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40321  Other / Off-topic / Re: What happened to the thread about answering the question with a question on: August 18, 2014, 12:28:39 AM
Here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=55701.0.

Smiley
40322  Other / Off-topic / Re: God is Reality on: August 18, 2014, 12:26:10 AM
Tell that to the cops who beat Rodney King, and many, many others for no reason. Google "police brutality" and see the millions upon millions of hits. Or thoroughly peruse this one simple site: http://www.copblock.org/.

Smiley

EDIT: Sorry, you didn't edit fast enough.
Yeah you got me too quickly. I edited out that nonsense when my brain kicked up a notch, sorry it was already late and I'm tired.
I've realized that 'until proven guilty you're innocent' is just written on paper, in reality it's worth nothing.

I posted this elsewhere, I don't remember where. But if you want to see a bunch of investors applaud the speech of an attorney, watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUow1DhAubA. Attorney Marc Victor is excellent, in this video, and as an attorney.

Smiley
40323  Other / Off-topic / Re: The most dangerous creature of our planet on: August 18, 2014, 12:18:45 AM
Maybe this link:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=729183.msg8406949#msg8406949.

Smiley
40324  Other / Off-topic / Re: [Official] Illuminati discussion thread? Do they exist? on: August 18, 2014, 12:02:34 AM
The world full of Illuminati, like a dead tree full of highly intelligent termites.

Smiley
40325  Other / Off-topic / Re: FREE ELECTRICITY: Magnets Motor Electric Generators on: August 17, 2014, 11:59:50 PM
Can't believe people fall for this bullshit.

Like NASA is starting to, and the Chinese have for 5 years. While the stuff in the link isn't magnet motors, it is a whole new concept in an area where scientists thought they knew almost everything. The reason they don't say "perpetual motion" is because if they admit that far, they will have to change all their physics.

http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/160811-2014-08-07-huge-breakthrough-at-nasa.htm

Smiley
Stop smiling. Read about it a bit more. Facepalm yourself for being gullible. Stay in school...

Oh, that's okay. But you're going to miss out if you don't start accepting some of this stuff that the scientists have been telling us is impossible, because they need their funding.

Smiley
40326  Other / Off-topic / Re: God is Reality on: August 17, 2014, 11:43:54 PM
how come everything we've been able to explain so far has made sense and works with other explained laws?

Explain this:

Roberts' Seth books are all readily available for anyone to study and attempt to explain
and the Seth phenomenon and its content are in the domain of world experience -- but far
beyond explanation
. I am inclined to take a cautious position approaching expansive
phenomena of this type, merely wanting to emphasize that we can and should no longer
wish them away
. As with psychiatric systems, any world view may have its own limits of
relevance
. Ours is now being challenged (Beahrs, 1982, p. 172).

http://www.rivier.edu/faculty/pcunningham/Research/Problem_of_Seths_Origin.pdf

God makes sense. If people would fill themselves up on the Bible, with the idea that they were going to prove it rather than disprove it, they would understand what God is really all about, why He made us, what His glory is, and when and how He is going to praise us.

Smiley
40327  Other / Off-topic / Re: FREE ELECTRICITY: Magnets Motor Electric Generators on: August 17, 2014, 11:38:17 PM
Can't believe people fall for this bullshit.

Like NASA is starting to, and the Chinese have for 5 years. While the stuff in the link isn't magnet motors, it is a whole new concept in an area where scientists thought they knew almost everything. The reason they don't say "perpetual motion" is because if they admit that far, they will have to change all their physics.

http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/160811-2014-08-07-huge-breakthrough-at-nasa.htm

Smiley
40328  Other / Off-topic / Re: Would you vote for an admitted hetero-sexual president? on: August 17, 2014, 11:18:39 PM
When you vote for president, your vote does NOTHING other than to influence members of the Electoral College in your district. It is the Electoral College that casts the votes for the President that elect him (her?).

Smiley
40329  Other / Off-topic / Re: God is Reality on: August 17, 2014, 11:08:59 PM
The ignorance grows strong in this one.
Never make a self moderated thread about such a topic. I'm not an atheist but God is not a reality, and that's the reality.
This statement is just wrong. You can't call something reality without being able to prove it.
Until proven guilty you're innocent.
You can't say that Ironman is reality since there is no proof, and until you prove it isn't reality.

