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4041  Other / Meta / Re: Public list of yobit spammers(this one's gonna be long boys) on: November 29, 2015, 11:05:44 PM
Look at all the small post's today from  inget - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=205803

The posting habit went up dramatically today, just not normal amount of posts.  A decent amount of them are short.  What made me look was he bumped a dead thread for a post which did not help it at all - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1254556.msg13105570#msg13105570

Also showing up on Security Log - https://bitcointalk.org/seclog.php - "Today at 05:13:38 PM - inget - password changed"

So my guess is sold account to a spammer/account farmer.    And this explains why crap posts and bumpng old threads
4042  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: What are the most popular miners? on: November 29, 2015, 10:59:44 PM
To me  OP wants both information and advice.

Regarding advice i would go for the S5 (second hand) start with it and learn about pools and mining in general, When you are a pro go for the big miners.

To me your looking for a post.  Look at OP's last login - November 01, 2015, 01:56:43.  There was zero need to bump this thread.  Also he was looking for the most popular not best, most popular.

Let this thread die as OP is not coming back.
4043  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Which is the best trusted website to earn btc? on: November 29, 2015, 04:02:10 PM
you can claim faucets on
http://epay.info/ it pays you weekly

As a general rule don't trust faucets on weekly pay.  The pay is already most likely in the cents per day.  So very very little.

And if you do go ahead and pretty much waist time, doing it on weekly pay is bad idea.  Just to much chance of it going bad and no payment.
4044  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Diff thread Nov 23 to Dec 7 Set up stage- Picks Open! on: November 29, 2015, 03:57:07 PM
Current Picks:
 
+11     = mavericklm
+11.1  = Quickseller (currently holding picked 11 after meverick this might change)


You can change my pick to +11.1%. I didn't see that mavericklm had already picked 11%

Thanks It has been done!   Still lots of numbers for others to pick.  Great luck to all!
4045  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [ANN] HashCoins - Cryptocurrency Mining Hardware Manufacturer on: November 29, 2015, 03:55:51 PM
I should have read this earlier, but I'm new to this, didn't really know, now I do know (at least a little more). I ordered 3 Uranus and paid for them in August. Those guys promise and promise delivery, then they say that the boxes are shipped to their Datacenter(?) and when asked about the purpose of that dubious transaction, they state that they have no license to ship the hardware elsewhere. So they state the miners exist. They claim they are not allowed to give them away, nice scheme. Next thing they offer to change my purchase of the boxes into a cloudmining contract. We will see, what the next offer will bring.... There is still no evidence, that even a datacenter exist, not to speak of any miners.

So sad... Cry


Frank

DO NOT accept it being converted into cloudmining.  This allows them to cut and run with money and they can let you seem to mine via online payments.   They should not trusted.

What method did you use to pay for the order?
4046  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Diff thread Nov 23 to Dec 7 Set up stage- Picks Open! on: November 29, 2015, 03:00:47 PM
I liked the new version of the thread(0.1 increment and picking until 1200th block) I used to pick at last blocks and will continue to it.

Btw, it seems that we will see big jumps(10+%) at least 2-3 times. I think, with the increase of price, not a big problem for miners.
Anyway, big jumps->more volatility->some arbitrage opportunities Smiley

I agree it's kinda a fun idea.  Seems to have stopped first day all good picks being taken.  Was a race to get good number.

Also now should be more weeks with no one picking it which i view as fun.  Roll overs always are fun.
4047  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Review] Avalon 6 Miner - Winter Mining - Notlist3d - Also FAQ and Help on: November 29, 2015, 08:31:09 AM
Smiley

Hello guys, I'm reading the threads.

Right now the Cgminer software and MM firmware are preliminary versions, they "works " but not fully optimized of course.
Except for you guys metioned (fan control, voltage monitor, smartspeed, etc), there are also some other small bugs there,
We will try to release some updates soon.

ng

Sounds great! We would love to hear more on smartspeed at some point.  It seems to handle overclock very well.  A lot of us are wanting to see what it can do as far as underclock, this might take a optimization as you mentioned.

Thanks for reading comments and trying to keep us up to date, it is much appreciated.
4048  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Diff thread Nov 23 to Dec 7 Set up stage- Picks Open! on: November 29, 2015, 08:26:11 AM
I am going to pick +11.0 (+11.0 to +11.09)%.

