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401  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: WINGS ★ Where DAO Unicorns Are Born! ★ {18.11.2016 - 06.01.2016} on: December 26, 2016, 10:05:00 PM
When ICO is finish and what will be price of wings after ICO?

That seems pretty early to tell because all the funds haven't been collected yet. Yes, there is "stated" price after the funds have been collected but who knows what the multiplier is after ICO. It seems pretty difficult to determine the price of something that is currently not being exchanged/transacted on the open market of different crypto-currency exchanges. The buyers demand and sellers supply or what portion they are willing to part with will give you a better idea but that also seems like in the future due to no exchanges listing wings yet.

Ironically, this is a question that we eventually intend to allow WINGS DAO forecasters to answer.  Though the first versions will only allow for valuing projects and assigning probabilities for accomplishing milestones for a project.
402  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][AlphaTest] Firstblood.io - A Decentralized Ethereum Based eSports Platform on: December 26, 2016, 04:19:26 PM
such an innovative project cant wait to see the alpha - btw we are finally releasing our alpha tomorrow as well
403  Local / Токены / Re: ❄️ WINGS ❄️ - DAO Космодром! {18.11 - 06.01} on: December 26, 2016, 03:25:15 PM
Перевести можно до 6.01. Для чего панику наводить зря.
Обмен яиц в личном кабинете fly.wings.ai будет работать еще 24 часа после завершения кампании поддержки.
404  Local / Токены / Re: ❄️ WINGS ❄️ - DAO Космодром! {18.11 - 06.01} on: December 26, 2016, 03:04:11 PM
Почему то мне кажется что wings  максимум наберут 3к битков. А минимум 2к битка. И интересно что будут делать разрабы?

Как и говорили с самого начала, у нас есть достаточно как на рабочий продукт (включая аудитинги безопасности) так и на PR кампанию.

Для продвинутых возможностей (кросс-блокчейн, спонсорство хакатонов и тд) понадобиться дополнительная поддержка, будем это решать вместе с сообществом посредством DAO подходом (голосования или рынки предсказаний).
405  Local / Токены / Re: ❄️ WINGS ❄️ - DAO Космодром! {18.11 - 06.01} on: December 26, 2016, 02:54:37 PM
* Расчет базируется на актуальных данных и может поменяться в случае изменения этих данных. Наверное 75 млн wings участвующих в распродаже / 1590 собранных битков более верная формула.

Да, так как любой алтькоин фиксируется в его курсе BTC на момент депозита.
406  Local / Токены / Re: ❄️ WINGS ❄️ - DAO Космодром! {18.11 - 06.01} on: December 26, 2016, 02:53:32 PM
Я ориентируюсь на калькулятор,который интегрировали в кабинет.
Который к слову ,сейчас не доступен Sad

Пошлите пожалуйста скриншот на support@wings.ai.
407  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: WINGS ★ Where DAO Unicorns Are Born! ★ {18.11.2016 - 06.01.2016} on: December 26, 2016, 01:59:55 PM

What is the idea behind this allocation? Why would you incentive people to invest with weak Alts? what is your gain from raising ETC for example??

From one page back, wings.ai says
"The intention is that the foundation has a good allocation of various coins. So that it is not at the mercy of the volatile crypto markets"

Actually that makes sense.

Problem was that they didn't remind users about it. Yes, it was written in whitepaper. But not many read it.
Many People here wouldn't have come to know about it if someone here on Bitcoin talk hadnt 'pointed that out.
Many those who came to know about this didn't tell it to others to gain maximum profit.

there's been periodic reminders of this on twitter, FB, blog, and newsletter

https://blog.wings.ai/introducing-the-estimated-wings-allocation-calculator-ab580db368c2#.esnp6msju
https://blog.wings.ai/understanding-the-bitcoin-ethereum-ethereum-classic-ripple-and-litecoin-wings-allocations-1670479f07dd#.i8kn9rf72
https://blog.wings.ai/wings-bonus-drop-frequently-asked-questions-v1-fd809958ae86#.wzyzt73r2
https://blog.wings.ai/get-ready-wings-dao-details-revealed-d8baaa33a33#.v8f4sla2o
408  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: WINGS ★ Where DAO Unicorns Are Born! ★ {18.11.2016 - 06.01.2016} on: December 25, 2016, 10:18:48 PM


The outcome is not finished yet.  So do not jump to conclusions as the ratios are beginning to even out now. Now ETC, LTC and XRP are only 4X btc, this will continue to lower.  