Tell that to the cops who beat Rodney King, and many, many others for no reason. Google "police brutality" and see the millions upon millions of hits. Or thoroughly peruse this one simple site: http://www.copblock.org/.

Smiley

EDIT: Sorry, you didn't edit fast enough.
40330  Other / Off-topic / Re: God is Reality on: August 17, 2014, 10:48:44 PM
The way out of taxes?
EDIT: Basically, this only works in Canada, the US and the UK.
Nice!
Glad to see something like this.

In my experience, it is easy to interest people in liberation if you give them the simplest of instructions, like in this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pF8WiyVFytQ

I only wish that such audios were accompanied with documents,
because it is really easy to screw up something so simple as a 4-line claim.

Unfortunately, most today do not have the attention span to read even a few pages.  Lips sealed

Passive acceptance of the taxman is no way to live free.

Karl is his own kind of guy. He's a tough guy from New York. And he does what he does the way he does, both to straighten out the country, and for his own benefit. He will win BIG in the future once he gets enough of the people of these 3 countries doing what he does.

What is the best way to teach people? You need to make them think. You need to give them the answers in such a way that they have to think to understand what they have.

Doing what Karl is teaching people to do takes guts. You don't learn it by listening to Karl for only one hour. Lots of attorneys don't understand this stuff, and they have been "practicing" for years. It's for this reason that Karl doesn't like templates.

Here is a site where somebody has taken it on himself to do templates. I don't know where this person got all his info. Some is from the audios. Yes, it is a bit of a crude site. We need to make better sites with more clarification. Here it is: http://plaintiffmustappear.blogspot.com/.

Here are a few of Karl's personal docs. They suggest the idea that Karl didn't win, and he didn't in a direct way. But he will when he goes at it the next time, with people of 3 nations behind him. Behind him just through the fact that they are using what he has virtually perfected. Look at the docs to see how much he will win. The docs: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B8BdR0w2oZY_d3F2ZjZtSk1JWWM&usp=sharing.

Start listening to the audios. This is real basic stuff, like Judge Judy, without her interference in her own court.

Smiley

EDIT: I haven't seen all of these docs together any other place. I have downloaded most of them, maybe all of them. You should download them, too, so that a lot of us have copies in the event that Google goes nuts and takes them down.

Note the boxes around most of the court sites in the docs. English grammatical definitions say that anything in a box, or in square brackets [like this], isn't on the page. So you can inform without actually using. Get it?

EDIT 2: What is the reason for Quantum Easing? When we have people of 3 countries winning as big as Karl will win (see the docs), governments and attorney and banking crooks will need LOTS of cash to pay off our court wins.
40331  Other / Off-topic / Re: God is Reality on: August 17, 2014, 07:34:08 PM
The ignorance grows strong in this one.
Never make a self moderated thread about such a topic. I'm not an atheist but God is not a reality, and that's the reality.
This statement is just wrong. You can't call something reality without being able to prove it.

Right! For all we know, all the laws of the universe that we have found out already, may not really be laws after all.

Consider this, What if God is not only God, but is also Super God. This means that He holds and controls everything that we call logic in this world and life. It means that He makes everything work together and just look like we have laws of nature, but it is really HIM simply making it look that way to us.

How can we ever really know if this is not so?

Smiley

If you start such questions, this never ends Smiley
You can even question your own existence.
How do you know that you really exist, that you are not just part of some matrix (like in the movie matrix).



Forum commenting is fun. So, let's keep commenting.

The only reason Super God has not appeared before is because of the word "Super." For believers in God, the term is God Almighty. Same thing.

We, people, are extremely ignorant. How do we know that we are extremely ignorant? Scientific research has been trying for, at least, decades (if not hundreds or thousands of years) to increase the lifespan of people. Yet the success is virtually nonexistent. How do we know? Because there are still groups of people here and there around the world who live longer than scientists can make anyone else live. (Of course, for all we know, there might have been a race of super-smart scientists who lived in the distant past, who increased the lifespan of everyone from, say, 10 years, to what it is today.)

So, to examine ALL avenues, let's question our own existence, until we find out one way or another if we really DO exist. It's all part of research.

