RonPaulCoin, a penny or less each and only 2,100,000 coins total with less than half currently in circulation
Thank you very much! Let me put it into our new list. Please tell me what price do you feel would be the right one for this coin and why. |
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Blocknet
Antshares
Lisk
Thank you very much! Let me put them into our new list. Please tell me what price do you feel would be the right one for this coins and why. |
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Guys please note that I've changed the rules of this thread, the new rules are following:
Please name your undervalued coin, state the price it should have from your point of view and explain why do you think it should have that price, for instance comparing the coin with its competitors or underlining its positive features.
Based on your reasoning we'll input you coin into our new list here, which will be ordered by spread between the target price and the market price (the bigger the spread the more undervalued the altcoin will considered here).
If you don't agree with the target price that someone else has indicated or want to point out any downside of the coin which is already on the list please add your post to this thread and we will adjust our list accordingly.
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With few exceptions, why would anyone invest in altcoins that can only be traded with Bitcoin? That is to say like Golem can also be traded with Ethereum for example, or litecoin which can be traded with Monero and the USD. It's no secret spikes in Bitcoin are tired almost perfectly inversely proportional to to Altcoins.
Just remeber for markets to work, for everyone who's getting wealthy, there also has to be someone going broke. Right now you wake up to see seemingly ever market is green with a few exceptions of shitty volume altcoins. ZCash, Dash, Ethereum, Bitcoin, and litecoin have all seen insane spikes in price over the last few weeks. I realize there are more people entering the market, but not that money. Something isn't adding up. It wouldn't surprise me to find out whales are also running the exchanges. It also wouldn't surprise me to find out some of the exchanges are completely insolvent, that it is to say, they're trading more in cryptocurrency than there is in money to back it up.
I know most people are like shut up don't talk shit about cryptocurrency. Remember this all still incredibly new and 100% completely unregulated. Most of you probably have cryptocurrency on a wallet just refusing to sell it because you just know the value will increase. Will it, will it really? I truly hope you're right, but it's all still, your entire wealth is just 1 and 0s. The only reason it has any value is because we believe it has value. If anything ever happens to shake our confidence, like an exchange becoming insolvent, the value could decrease to $0 overnight. Be safe, take some profits on the way up and put it towards gold and silver. Avoid trading too much in altcoins.
Thank you for your wise warning. It's very important to remember never to invest here more than one can afford to loose. Having said that I think that the value of BTC as well as any altcoin's is based not only on pure believe in its value. Remember that to produce one coin you need to invest money and time. Money because of the electricity and mining equipment costs, time because you need to learn how to mine, how to cool your equipment and so on. That's why the price of any coin if its being run seriously will never go down to 0, the miner will just stop mining or selling what they have mined. Only in case of a catastrophic event, something you can see in the Hollywood films or read in sci-fi books, the cryptocurrency can become obsolete, but even in that case the price will not go to 0. The trading may basically stop because the infrastructures may be destroyed, and still maybe the people who have the cryptocurrency will be more lucky that those who have the fiat, for instance think about PPC, which seems to be created with a catastrophic scenario in mind. Another possibility for the cryptoworld being destroyed is the active attack from the governments, but here we are not seeing any sign of movement in that direction. Think about Ethernish blockchain adopted by Russian and Chinese banks, while the Russian and Chinese government officially declare that they are not that happy with the cryptocurrencies. Think about USA senate that has once approved the use of BTCs or about EU commission that has officially declared BTC and any cryptocurrency a mean of payment. It's still possible that a group of hackers creates a supercomputer to destroy the BTC blockchain? But why? Maybe once they have a supercomputer they could mine with it and make a lot of profits instead of destroying the blockchain without any benefit for them? Maybe some critical issue with BTCs might be discovered. In that case we have hundreds of altcoins some of which are based on other schemes so maybe some of them will survive, or the BTCs issue may be patched quickly. And in any case the BTC structure has almost 10 years which is comparable to the existence time of internet. And I guess that nobody is seriously concerned about the possible internet collapse. And of course if some of exchanges fail it's not a big issue for the whole cryptocurrency system. Think about MT-Gox, that was managing 80% of al BTC at some point and after its failure the cryptoworld seems to go on as before. |
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Thank you for your precious contribution, I put the coins you mentioned in the position it seems to me that they should be (the first ones are more undervalued and the last ones are less undervalued or more risky).
