楼主帖子不错，看了之后才去投了JD和CoinLenders。
JD入的时候碰上赌王将Profit从+6000杀到-5000，经历整个过程，害我损失不少，还好赌回来一些。
CoinLenders上买了一份CD，有次在JD赌钱被套住，就发信给TF请求取消我购买的CD，TF反映神速，几乎立刻就将款打到了帐上。
TF人很不错，在此顺便感谢。
现在绝大多数资金都在CoinLenders，JD上放了几个币，一边赌，一边投资，纯属玩闹性质。
JD上赌钱的中国哥们很多，想提醒大家一定注意控制风险，能不赌就不赌。
实际上在JD坐庄，风险也很大，通过这次赌王砸场事件，就能看出，其实也是在赌。
所以，我觉得自制力不够的人，甚至也别去JD坐庄，因为会被勾引，指不定哪天就下水。
我一开始就是一点不赌，只坐庄，后来Profit急剧下降，忍不住赌了两把，后来就经常赌。有次一把几乎输光200个币。
昨天还有个哥们，中国人，一次输光大概900个币，虽然是以前赢得，但是很折磨人。
要坐莊也可以支持一下中國版的複製JD。下注流量差不多，但是盤子小，賺的比較多。賭錢還送股票，都營運了一段時間我60B有25B是在BTC-DICE.com .而頂樓也有70B在BD |
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I prefer havelock for now, they look nice and user friendy
Bitfunder however got a full system of claiming asset, more stocks plus option. So please find someone make Bitfunder a better interface with some magical API/// oh wait..... they dont have it....
BTW, the fee is too damn high for Bitfunder
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I dont mean those follow the crowd vote, what I mean is the collect the option data from your customer vote that Namjies and deal with different guys in different ways.
like address 1 vote Yes for redeem and he got 300 shares and address 2 vote No for transfer so that he can have exact value to know to liquidate.
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Nice, we can trade it publicily again. I assume it will process both asset migrating and liquidating at 10/7 from the announcement. It would be a good solution if a vote is taken to measure the user option on the above choices just to keep things butter smooth. Thanks  |
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I still have 573 BTC-BONDs but now trading is frozen and I can't internally transfer to the issuer to get my money back.
What am I supposed to do?
You can wait for Namworld to get back this week and see what will he do on moving exchange or claiming asset. Or you can do private asset transfer between people if you are going to liquidate your asset in urgent. EDIT I wonder how you manage other people money with this level of knowledge and attention on your own asset |
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我也很抱歉无法用英文向你索要原文，所以我只能猜测你说的意思是：1，我们持有不少的ASICMINER股票，并遭受损失，但这不是我们拥有的唯一资产，我们还有其它资产。我们的资产仍然是正的，如果它进入这样的状态，负债高于账面价值（资不抵债），我们就会公布，而不是试图去恢复为正。2，没有危险的投资，投资是关于对冲风险。
1，Coinlenders存款的去向不够透明，无法计算出是否资不抵债（特别是在你的主要投资ASICMINER大幅下跌的情况下），作为存款人只能猜测。如果我是Coinlenders的存款人，在不能确定你的偿还能力的情况下，我想最好的办法就是先取款，待情况明朗后再决定是否重新存款。
2，It's just words.一个月时间BTCINVEST的NAV/share从0.33下降到0.23，跌幅43%，对冲风险？或者你能否更进一步解释这句话的意思。
不管如何，我知道你非常努力的工作，在社区非常的活跃，从你这次能到中文区回复帖子就能看出来。我经常能看到你的帖子，并从中得到了一些帮助，在此非常感谢！
An English translation for the above post: I am sorry for not being able to request the original message in English, therefore here is my guess of your word 1: We hold plenty of ASICMINER shares and suffered amount of loss, while this is not our only asset. Our asset is still in profit. And if one day the debt of CoinLenders is higher than the book value, we will announce it but not work the way back up closed door 2:There arent investment that is without risk, it is just about how we hedge them. My reply: 1: Since CL's deposit is in low transparency, we are unable to calculate whether assets are over loans (aka Insolvency), esp in situations that ASICMINER falls drastically, as a debtor what we can do is just plain guessing. If I were a debtor of CL, at circumstance of inability to confirm the repay risk, the way I would do is to withdrawl first and reinvest until the situation is clear. 2: It's just word. In a months' time, BTCINVEST's NAV have dropped from 0.33 to 0.23, a 43% in decline. About the risk hedging part, would you be able to further explain the meaining of this sentence? (Would be better if replied with English) Nevertheless, I know your effort paid in projects and being very active in this community. I always see your post and I have gained some helped from you through those, hereby show my sincere appreciation. |
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Seems you guy are missing all those weekly reply of "I am not running away yet"
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不敢苟同，小心发行人跑路的情况，在glbse关闭的时候，最稳定的股票gigamining后来没有履行合同，导致客户亏损。
像bitbond之流，发行人直接消失。
好像只有asicminer-pt的信誉最好，也是股票能够回升的
BTC-BOND 主人外游，我成功聯絡了他了 GLBSE的GIGAMINING原本都以為他是蠻能信任的，知道我那兩股的GIGA不能拿回.... 又要簽文件有啥.... |
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No comment on other accusations?
