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4001  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: July 15, 2021, 09:34:52 AM
I heard of his departure because there was no agreement between Donaruma and Milan. After this euro I think the price of players will be even higher.
From some news I've read, Donnarumma are okay with any contract offer from AC Milan, but his Agent, Raiola are rejected it, because he believe if his clients can get more salary. Unfortunatelly, Maldini decide to say no to get another offer or accepting Raiola negotiation. But, i don't know this is the real case or no. But, this is not the first time, Milan lose his best players, look Pirlo, AC Milan reject to renew his contract, and Pirlo get trophy with Juventus and still showing good performance.
4002  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [Diskusi] Analisa Teknikal Bitcoin buat day trader on: July 15, 2021, 08:31:23 AM
Sedih thread ini saya buat sejak 2018 dan ndak ada pengeditan Cry
Benar, saya sudah mencoba menerapkan pola tersebut, nah, yang menjadi masalah adalah ketika kita membeli saat udah oversold, ternyata entry kita masih bisa dikatakan tidak sesuai dengan prediksi kita, sedangkan ini merupakan aset terakhir yang masih free, (ga ada untuk buyback). contohnya pada kasus ini misalnya.



Kita open posisi saat oversold pada 0.204, kebetulan ini adalah support dan RSI sudah oversold, ga muluk2, kita pasang close di 0.22, ternyata market tidak sesuai dengan prediksi kita. meski sudah oversold pada RSI, harga cenderung melanjutkan tren menurun  Grin

Nah, alternatif point yang saya tanyakan adalah, apakah kita harus memilih untuk pasang di support terbawah kedua? atau kita perlu mencari support dan resisten dari TF berbeda terlebih dahulu. Karena, sejauh ini, ada kecenderungan dari saya untuk selalu menggunakan dari 1 TF untuk memutuskan untuk entry  Roll Eyes
4003  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Altcoins - XRP, BCH, LTC, EOS, dll on: July 15, 2021, 02:58:34 AM
Mantan tim XRP, Jed McCaleb disinyalir berusaha melakukan dump harga XRP dengan melakukan penjualan secara besar-besaran pada XRP yang ia miliki. menurut laporan yang dirilis Cryptoslate, Jed sudah menjual lebih dari $60juta dalam 2 minggu terakhir. Yang menjadi pertanyaan sekarang adalah, apakah ada potensi kejadian ini akan menjadi fundamental negatif berkelanjutan untuk XRP, atau ini hanya sebagai trik dari Jed untuk "buy back". Jika memang dia berniat untuk dump, apakah ia tidak lagi memikirkan investor XRP hanya karena ia sudah bukan lagi tim XRP?

Jadi ngeri-ngeri sedap, ingat proyek lokal  Grin
4004  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [Diskusi] Analisa Teknikal Bitcoin buat day trader on: July 15, 2021, 12:26:25 AM
Saya akan lebih senang jika sampean bisa memberikan edukasi bagaimana cara atau timing yang tepat untuk melakukan entry
Nah ini suhu, saya juga sering salah entry meskipun sudah melihat "indikator" kwkkkwk, terkadang saya sampe mikir ini sebenarnya TF mana yang harus saya pakai agar bisa tepat saat entry, itu kalau sudah nyangkut pasti mikirnya kek gitu. ada banyak padahal, harusnya dan lain sebagainya yang muncul di benak saya.
Mungkin suhu @roycilik juga bisa memberi gambaran jadi kan ada alternatif point kalau nanti mas @hardjo juga membagikan kisi-kisi entry  Roll Eyes Tongue
4005  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: July 15, 2021, 12:19:20 AM
Hal-hal ini memang sudah memberikan pengaruh terhadap trend market crypto. Kalau isu nya cuman hal-hal begini, saya rasa tidak akan besar dampaknya ke market. Yang mungkin punya dampak cukup signifikan seperti isu yang datang dari Grayscale. Walaupun sebenarnya masih pro-kontra antara dampaknya bakal positif atau negatif terhadap harga BTC. Sedangkan terkait bullish di tahun 2017, saya rasa tidak bisa menjadi patokan mutlak karena tidak ada jaminan pola bullish di tahun 2021 sama atau mirip dengan di tahun 2017.

