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To add, if it keeps a billion Hindus, two billion Christians, and 15 million Jews safe from terrorism and beheadings I would rather have the Middle East divided along Sunni-Shia religious lines. I don't want Shias to be oppressed to the point where they are no longer politically relevant and Sunni insurgent groups decide to focus their entire attention on Christians, Hindus, and Jews.
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I would rather have Assad in power in Syria rather than ISIS. I think Shias are more moderate than radical Sunnis; which I think is obvious.
the people living in rebel held towns in syria would disagree with you. the human rights abuses being committed by the Assad regime are almost as bad as ISIS. dropping barrels filled with explosives from helicopters into crowded civilian areas... is that so much less barbaric? There are some radical Muslims that believe that they have do destroy different Sects (Shia) first before they move on to the Christians and Jews and then Allah will reveal Himself. It keeps the balance when at least several Muslim countries have a Shia Prime Minister. If Iraq and Syria fall to Sunni insurgents, then the only Shia-led State left will be Iran. This would unite Islamic extremists against Christians and Jews next. Edit: There are even some Sunnis Muslims who believe that Shias are not even real Muslims. I don't think the argument here is that Iraq shouldn't have a majority shia representation. Side note: Azerbaijan is also predominately shia. They just aren't very close to Iran (politically) and side more with the US and Israel.Islamic extremists have never been united. That is how some Islamic extremists think. I have been to Kuwait, Qatar, and Israel and I have spoken to Muslims while studying Political Science in college. I also speak fluent Russian (being originally from Ukraine) and can tell you what Chechen militants are saying. From all this is how I conclude my thoughts when I write them down. This is from Political Science study and first hand experience, and not from reading news articles. Sorry to be so harsh, but that is just how I feel. |
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Al Qaeda disagrees with the ISIS on a number of things. One of the big ones is sectarianism (which al Qaeda's ideological old guard is against). They also disagree with the formation of Islamic states, preferring instead to work towards a greater caliphate (through the establishment of emirates). It may sound like splitting hairs, but it has big theological implications as well. They also disagree strongly on who should lead a future Islamic caliphate with Al Qaeda supporting Muhammad Omar of the Taliban while the IS supports Baghdadi.
It is a big mistake for Iraqi Sunnis to support ISIS. They are supporting barbarians. Yes, Al Qaeda is against sectarianism. And yes, Al Qaeda wants a Caliphate from Morocco through Pakistan. Israel is interfering with that dream of a greater Caliphate. ISIS had better be careful not to tick off Israel because Israel may launch airstrikes against ISIS in Syria. The U.S. should continue airstrikes against ISIS. They should attack ISIS positions in Syria as well. I would rather have Assad in power in Syria rather than ISIS. I think Shias are more moderate than radical Sunnis; which I think is obvious. They are supporting their own protection (in their eyes). They actively fought AQI during the Awakening and were rewarded with a discriminatory state government. Many don't even like the ISIS but figure that they'll deal with Baghdadi after Maliki has been taken care of, others are coerced via threats to cooperate. I think it is best to keep a Shia Prime Minister in Iraq. That way, Iraq, Iran, and Syria will have Shia leaders. And the rest of the Muslim world will have Sunni leaders. This will keep things balanced. That's fine I suppose, but it doesn't really do anything to address the concerns of the Sunnis and Kurds. I'm not really sure what metrics you are basing this notion of balance on, but I don't think many Gulf States would agree with you. I don't care what the Gulf States have to say. This is my personal opinion on a message board. And I said some Islamic extremists, not all. I don't care what Gulf States have to say if they have a united Sunni Extremist Emirate that wants to target me (as a Jew) or someone else on this forum (as a Christian). All Sunni extremist insurgent groups I see as a threat to both Jews and Christians. |
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I would rather have Assad in power in Syria rather than ISIS. I think Shias are more moderate than radical Sunnis; which I think is obvious.
