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40281  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: August 20, 2014, 09:53:03 PM
you know that if you believe in god, you should believe everything? i believe that son goku exist

Except, if you did that, you would have to stop doing it, because most gods tell their followers to only believe in them.

Smiley
40282  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: August 20, 2014, 05:21:51 PM
As 'whatever' moved over the 'deep'.. then he 'said' "let there be light" - according to one book..

This denotes something moved over that which was deep. Who created the depth?

More importantly, how did 'whomever', 'SPEAK'?

Who or 'WHAT' heard his commands?

Who or What granted his wish's?

The foundation for getting a clear picture of this, has to do with understanding sound, and the nature of the universe. And the start of such understanding might be through what is written below.

All vibration is sound. Radio waves, and light waves, are sound. How can this be? It has to do with the universe being way more complex that anyone has dreamed.

Keep in mind parallel universes, side by side, in the MEGA-universe. Also, keep in mind that the words being used are so that the layman can get a picture. They are not for technical mathematics.

"Space" is an elastic solid. It is home for, possibly, an infinite number of "parallel universes, side by side," each one operating with its own "universal" vibration.

When you move something physical through a section of space, like waving your hand in the air, the individual sub-atomic particles that make up the individual atoms of your hand, are broken down and reassembled across multitudes of universes, causing reactions in all these universes. The actual sub-atomic particles are points - think of eddies in a pond, created by two or more waves crossing over each other - where the various parallel universes "touch" momentarily, all of this acting according to UNTOLD MULTITUDES of EXTREMELY COMPLEX universal laws.

Such things as light, sub-atomic particles that move through space, electromagnetic waves, are all simpler forms, similar to the complex ones listed in the previous paragraph. ALL vibrations through space - because space is an elastic solid - are, therefore, sound.

When you have a Being that is essentially, in His nature, from "outside of" our mega-universe (whatever that means), and One Who has the ability to cause vibrations in the "space" of our universe that might be compared with vibrations that people speak through the air - although the vibrations through the air are many magnitudes less complex than speaking through the elastic solid of space - you can start to see how the things of the universe were spoken into existence, as written in the first chapter of the Bible.

Smiley

Where's that 'like' button? Excellent description of the waves of vibration Wink
Except that it is incorrect.  I don't know where one would ever get the idea that electromagnetic energy is a form of sound?

You are reading too fast; my fault for cramming too much into a short writing.

Electrons, protons, and neutrons are made up of other sub-atomic particles. These are, like light (photons), particles that are also waves. This shows how all matter is really energy.

The vibrations of energy in our universe, besides having their own individual frequencies, co-inside with a universal vibration that is unique to our universe, and separates our universe from all the parallel universes.

Our universe occupies almost exactly the same space as all these other universes. The parts of their atoms lie in the "empty space" between the parts of our atoms. The reason we don't seem to be part of them has to do with their individual universal vibration being different, universe to universe.

When you combine all the universes as the mega-universe, all such things as empty space is shown to be non-existent. It is ALL made up of, filled with, the various parallel universes, thereby making empty space into an elastic solid in which the various vibrations exist.

There isn't any way that this can be explained as briefly as this in ways that include a whole picture. Because the various dimensions are included, there probably are some areas that can't even be understood by the human mind. Lots of background is needed to even understand the simple explanation, above.

Vibration in a solid is what we call sound. Electromagnetic vibration is sound.

Smiley

EDIT: I call the mega-universe an elastic solid because, this is the only way to get the idea across clearly. The truth is that the solidity of the mega-universe is way beyond anything that we understand as a solid.
40283  Other / Off-topic / Re: Are house cats useful? on: August 20, 2014, 04:57:34 PM
Cats are not useful!
They only eat and don't do anything!
I hate cats...Cheesy

no

my cat eats snakes
literally

I caught her eating a snake like 2-3 times

my backyard is snake free

say that's not useful Cheesy

Your cat sounds like a cow chewing her cud, eating a snake 2 or 3 times.

Smiley
40284  Other / Off-topic / Re: Are house cats useful? on: August 20, 2014, 04:45:33 PM
I don't believe in the idea of keeping animals in a house.