Smiley
40332  Other / Off-topic / Re: FREE ELECTRICITY: Magnets Motor Electric Generators on: August 17, 2014, 07:21:45 PM
Yes, but the universe acts as a unit. We don't exactly know the hows/whys/wheres/whats of magnetism and gravity. They react on the motion of the whole universe both macro-cosmically and micro-cosmically. Does this mean that someday the whole universe will run down and stop, simply because we make electricity? If we knew the answer to that question, we would have the perfect Unified Field Theory as a Law.

Smiley
We understand electricity, magnetism, and energy pretty well.  Over time, energy diffuses from higher concentrations (like stars) to area of lower concentration, and may eventually reach a uniform state.  It's like have a pot of hot water in a room.  Over time, the pot cools down as the energy diffuses to the rest of the room, and the rest of the room warms up a little bit.  Eventually, the "universe" in this example (pot + room) reaches a steady-state in which the energy is even distributed throughout the room (i.e., the temperature of the room and the temperature of the pot are the same).  The same kind of thing is happening to the universe as a whole.

Yes this is correct, the general theory is called the "heat death" of the universe, where it approaches maximum entropy and basically does "run down and stop". I don't see how this relates to having Unified Field Theory as a law?

Anyway all these ideas of "perpetual motion" and over-unity devices are utter bollocks, it is impossible to create a device that produces more energy than it consumes. I've had this conversation with some of my conspiracy theorist friends, who are adamant that this technology exists and is being "suppressed" by the government. Yet they can never show any proof other than shitty youtube videos.

The other idea which tends to be thrown around is that it's possible to harness "zero-point energy", which I don't believe as it violates Heisenberg's Uncertainty principle: If we were to "extract" the zero-point energy, then we would know the position AND speed of the particle.

I do accept that large energy corporations/governments could be suppressing other energy technologies, such as more efficient ways of harnessing renewable energy, nuclear fusion research, thorium based power etc.

But this idea that they are suppressing simple, cheap perpetual motion/over-unity machines (that defy the known laws of thermodynamics) that we could all power our homes with is just nonsense, sorry.

Okay. Let's see if I can say it really clearly and briefly.

First Class: Perpetual Motion, as a noun, where it could be written PerpetualMotion, or Perpetual-motion, is what the scientists mean, and what the laymen usually do NOT mean. This PM means, once started into motion, no added energy, no energy loss, and continuing to run perpetually.

Second Class: Perpetual motion as the layman usually means it is where you get out at least a little more energy than you put in. Magnet motor generators fall into this class.

First Class is impossible by any means science understands because their is always loss due to friction.

Second Class is impossible because you can't get more out of something than there is in it.

There is a Third Class. This is where a form of energy that we do not understand and can't even observe is going in, and it is being converted, to come out in a form that we DO understand, like static magnetism or active electricity. There are all kinds of people that call this Third Class, PERPETUAL MOTION.

If anybody is so bold that he claims that he knows FOR A FACT that we know everything about the universe, he is a fool. We ABSOLUTELY DON'T know for a fact that a magnet is NOT a converter of some form of energy that we know little or nothing about, and that the magnet, itself, helps us to convert that unknown energy into electrical energy.

Is someone wrong for calling something like this magnetic generator/motor a perpetual motion machine? In the technical sense, yes. But there will come a time - and it might be here already - when enough people call this a PM machine, so it is accepted by such in the eyes of everybody.

There are two more things to say:
1. much of the disagreement in this topic is over semantics;
2. I believe that there are political trolls who are constantly suggesting that such a "perpetual motion" machine can't work, because they are working for the government and the power companies, and are trying to keep the power companies from losing any more money than they are already losing to solar.

Smiley
40333  Other / Off-topic / Re: Help my C drive eating space on: August 17, 2014, 05:32:50 AM
I saw your topic title, and realized I was hungry for a fast food burger.

Smiley
40334  Other / Off-topic / Re: God is Reality on: August 17, 2014, 05:28:36 AM
The ignorance grows strong in this one.
Never make a self moderated thread about such a topic. I'm not an atheist but God is not a reality, and that's the reality.
This statement is just wrong. You can't call something reality without being able to prove it.

Right! For all we know, all the laws of the universe that we have found out already, may not really be laws after all.