We must have faith that things will equal out as there is less chance of volatility in altcoin prices. 

It is Christmas today, enjoy your time with your family.
409  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: WINGS ★ Where DAO Unicorns Are Born! ★ {18.11.2016 - 06.01.2016} on: December 25, 2016, 09:09:19 PM
Quote from: MFahad
Disclaimer: I was not aware of the stupid allocation rules when investing. In fact, I actually didn't want to invest with BTC but with ETH, but then there was some stupid exclusive bonus for BTC investors. MISLEADING!

Example:
1 BTC investment (=$908) gives me 33,322 Wings
867.7 ETC investment (=$908) gives me 247,326 Wings

That's more than 7 times more WINGS for the same amount of dollars in value!


You may get 7 times more WINGS if you invest in ETC now... but remember that the final calculations will rely on current total funds collected. Estimations will change as new funds are received. See terms & conditions for further details.


That's a freake'n scandal.......Why won't you give us a statement on the subject??
This is not the way to go with your first investors.

Yes, but no one will not change rules during game. It will not be fair to users who have carefully read whitepaper.

It's not about changing the rules, its about proving yourself to be fair and trustworthy. It's about understanding their true motivations and intentions as to the people giving them funds and to the future of the project itself. Many manufacturers of products make unintentional mistakes with pricing, but still go out and correct them in order to gain consumer trust, the people they need to actually make them successful.  

Given the lack of response from anyone from the WINGS team on this and how they've decided to dangle the public calculator in everyone's faces now to show the imbalance, this seems to be a ploy to get more $$$ out of the BTC investors in order to level off the imbalance- as their other marketing tactics seem to be failing to get them more $$$ from new investors.   This paints their intentions as greedy and untrustworthy.  What's to stop them from also dangling the "donation" clause as someone earlier mentioned right after the ICO is over and say gee, we've decided to no longer continue this project, did your read the abandonment clause thank you for your generous donations this holiday season??

If they actually came out and said that this was unintentional and they will correct the allocation at the end in order to make it fair to everyone that invested, then I would actually invest more because they would prove themselves to be trustworthy.  As I said, a minor imbalance, I can understand, but 7X is seriously unacceptable and unfair.

Again, its all about character and intention which seems to be nefarious.  At this point, I am requesting someone from the WINGS team to please refund me my BTC as I am no longer interested in this project.  To investors sitting on the sideline, I would not recommend investing in this project at this point.  I will also be emailing Smith & Crown and ICORATING.COM and notifying them of this situation and hopefully, this will deter people from getting screwed over.   If you are a BTC investor, please stand up and speak up!!!



The intention is that the foundation has a good allocation of various coins. So that it is not at the mercy of the volatile crypto markets

410  Local / Токены / Re: ❄️ WINGS ❄️ - DAO Космодром! {18.11 - 06.01} on: December 24, 2016, 05:24:17 PM
До конца токен компании (6го Января) Wings по условиям кампании не имеет доступа к собранным средствам.
Интересует важный вопрос: как команда будет считать собранные средства? Будет учитываться курс биткоина на данный момент? Или будет считаться чисто по количеству биткоинов?
Просто сейчас собрано 1500 бтц, но по нынешнему курсу это практически 3000 бтц по курсу 580, когда и закладывался бюджет.
Это, как мне кажется, важный вопрос, и на который при этом можно ответить сразу.

