1 came with a Raspberry Pi model B instead of the android thing, so you can use it for even more things!

- USB power supply. It has 3 USB! Three! You can charge your phone, your girlfriend’s phone and your tablet at the same time, while you admire those fancy green and blue lights :-D

- Mining board for USB miners? It has USBs. It is a linux machine, after all. It is running cgminer. I haven’t tested it, but theory says it should work as a control board for other miners! An rPi costs $30, and this thing about $120, ok, but you have in the same package a display (a modder for sure will be able to do incredible things), WiFi connectivity and 150 extra GH/s for your rig!!! A nice deal, I would say.


7) Veredict

This miner belongs to a past generation, and the current generation (Avalon 4.1, Antminer S5, SP20-30-35) reach speeds much higher and efficiencies under 0.55 W/Ghs. This miner nowadays is not profitable: Even people not paying the electricity would need more than one year to return their investment.

In the current scene of more and more centralized bitcoin mining, manufacturers only develop miners for big data centers and farms, where cooling and noise is not a problem. But what about home miners and hobbyists, who usually can’t host a noisy a hot machine. What about those who want to mine but don’t want to have a mess of cables on a table from the PSU to the miner, those who doesn’t know nothing about mining, but only want something small over a shelf? The exception is the Avalon 4.1, very quiet and of a manageable size, but it is extremely costly. For beginners, the S3 is usually recommended due to its reduced price and noise, but the buyer needs to acquire a PSU, and some people don’t like to have a mess of cables looking as if they were going to ignite at any moment.

They may be producing a ridiculous amount of Bitcoin at the moment (about 0.0015/day today, April 2015) but the current price of used units makes the Prospero X-1.5 a good option for beginners. Miner, PSU, cooling and controller, all inside a small black metaled brick, equipped with interesting extras as WiFi connectivity and a touch screen to make it completely stand-alone. Those who pay moderately high electricity can underclock it under 0.75 W/Ghs, thus at least paying its electricity consumption. Extremely quiet (I run 3 on my small NYC apartment) and producing barely appreciable heat.

Ready to mine without any knowledge about efficiencies of PSUs, modding, rPIs, flashed SD cards, linux or different mining software. Just plug it in, choose your pool, and forget it.


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