Humans are animals.

Wrong! Lately researchers have found that humans have a section of brain that animals don't have. It allows reasoning in great quantity and quality. Most (all?) animals seem to have a slight amount of ability to reason. But people use it all day long, every day, in a big way. Animals can't do this.

While I don't have a site reference for this, this newly discovered part of the brain might also be the part that connects us to higher consciousness. Besides this, there are some TED talks that are finding things along these same lines.

Smiley
40285  Other / Off-topic / Re: Are house cats useful? on: August 20, 2014, 04:40:28 PM
i would never own a housecat though just because i think they are discusting and they really cant jump up on counters and such after they scoop poop around in their litterbox . they are not clean animals./ i like dogs. a lab preferably

Almost +1.

Keep ALL dogs and cats outside, or at best, only in their own room which is blocked off from the rest of the house.

Smiley
40286  Other / Off-topic / Re: Are house cats useful? on: August 20, 2014, 04:37:16 PM
Cats are pretty shit. They don't do anything.

Dog's eat their shit then lick your face. Grin

Cats lick their xxx, then spread it out all over their hair, then rub up against you. So soft.

Smiley
40287  Other / Off-topic / Re: Are house cats useful? on: August 20, 2014, 04:33:16 PM
I think claw removal/clipping is really cruel. You basically rob a cat of its ability to climb, hunt, defend itself, etc. You know, stuff cats do.

If you want a cat but don't want your furniture destroyed, there are other options like getting a scratching post, not allowing your cat to go indoors or in certain rooms, or simply not getting a cat at all.

+1

Declawing will make me label you as an asshole, they actually need claws to do stuff, what happens if you die or they have to survive on their own for awhile? You've just made it extremely difficult for them to get any food, the reason they scratch is because they're doing the equivalent of clipping nails so they don't get too long, you could either get a scratching post for them to use or if it really bothers you that much don't get a cat at all.

Yeah if you've got furniture you don't want it near you could just keep it in an area where the scratching won't have any affect and just let it go outside to do that, as for the shitbox, my cats are awesome and go outside to take a dump, then they bury it themselves without any input from me whatsoever Wink

Just wondering what kind of "*hole" you are going to label those who use cats for target practice.

Smiley
40288  Other / Off-topic / Re: Are house cats useful? on: August 20, 2014, 04:31:08 PM

And it's not cruel, people castrate animals all the time (with dogs it's even recommended) and you say cutting the nails is cruel?

If you look around for it, you can find where, right in the United States, even, people castrate other people!

Smiley
40289  Other / Off-topic / Re: Are house cats useful? on: August 20, 2014, 04:24:15 PM
Yes cats are amazing at getting rid of rodents.  Warning, street cats will leave a beheaded mouse on the floor and you might pick it up thinking it is a piece of porkchop.

I'm a better housekeeper than to let pieces of my pork chop lie around on the floor until they get fuzz on 'em.

Smiley
40290  Other / Off-topic / Re: Science and God? on: August 20, 2014, 03:46:13 PM
Science and God is a nobrainer. God created everything. Science has to do with the observation of everything. All the rest is interpretation.

Science is not interpretation. Science has to do with observation. Scientists who interpret God out of science simply haven observed enough, yet. Or else they are liars...

Smiley

Saying that science is only about observation is so untrue. Yes, observation is huge part of science, but is used to come with new ideas and systems, machines, almost everything. Our technology is based on observations applied into many differents industries, just observing wouldn't get us into space....

From http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/science?s=t

science
[sahy-uh ns]

noun
1. a branch of knowledge or study dealing with a body of facts or truths systematically arranged and showing the operation of general laws:
the mathematical sciences.
2. systematic knowledge of the physical or material world gained through observation and experimentation.
3. any of the branches of natural or physical science.
4. systematized knowledge in general.
5. knowledge, as of facts or principles; knowledge gained by systematic study.
6. a particular branch of knowledge.
7. skill, especially reflecting a precise application of facts or principles; proficiency.

