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4021  Economy / Reputation / Re: Livecoin participants should be tag? on: July 20, 2019, 07:56:50 PM
I was about to delete my application there but unfortunately, the thread was locked yesterday will have to wait a week before it gets unlocked.
Why would anyone believe you now? Do you believe in your own words?

I would because I see this when I try to remove my post with application. I told you already a few times not everybody is lying here.



This message in the screen is not fully true I can't even edit this post to "delete" or something.

thanks @wwzsocki for correcting me, I forget that it is impossible to remove post within 24 hours.

No problem always here to help you. Don't know will check after 24hours and let you know if you wish?
4022  Local / Polski / Re: Pospekulujmy o aktualnej i przyszłej cenie BTC. on: July 20, 2019, 05:45:53 PM
BTC prze do przodu pomimo wszystko. Czy mamy sznsę przebić opór na 10.800$ i w końcu wystartować tak jak GOLD?



StochRSI wygląda apetycznie ale ten indykator potrafi zmienić wartość bardzo szybko dlatego wspieram się RSI, którego akurat nie widać na tym wykresie ale zapewniam, że też jest na średinch poziomach, mocno kerując sie ku górze, co daje kolejny sygnał BUY i potwierdzenie dla StochRSI.
4023  Local / Polski / Re: Signature campaing - regularnie płatne pewniaki on: July 20, 2019, 05:23:56 PM
...@wwzsocki co zamierzacie zrobić? Pytam z czystej ciekawości.

No mam problem.

Znacie moje zdanie na temat tej kampanii, giełdy Livecoin i całego zamieszania. Dodatkowo jakimś cudem przyjął mnie ten nowy menedżer do kampanii i to dosłownie kilka minut po aplikacji. Zaaplikowałem zaraz po przeczytaniu w wątku o wolnych miejscach, a to i tak juz było późno, bo dopiero na drugi dzień i byłem ostatni, na czwartej stronie, a przede mną dużo mocnych uzytkowników, dodatkowo kilkunastu było, juz wybranych na liście. Byłem pewien, że nic z tego, a tu bum.

Grozi mi nie tylko bycie na liście u Yahoo ale i całej reszty menedżerów i to nie pozostawia mi innego wyjścia jak zrezygnować, chyba.

Jeżeli to by miał być tylko Yahoo, to nawet bym się nie zastanawiał i został w kampanii, bo od 6 lat próbuje się dostać do jego kampanii i nigdy nie trafiłem nawet do finałowej puli. Tylko raz miałem przyjemność uczestniczyć w zwykłym bounty, z którego sam zrezygnowałem przed czasem.

Tak naprawdę Livecoin, to moja pierwsz lepiej płatna kampania w BTC z sygnaturek. Przez tyle lat nigdy mi się to nie udawało, a próbowałem praktycznie zawsze kiedy było wolne miejsce.
Może być tak, że ta kampania będzie trwać bardzo długo, bo rozmawiałem z tym mebedżerem i mówił, że wogóle nie mają zamiaru jej kończyć i nigdy nie mieli. Sam nie wiem, prześpie się z tym.

Dobrze, że BTC idzie do góry, wtedy najgorsze wiadomości jakość lżej przełknąć, jak na koncie rośnie równo z zielonymi dildosami na czartach  Grin.

4024  Economy / Reputation / Re: Livecoin participants should be tag? on: July 20, 2019, 04:53:45 PM
I have built and fight for my account too long to lost it because of a signature campaign. If there will be no agreement on the forum I will quit the campaign.

And that is why I want to apply here to every member, to hold a little with all these tags and lists of death until we are talking here. Take into consideration that the Livecoin thread is closed.

Nobody got paid even a cent so far and there are many members, like me, which expected this discussion and participated in the first edition.

If participants of campaign would be still intimidated and more sort of ultimatum will be given to us, unfortunately, I will have to give in to these pressures and end campaign despite my own thoughts.

4025  Economy / Reputation / Re: Livecoin participants should be tag? on: July 20, 2019, 04:06:12 PM
I'm a bit confused as to how much of a scam exchange Livecoin is...

I can only answer from my perspective.