I'd like to ask you something about WBB. It seems to me that their coin is too much controlled by them. What do you think?
And another question about NEM. There is a lot of people that states that it's undervalued, but they are not arguing their position. I don't believe to much into NEM, maybe someone can explain me better that coin?
You are welcome! What do you mean by the their coin is too much controlled by them btw? WBB is fair launch, no pre-mine, no ICO, and Self funding. They are investing into coin that is a kind of ltc, right? And they think they will help animals using this coin, but how? How they are going to make profit? What is block-less wallet, is it sure? Or it's something controlled by them? Another doubt about them "controlling" their coin: they have an official mining pool, that they practically own and the solo mining and the other pools are not receiving any work requests. |
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Thank you for your info. The ANN was not enough clear for me. So it's basically a clone of DASH, or I'm missing some important feature? |
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Most undervalued:
LTC, ETC, DCR
Most overvalued scamcoins:
ETH, DSH
Don't really see why LTC costs 1000 times more than TRC or 2000 times more than DOGE and FTC, the code is the same. The difference stays only in promotion, or not? |
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Decred : Amazing team. I believed DCR will surpass dash price somewhere this year.
Nexus : Have a look into it, you wont be dissapointed. Dont forget to check their newsletter aswell.
WBB : This one is very undervalued and under radar IMO, they are working on the background, better join the slack to know more info about it.
Stratis : Stratis have tons of potential, top 5 is very much possible in my opinion.
Darcrus : Sigwo is amazing, Have a look into their newsletter aswell.
Mercury : Mercury and Darcrus will go together.
Blitz : Will become stratis side chain, IMO the only reason for its to be so cheap is because the lack of communication from the team.
Safex / SEC : Join their slack to get the latest info about it, you wont be dissapointed.
Expanse: Lots of things happening with them, go have a look their newsletter, you wont be dissapointed.
IOC : Its really surprising for this one to be delisted from polo really, their team is amazing.
POSW : If they deliver all the plans from their roadmap, it have a lot more potential in my opinion.
Zclassic : because there will be snapshot of zen on 23rd May so i think it will go up when the date is near
Wyvern : Tiny cap at the moment might be worthed to have a look, the team is legit IMO.
Argentum : Tiny cap, been in crypto for long time and i know that the team is legit and working on the background, join the slack to discuss and get involved with the development.
These is some that i have and in my opinion is safe to hold for long term.
Some i dont have but i think its undervalued:
Bitbay
NEM
ETC
Zcash
Ubiq : the one in bittrex with ticker 'UBQ' not the one from yobit.
Wings
Skycoin
Radium
Viacoin
Shift
Cloakcoin
Gambit
Groestlcoin
Bitmark : If only the deposit problem on polo is fixed i would def pick some of it
Janus
Okcash
Sequence
COVAL
VRM
These coins is the one that i did look into, some i really dig into and some i just read a little bit.
There are def some other that are undervalued also..
Thank you for your precious contribution, I put the coins you mentioned in the position it seems to me that they should be (the first ones are more undervalued and the last ones are less undervalued or more risky). I'd like to ask you something about WBB. It seems to me that their coin is too much controlled by them. What do you think? And another question about NEM. There is a lot of people that states that it's undervalued, but they are not arguing their position. I don't believe to much into NEM, maybe someone can explain me better that coin? |
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Edgeless(EDG) tokens is one of the most undervalued tokens and so is Ethbits. Both projects have an active team behind it and also a very supportive community. The aforementioned factors will enable the prices of those token to soar in the very near future. In late Q2 or early Q3, EDG is going to launch the 0% house edge blackjack. This would mean that the price of EDG tokens are gonna skyrocket. As for ETHbits, they will launch the platform straight after the ICO ends.