----------

Obviously, this is only one definition. It seems to be close to the long-standing definition regarding observation. The interesting part is this. Nowhere in the definition does it speak of things that have not been proven. It only talks about "facts."

For example. There is no scientific fact that the age of the earth is beyond about 4,500 years. There is a lot of evidence that suggests that the earth might be as old as 25,000 years. And there are interpretations that suggest that the earth is millions or billions of years old.

All the honest, capable scientists say it this way, either straight forward, or by disclaimer words like "if" and "maybe." The dishonest scientists suggest that they have proof. The fact is, there are too many evidences that the earth is a very young earth. And many of these evidences are the same ones that are used to suggest an old earth. It is mostly based on interpretation when you go beyond about 4,500 years, and all based on interpretation when you go beyond about 25,000 years.

So, why do so many school text books, so many "science" websites, multitudes of scientific papers, all suggest earth being millions or billions of years old? Because they didn't go to the trouble of saying "if" or "maybe" themselves. They simply said that they were basing their work on the work of someone who went before them. Or they suggest it is the accepted model of the universe, and they didn't check the truth of it out themselves.

This is NOT science. Not by the, above, definition. What this is, is, politics. It is propaganda. It is science in only ONE way. It is political science expressed. And it is presented in the smoothest, most cunning ways - simple, humble, straight-forward lies.

The science that is behind the engineered inventions is good and real science. In fact, it is the political propaganda science that is holding much technical progress back, progress that would have been made by engineers using good science that has been clouded by the propaganda.

Since the whole world seems to have this mixture of real science, and propaganda being touted as science, no wonder there are troubles within nations. It's time for us to wake up to this fact by examining the language of science, and then re-examining the science itself if necessary.

Personal belief doesn't make something in to a scientific reality.

Smiley
40291  Other / Off-topic / Re: What do you guys think about Mars one? on: August 20, 2014, 12:01:08 AM
I think it's an awesome project that the humankind needs, even if it just to increase interest in space travel and the colonization of Mars.

Then there's the street people in the U.S. - a lot of them ex-military - and the homeless kids, and the people living in their cars because they lost their homes to a corrupt banking system, all who don't think about the Mars One project very much, because they are almost starving to death.

Smiley
40292  Other / Off-topic / Re: Science and God? on: August 19, 2014, 11:57:25 PM
Science and God is a nobrainer. God created everything. Science has to do with the observation of everything. All the rest is interpretation.

Science is not interpretation. Science has to do with observation. Scientists who interpret God out of science simply haven observed enough, yet. Or else they are liars...

Smiley
40293  Other / Off-topic / Re: How to win at the Forex. on: August 19, 2014, 11:51:20 PM
After 15 years, part-time, of dabbling, calculating, formulating, back-testing, etc., the Strategy in my first post, above ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=727301.msg8221050#msg8221050 ), produces the best results over the longest period of time, of anything I have seen. The key is the 10-pip Limit against the 90-pip Stop, with the multiplier added.

If you can find an honest broker who will let you do what I have listed there, you will win BIG if you don't get stupid about it.

Smiley
40294  Other / Off-topic / Re: Pictures from Russia. on: August 19, 2014, 08:53:40 PM


Is that a 5k note barely peeking out of the bikini bottom of the gal on the left?

Smiley
40295  Other / Off-topic / Re: What do you guys think about Mars one? on: August 19, 2014, 08:33:30 PM
Going to Mars is always an interesting idea. And, you have to start somewhere. Personally I would rather most of the bugs were worked out before I did it.

I think that the fiat currencies will collapse, throwing the whole world into turmoil, before these people get going. But if it happens after we get some folks out there, they will probably be stranded, unless the 4 that are already out there, and the 4 replacements that are on the way, decide that they all are going to return together, once they hear of the collapse over the radio.

If we DO manage to get people on Mars, I seriously doubt that we will get a self-sustaining colony going before the collapse.

Any way, it'll be more dangerous, and harder work, than most of the group can imagine.

