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Wonder why Betcoin doesnt have green trust by there name anymore?
What happened?
Maybe perhaps it was because of all the cheating players and lying about it?
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I have checked my rake paid on betcoin vs. what xiao has sent me on several occasions and always found it to be 2-5% too little. I have addressed this with him on several occasions and he doesn't agree. This is a big deal considering that I also have a Gold VIP level I referred to him, whom of which I am supposed to receive 5% rake paid. This 2-5% short also does not include any fees paid to WPN for tournaments. I have thus far chose not to make a big deal out of this because I can not get a better deal anywhere else, but I feel this information should be known.
Ungod, is your alternate forum name "xxlithiumx"? If so, we've been over this in private message and the rakeback you were receiving has always been consistent to within 1% with the data I'm supplied with. Regarding your referral, if he's not playing, I can't pay you. Even if he tells you he's played a lot last week, it doesn't necessarily mean he's paid a lot of rake. scumbag move 1: Xiao i know ungods betcoin sn is ungod so im guessing u asked him about other name just to show what happens if you question xiaoxiao, u get info u want to be private made public. scumbag move 2: ungod is saying that you are skimming 2-5% off the top every week and mentions it adding up because of his referred players to you. you respond to something he never says " Regarding your referral, if he's not playing, I can't pay you. " no shit if hes not playing you dont get his rake...u obviously just tryin to make it seem like ungod is bitching about not getting paid for a player who isnt playing. When REALLY hes bitching about you skimming 2-5% , that would add up to a LOT since you have over 400 players, and you been doing it for a loong time |
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Xiao gets paid to bring players to Betcoin.
Betcoin steals from players.
Xiao says Betcoin only stole pennies for a brief period
Players show Xiao proof that Betcoin was stealing 10's of Bitcoins for almost a month and a half.
Xiao says Betcoin only stole pennies for a brief period
Players ask Xiao to explain why he keeps saying this.
Xiao tries to play the victim!
"I'm not even an employee or staff member and you just continue to attack me. "
Players keep asking why Xiao thinks Betcoin only stole pennies briefly when theres proof that they stole way more for way longer
Xiao posts tutorial on enabling automatic time bank because "People have been upset over the 3 second warning until timeout"
Amazing
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Hi everyone!
Weekly payout has been sent!
Cheers!
Where ya been? What about this?  I can't find anything about "Bestslotsgambling" anywhere. When I search, all top results are either the fair gaming page on BTC-Casino.io from above, or a BTC-io affiliate that pasted it into their site. It's kind of hard to imagine the "leading software provider in the gaming industry" can't be found anywhere online, or mentioned by any other online casino. Perhaps you could share some information on this so that affiliates will be able to continue to drive traffic to your site with a clear conscious. This is being ignored in the BTC Casino thread as well. Your "leading software provider" doesn't seem to exist. |
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Just a reminder, Betcoin steals funds from players who don't sign up under Xiaoxiao so they can afford to pay players who do!
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Can somebody explain what's the difference between 0 and 0.0005? yeah I know it's 0.0005 which equals exactly...buyin for broke ass people.
There is literally no difference between 0 buyin and 0.0005 buyin. Make it something like 0.010-0.030 btc with guranteed 0.5-1 btc or something which is worth playing.
0.0005 = 0.0005 more than moonbind can afford for even 1 account. fortunejack you may as well call jack-shit i'm afraid, this is bad news, i wanna kill myself  0 = moonbind can afford as many accounts as she wants i am happy
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Has anyone experienced any bugs with the tablestarter? It has worked perfectly for me except for this one time:
I got the confirmation bar in the table starter bonus panel when one hour was up (as usual), but I never got poker_table_starter_complete, only poker_table_starter_canceled. I was told to create a ticket, but support isn't helping me. The session itself was just like any other session, I can't really see why it would be canceled. Only difference was that I was felted on the last hand and just left with zero chips.
This is most likely because you exited the table before the hour was up. 5 stars. |
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Hi,
In my opinion the exception given for "instant withdraws" to Betcoin is too generous.
I realize the potential fraud that peer to peer poker exposes them to, but it's gotten to the point that they are using it as an excuse to process players withdraws at their leisure.
There's no reason Betcoin can't consider cashouts made by non poker players seperately. It should only take a minute to check and see if a player has played any poker or transfered funds to another player.
Nitrogen also offers poker, although less focused on it, and their withdraws are nearly always truly instant.