Bahkan isu ETF menunda BTC juga sudah ga begitu ngefek pada market seperti yang terjadi pada beberapa tahun lalu, kalau ga salah, ETF menunda lagi keputusan mereka hingga Agustus. Mengenai pola di masa lalu, saya ingin menambahkan, melihat apa yang terjadi pada 2017 hanya sebagai kemungkinan, begitu pula pada masa bullish. dan benar apa yang disebutkan oleh mas kawetsriyanto, ini bukan jaminan. Namun, untuk menentukan keputusan masing-masing apakah akan pasang posisi sell/buy/cl. 
4006  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: July 14, 2021, 08:51:37 AM
Sepertinya sih candle menunjukkan akan menyentuh $30K, karena ini juga merupakan harga BTC terendah sejak 28 Juni lalu. Re-test ke USD30K ini sepertinya lebih besar potensinya dibandingkan dengan re-test ke $35-40K. Support yang selanjutnya di 28K, ini sepertinya bukan support yang cukup kuat, sepertinya BTC lebih cenderung akan berbalik dari 27K, dan menjadikan 30K sebagai resisten. Ya, semoga saja harga BTC masih bisa pullback saat menyentuh 28K.
4007  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: July 14, 2021, 08:39:47 AM
Currently almost all Italian clubs are experiencing financial problems, which has prompted several clubs to sell their star players, but even so it looks like Juventus will extend Ronaldo contract and reportedly now Ronaldo agent has gone to Italy to negotiate a new deal with Juventus, although now Ronaldo has he is 36 years old, but that doesn't apply to his performance on the field so far which is still playing quite well, I think ronaldo will never lower his salary standard at juventus and even if juventus doesn't want to keep ronaldo of course there are still many big clubs who want to sign him and even real Madrid and PSG are reportedly ready to pay Ronaldo a high salary.


Regarding the potential extension, I also read some news reporting this. Of course, if he extends at Juventus, Ronaldo will ask for at least the same salary value as this season. And I understand it's not only Juventus who can pay Ronaldo with high price. However, the problem now is how the club's economic condition (serie-a, epl, la liga) is. If everything was normal, it would not be difficult for Ronaldo to find a club that could pay him higher. But, if next season, the stadium still cannot be filled at least 50% of capacity, this is still become a reason that make it difficult for the club to improve their finances to buy/pay a players. I know Ronaldo can bring something different with financial of club from selling shirt and new sponsors. but sometimes I think, this can be not enough for thr club.
4008  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: July 13, 2021, 04:47:48 PM
I don't think other star players in Juventus will leave the club just because they want to follow what Ronaldo does. Not all players in Juventus feel happy with the appearance of Ronaldo in the club. Some of them have to sacrifice their positions to serve the demand from Ronaldo.

I mean, we have messi that leave clubs with free agent, if next season juventus let ronaldo go, it's mean another star players ended with free agent. Sorry maybe my comment is a bit confusing.

Their performances are still strong to prove to the club that they need it and indeed their services are still needed by big clubs because regardless of age and appearance Ronaldo and Messi are not in doubt as long as they are sharp in front of goal and good at carrying the ball it will not be a problem the problems of their current era still exist and are not old in this regard.


The problems faced by the club today are nothing more than financial problems. If until the 2021/22 season runs, and Messi has not found a new club, then Messi must reduce his salary. Just like Ronaldo next season (in case Juventus not extend his contract), he must be able to accept this, as @hahay said, ronaldo price will go down, and his salary will definitely go down for financial reasons and age (for several clubs). As for footballers and super stars, it would be a shame if they retired early because clubs can't pay him.
4009  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FOOTBALL ⚽️ AFC - Asian Cup U23 - 2022 Qualifiers on: July 13, 2021, 04:33:13 PM
Only 4 best runner-up teams would pass to the group stage, I'm not sure what kind of method which used in order to determine those best runner-up teams whether there would be another match or choose it based on the team's performance in the qualifiers stage
Yes, thats what i mean, 1st postions and 4 from 2nd positions.