Consider this, What if God is not only God, but is also Super God. This means that He holds and controls everything that we call logic in this world and life. It means that He makes everything work together and just look like we have laws of nature, but it is really HIM simply making it look that way to us.

How can we ever really know if this is not so?

Smiley
40335  Other / Off-topic / Re: God is Reality on: August 17, 2014, 05:06:50 AM

Haha! Nice. Yep, you definitely have to pay some taxes or you'll get sent to prison if you get caught. It sucks, but it's one of the things that's often quite necessary
So taxes (tribute) and imprisonment (body-mastery) are your reality.
Maybe the taxman is your god?

The way out of taxes?

This is a rather long audio, almost 4 hours. But it is full of fascinating stuff. Among the stuff, if you listen closely, you will hear the way to beat the taxman, hands down.

http://recordings.talkshoe.com/TC-39904/TS-822307.mp3

Loads of similar, additional listening info can be found at:

http://www.myprivateaudio.com/Karl-Lentz.html

http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkCast.jsp?masterId=127469&cmd=tc

and in organized fashion, http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5duR4OvEHHxOSdEZhANETw


Smiley

EDIT: Basically, this only works in Canada, the US and the UK.
40336  Other / Off-topic / Re: How to win at the Forex. on: August 17, 2014, 04:52:59 AM
Well, I signed up with a Forex broker, with a demo account. The thing that I missed was that the account was NOT a scalping account, so I could not run at a 10 pip Limit as my original post said.

This broker used the MT4 trading protocol. With it I was able to download the 1-hour history going back to the beginning of February, 2014. I built a spreadsheet around the data and found that this data produced results similar to my original (which is NOT MT4).

My next question is, is the MT4 historical data from MetaQuotes, so that it is the same for every broker that uses MT4, or is it the individual brokers' historical data, simply applied to their particular MT4 program? Does anyone have the answer for this?

Smiley
40337  Other / Off-topic / Re: FREE ELECTRICITY: Magnets Motor Electric Generators on: August 17, 2014, 04:34:24 AM
This has been done by a few companies now and they are selling the plans off instead of making them themselves because its 0 cost for them and like $2000 profit for them.

I can't believe how many people here say this thing is already invented..

Second law of thermodynamics directly contradicts usage of the perpetual motion machine

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_law_of_thermodynamics

It hasn't been invented yet and neither it will be, since it's impossible

realize this

perpetuum mobile, ain't gonna happen

perpetuum mobile

image

Perpetual motion electrical energy has been around for more than 100 years. What does anyone think that the hydroelectric power plants are? Do you think people created electrical energy? Realize once and for all that people don't create it. The energy is there for anyone to tap into, and that is all that people do. It will be there in one form or another perpetually, forever, or until the whole universe is destroyed. So why not magnet motors? Just because we haven't figured out how to make them practical, yet...

Smiley

Water in high up place = potential energy.

Potential Energy -> Kinetic energy.

Water gets to high place via the water cycle. Outside forces.

It's not perpetual. It's using solar energy which is a finite resource. It's wasting quite a bit of energy too in the process (well, not really wasting, but every single bit of the sun's energy isn't be used at a 100% efficiency).

Maybe you should open up a physics book bro.

PLEASE SEE MY EDITS ABOVE.

Smiley

EDIT: Energy can not be created or destroyed. It can only be converted.

My quote still stands. Energy is lost from the water cycle system (it rains other places, the sun burns hydrogen to produce heat / light, we're not putting hydrogen back into the sun).

Yes, but the universe acts as a unit. We don't exactly know the hows/whys/wheres/whats of magnetism and gravity. They react on the motion of the whole universe both macro-cosmically and micro-cosmically. Does this mean that someday the whole universe will run down and stop, simply because we make electricity? If we knew the answer to that question, we would have the perfect Unified Field Theory as a Law.

Smiley
40338  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Three Men Mine $200,000 In Bitcoin Every Month on: August 17, 2014, 04:28:25 AM
Interesting, I think there are still plenty of Bitcoins being mined by the miners this year, resulting in the inflation problem.

on average 3600 coins are made a day (25 per block per 10 minutes= (25x144blocks a day) yet there are more than 3600 coins swapping hands per day.

but most people only think about the high school level of economics. so i wont waffle into the deeper levels of trading that go beyond the whole supply and demand structure.. but in short bitcoin is DEFLATIONARY

I agree. Seems to me that this deflationary condition will make the value of Bitcoin only grow over the long term (with relation to fiat), provided the blockchain encryption is not cracked somehow.