the people living in rebel held towns in syria would disagree with you. the human rights abuses being committed by the Assad regime are almost as bad as ISIS. dropping barrels filled with explosives from helicopters into crowded civilian areas... is that so much less barbaric? There are some radical Muslims that believe that they have do destroy different Sects (Shia) first before they move on to the Christians and Jews and then Allah will reveal Himself. It keeps the balance when at least several Muslim countries have a Shia Prime Minister. If Iraq and Syria fall to Sunni insurgents, then the only Shia-led State left will be Iran. This would unite Islamic extremists against Christians and Jews next. Edit: There are even some Sunnis Muslims who believe that Shias are not even real Muslims. |
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Al Qaeda disagrees with the ISIS on a number of things. One of the big ones is sectarianism (which al Qaeda's ideological old guard is against). They also disagree with the formation of Islamic states, preferring instead to work towards a greater caliphate (through the establishment of emirates). It may sound like splitting hairs, but it has big theological implications as well. They also disagree strongly on who should lead a future Islamic caliphate with Al Qaeda supporting Muhammad Omar of the Taliban while the IS supports Baghdadi.
It is a big mistake for Iraqi Sunnis to support ISIS. They are supporting barbarians. Yes, Al Qaeda is against sectarianism. And yes, Al Qaeda wants a Caliphate from Morocco through Pakistan. Israel is interfering with that dream of a greater Caliphate. ISIS had better be careful not to tick off Israel because Israel may launch airstrikes against ISIS in Syria. The U.S. should continue airstrikes against ISIS. They should attack ISIS positions in Syria as well. I would rather have Assad in power in Syria rather than ISIS. I think Shias are more moderate than radical Sunnis; which I think is obvious. They are supporting their own protection (in their eyes). They actively fought AQI during the Awakening and were rewarded with a discriminatory state government. Many don't even like the ISIS but figure that they'll deal with Baghdadi after Maliki has been taken care of, others are coerced via threats to cooperate. I think it is best to keep a Shia Prime Minister in Iraq. That way, Iraq, Iran, and Syria will have Shia leaders. And the rest of the Muslim world will have Sunni leaders. This will keep things balanced. |
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Al Qaeda disagrees with the ISIS on a number of things. One of the big ones is sectarianism (which al Qaeda's ideological old guard is against). They also disagree with the formation of Islamic states, preferring instead to work towards a greater caliphate (through the establishment of emirates). It may sound like splitting hairs, but it has big theological implications as well. They also disagree strongly on who should lead a future Islamic caliphate with Al Qaeda supporting Muhammad Omar of the Taliban while the IS supports Baghdadi.
It is a big mistake for Iraqi Sunnis to support ISIS. They are supporting barbarians. Yes, Al Qaeda is against sectarianism. And yes, Al Qaeda wants a Caliphate from Morocco through Pakistan. Israel is interfering with that dream of a greater Caliphate. ISIS had better be careful not to tick off Israel because Israel may launch airstrikes against ISIS in Syria. The U.S. should continue airstrikes against ISIS. They should attack ISIS positions in Syria as well. I would rather have Assad in power in Syria rather than ISIS. I think Shias are more moderate than radical Sunnis; which I think is obvious. |
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And I only think Maliki is disliked by Sunnis because he is a Shia. I do not find him divisive. I just think being a Shia makes it harder for him to get respect from Sunnis.
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This doesn't have anything to do with our hesitancy in the subject. With a deeply sectarian and divisive leader of Iraq (Maliki) it isn't a good tactic to promote said individual when the IS garners most of its support by relying on that sectarian imagery and threat from Maliki.
How will ISIS get support when it is threatening to destroy the Kaaba? I do not defend Al Qaeda, or anything like that, but Al Qaeda disagrees with ISIS because they say that if they are not at war with someone or being invaded by someone, like the Yazidis, or the Iraqi Christians, then they leave them alone. Also, Al Qaeda wants to take the Kaaba from Saudi Arabia but they do not support destroying it the way some members of ISIS do. Also, ISIS is unnecessarily barbaric. Al Qaeda only believes in beheading those who they are at war with or who they feel is occupying their land. I'm not defending Al Qaeda, but ISIS is even too extreme for Al Qaeda. |
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You never know what you are going to see on Bourbon Street, especially late at night. There is no place else like it in this country. If you can't have fun walking down Bourbon, you can't have fun.