Seeing the current opponents, the pandemic situation we encountered, and the fact that Indonesia never passes to the group stage since 2013, like it or not we need a "miracle" as you said for that's become true, lol.
the chance to be qualified maybe 0,1% is good enough for Indonesia. haha,

I think the ASEAN representatives who might qualify are Thailand and Vietnam, because these two teams have shown very significant improvements in recent years and from the group side, they have a pretty good chance. Vietnam may be quite difficult compared to Thailand, but, the strength of Hong Kong and Taipei, I think is still on averages of Vietnam's ability.
4010  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: July 13, 2021, 09:51:36 AM
Anyway, Ronaldo's age is not young anymore for the criteria of a striker and even though there are clubs that want his services then I think Ronaldo's price has dropped so yes, it should be able to reduce expenses for the club as well. Forward players over the age of 35 will only be the recipient of the bait or a target and by doing so, it will be easy to turn off the movement. So yes, the era of Ronaldo and Messi will slowly be replaced too, considering also the age of both of them who have entered retirement which will only serve to motivate the team for younger players.
Age is not a reason for footballers. With their current age, Messi and Ronaldo are still young compared to Ibrahimovic, Pirlo and other veteran players who retired at an older age. However, all of them showed abilities that were not inferior to the young players. They can still bring their club to win the league. Indeed, their era will be replaced by other young players, but to say his performance has decreased, I don't think like that, because Ronaldo still become one of top goal scorer on EURO, Serie-A, so this can be a proof if his capability still can be hard for young players to stop him.
4011  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FOOTBALL ⚽️ AFC - Asian Cup U23 - 2022 Qualifiers on: July 13, 2021, 01:48:05 AM
Frankly, I am very pessimistic that Indonesia can go far in the AFC U23 competition in 2022, because if you look at the opponents that the Indonesian national team must face, it is certainly not an easy opponent, namely China, Australia and also Brunei Darussalam, and it can be said that maybe only the Australian and Brunei Darussalam national  team alone has never faced the Indonesian U23 national team so far, so they are a little blind to the strength of  Indonesian Team, but even so, maybe only Brunei Darussalam can be said if it is weaker than the Indonesian national team in group G, while China and Australia are two teams that have performed quite well so far in the AFC U23 competition and of course are strong opponents for Indonesia to compete pass the group phase later.

Yes, we can't expect much from Indonesia, because of the 4 teams that will qualify for the final round, only positions 1 & 2 will fill the slots. It seems that until October 2021 Indonesian players will have a shortage of training portions due to the COVID-19 pandemic, which is still high to this day. In fact, I am also not sure whether Indonesia will remain the host, or will it be moved, because Covid-19 seems difficult to end. from this condition, Indonesia may not be able to play optimally, and further increase the weakness of Indonesian players. Sure enough, Brunei could be better than Indonesia. But, I wish I'm wrong, I wish there will be a "miracle" for Indonesia to join final rounds.
4012  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Sadarlah, Orang Terkenal Bukan Untuk Kamu Jadikan Pegangan! on: July 13, 2021, 01:32:36 AM
Berikut ane lampirin link klarifikasi mereka terhadap isu negatif project nya. https://youtu.be/-YT-OYAjn2g

Terkait klarifikasi penguncian alokasi untuk developer nya ada di menit 13.10, mungkin agan bisa memastikan ulang pendengaran ane yang bisa saja salah. Untuk pernyataan rugpull adalah cara menipu yang legal setelah menekankan pendapat nitizen yang membully mereka ada di menit 13.48 an. Jadi apakah agan agan disini ada yang beli coin nya indra kusuma karya anak bangsa?

Saya juga sudah melihat dan memastikan bahwa memang mereka sudah mengatakan kalau token sudah dilock sama mereka, cuma memang yang menjadi masalah, di mana mereka mengunci aset tersebut. Saya mencari di Unicrypt dan Team.finance juga tidak ada yang dilock. Cuma divideo mereka bilang, "sudah di lock, dan silakan cek address apakah ada token yang keluar", saya jadi bingung juga apakah mereka pikir kalau ga ada token keluar = lock atau gimana ya.