Smiley
40339  Other / Off-topic / Re: FREE ELECTRICITY: Magnets Motor Electric Generators on: August 17, 2014, 04:17:14 AM
This has been done by a few companies now and they are selling the plans off instead of making them themselves because its 0 cost for them and like $2000 profit for them.

I can't believe how many people here say this thing is already invented..

Second law of thermodynamics directly contradicts usage of the perpetual motion machine

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_law_of_thermodynamics

It hasn't been invented yet and neither it will be, since it's impossible

realize this

perpetuum mobile, ain't gonna happen

perpetuum mobile

image

Perpetual motion electrical energy has been around for more than 100 years. What does anyone think that the hydroelectric power plants are? Do you think people created electrical energy? Realize once and for all that people don't create it. The energy is there for anyone to tap into, and that is all that people do. It will be there in one form or another perpetually, forever, or until the whole universe is destroyed. So why not magnet motors? Just because we haven't figured out how to make them practical, yet...

Smiley

Water in high up place = potential energy.

Potential Energy -> Kinetic energy.

Water gets to high place via the water cycle. Outside forces.

It's not perpetual. It's using solar energy which is a finite resource. It's wasting quite a bit of energy too in the process (well, not really wasting, but every single bit of the sun's energy isn't be used at a 100% efficiency).

Maybe you should open up a physics book bro.

PLEASE SEE MY EDITS ABOVE.

Smiley

EDIT: Energy can not be created or destroyed. It can only be converted.
40340  Other / Off-topic / Re: FREE ELECTRICITY: Magnets Motor Electric Generators on: August 17, 2014, 04:04:49 AM
This has been done by a few companies now and they are selling the plans off instead of making them themselves because its 0 cost for them and like $2000 profit for them.

I can't believe how many people here say this thing is already invented..

Second law of thermodynamics directly contradicts usage of the perpetual motion machine

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_law_of_thermodynamics

It hasn't been invented yet and neither it will be, since it's impossible

realize this

perpetuum mobile, ain't gonna happen

perpetuum mobile

image

Perpetual motion electrical energy has been around for more than 100 years. What does anyone think that the hydroelectric power plants are? Do you think people created electrical energy? Realize once and for all that people don't create it. The energy is there for anyone to tap into, and that is all that people do. It will be there in one form or another perpetually, forever, or until the whole universe is destroyed. So why not magnet motors? Just because we haven't figured out how to make them practical, yet...

Smiley

not true

in hydroelectric power plants water puts pressure on the plants all the time, in a perpetual motion machine force should be used only once to start the machine and then it would run on it's own
while in hydroeletric power plants force works on the plants all the time

From http://dictionary.reference.com/:



perpetual
[per-pech-oo-uh l]

adjective
1. continuing or enduring forever; everlasting.
2. lasting an indefinitely long time:
    perpetual snow.
3. continuing or continued without intermission or interruption; ceaseless:
    a perpetual stream of visitors all day.



motion
[moh-shuh n]

noun
1. the action or process of moving or of changing place or position; movement.
2. power of movement, as of a living body.
3. the manner of moving the body in walking; gait.
4. a bodily movement or change of posture; gesture.



Rains pour down water.
Water flows into dam reservoir.
Water flows through generator turbines.
Turbines turn generators, creating electricity.
Spent water evaporates into the air.

Rains pour down water...



PERPETUAL MOTION



Smiley

EDIT:


perpetual motion (from http://dictionary.reference.com/)


noun, Mechanics
1. the motion of a theoretical mechanism that, without any losses due to friction or other forms of dissipation of energy, would continue to operate indefinitely at the same rate without any external energy being applied to it.



FURTHER EDIT:

Since we are talking about perpetual motion in the sense of getting more energy out of the device than is put into it, the term should be considered as perpetual (adjective) motion (noun), not perpetual motion (noun). If we were talking about only enough energy to keep it moving forever, without adding any energy or taking any energy out, then it would be perpetual motion (noun) of the second sense.
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