As I said, already use them many years and never was in need to contact support. You are right and Livecoin is on the same level as Yobit, HitBtc, Nova, CoinExchange, (Cryptopia) or any other exchange like this mentioned. One just needs to know how to use them and read the TOS before registering. No red flags will save them if they don't do the homework in the first place.

This case against Livecoin is not an obvious case where a deposit is missing or withdrawal is not paid. This would be an obvious scam and only if repeated a couple of times.
Taking into consideration how many clients they have, support issues will happen and this is something which could be expected on every exchange, even the best one.

All exchanges have such Terms of Service. Better or worse, they are hidden between complex industry specificities, to mislead users or put there in the hope, that they will not understand it completely or never read it in the first place. Livecoin TOS are there from the very beginning and to bring them now, to the light is like a fall start in the sport. A very long one, because took a few years to find it, which proves that indeed nobody reads these rules before registering.

I don't see any other scammed members in this accusation thread against Livecoin, which is very rare and weird. Taking into consideration, how many people are scammed because of exchanges.
We can assume, that this accusation thread caught attention from the entire forum and all interested members have already seen it, so why are they not complaining also?

Despite, how shady and not moral this TOS are for many DT1, they are there from the beginning and one has, to agree with them after reading. I have read these terms and there is nothing more as an exception to close an account when one will spread support information or any other false information against the exchange. Not so hard to do it if you know about it. To accuse now Livecoin, that they use it against OP is not appropriate, because OP was warned multiple times, proven to be lying about the exchange and even admit it publicly.

Livecoin exchange is the high-risk crypto exchange but is not a scam so far. No more or less, like any other even more reputable exchange.
4026  Economy / Reputation / Re: Livecoin participants should be tag? on: July 20, 2019, 03:00:05 PM
I use Livecoin exchange from the start frequently and never had a single problem. I know, they can not be trusted, but not more or less, as any other not regulated crypto exchange with no legal entity or registered in some tax heavens. I use Livecoin exchange, but never hold anything there - NOT YOUR KEYS NOT YOUR MONEY! Never send my full stack in one deposit and do larger amounts in small batches, deposit - sold/buy - withdraw, next batch. Of course, it cost me time, money, is annoying and not suited for many other traders, but is the only way to be safe and cut the losses, to the minimum on these exchanges.

Participated in the first campaign and don't see a reason why should I not advertise them further? Because of one scam accusation?

I was against ending the first campaign and to call them a scam if thousands of other people use this exchange with no problems every day. This scam accusation is very complicated and should be rather seen as a support issue and not a scam in the first place. We all know it was all done for a purpose and now is the next part of the drama.

There will be no other way as to stop all campaigns on the forum if this will go further because almost everything what is advertised here is to some extent not legal or finally turned out a scam.
OP mentioned already a few campaigns actually active and there are scam accusations against them.

How can Livecoin by judged so badly when there is only one accusation on Bitcointalk forum and no other victim so far?
This case is a really hard one, were the exchange keep providing answers from two years. The accuser is also not without a fault and to blame. Is obvious that he was lying a couple of times and spreading false information about the exchange and admitted it.

Just take a look at the whole picture and take into consideration all other campaigns which are running and there are multiple scam accusations against them. I was able to find scam accusations against all exchanges from the first 10 on Coinmarketcap. Checked also few gambling services actually advertised here on Bitcointalk in signatures and also there are many scam and other accusations. Some already resolved and many are not. Don't mention Cheapmixer which is totally not legal and will be closed as soon as they catch them, we have already seen this happening with many other mixers and last time was Bestmixer also advertised on the forum.

What effect do we have so far with all these flags against Livecoin and this new account? Is there anybody saved from using this exchange and not scammed? Or maybe something has changed and the accuser got the money back and TOS will be adjusted? NO!

The only outcome was that many members lost their spot in the campaign, Hhampuz a job and now it goes even further because we are already on the Yahoo blacklist and maybe 30 more members will be tagged for nothing. Disaster keeps spreading like a wave and nobody see it. This will end that all campaigns will be banned from the forum.
4027  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 20, 2019, 03:43:03 AM
Uh no, 100% wrong.  Bitcoin in functionality is essentially an energy virus with the amount of energy expended being used in an attempt to create a pseudo price floor.  The price always trends downwards to this cost of production floor so for the price of Bitcoin to currently be $100k, the amount of mining and energy used right now would need to be something like 30x higher than it currently is.  