Can you give an example? isn't the Bourbon street in the french neighbourhood or something? excuse my ignorance  I'm not familliar with the US and especially with New Orleans Bourbon street in the french quarter,New Orleans Most anyone who comes to New Orleans wants to experience Bourbon Street. Many sights and sounds you won't experience anywhere else. You can walk around with a cocktail and take in the sights. There are many clubs/bars with live music by mainly NO musicians. A must-do for any first time tourist. Note: It can be a bit crowded at times so don't go if you don't like crowds. |
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The united nations was formed to prevent and defend the weak. If the world does not intervene. Then the whole world is in peril. Forget the trading and profitable world relationships we have now. The liberal hand wringers have had theirs and got their way with iraq and afghanistan. Tell the world how talks and sanctions are to prevent mass slaughter by this evil
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People blame Maliki as if his 'sins' justify what ISIS are doing. Wahhabism is the root of the problem. It's politics. Give them time to commit their atrocities, so the US will look like the great saviour.That being said, I fully support any country that will bomb these fucks out of existence.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ts_on_currencyWhy in the world would Ayn Rand deserve to be put on any U.S. Currency? She was born and educated in Russia! What woman has done as much as any of the Founders of the U.S.? Have we exhausted all those illustrious signers of the Declaration of Independence and the U.S. Constitution? If Betsy Ross hasn't been considered, why in the world would Beyonce be considered? (I know that that that was bait for the illiterate and ignorant.) Harriet Beecher Stowe - she wrote Uncle Tom's Cabin and changed the Nation. Is that enough, though? It may pander to the African American, but why stop there? Sally Ride, may she rest in Peace, was "just" an astronaut. Why should other astronauts be passed over?, John Glenn, Ed White, Neil Armstrong, etc. & et. al. The question shouldn't be "What woman should be put on the Dollar Bill," it should be "Why should a woman be put on a Dollar bill?" "Because it's the right thing to do" is not good enough - might as well put women on 50% of all U.S. currency since they now have equal rights - which means that 50% of the currency should carry women personages. Here's a clue: What was George Washington's wife name? What was her maiden name? I know, I know, you know more about Beyonce than you do the Fist Lady of the United States! So much more the pity!
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_5547635.htmlReported ISIS Member Says They Will Destroy The Kaaba In Mecca, 'Kill Those Who Worship Stones' [UPDATE] UPDATE 4:14 PM-- The Twitter account https://twitter.com/nm8smyh, which sent the original message, has been suspended. The authenticity of the account as belonging to an ISIS member has not been verified. A reported member of the militant group Islamic State in Iraq and al-Sham (ISIS), which recently dubbed itself simply as The Islamic State, has declared that they will destroy the Kaaba in Mecca, Saudi Arabia, which is Islam's most holy site. APA quoted alleged ISIS member Abu Turab Al Mugaddasi based on reports from Turkish media, who said on Twitter: If Allah wills, we will kill those who worship stones in Mecca and destroy the Kaaba. People go to Mecca to touch the stones, not for Allah. ISIS reportedly is planning to take over the city of Arar in Saudi Arabia, which is very close to the Iraq border. It is a fifteen-hour drive away from Mecca, the site of the Hajj pilgrimage which all observant Muslims are expected to do at least once. If indeed the statement is from an ISIS member, it's a shocking one even for them, considering that ISIS has been attempting to increase recruitment from Muslims worldwide by declaring the restoration of an Islamic Caliphate. According to John L. Esposito, Professor of Religion and International Affairs and of Islamic Studies at Georgetown University, "In terms of legitimacy- unless you're someone who's ready to join a terrorist group at this point, for the vast majority of Muslims there is no legitimacy with this group." This most recent threat reinforces Esposito's point, particularly as it comes during the holy month of Ramadan. This piece has been updated to reflect the lack of authentication behind the reported tweet. Wow if that is accurate this could get really ugly. We definitely do not want to get dragged into fights between Muslim sects. I have been waiting for something like this to happen. A group of Savages to really take their savagery too far and want to destroy Mecca or even the Dome of the Rock. Either way the other Savages will find a way to blame America or "Tha Jews" for it. And I've been waiting for moderate Muslims to stand up for themselves rather than join then or turn and run. |
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ISIS is terrible. They have a habit of beheading people and literally crucifying Christians.Good thing we are spending millions of dollars to bomb millions in tanks and apcs that we paid for.
