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401  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Top Secret Court Order Leaked: Telecos ordered to give NSA ALL phone records on: June 06, 2013, 06:02:32 PM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/interactive/2013/jun/06/verizon-telephone-data-court-order

IT IS HEREBY ORDERED that, the Custodian of Records shall produce to the
National Security Agency (NSA) upon service of this Order, and continue production
on an ongoing daily basis thereafter
for the duration of this Order, unless otherwise
ordered by the Court, an electronic copy of the following tangible things: all call detail
records or "telephony metadata" created by Verizon for communications
(i) between
the United States and abroad; or (ii) wholly within the United States, including local
telephone calls
. This Order does not require Verizon to produce telephony metadata
for communications wholly originating and terminating in foreign countries.
Telephony metadata includes comprehensive communications routing information,.
including but not limited to session identifying information (e.g., originating and
terminating telephone number, International Mobile Subscriber Identity (IMSI) number,
International Mobile station Equipment Identity (IMEI) number, etc.), trunk identifier,
telephone calling card numbers, and time and duration of call.

...

IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that no person shall disclose to any other person that
the FBIor NSA has sought or obtained tangible things under this Order
, other than to:
(a) those persons to whom disclosure is necessary to comply with such Order; (b) an
attorney to obtain legal advice or assistance with respect to the production of things in
response to the Order; or (c) other persons as permitted by the Director of the FBI or the
Director's designee. A person to whom disclosure is made pursuant to (a), (b), or (c)

Wow. It says calls specifically, but I'd be curious if text messages are included, or are part of a separate order.

Wonder what the requests to ISP's and such ask for.
402  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: June 06, 2013, 05:44:19 PM
The delay of confirmation of this week's dividends is caused by the payments of real
dividends are chained after the satoshi transactions, which are now refused by most
of the clients. We will either stop the satoshi payments, or unchain the payment in our
modified scripts.

Does anyone care if this happens? Just send the div's!
403  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [30000 GH] BTC Guild - PPS/PPLNS with TxFees, Stratum+Vardiff ASIC Tested on: June 06, 2013, 03:28:16 PM
can u please make merged stratum ? Smiley it would be really nice!  Grin

Haven't been paying attention much lately huh?

Look at the previous couple pages of this thread.

Not even a couple, just go back one.
404  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL creates new charity project to donate 1000 BTC to [ROFL!] on: June 05, 2013, 09:35:07 PM
Apparently , according to reddit; 50 BTC has gone to Luke-Jr's charity...

You can see that on their site and the block chain. It didn't go to Like Jrs charity, they paid Lukey for modifynig his software so that their miners will work.

Out of charity money?!

I've seen people do that before, he may well be owed money, but he shouldn't be treated as a charity, nor should he let himself be taken advantage of like that, and that is definitely 100% NOT a charity payment!!!

You're fucking right it's not a chairty payment. That's a salary to lukey.

And luke is laughing all the way to the bank. Lukey should pass that "donation" onto a real charity. But, he knows it's payment for his services so he will keep it.
405  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL creates new charity project to donate 1000 BTC to [ROFL!] on: June 05, 2013, 07:09:16 PM
Apparently , according to reddit; 50 BTC has gone to Luke-Jr's charity...

You can see that on their site and the block chain. It didn't go to Like Jrs charity, they paid Lukey for modifynig his software so that their miners will work.
406  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL creates new charity project to donate 1000 BTC to [ROFL!] on: June 05, 2013, 05:52:58 PM
I, personally, like the idea of the 1000BTC donation going to an organization which then doles out smaller donations to the community. But that organization's choices should be independent of the group funding it, and maybe it will be.

By donations to smaller groups, I'm sure you also don't mean, pay their developers a salary through it like they have done so far.

407  Other / Off-topic / Re: Is Ashish Gulhati, et al., Satoshi Nakamoto? on: June 05, 2013, 04:52:06 PM
Since this thread has been up, Ashish posted then deleted a tweet on Twitter pertaining to his connection to Satoshi, and http://hashcash.com/ no longer redirects to http://neomailbox.com/ currently depicting a page with...

Quote
Coming soon...

