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401  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon Batch #3 & More on: July 12, 2013, 12:47:35 AM
batch 1 was DIRT CHEAP.
batch 2 cost less

Both 1 & 2 were ~$1500 USD at the time of purchase when you include shipping costs.

Both B2 and B3 cost about 75BTC, so if you were paying with BTC already mined the reality is B2 people get screwed the most by the delayed "promised vs actual" timeline.

Its fun to pick & choose which numbers to compare, because the wild fluctuations in BTC/USD price throw off the comparisons but the reality is someone who purchased a B3 is getting their unit with much less overall delay than B2.


Quote from: koob
Difference is batch#3 prica was calculated on Btc ROI, not like#1 and #2 USD.

Who actually bought that line?  I think we all know Avalon decided to finally take some profits on B3 and this was as good as logic as any to keep the BTC price mostly fixed between B2 and B3.
402  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon Batch #3 & More on: July 11, 2013, 10:55:16 PM
All you guys whining "partial refund" ... How long did BATCH 1 & 2 Customers wait?  Batch #2 was supposed to be APRIL!  The last units just went out the door.

I got shipping info on my Batch #2, I am more than happy.  I had guessed it might be MAY, worst case JUNE, now its JULY.  So 3 months late, but still happy.

Avalon really did just take ~3 weeks to produce/ship basically all of B#2 once the new line was up.   Batch #3 will definitely be much more "on time" comparatively speaking, I am very surprised there is even an offer of a refund for the whiners.

Put simply:  Should I be asking Avalon for ~250BTC for "lost profits" of my Batch 2 being multiple months late?  Heck no.  Mining has always been YMMV!
403  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: avalon asic chips - did the first orders ship already? on: May 30, 2013, 11:31:25 PM
You guys are WAY Jumping the gun.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=198584.0;viewResults

Batch 2 is not even halfway yet.  Batch 3 is next.  Chips will start Huh?

As I read on the thread linked, it would be bad business for Avalon to move chips before Batch3 ships, although it could happen.
404  Bitcoin / Hardware / POLL: Will Avalon Batch 3 or raw ASIC Chips ship first? on: May 07, 2013, 11:49:42 PM
Title says it all.  Assuming the current delays hold, which realistically goes out the door first?   Speculation encouraged!
405  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: 490,000 Avalon chips already ordered - 150T/hash spike coming in August on: April 25, 2013, 05:56:29 PM
Good!  FINALLY a speculation thread about this...

MY PREDICTION:

Chips are produced but SHIP 2 MONTHS LATE...  So OCTOBER maybe?    Wink

If Avalon is reading this:

Please consider your previous customers, Batch #2 guys are still waiting!
406  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon batch [2] countdown! on: April 24, 2013, 04:00:46 AM
Waiting for Avalon Batch #2 is like riding in a car where every second you get closer to your destination you have to pee that much more....

Totally sucks while its happening but the relief at the end will be worth it!


-->>> countdown to B#2 continues!
407  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon Batch #2 First Delivery WATCH Thread (or First Tracking Info) on: April 23, 2013, 10:56:29 PM
^^ What worries me...  cedivad is exactly right
408  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon Batch #2 First Delivery (or First Tracking Info) WATCH Thread on: April 23, 2013, 04:33:44 AM

Avalon has always been like this - no tracking, few updates, nothing except delivered units in most Batch 1 cases. BFL has been the complete opposite, tons of posts, updates, no actual product ever delivered. Which would you rather have?

Agreed.  But that's why its a WATCH thread!  As Yifu said it required more faith on Batch 1 & 2, time is still of the essence for us in batch 2 as those of us who had GPUs and made this our transition plan are getting killed in difficulty.  I am just hoping the floodgates open on that new factory remodel or whatever it took and they can get them out the door faster this time!  Go Team Avalon!   Wink
409  Bitcoin / Hardware / Avalon Batch #2 First Delivery WATCH Thread (or First Tracking Info) on: April 22, 2013, 11:44:07 PM
If you have a Batch #2 order and have received your tracking info OR the actual unit, POST HERE!

While I love Avalon for beating BFL, I am starting to wonder how late the first Batch #2's will actually start shipping.   Consider 4/15 was already a month-delayed ship date.  Now we are being told "end of the month", which means we hopefully start seeing reports of tracking info or units arriving soon?

Good Luck All on your orders!  The difficulty-vs-delivery race is in full force!