Sorry I'm not getting the ETHbits situation are they traded somewhere? |
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7 PACCOIN
8 TITCOIN
9 BOND
I wouldn't consider BOND as it's not traded. |
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Dude, this comes up as a topic very often. My opinion is that even if there were coins that are "undervalued", there's no one who's in any position to identify them as such. These shitcoins aren't businesses that can have a value put on them, like Warren Buffett does. No cash flow, no dividends, and there's really no way to put a price on ANY of them. So all you're going to get here is a bunch of people hyping their pet coins.
Probably you are right, but maybe someone can explain his position using technical and commercial comparisons. For instance LTC and BTC are practically the same code, there were promoted in a very similar way, but still the price of LTC is nothing compared to BTC. I'm don't want to speak about LTC and BTC here, I picked them just as an example. But maybe there are other pairs that can be compared to see that one coin is more undervalued than another. OK I get that, and this is all I'm going to say on the matter. We're talking a market of an extremely ethereal asset that has no backing with precious metals, banks, nothing. The market drives the pricing of these thing, which is supply and demand. That's it. You can't analyze crypto coins like you can analyze a stock, bond, a precious metal, or anything like that. So there's no way anyone can say something like "the price of litecoin SHOULD be higher". The market tells you what the price should be, and no one can predict what these prices should be. It doesn't matter what the code is or how similar one coin is to another. That's my take on it, anyway. I'd be happy to hear arguments to the contrary, but I've yet to read convincing ones. Thank you very much for your contribution I think that we will read some convincing argument here. What I'm personally seeing that some of coins are very much overvalued because of promotion and the others are undervalued because of ignorance (I personally was ignoring DASH before it was too late :-) ). On the other hand the quantity of altcoins is such that it's not possible to follow what is happening to them all. That's why I invite everybody to contribute to this topic, so your thoughts might be precious for the investors and developers. |
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Dude, this comes up as a topic very often. My opinion is that even if there were coins that are "undervalued", there's no one who's in any position to identify them as such. These shitcoins aren't businesses that can have a value put on them, like Warren Buffett does. No cash flow, no dividends, and there's really no way to put a price on ANY of them. So all you're going to get here is a bunch of people hyping their pet coins.
Probably you are right, but maybe someone can explain his position using technical and commercial comparisons. For instance LTC and BTC are practically the same code, there were promoted in a very similar way, but still the price of LTC is nothing compared to BTC. I'm don't want to speak about LTC and BTC here, I picked them just as an example. But maybe there are other pairs that can be compared to see that one coin is more undervalued than another. |
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Please name your undervalued coin, state the price it should have from your point of view and explain why do you think it should have that price, for instance comparing the coin with its competitors or underlining its positive features. Based on your reasoning I'll input your coin into the list here, which will be ordered by ratio between the target price and the market price (the bigger the ratio the more undervalued the altcoin will be considered here). If you don't agree with the target price that someone else has indicated or want to point out any downside of the coin which is already on the list please add your post to this thread and I'll adjust the list accordingly. | altcoin name | target price | target/current price | reasons | critics | price hypothesis by | | Slimcoin (SLM) | 1$ | 173.37 | first coin with revolutionary Proof of Burn algorithm, have a stable wallet now, available supply is ~10 million actually(d5000) | low volumes, traded only on Novaexchange(johnwhitestar) | d5000 | | Pascal Lite (PASL) | 5.45$ | 34.01 | | | gunmaster217 | | Terracoin (TRC) | 1$ | 28.85 | just hired a developer to add all Terracoin specs to DASH code, to have masternodes cost 10,000 Terracoin the first month then go down 1,000 Terracoin per two