If you're looking for Adam Back's Hashcash project, it's here...

dun dun dunnnnn
408  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL creates new charity project to donate 1000 BTC to [ROFL!] on: June 05, 2013, 04:50:18 PM
PROVE TO ME THE ADDRESSES THEY CLAIM TO HAVE SENT "DONATIONS" TO ARE NOT THEIRS....OH RIGHT YOU CAN'T.

 YOU FAIL. Cheesy


huh?

I'm not proving anything. All I'm suggesting, is that on their website, they have an address posted, that had 1000 BTC in it, and they have made an announcement, and then sent three 50 btc donations from it. That's what it looks like.

I use donations liberally, because it looks more like two of them are payment for work.

Yes, some other random person could have sent 1000 BTC to an account, and sent out three payments for work to people that happened to perform work for BFL. Yes, that's a possibility, and I'll agree that with BFL's track record, who the fuck knows for sure...
409  Economy / Exchanges / Re: bitfloor issues? on: June 05, 2013, 04:47:38 PM
Bitfloor - The BFL of Bitcoin Exchanges.

I like it. Not completely accurate, but funny enough. Roman doesn't give fake deadlines. He just doesn't care.
410  Economy / Lending / Re: Pawn your forum accounts! BTC Loans using your forum account as collateral! on: June 05, 2013, 04:46:50 PM
Well if your account is reputable enough to scam 10BTC, why would you default on a loan to me for 5BTC.

I don't think I saw you write that before like that. That is the answer I have been asking for. That makes sense. Why scam you for 5 BTC if my account could scam others for 10? So you are saying, you don't need to use the account to scam, because if the account was worth more to a scammer, the scammer would just scam themselves using their own account.

That's simple enough.

Still interesting.
411  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL creates new charity project to donate 1000 BTC to [ROFL!] on: June 05, 2013, 03:52:52 PM
If they're serious they should dump the cash into a trust controlled by people outside BFL. Or they should make sure to give a few BIG chunks of that cash out immediately to worthwhile causes like zerocoin. Charity in my mind was like cancer treatment or hospitals or something...

+1 This.

They should use an escrow to prove they have 1000 BTC to donate and have that escrow donate it on behalf of them publicly so there is no funny business.

John could do it.

Likely BFL doesn't want to do this because it involves an honest 3rd party to keep things transparent.

They did put the 1000 BTC at an address that they have sent the first three 50 BTC donations out from.

I'm too lazy to do too much analysis on where the coins came from, but there is this one https://blockchain.info/address/1KhHvmZXxqGRA821Rsqcs6FF2EwLsddrSX

which has had over 44,000 BTC run through it starting back in October. Which, is coincidentally, the first time they said they were going to start shipping.
412  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL creates new charity project to donate 1000 BTC to [ROFL!] on: June 05, 2013, 02:49:08 PM
rofl, i'm dying here laughing

They donate the 1000 BTC to themselves.

Then they pay their developers and call it charity?

Luke -jr gets $6,000 and they are calling that a fulfillment of their not meeting power specs (by a factor of what again?)

hahaha

Too much.
413  Economy / Lending / Re: Pawn your forum accounts! BTC Loans using your forum account as collateral! on: June 05, 2013, 02:40:20 PM
If I give you my pub key will you PM it to me?

Lol! that was a joke. Its not that secret, but I'm not going to tell anyone else my business plan.

I trust TF because he's a scammer. He scammed moneypaktrader, and like they say, your enemies enemy is your friend,

So, the question is, how are these valuable as collateral, if you are not going to scam against them.

Your answer is, you're not going to scam, it's a secret.

Sounds like a scam again.
414  Economy / Lending / Re: Pawn your forum accounts! BTC Loans using your forum account as collateral! on: June 05, 2013, 02:11:59 PM
Never got the PM, did anyone else?

No super-top-secret-highly-classified-gpg-encrypted-with-the-hash-of-my-fingerprint PM for you. Tongue

If I give you my pub key will you PM it to me?
415  Economy / Lending / Re: Pawn your forum accounts! BTC Loans using your forum account as collateral! on: June 05, 2013, 01:45:27 PM
Never got the PM, did anyone else?
416  Economy / Lending / Re: Pawn your forum accounts! BTC Loans using your forum account as collateral! on: June 04, 2013, 08:53:48 PM
However, what sort of assurances are in place to make sure I get my account back after paying my debt?

