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4021  Economy / Speculation / Re: China is not participating in this "Dead Cat Bounce" on: November 21, 2013, 04:30:15 AM
The amount of btc in buy orders on btcchina has nearly doubled in two days. The same thing has happened on other exchanges. Bitstamp went from 7 million dollars to 14 million dollars. btce went from 3.5 million dollars to 6.5 million dollars. Gox is now sitting at 29 million dollars (from 27). Any kind of crash would be met with massive support and not go very deep.
4022  Economy / Speculation / Re: China is not participating in this "Dead Cat Bounce" on: November 21, 2013, 04:14:36 AM
China is participating in their own way:



This number has nearly doubled since the crash.
4023  Economy / Speculation / Re: Whats your crash-comming-panic-sell number? on: November 21, 2013, 04:07:17 AM
It's not how high it goes but how fast it gets there and when the last test of a daily ema was. The crashes only happen after a huge daily gain and usually when a test hasn't been done in a while. 900 the other day was an obvious sell. But if the price built slowly up to 900, with corrections, then it would not be.

You can also look at blockchain.info to see when large amounts of coins are being transferred but you're still left guessing as to exactly when the coins will be sold.
4024  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 21, 2013, 03:58:17 AM
And here's why we're not crashing very hard. These bids have all formed in the past day. Throughout this drop, the amount of fiat on btcchina and bitstamp has gone up nearly 100%. bitstamp now has a mtgox-like order book. And then there's the dark orders.
4025  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bears Bunker - Official thread on: November 21, 2013, 03:20:42 AM


I think bears might be out of luck if we're hoping for some massive april-like capitulation drop to $300. There is just too much horsepower now and too many exchanges involved. These bids have all formed in the past day...  And then there's the 500, 750, etc dark orders on bitfinex.
4026  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 20, 2013, 10:16:32 PM
4 hour chart going DOWN  , its bear time.
4027  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 20, 2013, 08:32:05 PM
Despite the bubble poppage, there is massive bid depth building across the exchanges. Bitstamp now has 10m USD (up from 700k in the summer and 6m just the other day). BT China now has 55m CNY (up from 5m at the beginning of the rally). I don't know what to make of it. My instinct from April, looking at the asks, and the h4 emas, is to sell because its probably capitulating into 300. But then I look at these new bids and I just don't think its safe. What do you think?
4028  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Struggling To Hold Above $500 USD. on: November 20, 2013, 09:48:07 AM
$500 is the new $100. Bitcoin will have crashes below and rallies above $500 for the next 6 months until the next bubble.
4029  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 20, 2013, 09:28:59 AM
That trendline is faster than exponential. It is actually the tallest of three new trendlines that we have seen this year.

July trendline: Somewhat fast but reasonable continuation of march, leading to a breakout. This could be considered a hard support and representative of the actual growth happening with bitcoin.

October trendline: Once we broke out from $150, this became the new trendline, which seemed insanely fast at the time. We knew we were leading into a bubble at this point. This trendline is perhaps representative of the growth occuring with China/Bitstamp/etc, though it is pretty fast. It MIGHT become our support after this collapse and for 2014.

November trendline: Once $266 broke, the price went ballistic and started following this new trendline. It looks completely vertical on a logarithmic chart and cannot be sustained. This is the trendline in the picture you posted. We are definitely going to break it at some point. The question is is that happening now or somewhere down the line. If it holds, it will only serve to prolong the bubble further to $1400 or so before an even larger and more devestating collapse.
4030  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 20, 2013, 09:11:32 AM
That wall on btcchina at 4000 keeps getting smaller and smaller and eclipsed by the sell orders. When it breaks who knows where itll go.
4031  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 20, 2013, 09:06:38 AM
Right now people are clinging for dear life onto the crazy november trendline. I guess when that breaks.. we go to the october trendline? That would be around $300.
4032  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 20, 2013, 08:56:34 AM
Have we officially gone now from correction to full blown bubble collapse?
4033  Economy / Speculation / Re: Analysis of previous bubble corrections and impending crash on: November 20, 2013, 08:23:07 AM
Bumping my thread for reference.
4034  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 20, 2013, 02:26:10 AM
Choo Choo mofo

4035  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 20, 2013, 12:48:51 AM
4036  Economy / Speculation / Re: Am I the only one who feels relieved when the price goes down? on: November 19, 2013, 11:19:40 PM
Bitcoin has only ever been at this price today and yesterday. How can you call it cheap?
4037  Economy / Speculation / Re: whats happening? on: November 19, 2013, 04:20:52 PM
The other day's correction was a low volume correction. This is a HIGH VOLUME correction.
4038  Economy / Speculation / Re: Rate drops rapidly now on: November 19, 2013, 04:18:07 PM
Oh when I think of panic selling I think of traders seeing the price drop and then impulsively selling. Not whales moving around massive amounts of coins beforehand to do premeditated dumping.
4039  Economy / Speculation / Re: Rate drops rapidly now on: November 19, 2013, 03:06:12 PM
People are panic selling, and the price is going down, probably back to $140.

Sell now while your coins still have value, before other people do.

No it's not panic selling

4040  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 19, 2013, 07:34:28 AM
Choo Choo

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