months until it gets to 1,000 Terracoin, to code Windows, OSX, and Linux Wallet, to include all of DASH's features (Decentralized governance, masternodes, instant sent, private send); the price is much lower than that of LTC (should be at least 10% of the current price of Litecoin), reward halving happening for Terracoin in about 60 days (clockuniverse) | | clockuniverse | | PepeCash (PepeCash) | 0.45$ | 23.22 | | | gunmaster217 | | XtraBYtes (XBY) | 0.2$ | 10.75 | very new coin, NO ICO, No Mining, NO POS, NO premine, completely new consensus system using static nodes that can't be hacked as they are offline, and uses Cord system unique to Crypto, the technology just as great as IOTA and its less than 2million market cap (realistic1); has the potential to completely change how the blockchain is run, 100% impossible to hack, no mining or POS, in time people might be using this coins technology as the base for many other coins, potential coin to rule all other coins(kubricktrader); the new consensus algorithm Proof of Signature, this allows to eliminate both POW and POS to run its blockchain and is the basis to the 100% rebuild and the breakaway from being a Bitcoin clone, STaTiC Nodes are what the Xtrabytes system physically runs on and the mosaic is related to what these nodes so within the system: Services, Transactions, and Trusted in Control Nodes (fishfishfish313) | Don't catch the XtRaByTeS flu virus they're trying to spread around to cause another massive dump because there is no buying volume. It's a project that is all experimental but they act like it's the greatest thing on Earth (AmarO) | realistic1 | | WavesGo (WGO) | 1$ | 9.59 | very young, total supply is small to medium, currently be found on Tidex, and Waves Decentralized Exchange, will soon be in a few exchanges(bobitza202) | | bobitza202 | | Aeon (AEON) | 5.5$ | 7.53 | is a Monero Fork with small improvements: Fast Syncing, Blockchain Pruning, Optional Lightweight Transfers (payments anonymous by default, but also non-anonymous transfers are allowed, lightweight PoW (CryptoNote-Lite) allows for faster verification of the blockchain, 1 MB scratchpad allows AEON to run efficiently on mobile devices alongside regular laptops and desktops, Same maximum supply of 18.4 million coins as XMR, seems to be something like Lite-Monero, development and community looks quite active (bobitza202) | | bobitza202 | | SmartCoin (SMC) | 0.1$ | 6.84 | | | Mjbmonetarymetals | | Stratis (STRAT) | 50$ | 6.83 | | | nayanmehta | | Prototanium (PR) | 2$ | 6.42 | Based entirely on the 0.10.x branch of Unobtanium but supports synching and using the testnet chain of Unobtanium instead of its own blockchain! So it is an exact copy of Unobtanium in terms of mining rewards and technology. And it also shares the Unobtanium testnet blockchain, very rare (250k total supply just like UNO) (bobitza202) | | bobitza202 | | Vcash (XVC) | 3.13$ | 5.46 | new team of developers, zero time transactions (instant transactions), Blended transactions (good level of anonymity),most coins have already been mined, has 3 layers of security (masternodes, pow and pos), is listed on Poloniex and Bittrex, the moment Polo enables the wallet the price might increase as people will be able to withdraw their coins from the exchange and run more masternodes, new Electrum Gui wallet about to be released, some very good news about to come, it's possible to buy and withdraw the coins at Bittrex as they have the wallet enabled on their exchange (yelllowsin) | | yelllowsin | | ArtByte (ABY) | 1500 Sat. | 3.74 | community coin focused on building a base of real users, not speculators, ArtByte serves a much bigger market than Gulden(First.Bitcoins) | | First.Bitcoins | | Golos (GOLOS) | 0.41$ | 3.45 | should be about 20-25% the price of Steem(gentil) | | gentil | | Minereum (MNE) | 20$ | 2.63 | The first self-mining smart contract. Had no ICO, no premine, no bounties. It's also an ERC20 (Ethereum) token.Will be used to produce new tokens with ease. Has very low supply, is new and will eventually hit new exchanges (Shanto) | | Shanto | | FlorinCoin (FLO) | 0.21$ | 1.90 | | | ppc.pt | | Blackcoin (BLK) | 1$ | 2.02 | the most innovative PoS coin(jason943) | | jason943 |
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Here we are: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1869948There was some text in form of images so I opted to translate the texts and to sacrifice the images for the moment. Please let me know whether it's ok. An Italian ANN would be awesome, but also just having the website in Italian would be great too.
no doubts, we need you )! Would be really cool to have Italian thread)!