Saya sendiri agak sedikit ragu sih harga bertahan di atas 1 dollar, karena melihat supplai dan juga usecasenya masih belum begitu jelas. Mungkin saya salah, tapi sejauh ini, hal tersebut masih membuat saya tidak berani untuk membeli. Bisa jadi harga diatas 1 dollar saat ini adalah harga pucuk. lagi pula, dari 1 - 550 address yang ada adalah pemegang dari wallet genesis (0xzero), dan nilainya sudah lebih dari 1 juta dollar dan rata-rata wallet tersebut, dan saya mengambil secara random, wallet dari genesis tersebut tidak memiliki transaksi lain, kecuali transfer in dari genesis, bukannya kalau ICO harusnya ada transfer out untuk pembelian atau saya yang salah  Grin
4013  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Sadarlah, Orang Terkenal Bukan Untuk Kamu Jadikan Pegangan! on: July 12, 2021, 12:19:21 PM
Kemarin ane liat di youtube Indra K, mengklarifikasi sentimen negatif dan konten negatif pada botXcoin. Dari sekian banyak dugaan buruk masyarakat, mereka tidak mengklarifikasi pembuatannya di singapura. Mereka bahkan mengatakan bahwa sudah me-lock 60% token milik developernya. Mereka mungkin tidak akan me rug pull hanya saja mengambil keuntungan secara legal wkwkww dengan menjual sesuai temponya. Di video nya juga bahkan mengatakan rug pull adalah cara yang legal.
Memang masih menjadi pertanyaan sih ini, di mana mereka mengunci 60% dari token dev. karena, saya mencoba untuk mengecek di twitter Botxcoin, belum menemukan (atau mungkin sudah tenggelam). Kalau dilihat dari telegramnya sih juga belum ada informasi lock alokasi untuk dev. Ini statement yang agak meragukan juga yang dilakukan oleh Indra kalau kaya begini.

hmm, kalau rug pull adalah cara legal, berarti ada niat untuk rug  donk???
4014  Economy / Gambling discussion / [DISCUSSION & PREDICTION] All Asian Football Confederation (AFC) Competition on: July 12, 2021, 12:02:41 PM
This thread will be used as a place to discuss all competitions conducted by the Asian Football Confederation (AFC), not limited to both the junior and senior teams. For the next competition, the U-23 Asian Cup which will take place in 2022. The following is a list of the participating teams/nations.


Source: https://twitter.com/afcasiancup/status/1413407232398663681

Competitions will start on Oct 23-31, 2021.

Group A:
  • Qatar (Host)
  • Australia
  • Yemen
  • Sri Lanka

Group B:
  • Tajikistan (Host)
  • Iran
  • Lebanon
  • Nepal

Group C:
  • Bahrain (Host)
  • Iraq
  • Afghanistan
  • Maldives

Group D:
  • Kuwait (Host)
  • Saudi Arabia
  • Bangladesh
  • Uzbekistan

Group E:
  • United Arab Emirates (Host)
  • Oman
  • India
  • Kyrgyzstan

Group F:
  • Jordan (Host)
  • Palestine
  • Turkmenistan

Group G:
  • Indonesia (Host)
  • Australia
  • China
  • Brunei Darussalam

Group H:
  • Singapore (Host)
  • South Korea
  • Timor Leste
  • Philippines

Group I:
  • China Taipei (Host)
  • Vietnam
  • Myanmar
  • Hong Kong

Group J:
  • Mongolia (Host)
  • Thailand
  • Malaysia
  • Laos


*Group K:
  • Cambodia
  • Japan
  • North Korea

Note *: The host has not been determined
4015  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: July 12, 2021, 07:51:10 AM

I've heard that Manchester Utd and PSG have been interested in him but haven't made any offer to him officially. AFAIK, his manager is trying to extend Ronaldo's contract to 2023. If he fails, then we may see Ronaldo at Manchester Utd or PSG in the next season, who knows?

I read about Ronaldo's agent want to continue to work with Juventus. But, if they are failed, so we can see another star players leave his club with free agent. This is certainly a loss for Juventus, they should be able to sell Ronaldo at a fairly high price, but due to the condition of almost all clubs experiencing financial problems after Covid-19, it seems that selling Ronaldo and extending Ronaldo's contract will be difficult.

4016  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: July 12, 2021, 07:11:21 AM
Klo menurut prediksiku, harga bottom Bitcoin (pasca ATH baru) akan berada di level $10000 s/d $15000, tapi kondisi ini tidak akan terjadi dalam waktu dekat (tebakanku akan terjadi pada akhir tahun 2021) karena untuk saat ini level harga $30000 masih menjadi level resistance yang kuat (masih akan terjadi re-test dan kembali reversal beberapa kali karena adanya koreksi harga).