Less than a year ago, at Betcoin I was comfortable requesting an expedited withdraw by live chat and could expect the withdraw to be complete in 30-60 minutes. That was great. Now I always hesitate to even ask, as I worry the next time I may consider the withdraw even more urgent but because I have annoyed them already so recently, they may toss me lower in the pile. I would say I average just under 2 withdraws a week since I prefer to keep my balance as low as possible.
There is a 6-10 hour window every day during which only a skeleton staff is working, around 1 or 2 am untill 9 or 10 am. Any cashout requested during this time are left untill managers return. The same is true for almost any sunday. Thet simply dont have anyone processing withdraws, you have to wait until someone comes into work monday morning (which is never a set time)
Also, their bet grading has slipped over the last 6 months or so. It was at it's worst during the first half of the NFL. Many times my bets fomr the 1pm game were graded as late as the second half of the 4pm game. One could never hope to use winnings from a 1pm game to bet a 4pm game.
Theyve improved a bit, but still far too often a bet will remain ungraded for hours and support is no help.
I wish I'd found this thread sooner, as I've always just used Betcoin and Nitrogen.(no issues with nitrogen)
I've never really been a fan of Jetwin, but it's just personal preference I think on how it's laid out.
I've never even heard of BetBTC and overlooked BitcoinRush but will definitely be checking these out soon as well as others and report back if any issues.
(March is my christmas with NCAA and all)
With the way Betcoin has been behaving on the poker related side, and things in general on all fronts getting worse not better, Its time to say good bye for good to Betcoin I think. I should of done it sooner, but you know how it is when you get used to a certain casino.
This is solid work though all around, thank you Peeps, from a gambler
Thanks cryptosmoker. I'll contact Betcoin to see what they say. They will say very nice things about themself I am sure  |
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Hi,
In my opinion the exception given for "instant withdraws" to Betcoin is too generous.
I realize the potential fraud that peer to peer poker exposes them to, but it's gotten to the point that they are using it as an excuse to process players withdraws at their leisure.
There's no reason Betcoin can't consider cashouts made by non poker players seperately. It should only take a minute to check and see if a player has played any poker or transfered funds to another player.
Nitrogen also offers poker, although less focused on it, and their withdraws are nearly always truly instant.
Less than a year ago, at Betcoin I was comfortable requesting an expedited withdraw by live chat and could expect the withdraw to be complete in 30-60 minutes. That was great. Now I always hesitate to even ask, as I worry the next time I may consider the withdraw even more urgent but because I have annoyed them already so recently, they may toss me lower in the pile. I would say I average just under 2 withdraws a week since I prefer to keep my balance as low as possible.
There is a 6-10 hour window every day during which only a skeleton staff is working, around 1 or 2 am untill 9 or 10 am. Any cashout requested during this time are left untill managers return. The same is true for almost any sunday. Thet simply dont have anyone processing withdraws, you have to wait until someone comes into work monday morning (which is never a set time)
Also, their bet grading has slipped over the last 6 months or so. It was at it's worst during the first half of the NFL. Many times my bets fomr the 1pm game were graded as late as the second half of the 4pm game. One could never hope to use winnings from a 1pm game to bet a 4pm game.
Theyve improved a bit, but still far too often a bet will remain ungraded for hours and support is no help.
I wish I'd found this thread sooner, as I've always just used Betcoin and Nitrogen.(no issues with nitrogen)
I've never really been a fan of Jetwin, but it's just personal preference I think on how it's laid out.
I've never even heard of BetBTC and overlooked BitcoinRush but will definitely be checking these out soon as well as others and report back if any issues.
(March is my christmas with NCAA and all)
With the way Betcoin has been behaving on the poker related side, and things in general on all fronts getting worse not better, Its time to say good bye for good to Betcoin I think. I should of done it sooner, but you know how it is when you get used to a certain casino.
This is solid work though all around, thank you Peeps, from a gambler
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Hey looks like some guys with brains found the thread! Add "licensed and tested by imaginary company" if its not on the list already. (I think they are saying "yeah so what, we still pay") I did a little bit of reasearch on the fair gaming policy: I can't find anything about "Bestslotsgambling" anywhere. When I search, all top results are either the fair gaming page on BTC-Casino.io from above, or a BTC-io affiliate that pasted it into their site. It's kind of hard to imagine the "leading software provider in the gaming industry" can't be found anywhere online, or mentioned by any other online casino. Perhaps you could share some information on this so that affiliates will be able to continue to drive traffic to your site with a clear conscious. Are players still having to wait weeks/months+ for their "turn" to receive a cashout? Just gonna pretend you cant see this? Software issues, really? Even though they have the "leading software provider in the gaming industry"? Oh wait, their provider doesn't seem to exist. Hello guys! The issues might have happened, but we never avoid compensating. If you still have issues with compensation, please PM us and we'll get it resolved. Thanks Best Regards BTC Casino |
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Hey advice to everyone, if you dont want to be treated like shill, DONT ACT LIKE ONE For clarity, players receive VIP points when you use your bitcoin to buy into a satellite tournament based on the fees you pay. You do not receive VIP points on the tournament that you are entered into once you win the seat.