Italian board is 4th most active here om BCT (1st: Russian, 2nd: Chinese, 3rd: German and 5th: Spanish/Turkish).
Fine just send me the texts to translate or give me the instructions about how the ANN should be written. Awesome. Thanks man! The ANN can just be the OP here translated into Italian. If you quote the OP you can just copy and paste it into a new post and change the text to Italian. We aren't to the point yet to translate the new website. When we do we will probably either have an Excel file that can be imported or a user on the website that can edit languages. |
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Terracoin è una delle criptovalute più longevi. E' stata creata nel 2012, quando esistevano poche altre criptovalute oltre a bitcoin, ed è stata per un certo periodo la quinta criptovaluta più importante, sulla base della capitalizzazione. Successivamente il programmatore che l'ha creato si è sempre più disinteressato e di conseguenza TRC ha perso molto terreno nel mondo delle criptovalute. Fortunatamente qualche anno fa un gruppo di entusiasti guidati da Clockuniverse ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=474411) ha fatto rinascere TRC. Oggi TRC è una cryptovaluta al passo con i tempi, vanta il meccanismo DarkGravityWave (che impedisce l'aumento smisurato del hashrate e successivo abbandono da parte dei minatori), una forte comunità intenta ad aiutare il mondo e sopratutto il meccanismo dei masternode/Governo Decentralizzato già implementato con molto successo dalla DASH. Tuttavia, il valore di TRC è tante volte più basso di DASH, pur avendo la blockchain molto più antica, il ché permette, a chi lo desidera, diventare proprietari di un masternode con una spesa decisamente più bassa rispetto al DASH. Il topic ufficiale in inglese del TRC è qui: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1364146.0, ma la comunicazione più importante avviene direttamente sul sito terracoin.io, nella sezione matermost: http://mattermost.terracoin.io/, l'iscrizione al sito è gratuita e aperta a tutti. Se sei incuriosito da questa valuta e pensi di poterne diventare la voce ufficiale italiana sei invitato a venire e conoscere tutto quello che ti interessa chiedendo le cose direttamente ai membri della comunità. Naturalmente devi avere una buona proprietà della lingua inglese, in quanto la comunicazione sul topic ufficiale e sul sito avviene sopratutto in inglese. |
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An Italian ANN would be awesome, but also just having the website in Italian would be great too.
no doubts, we need you )! Would be really cool to have Italian thread)!
Italian board is 4th most active here om BCT (1st: Russian, 2nd: Chinese, 3rd: German and 5th: Spanish/Turkish).
Fine just send me the texts to translate for the site and give me the instructions about how the ANN should be written. |
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I can help with Italian if you need me to.
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I really think we should establish the development fund and promise that bounty for upcoming skilled developers (not just a modest donation jar). I'm dev myself (but I have incompatible programming language preferences (java-scala)) and I can tell you that I will never really care about any crypto if I haven't my share in it. It's easier to code from scratch rather than revive the dead. If we are able to collect significant part of TRC to the development fund we might find someone interested.
And I guess its time to set up slack.
I think that not only we have to pay well our developers but we have to overpay them. The strategy might be those of Telegram service. They offers prizes for the best chunk of the program each time and dozens of programmers try to create most elegant, light, sure and basically the best code for them. The prize is much more than the money the developer can get for the same work usually, but the code the Telegram owners receive is the best one each time. |
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3. make it a simple and clear design, current one is really complicated and people don't know what is it......keep it in mind, the simplest , the best, this is apple's experiences
I agree that TRC logo design should be changed as soon as possible. |
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Good news! That weird coin named TERRA (not Terracoin) is getting de-listed on C-Cex. Now people won't get confused and come here looking for help with it!
That's fine. There is another Teracoin there that would be better for us to have delisted :-) |
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