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4021  Other / Serious discussion / Wanna buy yerself the Amazon Forest, just use Facebook on: February 26, 2021, 08:27:44 PM
Apparently, parcels in Brazilian Amazonia are now for sale.. on Facebook ads. The largest are several futbol fields in size. This has been pointed out by some local leaders that actually live on those parcels in the State of Rondia, well deep into the continent

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"One man, called Alvim Souza Alves, was trying to sell a plot inside the Uru Eu Wau Wau indigenous reserve for about £16,400 in local currency.

It is the home to a community of more than 200 Uru Eu Wau Wau people. And at least five further groups that have had no contact with the outside world also live there, according to the Brazilian government."

I wonder how do they target the audience? Perhaps people who search for "destroying Earth" o "I hate trees" o "kill legally"?

4022  Economy / Economics / Re: Coinbase valued at nearly 77 Billion in private markets on: February 26, 2021, 05:26:12 PM
I don't understand why you opened a new thread on the same topic - couldn't this news just be added to the existing discussion? -> Coinbase has filled for going public.

The reason is that I am discussing valuation on this one. I know that for you strategy and valuation may be the same thing, but for me they are not. You will notice that comments are quite different.
4023  Economy / Economics / Re: Coinbase has filled for going public on: February 26, 2021, 01:03:21 PM
Moreover I see this as an indirect crypto investment.
I don't any more than I see buying Amazon stock as indirectly investing in Nike (or anything they sell).

It is indeed interesting news, however--and I'm taking OP at his word that it's true since I haven't verified it.  I don't think there are any other publicly-traded exchanges of any type, or at least I can't think of any.  As far as whether their stock is worth investing in, it depends on how profitable they are.  I've never seen any reports about that (not surprising since they never had to file any such reports), but I bet they make a pretty decent chunk of change unless they somehow have a lot of overhead.  

This will definitely be a stock that I'll put on my watch list once they finally get listed.  Betcha there'll be a ton of buying on IPO day.

What's interesting is that
a) They are not conducting a IPO<snip>
No?  I thought when you get listed on a stock exchange, the initial stock sold to the public is the IPO.

I read it in a couple of outlets.

I think that, strategically, Coinbase is making a move towards a) assuring the big investment firms that they are a serious and fully compliant company and b) protecting themselves, in the sense that it is much more difficult to ban or act against a company once some large investors have a stake on it.

In terms of profitability, Coinbase business revenue is based on fees for trading, thus they intend to catch the tailwinds of a progressive increase in criptocurrency trading during the next few years. People should understand this if they intend to invest: You are NOT buying a bitcoin derivative, but a derivate of the volume of bitcoin (and other) trading.

Now that I think about it, it could even be a hedge against a unlikely takeover of bitcoin´s dominance by some other crypto asset.

They have effective filled to conduct their IPO, date to be set.
4024  Other / Serious discussion / Are Bill Gates comment to blame for BTC price instability these days on: February 26, 2021, 12:37:02 PM
Bill Gates showed a dislike for purchasing bitcoin based on the same arguments that Warren Buffet uses: They invest in companies that manufacture products. Which is a curious thing to say when Microsoft basically sells services, but anyway, is this enough to turn the BTC shorterm?

I think that Microsoft is loosing the train once again and that it will take them quite a bit to come back, which they will. I guess that on the end, they are a Dow Jones company and not a NASDAQ one.
4025  Economy / Economics / Coinbase valued at nearly 77 Billion in private markets on: February 26, 2021, 12:15:50 PM
As many know, Coinbase has filed for an IPO date to be decided. Currently it is accessible only for large clients on NASDAQ private market. The current valuation for Coinbase is around 77 Billion, and it is not the biggest player there. If it were to succeed, it could bring other exchanges into the public offerings games.

Article here.
4026  Other / Serious discussion / Re: Will the bitcoin ecosys benefit of a fully regulated and public Coinbase? on: February 26, 2021, 12:03:41 PM
Well, I think it may benefit to some extent but I don't think it's going to be very significant either. Paypal allowing their users to buy Bitcoin and Mush buying Bitcoin for Tesla I think have been much more significant than this could be.