Smiley
40296  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: August 19, 2014, 08:19:30 PM
Parents, for the love of god send your kids to a good private school.  Undecided

Especially if they are science-minded, and God-minded at the same time. They will, at least, have a chance to combine all kinds of truths that they would completely miss in a public school.

Smiley
40297  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: August 19, 2014, 07:59:39 PM
As 'whatever' moved over the 'deep'.. then he 'said' "let there be light" - according to one book..

This denotes something moved over that which was deep. Who created the depth?

More importantly, how did 'whomever', 'SPEAK'?

Who or 'WHAT' heard his commands?

Who or What granted his wish's?

The foundation for getting a clear picture of this, has to do with understanding sound, and the nature of the universe. And the start of such understanding might be through what is written below.

All vibration is sound. Radio waves, and light waves, are sound. How can this be? It has to do with the universe being way more complex that anyone has dreamed.

Keep in mind parallel universes, side by side, in the MEGA-universe. Also, keep in mind that the words being used are so that the layman can get a picture. They are not for technical mathematics.

"Space" is an elastic solid. It is home for, possibly, an infinite number of "parallel universes, side by side," each one operating with its own "universal" vibration.

When you move something physical through a section of space, like waving your hand in the air, the individual sub-atomic particles that make up the individual atoms of your hand, are broken down and reassembled across multitudes of universes, causing reactions in all these universes. The actual sub-atomic particles are points - think of eddies in a pond, created by two or more waves crossing over each other - where the various parallel universes "touch" momentarily, all of this acting according to UNTOLD MULTITUDES of EXTREMELY COMPLEX universal laws.

Such things as light, sub-atomic particles that move through space, electromagnetic waves, are all simpler forms, similar to the complex ones listed in the previous paragraph. ALL vibrations through space - because space is an elastic solid - are, therefore, sound.

When you have a Being that is essentially, in His nature, from "outside of" our mega-universe (whatever that means), and One Who has the ability to cause vibrations in the "space" of our universe that might be compared with vibrations that people speak through the air - although the vibrations through the air are many magnitudes less complex than speaking through the elastic solid of space - you can start to see how the things of the universe were spoken into existence, as written in the first chapter of the Bible.

Smiley
40298  Other / Off-topic / Re: bitcoin is the god of atheist on: August 19, 2014, 02:17:11 PM
Oh, yeah. Forgot to mention. Bitcoin isn't the god of atheists. Atheists are their own god.

Smiley
40299  Other / Off-topic / Re: bitcoin is the god of atheist on: August 19, 2014, 02:15:10 PM
"Bitcoin" has two meanings:
1. Computer money - bit, as in byte, and money;
2. The hidden meaning - In the old days, gold was money. The way the average person tested to see if a coin was pure gold was to bite it. Gold is soft, and the teeth can make indentations in a pure gold coin. However, often a person accepting a gold coin as payment, didn't have to bite the coin. All he had to do was look at the number of bites on the coin to see how often the coin had changed hands, being there by authenticated. Hence, bit coin. The people, back then, who were at a disadvantage, often were the people who handled a lot of gunpowder routinely. Gunpowder efficacy was tested in the same way as gold coins. The difference was that gunpowder testers often lost their teeth doing gunpowder tests. This meant that they couldn't test to see if the gold coins were real. This was often why gunpowder testers would only accept well-used gold coins, ones that they didn't have to personally authenticate.

Bitcoin.

Smiley

(chuckle)
40300  Other / Off-topic / Re: how i propose a girl after 7 years on: August 19, 2014, 01:57:33 PM
Bangladesh is a common law nation. This means that the people are the law.

You said that you are serious. Make an appointment with her when you both have 2 to 3 hours to spend together. Show her your written down list of marriage points, points that are what you expect of yourself, what you expect of her, what you will abide by according to your local Bangladesh area tradition. Make an appointment so that she can respond with her list after looking at yours.

You said August 15. This deadline has come and gone. If it is not finished already, tell her that you want to finish it at your next meeting, one way or the other. After all, you can't spend your whole life (and hers) simply waiting around. At the next meeting, both of you will set the marriage date, or you will separate forever. If you separate, make it final by finding another woman.

Smiley
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