I'm not going to bother to calculate how much energy used in sunk cost fallacy that is, but it's probably more than the energy used by every nation on the entire planet combined.  Mining capex charts also have the appearance of a thrown baseball at the top of it's arc with nowhere to go but down or sideways at best.

Even if then there are developers and will do something to adjust the mining difficulty or even the mining algorithm. BTC is still in development and always will be. That is why is unstoppable because can be adjusted and tweaked if problems occur. If you would tell me back in 2009 that in 2017 BTC would be at 20.000$ I would never believe, despite I am big BTC enthusiast from the moment I first read about it. So I can understand you and why this is so hard to believe that BTC would be worth a million in a few years.

When I read your posts I don't understand your attitude. Why are you so angry on all of us BTC believers?

Nobody is encouraging anybody to buy BTC in this thread. Just a group of BTC fans try to hang together and talk about BTC. Only haters come and start to talk trash about us and BTC.
Maybe heaters like you should open a new thread were you will be able to discuss what you want about BTC.

Why come here over and over again only to trow few epithets and accusations against the hall BTC movement?

Try to be reasonable and avoid attacks and maybe then there will be a chance for a productive discussion. Otherwise, I do not know why you even start when is obvious that nobody here takes you seriously.
4028  Local / Polski / Re: Pospekulujmy o aktualnej i przyszłej cenie BTC. on: July 20, 2019, 01:59:28 AM
Jeżeli naprawdę BTC jest jak złoto a na to wyglądajeżeli spojrzymy na ich wykresy.

Jeżeli się potwierdzi to twierdzenie a przecież BTC do internetowe złorto i możemy się spodziewać czegoś takiego za parę tygodni.



Miejmy nadzieję, że to prawda, a na to wygląda, bo jak narazie wykresy złota i BTC są identyczne. A nie wiem czy Wiecie, że złoto znowu wystrzeliło do góry?

4029  Local / Polski / Re: Signature campaing - regularnie płatne pewniaki on: July 20, 2019, 01:45:44 AM
Manager: LiveCoin Manager
Nazwa kampanii: [OPEN]LiveCoin.Net Signature Campaign | Hero/Legendary Members | Weekly Payments
Ile do zarobienia/tydzień / ilość postów:  Minimum 8 & Maximum 50 postów/tydzień 0.0003 lub 0.00035 BTC/post
Jakie rangi: Hero/Legendary Members  .
Dodatkowe informacje: Znowu ruszyła kampania Livecoin z takimi samymi stawkami i regułami jeżeli chodzi o ilość postów. Proszę to jeszcze dokładnie sprawdzić, bo piszę zaraz jak się dowiedziałem i nie dokońca spradziłem. Uwaga mendżer już dostał czerwona flagę!!!
4030  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 19, 2019, 10:57:51 PM
If there is really a true connection between Gold and BTC price, then this is what could be expected in coming weeks  Grin Grin Grin.



Will BTC break this 10800$ level and shoot to the stratosphere like gold? What do you think WO thread readers? Are bulls strong enough to fight with bears and latest market manipulation?
4031  Other / Archival / Re: My Bitcointalk Forum, BTC Story. on: July 19, 2019, 09:50:55 PM
...My story is absolutely boring compared to OP's, but I thought I'd just share it.  I was not an early adopter or a believer in it from the start--bitcoin kind of won me over as time passed.  Aside from not keeping my early purchases, I've no regrets about getting into crypto.  I don't write about my feelings on bitcoin and crypto much, but I'm a true supporter now.

Your story is not boring at all. Is just an honest story and thank you very much for sharing it. Maybe this will encourage other members to this same.
They maybe think, just like you, that they have a boring story and nothing to say, but this is not true as we see.
Every member of this forum has his own BTC and Bitcointalk forum story and I will be very happy to read all of them. Merits are waiting for the best stories!!!

...Our paths don't cross much on the forum, but I was familiar with your name and never realized you'd been into bitcoin for so long...