Good question. For certain accounts I will allow the borrower to pay a percentage of the loan off, I would then give them back their forum account and they would pay the rest, if they don't pay the rest then the account will get a scammer tag.

If you wouldn't mind, can you please send me a pm to explain a bit more about how having the forum account benefits you? It's just curiosity because this (from my standpoint) doesn't make a lot of sense, but I'm definitely interested in hearing your side; maybe I'll learn something new!

I'll take the PM too. Definitely curious. Don't know why you can't just say it since it seems to be the basis of value of what you are loaning against...
417  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How could bitcoin be used to directly benefit the gay community? on: June 04, 2013, 08:48:20 PM
How could bitcoin be used to directly benefit kittens?

BTC addresses under kitten photos on icanhascheeseburger to vote for best kitten pictures, with proceeds going to animal shelters? Animal shelters and cat rescue charities setting up webcams where you can watch the kittens play, and send in bitcoins to keep them fed and well cared for?

How could bitcoin be used to directly benefit yoga?

Having to contort into crazy positions just to try to explain to idiots why Bitcoins are not tulips?

How could bitcoin be used to directly benefit victim advocates?

"Assassination politics" against victimizers, paid for with anonymous bitcoin maybe?

How could bitcoin be used to directly benefit singing?

Musicians from around the word selling their music for bitcoin, especially in financially restrictive places like Iran, Argentina, and India?

How could bitcoin be used to directly benefit religion?

... um... The question was about "positive" things  Tongue

My point exactly. "Positive things" How do you say, the gay community is a positive thing? I'll agree it's a thing. But could someone not say _____ is not also a positive thing and put any damned thing in the blank? I mentioned kittens, but what about the feral cat population (ie, community). That doesn't make any sense.
418  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How could bitcoin be used to directly benefit the gay community? on: June 04, 2013, 07:09:53 PM
This is a serious question.

Bitcoin needs to be attached to more positive things.

WTF? Bitcoin needs to be attached to more positive things? Gay community is a more positive thing?

How could bitcoin be used to directly benefit kittens?
How could bitcoin be used to directly benefit yoga?
How could bitcoin be used to directly benefit victim advocates?
How could bitcoin be used to directly benefit singing?
How could bitcoin be used to directly benefit religion?

Your title and your OP don't seem to jive.
419  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: June 04, 2013, 06:57:57 PM
Just curious, what benefit would a marketing campaign provide to shareholders? I speculate that there is no shortage of people willing to buy ASICMINER hardware (at this point, at least.)

I think the only thing that a marketing campaign could do, we also include having a store front, where people could buy machines with say, credit cards. I guarantee that if credit cards were accepted, there would be a great deal more ASIC's sold by AM. Purchasing in BTC is a limiting factor for some. But with that of course, comes risk. But still, there is enough word of mouth, that paying for ads still may not benefit because they would probably sell as fast as they could make them at that point.

I agree that a way to convert fiat into mining hardware would be beneficial.

However, ASICMINER would have to then convert fiat to BTC to pay dividends. It feels clunky.

Not saying it's a bad idea, it's just a bit logistically challenging.

Ian

I'm not saying that AM should do it. I'm just saying that's the only market segment I think they are missing.

Anyone with BTC that wants AM, knows damn well about their ASIC's and what is available. People with credit cards would be the larger untapped market, but maybe that is a spot for a reseller.
420  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: June 04, 2013, 06:52:26 PM
Just curious, what benefit would a marketing campaign provide to shareholders? I speculate that there is no shortage of people willing to buy ASICMINER hardware (at this point, at least.)

I think the only thing that a marketing campaign could do, we also include having a store front, where people could buy machines with say, credit cards. I guarantee that if credit cards were accepted, there would be a great deal more ASIC's sold by AM. Purchasing in BTC is a limiting factor for some. But with that of course, comes risk. But still, there is enough word of mouth, that paying for ads still may not benefit because they would probably sell as fast as they could make them at that point.
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