Jadi, kita memiliki pemikiran yang sedikit mirip, karena jika skenario terburuk terjadi, maka Bitcoin kehilangan support terkuat yang saat ini masih sering disentuh. dan seingat saya, level 25K-30K adalah periode bullish BTC yang organik, (tidak ada embel-embel dari elon sebelumnya). Saya juga tidak bepikir kalau akan terjadi pada tahun 2021 ini, karena pada periode sebelumnya, BTC menyentuh titik terendah juga pada awal tahun 2019, jadi, jika BTC ini terus downtrend, maka bisa jadi dipnya pada 2022 atau 2023.

kalau saya analisa sih, tahun ini mungkin sama dengan 2013 kemungkinan btc membentuk new ATH di akhir tahun ini. Pada titik harga tertinggi tersebut baru bisa mengetahui harga terdalam di tahun 2022-2023. Apakah ada harga baru $100k atau lebih?. kalau ada ATH baru akhir tahun ini, kemungkinan titik terdalam untuk 4 tahun ke depan tidak jauh-jauh dari harga sekarang $30k-40k.

Kalau tren bullish berlanjut, setelah koreksi ini, bisa jadi juga sih posisi terendah pada 20-30K pasca ATH, asalkan tidak ada lagi skema pump dan kenaikan lebih menyerupai kenaikan organik, mirip awal-awal bullish setelah covid-19.
4017  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽UEFA EURO 2020 Discussion Thread | Current Phase: Finals in June 2021! on: July 12, 2021, 07:01:35 AM
First of all congratulations to Italy for winning the Euro cup for the second time in their history.The biggest mistake was from the manager of England leaving the last penalty to a really young player.I think that he will have trouble now for the rest of his life when shooting a penalty as I think he will always remember this fail in the final.I can say that Italy deserved it more because had to fight against stronger teams like Belgium and Spain while England the only strong team they faced were Germany but Germany was really weak during this Euro cup.

Thats true, if his mind wasn't strong enough, he would remember this as the most painful incident of his career. Even some veteran and retired players there are also have same conditions with him, even on national team or club. The results of the Italian champions were also a perfect results, because since the group phase, Italy had never lost until they became champions.

4018  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Dogy dan Sejenisnya (Meme), New Trend Setelah Defi? on: July 11, 2021, 01:21:25 PM
Hype token meme berangsur-angsur mereda, kini token meme tidak lagi menarik. Terlebih lagi dengan banyaknya token meme yang berujung pada nyangkut di kasta tertinggi  Grin. Mungkin, dengan naiknya Axie, sepertinya hype baru akan berada pada model proyek yang mirip dengan proyek ini. Kita lihat saja dalam beberapa bulan ke depan  Grin
4019  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: July 11, 2021, 12:45:22 PM
Berapakah kira-kira zona terdalam koreksi Bitcoin hingga 4 tahun ke depan?
Ini menjadi pertanyaan saya akhir-akhir ini. Karena, dalam sejarah Bitcoin, setelah ATH seperti kembali pada posisi paling dalam. Untuk harga 25-30K, apakah ini sudah harga bitcoin terdalam setelah ATH? Saya rasa masih belum, Saya tidak mengikuti BTC sebelum 2017, jadi saya hanya mengikuti arah tren saat itu saja. Jika mengikuti tren saat itu, posisi BTC terendah sekitar $3000, dari ATH 19K. jika dilihat dari posisi tersebut, asumsi saya, dalam 4 tahun ke depan ini, BTC masih sangat mungkin untuk menyentuh kisaran 10-19K, baru kemudian pasca halving, ada kemungkinan BTC bisa kembali naik menuju ATH baru.
-kira?

* apa yang saya sampaikan di atas merupakan spekulasi semata, tanpa analisa baik fundamental maupun teknikal
4020  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [CONMEBOL] Copa America 2021 Discussion Thread on: July 11, 2021, 02:11:10 AM
Argentina Wins the Copa America 2021

What a moment for Argentina and for the legend Messi. Truly deserved to be the champions.

This is the first trophy for Messi in the national team. A very good result for Messi after his long waiting to help his country win a trophy. With this result, at least Messi will probably get a new club soon after leaving Barcelona.

Congratulations for Argentina & Messi


source: https://giphy.com/gifs/beinsports-argentina-messi-l0IsHIEqZbGMPEdbO
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