It seems that stagnant BTC prices was very good for the miners throughout 2015, and the recent rally has been less then ideal, although so far, in terms of USD the miners are still on top after the recent rally

Sorry I did not see till cleaning list Maverick already picked this earlier.

+11 = mavericklm

10x!

I put you at 11.1 but let me know if you want it changed let me know and it can be moved.

current list is as follows:

+6.6   = Tmdz (Jr Member - registered October 21)
+8.6   = Herbpean
+9.2   = edonkey
+9.8   = vortexz
+10.0  = Tupsu
+10.1  = zebedee
+10.2  = cakir
+10.4  = adaseb
+10.6  = DanDan
+10.8  = ingiltere
+11     = mavericklm
+11.1  = Quickseller
+11.2  = dukeneptun
+12     = Amph
+12.3  = EternalWingsofGod
4049  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Review] Avalon 6 Miner - Winter Mining - Notlist3d on: November 29, 2015, 08:18:52 AM

On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 11:57 PM, Sales Account <sales@blockc.co> wrote:
The smart speed is very important.  The reason the fan control works the way it does is because the chip needs to run at 75C for optimal efficiency.  When it gets too cold you get a high error rate.  If you want to verify just set  your fan to min 80% and your hash rate will drop to about 3.0T


Just trying to wrap my brain round this?.... A few thoughts.

So 75C chip temperature (Junction temperature?) is not that high and as has been said should not be confused with a temperature measured on the case of the chip or on  the circuit board (as in an Antminer). However I would regard ambient as being yet another temperature to get confused with?

So does this imply that the ASIC's have a built in temperature sensor? If so then yes you would expect to run at a higher temperature than if there is a separate sensor on the circuit board.

However what I do not understand is the concept that "the chip needs to run at 75C for optimal efficiency" I could understand if this meant not higher than 75C but why would it matter if the temperature was lower than this? I have always understood when it comes to chips that colder is better?

So putting all of that to one side for the moment we are next told "When it gets too cold you get a high error rate.  If you want to verify just set  your fan to min 80% and your hash rate will drop to about 3.0T" Now that would first imply that during warm up there is a high error rate and that the system would somehow have to allow for this?

So coming now to turning the fan to 80% and the hash rate dropping. Question for me is does the hash rate drop because the firmware just turns the frequency down when you turn the fan up or does the HW error rate actually go up and then the frequency is turned down to reduce the HW error rate?

Again I am finding this confusing. Surely if the chip gets a bit cold and the frequency is then turned down the chip will then run even colder because of the reduced frequency and is just going to keep going down and down?


All very strange and confusing to me, hopefully the full and true story will emerge at some point?


Rich


Most miners can run hotter then advertised.  It was not Avalon but another company I know of that gave a lower number to be safe on running temperature, but for big data centers it ran much hotter.  I will not suggest others do this as I don't want to break your warranty.

As far as asic's having a temp sensor on chip... I don't think that is likely.  From my readings and comparisons it seems temp sensor is close to exhaust side as temp out of exhaust and temp reading on GUI seem pretty close.  But this is speculation

I think we still have a decent amount to learn as far as "smart speed". It seems to do great as far as overclock, but we need to understand it better to get that underclock (which I am still hoping for).   The efficiency is still good for current gen as it is, so we have time to learn more.

Some have mentioned speed and fan percentage are directly linked with speed.  I will test in coming day's and see what speed change on fan minimum does.  Currently I have pretty cold air as ambient as I'm enjoying my window open, and the miner is still mining fine at 20 percent.    I will specifically try 20 percent see results and then 80 percent and see results, most likely a 30 min or hour test on each. 

I've ran over 5 day's at this point and no issues as far as rejects or other possible bad things with default settings.  And my temp in room with ambient outdoors has varied greatly.  So it seems to be able to handle a variety of ambient temps and still mine well.
4050  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Review] Avalon 6 Miner - Winter Mining - Notlist3d - Also FAQ and Help on: November 29, 2015, 07:48:21 AM
Thanks for posting.  It is interesting to read a lot is still not known on some of the smart stuff.  So nice to some info about it.
4051  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Review] Avalon 6 Miner - Winter Mining - Notlist3d on: November 29, 2015, 05:15:00 AM
This is the email I'm talking to Yan on Sales Account <sales@blockc.co>  Or do you want a transcript?