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This is not unethical.
Like the man said if they pay their fees they can do what ever transactions they like.
Personally I think it is smart and the OP is a hater.
It is just you not using BitcoinQT, think in other people's shoes. TF has been a good watchout for potential harm to Bitcoin. And this is certainly one (not to mention ripple here, offtopic). Not only dealing with this particular company with chain-spamming (and competitor site DDosing, incl SatoshiDice, Satoshi Circle, PrimeDice, inputs.io, peerbet and just-dice). The Bitcoin itself have to think of how to deal with these kind of thing in future when Bitcoin is more popular with more transation (and assholes who do things for their own sake without thinking about other's) If this is ethical. These above should happen to you and you will know what is ethical. Having everyone hard drive filled with shit data and taking out others service is surely ethical. EDIT: If TF is a hater, he would either have a stong conflict of interest (for example he owns a casino), have shown good history of pissing on others' post without solid claim. Only facts matter, and TF is surely opening a post with matter but not pointing fingers like a hater saying something is a crap. |
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btct关闭影响到dms，会影响到coinlender吗？
CL是獨立網站由TF營運而TF支付利息的主要來源是投資跟借錢出去。以TF的投資經驗BTCT關門對TF或CL影響不大 |
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So when Coca-Cola advertisements make it seem like the whole world drinks Coke they must be unethical. Got ya.
If coke do advert it is fine. But when coke deliver a box of it to every household door step where they didnt order it they have to move it away or whatever. It is about the ethics of advert. It is acceptable you step on your other competitors. But when you add poision in other soft drink factory sugar source. And how you advertise it is widely causing negative impact on others. This is the issue. Hope this is not to vague for you to read Correct Horse Battery Staple http://blockchain.info/address/1JwSSubhmg6iPtRjtyqhUYYH7bZg3Lfy1T |
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Thats like 2 days ago in Hong kong, thanks for "your" arrive. No wonder familiar name. EDIT: Skyped him
EDIT 2: Would someone mind calling him (the whois phone no.). I am at hong kong and this would be very expensive
EDIT3: Done VOIP, not on phone, popped to msg box.Edit 4 http://gyazo.com/798f30a2e5ec43997b5df33f19c8f450He is alive |
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DIVIDEND, TO THE MOON
EDIT： As always, a sarcasm of AMAZING COMPANY
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For the worst option you can get, why not cryptostocks! it is since GLBSE and still not collapsed!
done trolling with sarcasm
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I wanted to post a reply here since we have not seen Namworld in a few days. We're very surprised that he's been missing, considering he's a very prolific investor on BTCT and throughout the Bitcoin community.
BitVPS is very disappointed in the BTCT changes. Our share price has tanked due to this news, and there have been no fundamental changes in our financial situation. We are doing better today than any time in the history of BTCVPS/BitVPS. We actually own most of our own equipment now and have been very busy internally investing in infrastructure upgrades including the procurement of redundant switch gear, more servers, better I/O systems, more disks and memory, etc.
Our dividends dropped this past month but only because we've been re-investing into our infrastructure. Thing is, we were PAYING dividends which is great for us. We've got profits to distribute!
We hope to find a way out of this situation soon but we're still evaluating our options at the moment. It looks like Havelock is our best bet so far but we've not committed to anything yet.
We hope to be in touch with Namworld soon so we can get his take on the situation.
Thanks for the inquiry,
-phungus
Glad to have Co-own replied to us. Despite i am not a holder of VPS, but I'd like to know do you have contact of Namjies, call him back and tell him to deal with all the mess caused by the close down, both on VPS and the BTCBOND side. AFAIK someone is making sell orders at 50% FV and selling down some shares to 30% FV (for a period yesterday, now is ~85%FV priced). Would like to see if you can have some method to call him back and at least post a comment or two on where to go. PS: Bitfunder sucks+1 |
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Ps. Think about gigabytes of desktop hard disk space across the world have been wasted just by your irresponsible action to start this unethical business.
This is a pretty strong argument for this practice being unethical. I think a lot of businesses will simulate extra business, like a real Casino playing ambient noise of coins being spewed out or even Starbucks grinding coffee in their stores in the morning to "seed" the smell of fresh coffee, but those are usually at their own cost. This actually uses network and hard disk capacity across the public network, negatively impacting the community. So @betcoin: STAHP it! I can send a bunch of transactions to myself. Would I be hated in the same way if I did that? What if I was using a mixing service (i.e inputs.io), where 1 transaction could be multiplied into 5, 10, or more? correct horse battery staple (whatever it's order, you know that shit) |
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Nice, new error code. He is working on it.
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He's likely sleeping. I checked his domains whois and he lives in the part of the world where it's 4am. He worked on Blockchain.info I doubt he's going to take anyones money! Someone needs to contact his server administrator and have this fixed if he's not around
He is assuie. I am Chinese, It is 3am now. If your house on fire will you be awake at 4am??? |
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Prove a DDOS. The site never went out. This is back end
Edit: Migration is no excuse either. If anything we should have been more informed. That alone makes me lose faith
It is still better for him to deal with the DDOSing issue now then in future where more people could be impact. Bear with it guys. I do mean it. Bear. Bear with it. (Shitty jokes)  |
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