...and, by the way, it is what happens in every FIAT based pokerroom. So hope noone will complain about it. Could you please name one other online poker room that has this policy? Have plenty more to say on this later. ACR, Stars to name two. It only makes logical sense considering you are not paying the full fee to get into the tournament that you have satellited into. I was wondering why Betcoin even posted this because I didn't see anyone ever mention this in the thread and it would seem common sense. What are your complaints about this twitchyseal? The whole iPoker network just to name another one. Btw Stars and iPoker network are the first two in poker industry for number of players |
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Please comprehend that you push when you and the dealer have the blackjack. This is what happened to you with the hand ID that you sent to our support. We are not providing the answers to customers without thorough analysis. We have analysed your hand in our database and gave you the sequence of the blackjack game that really happened.
Please comprehend that your rules are wrong, they need to be changed, not just the grammar. "A Player and Dealer Blackjack on the same hand results a loss." Please also comprehend that the terms and conditions listed for for your poker room are completely ridiculous. They say you require documents from everyone, and you will close any account and seize the funds if a player is from USA or many other countries wtf? Could you show me where did you find that information on the site. -snip- Feel free to send bug bounty. Username: TwitchySeal Please show me the information where we have on the site the term and condition for the poker room where we require the documents from everyone and close or seize the funds if player is from USA. I showed you on 2/19: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=774929.msg13939407#msg13939407I showed you again on 2/22: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=774929.msg13972067#msg13972067Here is the link to your own Terms of Use: https://poker.fortunejack.com/terms.htmlHere is where you require documents from everyone: Section 2. To maintain a high level of security, the Company reserves the right to conduct a security review at any time to validate your identity, verify your financial transactions and further document your consent to this Agreement. To facilitate these security checks, you agree to provide such identification or other information or documentation (including but not limited to copies of a valid passport/identity card and/or any payment cards used) YOUR WARRANTIES AND REPRESENTATIONS
You warrant and represent that:
you are not a resident of Afghanistan, Antigua and Barbuda, Bulgaria, China, Cuba, Cyprus, Estonia, France and its territories, Hong Kong, Iran, Iraq, Israel, Italy, Australia, Kahnawake, Libya, Macau, Netherlands Antilles, Republic of Serbia, Sudan, Syria, The Philippines, Turkey, and/or The United States of America and its territories; Section 3.5 In order to be eligible a player must setup a real money account, which includes his full contact details, so that we can pay any winnings to this real money account. Section 4.4 Before making a deposit and to avoid unnecessary delays in processing your payouts make sure all information (Name, Date of Birth etc.) including your address is correct and that it matches your bank records. In the case wherein we are/were unable to verify your account information and validate the same you may be required to submit additional documentation for account verification that may include the following (but restricted to):
i. A photocopy of your picture ID (e.g. Driver’s License, Passport)
ii. Photocopies (front and back) of your credit cards
iii. A credit card statement or utility bill
iv. A credit card verification form
v. Imprint of your credit card Section 12.4 Your (Players) Responsibilities You shall provide us with all information requested by us and necessary for the operation of the Player Account, including, but not limited to, proof of identity, notarized documentation, proof of address, utility bills, bank details, bank statements and bank references. You shall provide us with any such requested documents immediately upon request and not later than within a reasonable time of response. Here's where you list the countries that are not allowed to play: YOUR WARRANTIES AND REPRESENTATIONS
You warrant and represent that:
you are not a resident of Afghanistan, Antigua and Barbuda, Bulgaria, China, Cuba, Cyprus, Estonia, France and its territories, Hong Kong, Iran, Iraq, Israel, Italy, Australia, Kahnawake, Libya, Macau, Netherlands Antilles, Republic of Serbia, Sudan, Syria, The Philippines, Turkey, and/or The United States of America and its territories; Here's where you say you will close accounts if player is from USA (or other countries) Section 20 Legality of Participation in Games ...Residents of USA ,Italy, Australia and Singapore are not permitted to play using the software, accounts of residents of these countries will be closed and any balance void. Here's my favorite, where you say anyone banned from any online casino ever is not allowed: You have not previously held a Player Account which was suspended or terminated either by us or by any other online gaming operator, charged back any monies via a Player Account or maintains a current Player Account; and Please send bug bounty to: 1772S37GYafXgZsNXN87GZD171vV82ecsD or maybe just a thank you? Thank you. Holy moly. Whats more bad, terms, or fortunejack attitude? |
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I think it's ethical from the gambling site POV, if you really don't feel like they are providing a good service and you lie, then you are the one who should hold responsible. The problem with these kind of offers is when they demand only a positive review upfront, not any kind of feedback. If that was the case I could agree that could be a little unethical.