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but apart from that. i think it will just be a 'famous for 5 minutes' media speculation at IPO day

Big corporate clients would be willing to enter the ecosystem if there were sufficiently assured. They are not going to use Paypal, but they can use a large exchange that is focusing its efforts on providing that assurance and developing products that aim for the large clients. This is the point of interest on Coinbase taking further steps to comply with regulations, including those for public companies, which are particularly demanding.

Coinbase is following a very solid strategy for a long period of time and I think is going to work in favour of the ecosystem in a greater measure that those 5 minutes - which will be there of course.
4027  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: My Football Gambling System: A Betting Experiment on: February 26, 2021, 10:35:35 AM
The basis of the system is a martingale which is not a good start at all. It could potentially work if you can slightly change the odds in your favor by means of a superior knowledge of the sport or teams, in which case you would not need to apply a martingale anyway.

This sound like a loosing system, although you were lucky.
4028  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin can't be used for transactions? on: February 26, 2021, 10:10:11 AM
From what I've read, Bitcoin now charges high transaction fee and long transaction wait time so it can't presently be used:

a) for a conversion from Bitcoin to cash?
or b) purchases using Bitcoin? Huh

It helps to think as it a gold, you can potentially use it for transactions, at least in Utah Smiley, but it does not make much sense to do so unless it is a large amount.

It also helps to think of it as diamonds in times of war. You have your keys, you can carry them around, you do not depend on a bank or a state to back it... just consider that you were a doctor in Siria 5 years ago. You have some bitcoin - even on a exchange. You leave your country with your family and whatever you can carry in your car. The mafias strip you of whatever money you have on you and you manage to get to e.g. Germany. If you want to survive now you need either diamonds, which could have been stolen from you at this point, or you keys.
4029  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Circle of Competence on: February 26, 2021, 10:02:35 AM
This concept was popularised by Warren Buffet and Charlie Munger. Each person has area of thing "they know", e.g. if you work in computing you will know ´bout programming, networks, systems and the like.

In investment, the rule is "stick to your circle of competence", just do not invest in things you do not understand.

Linked to this is the Dunning-Kruger effect - when you thing you know something and you have understood a problem, but you really have no idea.

Is bitcoin in your circle of competence or are you Dunnin-Krugering around?
4030  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The gambling black market thrives in Britain on: February 25, 2021, 10:47:38 PM
I think Europe and UK should be making an effort to surface all hidden betting. It is going to happen anyway and taxes would be welcome by the current COVID stricken economy.
4031  Local / Español (Spanish) / Re: No esperes que otras grandes empresas sigan la decisión de Tesla de comprar BTC on: February 25, 2021, 10:26:43 PM
Ya lo he mencionado en otras ocasiones, pero JP Morgan hará lo q los clientes de JP Morgan le pidan. Por ahora están investigando como funciona realmente el mercado de bitcoin y con lo primero q se han encontrado es con Bitfinex y el Tether. Los reyes de la manipulación del mercado son perros muy viejos.
4032  Local / Español (Spanish) / Re: ¿Larry Ellison, fundador de Oracle, comprará Bitcoin? on: February 25, 2021, 10:22:47 PM
...

Oracle no suena mal tampoco (aunque no me queda claro si el rumor es nominal, corporativo o ambos)...


No todas las empresas son iguales, algunas son como iconos de la era y sus CEOs tienen seguidores y notoriedad. No es lo mismo q compre Oracle q si lo hace Ferrovial. A ver q tal se da.
4033  Other / Serious discussion / Re: Do you expect/want to make a lot of money without much effort? on: February 25, 2021, 09:40:52 PM
Warren Buffet was once asked something like If earning money with Berkshire Hattway (his company) is so easy, why do you think that so many people loose money on stocks, his answer was "because nobody wants to become rich slowly".

disclaimer: not financial advise, I am long BRSK.