410  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: 490,000 Avalon chips already ordered - 150T hashrate spike coming in August on: April 22, 2013, 11:25:00 PM
Everything about ASICS has been late so far.  BFL super late, but even AVALON has yet to get ONE batch 2 in the "wild" and it was supposed to ship a month ago.  From when Jeff got his batch 1 it pretty much still took over a month for anyone else to report having one - really took two months to have them out "in force".

While a half million chips may have been ordered, lets hope Avalon is as late with them as they have been with the rest of their stuff!

August?  You really think whoever is buying these chips has enough capacity to get raw chips online and all that quickly?



411  Economy / Speculation / Re: YOU ARE HERE - I got downvoted on Reddit... on: April 18, 2013, 06:44:19 AM
What are you trying to say?

What do you see?

To the newbie investor:  "OMG slow crash down to $30 baseline, my $200/coin investment is screwed, SELL"

For the 2011 seasoned veteran:  "It will go lower for up to a year and a half and then go to ~$3,000/BTC    Wink"
412  Economy / Auctions / Re: [WTS] Samsung mSATA3 32GB SSD Qty6 on: April 18, 2013, 06:37:19 AM
Didn't realize I had wandered into the Auctions forum.  No edit button here eh?

Nevermind the above as it was a joke, I was interested but the starting bid is about 3x going eBay price???
413  Economy / Auctions / Re: [WTS] Samsung mSATA3 32GB SSD Qty6 on: April 18, 2013, 06:27:50 AM
Starts @ $1 and goes up?  Or 1 BTC and goes down???

414  Economy / Speculation / YOU ARE HERE - I got downvoted on Reddit... on: April 18, 2013, 06:20:31 AM


Just sayin...
415  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ASIC price cap on: April 18, 2013, 05:57:25 AM
You forgot the electricity, you need a room full of GPU rigs to match the performance of a single ASIC rig, and your circuit break won't stand it

Bingo.  ONE Avalon is like having TWO-HUNDRED FORTY Radeon 5830s.

That would be about 24KW just for video cards (sans host computers).  Or $57/day in electricity at $0.10/KWH - more like $80/day with host PC requirements.

Honestly NO ONE should be buying GPUs right now.  Do a group buy of raw Avalon chips or something!
416  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Who else from Avalon batch 1 hasn't received a unit or shipping information? on: April 12, 2013, 11:23:35 PM
I not received order 200000846/
Give my devices

Re:Order #200000846 #647
Created on Fri, Apr 12 at 4:00 AM
Being Processed
Order #200000846 #477
Created on Mon, Mar 11 at 9:01 AM
Being Processed
Order #200000846 #470
Created on Mon, Mar 4 at 2:26 AM
Being Processed
Order #200000846 #432
Created on Wed, Feb 20 at 4:09 AM
Being Processed
Order #200000846 #291
Created on Mon, Feb 11 at 2:10 AM
Being Processed
until now the status has not changed. #35

support no reply

Anti I think you are very confused.  THOSE ARE ALL BATCH #2 orders.  They haven't even STARTED shipping BATCH #2.

You got at LEAST a month to wait. 
417  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: avl asic on: April 12, 2013, 05:19:53 PM
Troll.  Anyone who has an Avalon today bought it when BTC was $10-ish.

I got into BTC after the "first" crash that hit $30+ in 2011.

I thought I'd never see past $30 again.  Since then I mined 700+ coins, sold most of them for $5-15.  My last 10% I sunk into Avalons.

My last two coins I sold were:  3/18 - $40 then 4/10 - $232. 

I'm happy!  Currently BTC is 2x what it was a month ago!  This 10x increase BS was a bubble.  But guess what, now I am sure it will return - if I have to wait two years I will!

When I get my Avalons I am holding the coins.  Next time I'll make enough to actually pay off the house!
418  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Poll: I just paid $1,249 for a BFL 25 GH/s Bitcoin Miner order! on: April 05, 2013, 06:57:13 PM
LOL

"I can haz BFL?"

"You gonna so rich!"

419  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon batch 3 mistake, need your advice on: April 03, 2013, 04:01:22 AM
Well Batch #2 has been pushed back to April 15th from the original date of what, March 5th to April 5th?, I'm just stating what I thought was obvious.  BFL is 6 months late I'll let Avalon be 1 month late  Smiley
420  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon batch 3 mistake, need your advice on: April 02, 2013, 11:59:56 PM
I think at this point I wouldn't worry about it until B3 start shipping in June/July.

Avalon has plenty of support tickets for B1 and B2 customers to be dealt with first.
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