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I guess I have a love-hate relationship with religion. I find it interesting philosophy-wise, but I do not agree with some of it. I am totally fascinated and infatuated with religion. It's like a Stephen king book...I know that shit didn't happen but DAMN it's an awesome story to read!! That is how Orthodox Jews in general, and Orthodox Israelis in particular, refer to God.I am glad that we are both interested in religion. Religion is interesting.I do not know who the Messiah is and when he/she is coming. have any messiahs returned in the past ? were there any false messiahs that turned out to be cheeky rascals, maybe coming back to claim to be the son of god, then shagging a load of women while they got the chance to unload their holy seed ? There were possible Messiah candidates. One Rabbi was seen by his followers to be the Messiah but converted to Islam under threat of death. So yes, there have been Messiah candidates who turned out to not be the Messiah. |
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I'm always suprised that some people still believe this fiction. It's as kooky as the kookiest babble you might hear in some mental asylum. But the man in the sky lol, oh what trouble that causes. The trouble comes because an elected few always claim to have direct contact with "god" and they write instructions and books to coral the opinion and action of the "believers". It's time we as a species started to take self responsibility, instead most kids grow into adults and still crave a "daddy" and or a "mummy", this takes the form of a leader of state (lame) or more likely a "god" (lamer). Bitcoin and computer science has no room for "religion" and all the perverted thoughts it ecourages. I realise most posters in this thread are only academically interested in the subject, not "believers", thank god  You are right,we are in the century of high technology and speed and bitcoin,but is good to learn and be interested religions, nations, history, is good to know a bit from everything,and also is good you find people with common interest. |
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I guess I have a love-hate relationship with religion. I find it interesting philosophy-wise, but I do not agree with some of it. I am totally fascinated and infatuated with religion. It's like a Stephen king book...I know that shit didn't happen but DAMN it's an awesome story to read!! That is how Orthodox Jews in general, and Orthodox Israelis in particular, refer to God.I am glad that we are both interested in religion. Religion is interesting.I do not know who the Messiah is and when he/she is coming. |
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A Rabbi once told me that if you pick a random letter on a page of the Torah, for example, the third letter on the first paragraph of page 1, and read that third letter of paragraph 1 of every page, then it makes a new story. Is that true? That would be remarkable if that was true.
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That is what I meant. Sorry for not clarifying. Is it true with Hebrew letters? |
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I thought when the temple is rebuilt messiah will come .Which is conveniently on one of the holiest Islamic sites lol.
well maybe not the messiah but they may end up hastening the apocalypse if they start tearing down holy Islamic sites. It could actually happen one way or the other. The Messiah can come first or the Temple can come first. The location of the Temple is on the third holiest site of Islam. That's true. You hit the nail on the head of why the situation is so volatile. Israel controls Judaism's number one holy site, but it also controls Islam's number three holy site. And both are the same site. So Jerusalem is a major part of the conflict. |
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A Rabbi once told me that if you pick a random letter on a page of the Torah, for example, the third letter on the first paragraph of page 1, and read that third letter of paragraph 1 of every page, then it makes a new story. Is that true? That would be remarkable if that was true.
sounds like he was trying to explain that you can make up whatever story you want if you just pick random parts of the book. developing your imagination-remarkable but a bit dangerous in the same time. |
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