For me is too late to become rich without much effort, I have already done too much effort in my life.
4034  Other / Serious discussion / Re: How do you predict the market? on: February 25, 2021, 09:29:59 PM
your endless thinking about 'btc prices grow indefinitely' makes me think your only thinking about ATH


Not about ATH, am I just saying that your system works while the price goes up in the long term. That has been the case until now, but that does not mean it will be like that forever.
4035  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 25, 2021, 09:17:22 PM
However, where is hyperinflation in Japan that started supporting market with printed money at least since 1992-1993 (3-4 years after their 'bubble' started collapsing)?
As long as money velocity stays low, we will not have high inflation.

Look Biodom, I've seen you make this statement more than once on this thread.

Respectfully, you're wrong.

https://www.shadowstats.com

https://chapwoodindex.com/

The way the Fed calculates CPI is just complete bullshit. It's a fraud.

Well, there is no inflation in Japan, that's all i was talking about.
I would not argue with an opinion that inflation in US is much higher than the official number. You are absolutely right.
However, wage inflation is low-that's a fact, and that is the whole underlying theme that is supporting discontent.
Since actual inflation is higher than wage inflation, the living conditions for an average Joe are going down even with their salary raises.

The only way to escape this was to own assets in the last 20-30 years.
Realistically, inflation is probably about 10 maybe 15% (yearly). You have to beat that.
All I am getting at-you have to be invested (stock market, RE, bitcoin) to have a chance.
When wage inflation would go up-then we would have SERIOUS inflation.

 You can look at the basket of goods and their weighting for the CPI in Canada.  If you want, you can customise it for your personal use as well but I think it's pretty all-encompassing.  Gasoline here has gone up $0.11 per liter in the last couple of weeks from $1.03 so if you're an Uber driver, your perception of inflation is going to be a bit skewed.  Overall, I think it's a pretty good determination -

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1/en/tv.action?pid=1810026401

 It even takes into account the cost of our recreational cannabis  Cool

  

bought canadian pot stocks the day the vote went for B.
They are up 100-200% since  Grin

 Nice!  I waited too long.  I wonder when Biden makes it legal in all of USA?
 

Perhaps it will happen the same thing as with gambling... state by state they will all approve and make America High Again. (AHA)

4036  Other / Serious discussion / Re: New regulations in Australia affect Google, Facebook and the like on: February 25, 2021, 09:03:46 PM
If I am not wrong, google is the company who said they will stop their services in Australia if such law passed, but now they accepted it and making money with the partnership?

Facebook has reached and agreement with the Murdoch Group and there will be many others. While Australia gets away with the tax, Facebook has used the opportunity to enhance its competitive "moat" by reaching agreements that will keep away possible small challengers. It will only benefit the big on the end.
4037  Other / Serious discussion / Will the bitcoin ecosys benefit of a fully regulated and public Coinbase? on: February 25, 2021, 06:39:42 PM
Hi, just in case someone does not know yet, Coinbase is going public. See an article here for more stuff.

I think that the BTC environment will benefit, as I mentioned in a post in Economy, but I think is worth a Serious Discussion one to see what people think
4038  Economy / Economics / Coinbase has filled for going public on: February 25, 2021, 06:34:36 PM
Coinbase has filled the paperwork to become a publicly traded company. Contrary to other exchanges, that operate with a certain secrecy even "in the dark", Coinbase had followed a compliance strategy focused on gaining the trust of the traditional finance world that allows the company to now file to go public. This paves the way further for the institutional money to enter the BTC world.

Edited to add link as per some user´s request.
4039  Economy / Economics / Re: Facebook agrees to makes payments to Australia on: February 25, 2021, 01:32:04 PM
I hope the small outlets get a good funding out of this and the old/bad ones crash and burn if it comes to Europe.
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That would be good, however most legislation that looks like would damage the incumbents (Facebook, Google, big media,...) actually has the oposite effect: raising the barriers to entry of the smaller companies.
4040  Economy / Economics / Re: Institutional investors are buying Bitcoin's future... How do we stop this? on: February 25, 2021, 01:17:35 PM
We can´t and we should not. There are many people that are not familiar with bitcoin yet they can participate from the ecosystem by using funds and such. I would not even consider doing that myself, since to all risks involved I would also be adding the agency risk (the change of the agent going down or robbing), but there are many who will join the ecosystem and that will benefit us all.
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