Pinidea r finished , baikal yeah prob but who knows they could pull a new monster hasher out of a hat and learn to compete with real competition.

Think its 7500 on bitbaza 6k on ibelink site.

I think everyone will overclock it , if they mention it in specs youd assume its capable and stable with the right cooling and covered by warranty for 6 months is great so if thats all achieveable we might have to assume they are priced at their 38ghs capacity even if its less efficient to run overclocked.

   So 2.5x speed of d3 is ~ 38ghs so looking at the power efficiency savings benefits ( 1200x2.5 =3000 watts for 2.5 d3s  vs 1200watts a5 overclocked ) 1.8kh an hour savings - forever , and some development costs and premiums on being the best plus future dash value minus future difficulty (maybe they wont care about difficulty increases as much as bitmain has takin it into account in their price discount)

D3

$6750+ for 2.5 d3s ( plus is for extra shipping and 2nd batch possible premium/ dash price increase )
 ( u cant order 2.5 machines but this is just for hash comparison)

So batch 2 will prob cost $6750 up to 8250 (l3+s ranged from ~1300-1700+) for 2.5 d3s ( to equal ~38ghs of the 1 A5)

Power Cost Difference between D3 and A5 ( overclocked )per mh in kw an hour =
 1.8 kw  1.8 x 24 hours x 7x 4  = 1200kw x .10 c/kw =  $  120  a month extra to run 2.5 d3s ( hashpower of 1 a5 at 38ghs)              =  $  1440 for  12  months                                        

 1.65kw an hour savings between not overclocked a5 and 2x d3s both at 30ghs $ =  110  a month extra to run 2 d3s                       =    $  1320  for 12 months ( not overclocked and 8ghs less speed then above )

A5

 Prob second to d3 to market so less cost for that and longer wait time , less reputable brand with past changes in final specs and delivery delays then bitmain so minus price for that, smaller brand with less starting capital then bitmain and prob more expensive manufacturing processes and costs  then bitmain,

 The a5 is suppose to be best and have good profitability for  years as it says in description. They will factor this into price absolutely. I think power cost will become a much more important factor to consider with x11 as it isnt much now, as profits get slimmer efficiency will matter more , it wont for awhile but if innosilicon expect the A5 to be profitable for years its something to consider later down the track and they will charge u for that efficiency.


So with all these factors in mind u can imagine how much it would prob  cost. A lot of these factors innosilicon wont take into account because demand can make some of these factors irrelevant and then theres just pure greed. Lol

  I Think theyll charge 9-10k for single units sold to public which is basically 7.5k - 8.5k with the minimum amount youd save in power at .10c usd a kw (which is cheap in some places) for its useful profitable lifetime of up to 12 months ( they say years but all it takes is 150ghs+ machines in 6 months to change things.Never say Never.) Further batches should be cheaper as difficulty will definitely affect their profitability. This machine has be good enough till around the reward halving in 2019 so its a big ask for them to expect it to. NEED A CEASEFIRE in x11 arms race!

Eventually l3+s were sold only for ltc, didnt happen straight away but if bitmain does the same for dash expect plenty of support and even some initial future rallys  based solely on people buying miners and affecting the dash price by  doing so as well as general traders buying now and holding in anticipation for the difficulty bomb and evolution update. Dash should surpass the  zcash ATH by December esp if btc reaches 3700. Volume is prob not high enough for bitmain to start doing that but give it time there will plenty of coins in a few months..

Id prob compare it to the way they sold the l3+, not by the price, but by the way the price fluctuated between ~1300-1700 , its a good strategy cause anyone who missed out on first batch at ~2700 will be fuming and desperate cause they've been made to wait so they'll pay more for second batch, noone expected first batch so they were cheap to build up confidence and awareness, problem is that btc is going up, dash will most likely go up too, so they will offer new batches in these market trends , dash could be 250 by the time they release 2nd batch, therefore they can charge more cause it will make more money, they prob have taken into account the future difficulty and wait time from the first batches price, which is admirable, second batch could even ship during same period as first , but with a premium in price. I think they are waiting to see what the difficulty will be once ibelinks are all online, and that will be what they base their price on. Truth is its very difficult to know what they'll do, cause theres way too many factors. I dont think they'll charge more then 3300 but.

Its simple, they need to design new chips on a different process, well not simple, expensive and time consuming, they cant just keep throwing more of the same chips into the same amount of space , or slightly larger without having limitations on speed and price and storage space. So im not surprised they cant compete on price. If they have a new chip in the works then it wont be released in a new miner until they sell all of their old inventory. They better do that fast before people get wise.

No, it gives the impression that it will be in days or weeks, but could be monthly , as long as they have let people know their making em, they will corner the market for however long it takes. Dont expect to get it at same  price either.

sep 15-25 i think

Its a l3+ case design with some blank stickers, smart move , just reuse old designs.  Maybe there will be smaller batches with the l3+'s soon, more profit in selling d3's then l3+s.

would be good to have a profitable coin on quark, x13 etc but theres nothing compared to x11 for profit, if an x11 only asic does a better job then a multi algo x11 id concentrate on x11 only like the other miners are doing.

Thats cause ltc price exploded and was cheap pre l3+, dash will go up prob but not as drastically as ltc did

Prob Quieter then 16 original giants though

They want offers I bet they prob wont respond if u dont have a bid theyll honor , big money and big orders first wont leave much for the small guy.

Warranty is 6 months

40cm long is that longer then normal?

https://mobile.twitter.com/Inno_Miner

Check out the specs 38ghs if overclocked...

1 maybe 2 for me depending on price/ ship date

Ibelink owners will reep the rewards before the difficulty bomb when the d3s/a5s are released. The more people who are turned off ibelinks price the less they are sold, better rewards for owners, but of course its possible resellers are mining away before their sold, but that would screw with their sell value. Who knows. All owners have to do is hold their coins, dont sell! evolution update due later this year too, so between that and difficulty increase the price of dash should go nuts