Мой вопрос как всегда проигнорировали
Очевидно, что учитывается количество BTC.
Все расчеты производятся в соответствии с terms of service.
411  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: WINGS ★ Where DAO Unicorns Are Born! ★ {18.11.2016 - 06.01.2016} on: December 24, 2016, 05:08:23 PM

Season’s Greetings & Good Tidings from WINGS Foundation: WINGS Foundation has received a Google Ad Grants award

https://blog.wings.ai/seasons-greetings-good-tidings-from-wings-foundation-a41aee75de8b

412  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: WINGS ★ Where DAO Unicorns Are Born! ★ {18.11.2016 - 06.01.2016} on: December 23, 2016, 04:25:44 PM
Is there any threshold? If we can't raise 5000 BTC, will people get refund or project continues?

project continues.  first project DAO (stremio just received 500k from bitmain) is going to happen in March most likely

https://cointelegraph.com/press-releases/stremio-selects-wings-dao-management-platform-for-the-adex-crowdfunding-campaign
413  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: WINGS ★ Where DAO Unicorns Are Born! ★ {18.11.2016 - 06.01.2016} on: December 23, 2016, 04:23:54 PM
"WINGS Stiftung is a recipient of a Google Ad Grants award. The Google Ad Grants program supports registered nonprofit organizations that share Google's philosophy of community service to help the world in areas such as science and technology, education, global public health, the environment, youth advocacy, and the arts. Google Ad Grants is an in-kind advertising program that awards free online advertising to nonprofits via Google AdWords."

we'll be publishing more info on this later in a blog post - foundation will get $10,000/month in google advertising, and possibly can get up to $40,000/month if we get into the Grant Pro program.


414  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: WINGS ★ Where DAO Unicorns Are Born! ★ {18.11.2016 - 06.01.2016} on: December 23, 2016, 08:54:40 AM
As a potential doubter in the early stages of the project and now supporter of your project, why do you have 5000 Bitcoin minimum for this project since the price of bitcoin is currently increasing. What happens if you don't reach the 5000 bitcoin minimum and do you have plans for the project if it doesn't reach it. I am have invested 1 BTC so far and would just like some further clarification. If what I am reading is potentially correct, please correct me if I am wrong, I mistakes too, how long would funding be if you didn't reach a certain threshold or certain amount that you desire to raise?  Huh

- You currently have about $1.42 Million U.S.D for the project, do you have a specific amount of money you wish to have before continuing the project or finishing the funding after a few more rounds and how long would that be?

The collected amount is enough for delivering both a fully working product and launching marketing campaign. Some of the more advanced features that we planned might require additional community support, and Wings will provide the DAO tools allowing the community to decide how it wants to proceed.
415  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: WINGS ★ Where DAO Unicorns Are Born! ★ {18.11.2016 - 06.01.2016} on: December 23, 2016, 08:50:30 AM
Yes but it still doesn't tell the plan with the fund under 5k BTC. I'm afraid both the token distribution and the listing on exchanges may delay because of that.

As mentioned before, we will publish an updated roadmap after the token campaign is over, once we know exactly the collected amounts and the final project budget.
416  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: WINGS ★ Where DAO Unicorns Are Born! ★ {18.11.2016 - 06.01.2016} on: December 23, 2016, 08:48:08 AM
Glad to see that people are avoiding this scam like the plague.  Roll Eyes  

All of a sudden, there is a need for more "donation" rounds.    Stas, How about you fucking stick to your word and commitment and accept how much "donations" you receive this time around.  Or is that not enough for you you greedy bastard.  Do you plan on conducting the same scam as your buddy Dor Konforty did with AMPs and pump up Wings and hold 2nd, 3rd , 4th ICOs and then dump all your holdings.  

All potential victims need to do is visit the AMPs thread to see the scam that Stas' buddy pulled off.   All of a sudden, there are unforseen delays with AMPs.   I predict the same thing will happen to wings.      