This is true we haven't interacted together on the forum but maybe it would change in the future, I hope so. I am in Bitcoin almost from the start and after my first contact with BTC, I knew it would be something which would change the world. I just knew is the missing part of the internet. This is so funny that back in 2011 nobody wanted to listen about BTC and everybody had the exact same opinion as yours that this is a scam. This shows me clearly that from the start there were two groups of people. The first one the believers like me which after the first look at BTC, knew that this is something big, despite didn't understand the tech behind it fully also and had a lot of questions about it. Second group disbelievers which from the start treat BTC as a scam because there is too much fraud in the internet world. Some of them during the time get to know BTC better and joined the believers' club forces. Just like you @The Pharmacist.

...I started earning dust through faucets (there was one called Land of Bitcoins IIRC)...

Of course, I have used both of these faucets and even Freebitco.in I use to this day and have plenty of refs there, thanks to my signature. Today is not working so good because everybody already is familiar with this faucet, but back then I got hundreds of them every week. That was the time when I realized how strong such a signature is and how good ref links works on the forums. TBH back then faucets were paying a lot more like dust. I knew faucets which paid 0.5BTC just for signing up  Grin. I like sometimes take a look at my BTC wallets history and my old transactions. Just yesterday I remind myself looking at my old transactions that I have won 3.5BTC in https://peerbet.org/. That was a raffle service back then where you put provably fair bets against each other. If I would only hold to this money it would be whooping 80.000$ if sold on ATH. I remember, I sold it only for 900$ and that was luckily my last transaction at Mr.Gox because the next day was hacked.

...I have Off-Topic on ignore since I never post there and from what I've heard it's a mess...

Exactly, despite there are more posts as in meta this section is a mess and a pure spam contest with no real activity. Even if somebody post there something never follow it further.
No real activity and real committed readers of that section. I would have nothing against off-topic but activity in this thread just died there.
4032  Economy / Digital goods / Re: delete on: July 19, 2019, 04:43:38 PM
Does this newbie want to sell superscript which makes me millions only for 30$? Of course, I want to buy! I always knew there is an easy way to get rich  Grin.

But actually, I am broke (no luck with bets) and want to ask OP, to credit me with this 30$ (no collateral  Grin).

Just sent me this script and I will pay back 30$ just after my first winnings. As you know OP it will take only half an hour.

Of course, I will write a full and honest review just after I make a few thousands of dollars in winnings.
4033  Other / Archival / Re: My Bitcointalk Forum, BTC Story. on: July 19, 2019, 04:19:15 PM
I keep wondering why this thread was moved to off-topic section?

There are so many threads like this one in meta section and I see them there for a very long time and never moved.

I would do nothing but there are plenty of such stories about self-made senior, hero or legendary members and they are not removed from meta.

Why my thread is different and constantly moved to the off-topic section where is no activity at all?

4034  Other / Meta / Re: 278 profiles merited (by me) in 30 minutes – What’s got over me? (v 2.0) on: July 19, 2019, 03:56:27 PM
I wish I have such problems as too many smerits  Grin.

Never happened to me, because I created some time ago a list of posts which I want to merit and is growing a lot faster as incoming merits.

Taking into consideration, that I awarded almost every post with only one merit, this OP strategy would be fully applicable, but I am not so good in hoarding merits, as a majority of members in this thread. Despite, I am in the 100 most merited club.

I think there are so many valuable posts on the forum, that there is just no need to go back, to previous awarded posts and merit them again.

Of course, different members have different reasons behind meriting this same posts a couple of times and are free to do what they wish, but taking into consideration, how many high-quality posts are still not merited, I would rather vouch for a different approach.

There are already special threads, were merit sources and other members are able to find not merited posts and members. Maybe this is a good place for search if one has a couple of merits to give away.

I have seen a great thread from Suchmoon lately, Users that you should merit. In this thread, every member can ask for a detailed list of his not merited or rarely merited members.

This thread is a great place to check if there are problems with too many smerits to give away in a short period of time.



4035  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 19, 2019, 09:21:03 AM


Quote
#bitcoin 2012 Stock-to-flow model still works!

From what I see this graph shows only 8000$ at the end of 2017 when there was already a 20000$ price. Today if I can see correctly this should be already around 25 - 30K USD for single BTC.