I think there are certain conditions for this to be ethical. If the gambling makes offer public so people are aware and they only ask for a honest review (not a good or bad one). Then even if player is unhappy and leaves bad review, they should still get reward offered. I think it's ethical from the gambling site POV, if you really don't feel like they are providing a good service and you lie, then you are the one who should hold responsible. The problem with these kind of offers is when they demand only a positive review upfront, not any kind of feedback. If that was the case I could agree that could be a little unethical.
I disagree if they ask user to make good review. Paying someone to do something unethical is not ethical. In this example casino not only said "good review" they asked to see it first so they could approve what should be someones opinion first. I will give you a daily ticket, but you must write a review about Betcoin and tell people why you enjoy playing at Betcoin in Spanish. This review will then be posted on a forum. Please do it here in this ticket first. |
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What about the freerolls? Killem or keepem? Hell, you guys were entitled to something free and could of made bankroll without even having to face a loss. If you want them gone or reduced to the bare minimum ~ then give them what they want FJ.. You will be saving in the process and if people complain in the future about it you can redirect them to these guys .. Problem solved
Kill the idiotic 20 chips every hour (and anyone who thinks theres value in them) Take the .5 bitcoin and runu a daily 50 chip buyin tournament with .5 added run a freeroll 2 hours before, winner gets ticket to 50 chipper. spam swc and betcoin chat |
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Pretty shitty thing for any business to do.
To openly admit it and call it "common sense" and "generous" is special kind of evil.
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I think this must be justbtc time for menstruation. This was his final post before going back to the hole he came from almost exactly one month ago... But here's the thing: I USE A VPN ALWAYS AND EVERY TIME I'M ON THE INTERNET FOR SECURITY AND PRIVACY. It's a well known, popular VPN, and I simply connect to the server with the lowest ping. So obviously someone else could be using TigerVPN and betting with BitCasino.
I don't take being stolen from lightly -- so I'm going to keep posting about this in BitCasino's thread until they decide to pay me.
(nice job bro) Don't worry everyone, hes almost finished...(for 28 days at least) |
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SWC went down due to potential fraud and general mismanagement...
Coolstory Enjoy your free betcoin chips. |
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I'm defending xiao. How dumb do you have to be to not see that. We are all sorry you guys are broke and need to beg for scraps but continuing to attack someone who is responsible for tens of thousands in rb that players have gotten wouldn't have otherwise gotten is really selfish and childish. Xiao is not Betcoin. Xiao has benefitted the players. Those two things are undeniable. As a result continuing to attack Xiao for what you dont like about Betcoin is just plain wrong. There is a betcoin thread for that. There is a reason every thread here, on twoplustwo, on betcoin by fellow players and on every other forum has resulted in your group of busto crybabies being called mentally ill. Because it is obvious you are. No rational person does what you guys are doing. It will accomlish nothing but waste time and unfairly hard the reputation of someone who doesn't deserve it (Xiao).
How dumb do you have to be to defend a site that has its players emails hacked and doesn't even acknowledge it because I am sure not able to plug the bug. Its customer service reps use profanity. They charge rake on whims with different rake being charged for different players. Big lol Xiao is even dumber then you as he doesn't realize that wpn doesn't own betcoin . Dumb leading the dumb. A recipie that will bear ripe fruit to be sure. The unscrupulous scumbaggery is real. |
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Hmmmm.....Noobtc posts this comment here on bitcointalk.org within 10 minutes of ftwbtc posting his comment on Betcoin....HMMMMM In retrospect, don't slow play those Kings! __ACTl0NNNN is lucky SillySausage didn't have more on the table!
 HMMMMMMM hmmmmmm Betcoin Jessica talking to himself: I just signed up at Betcoin and then saw this thread. After reading through it and the attacks to the poster. Are you an employee of Betcoin? How do I get reassigned to you?
I don't believe you can change your affiliate once you have one or get reassigned. There is a lot of trolling going on in here so who knows when Xiaoxiao will be back.  |
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