As said before, we sorry for your loss with other projects, but you really should come with your grievances to their own leaders. There is no connection between Wings and Synereo, nor between any of our team members and theirs.

As per your accusations, contrary to Synereo that kept most of tokens after the 1st ICO and which allowed them to do additional rounds, Wings will distribute most of it's tokens to the participants, with the team own tokens locked under vested schedules.
417  Local / Токены / Re: ❄️ WINGS ❄️ - DAO Космодром! {18.11 - 06.01} on: December 23, 2016, 08:40:57 AM
До конца токен компании (6го Января) Wings по условиям кампании не имеет доступа к собранным средствам.
418  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: WINGS ★ Where DAO Unicorns Are Born! ★ {18.11.2016 - 06.01.2016} on: December 22, 2016, 03:16:13 AM
How much of marketing do you expect to do before release of a working product to attract clients?

people are already approaching us and expressing interest in using the platform. i would say that roughly speaking various team members have spoken to perhaps 40+ various potential projects that have some interest in this.  we already are doing marketing in russia:

http://forklog.net/wings-and-forklog-announce-a-contest-for-the-best-concept-for-a-dao/ (30 projects submitted)

We will launch the alpha demo in the next week, which will let people submit projects, forecast on them (simplified version) and possibly do some trial crowdfunding using testnet RSK (still pending testing some things so this is not for sure yet) - we'll give away some prizes for this.  If it goes as well as the forklog project we can expect to have a good number of prospective future WINGS project DAOs.  I recommend you start amassing some RSK here: faucet.rsk.co use the Jaxx wallet Grin

the people on the project side we speak with the interest seems to be 3-fold:

1) getting access to the DAO governance tech so that their community of coinholders can be involved in decision-making

2) engaging with the community of WINGS holders to get the ones who forecast favorably of a concept to participate in various bounties to grow early adoption and marketing

3) get feedback from a large community on how to adjust and edit proposals to a state that is marketable

here is one:

https://cointelegraph.com/press-releases/stremio-selects-wings-dao-management-platform-for-the-adex-crowdfunding-campaign

we're talking to others to get customer requirements and to do knowledge transfer so that it does not take them 9+ months to do their crowdfunding.

lastly, we expect that anyone who is holding a decent amount of WINGS will obviously be interested to do some word of mouth marketing - just think, bitcoin didn't get big with only Satoshi going around talking to people.  so we'll work on community enablement type stuff next year as well particularly on the international side in the non-english speaking parts of the world who do not have their own kickstarters and indiegogos.

Does that mean that you will already start doing "business" during the ICO? You have working demo of the platform in place already?


Does that mean that you will already start doing "business" during the ICO?


It means we plan to launch an alpha demo for demonstration purposes only.


You have working demo of the platform in place already?

There has been an alpha demo of some of the project proposal and forecast feature (very basic) for a couple months now. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gV6yiuBabIw


419  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: WINGS ★ Where DAO Unicorns Are Born! ★ {18.11.2016 - 06.01.2016} on: December 21, 2016, 11:08:12 PM
Hello, sorry to bother you guys with a bounty question but I want to hatch my eggs and I can't login with my bounty credentials on Wings fly site. What am I suppose to do? Create another account?

I think you need to ask for a password reset

https://fly.wings.ai/#/?forgot=1

Awesome, thanks for the quick reply, that was the problem, it was weird because I could actually login to both sites separately. Must be my browser password generator using a different password.

yea sounds like you reset it on one of the services - there is no unified log in system developed for this
420  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: WINGS ★ Where DAO Unicorns Are Born! ★ {18.11.2016 - 06.01.2016} on: December 21, 2016, 07:39:47 PM
Hello, sorry to bother you guys with a bounty question but I want to hatch my eggs and I can't login with my bounty credentials on Wings fly site. What am I suppose to do? Create another account?

I think you need to ask for a password reset

https://fly.wings.ai/#/?forgot=1
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