Still, it could be a good prediction in a very long term, which is a million $$$ for single BTC in the 2025 year and if one doesn't look too much into details.
4036  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 19, 2019, 07:22:42 AM
The majority of traders I know use Golden Cross and Death Cross to refer to 50 and 200 SMA crossovers on the daily chart, with confirmation following on the 3 day chart. On the BTC/USD daily we had a Golden Cross back on April 23. On the three day we are close to getting confirmation, not there yet though. You can look at lower time frames sure if you are a day trader but you will be getting a better signal to noise ratio on daily and 3 day charts. We briefly dipped below the 50 SMA on the daily but are now back above.

You are right but not fully. I try always to inform exactly about which time intervals on the chart, I am talking about.



https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/deathcross.asp

As you see, there are some variations in opinions as to precisely what constitutes this moving averages crossover.
Depends on the individual trader, how he will interpret them. Of course on a weekly, 3 days or even daily, Death Cross signal is stronger as on 4 hours or hourly chart.
4037  Local / Polski / Re: Garść statystyk dotyczących sytemu Meritów z naszego lokalnego subforum... on: July 19, 2019, 07:13:57 AM
Właśnie zauważyłem że jeden z naszych lokalsów cichaczem zakradł się do pierwszej setki najbardziej zmeritowanych użytkowników bitcointalk:

GRATULACJE @WWZSOCKI !!!!!

Dziękuję bardzo.

Chcę tylko przypomnieć, że mamy już od dawna jednego lokalsa w tym prominentym klubie, a jest nim:



Gratuluję Bitcryptex, spóźnione ale prawdziwe.
4038  Local / Polski / Re: Pospekulujmy o aktualnej i przyszłej cenie BTC. on: July 18, 2019, 03:56:21 PM
Myślę że takie newsy jak ten mogą byc dobre dla BTC. Może ta dzisiejsza pompa, to właśnie przez to. Sami zobaczcie!!!

Amerykański kongresmen mówi na walnym zgromadzeniu, że BTC jest nie do zatrzymania "An Unstoppable Force."

https://twitter.com/i/status/1151602053405450240

BTC TO THE MOON!!!
4039  Local / Alternatywne kryptowaluty / Re: Spekulacja na newsach alt/btc on: July 18, 2019, 03:46:27 PM
...nie jest to inwestycja a zagrywka w jednorękiego bandytę...

No i chyba podsumowałeś bardzo trafnie. Patrząc co się aktualnie dzieje na rynku BTC zaczynam się bać stawiać jakiekolwiek zakłady. Albo pelna manipulacja, albo jakiś byk na sterydach, chce ratować cenę BTC ale raczej to pierwsze.

Zupełna manipulacja rynku, żeby zamknąć oczywiste shorty, których musi być masa, biorąc pod uwagę wszystkie znaki od indykatorów, a także, jeżeli chodzi o TA. Jest masę botów i skądś biorą te sygnały. Większość z nich bazuje na TA i indykatorach. Nie może być inaczej.

Jeżeli chodzi o większość tych altów, które wymieniłem, to chodzi mi o czystą spekulacje. Wejść, poczekać do końca pompy i wyjśc z jak najlepszym zyskiem.
Tylko Zilliga, to taki alt, który może jeszcze odbić, wystarczy jakiś duży inwestor, a powinni się znależć, jak było ich tylu wcześniej. Szczególnie, jeżeli projekt się rozwija.
4040  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 18, 2019, 03:26:09 PM
[price analysis]
Enjoyed your post but I’m out of sMerits  Undecided
I also favour a scenario of increased price weakness in the medium term without the bullish scenario in the larger time frame suffering. The better the build up towards the halvening, the stronger the push towards new ATHs.

As we see, bulls are in action and try to change the BTC price course. If this will continue and is not only a big BTC market manipulation, to close all short trades, then this could be a first time in history, I assume, that from a Death Cross, bulls would make a Gold Cross  Grin.



I think this is only big market manipulation and as fast, as price bounced up, will go down, but let's wait and see. I hope, I am wrong and bulls will be buying, insane amounts of BTC and we go to ATH in a few days  Cool.
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