Yes Smiley if you could copy/paste it.  I (and I think others) would be interested reading it in whole.   As there has not been a ton of info on "The smart speed" and were still really learning about it. 

With underclock I think it sounds like we need to find a way to get around it, or disable so the more we know the better.
4052  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Review] Avalon 6 Miner - Winter Mining - Notlist3d on: November 29, 2015, 04:06:29 AM
Bad news team - I've been in contact with BlocC who said that smart fan speed is integral to it's operation and I doubt we'll have control over it :/

I hope that you are wrong and that true under volt + down clock  is available.

It was available on the avalon 4.

But if you are correct  then these will never work as well as I hoped for.  I am glad to have the 2.  And I will now consider more options.  I may get a hosted s-7.

I'm hoping the same his time is odd at releasing info.  Getting info at Saturday night is just normally not the time they would be sending out support info.

Who are you talking to at BlockC bonez?  Can you post email or picture of email?  The fact you spelled BlockC wrong and time you posted just does not give me ton of confidence in your info.

Lol it's Sunday I'm a bit hungover Tongue

I'm talking to Yan in the sales dep Sales Account <sales@blockc.co>

After asking if there is a firmware update in the works where we will have full control over the fanspeed he said "The smart speed is very important.  The reason the fan control works the way it does is because the chip needs to run at 75C for optimal efficiency.  When it gets too cold you get a high error rate.  If you want to verify just set  your fan to min 80% and your hash rate will drop to about 3.0T"

I also asked him about the ambient temp being so high and he said "Most graphics cards run at 90 to 100 c. 75 c is the core temp of the chip.  Ambient temperature and core are very different."


That shouldn't prevent underclocking. It should be able to slow the fan down sufficiently - or even stop it - to reach 75C at any reasonable frequency/voltage. Am I missing something here?


Please post email Bonez so we can see exactly.  I'm still holding hope that someone will be able able to find a way to underclock.

I feel like were getting half of the info.  But I could be wrong.
4053  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: signature for the position newbie ?? on: November 29, 2015, 03:39:31 AM
I also looking for signature campaign for newbies however despite many effort i don't see any, maybe we should try to increase our rank and let see if we can join a signature campaign in the future.

maybe you just missed on something, there are some campaign that accepting newbies like 777coin and bitvest

Also i suggest looking at what makes a post constructive.  Looking at your posts - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=556259;sa=showPosts  There are a TON of one line answers.  If you continue posting like you are I am willing to bet temp ban for posts.

This is part of reason I don't think signature is greatest things for new accounts.  You need time to learn good posting habits.
4054  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Which miners generates most heat? on: November 29, 2015, 03:28:16 AM
Over past week I have been using a Avalon 6.  It is actually pretty good as far as heat compared to sound.   

I have used it for a week and been happy with it in a room.  It might end up putting it in miner are as it weather warmed up a little last night.  And get it again once it's colder again.
4055  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: News of a mini RasPi for 5$ How could this change bitcoin mining? on: November 29, 2015, 03:23:15 AM
While I too am curious and will probably buy one, it will strictly be for tinkering. Here in Minnesota, our local Micro Center has the Raspberry Pi B+. Same CPU and memory as the Pi-Zero, but 4 normal USB ports, and the Ethernet jack, all put together for $20 (retail price). While I am sure it would be possible to embellish a Pi-Zero to run an ASIC miner, it would make zero economic sense. I suspect that is true for most folks as well.

You can get  4 port USB hubs and Ethernet to usb much cheaper then 15 dollars.   Once it truly is being sold at 5 it will be a pretty good deal.

But a lot of sites are overpricing accessories and putting them together with a Pi Zero as bundle.   Until there are more zeros on market we can expect to see this.
4056  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Review] Avalon 6 Miner - Winter Mining - Notlist3d on: November 29, 2015, 03:12:15 AM
Bad news team - I've been in contact with BlocC who said that smart fan speed is integral to it's operation and I doubt we'll have control over it :/

I hope that you are wrong and that true under volt + down clock  is available.

It was available on the avalon 4.

But if you are correct  then these will never work as well as I hoped for.  I am glad to have the 2.  And I will now consider more options.  I may get a hosted s-7.

I'm hoping the same his time is odd at releasing info.  Getting info at Saturday night is just normally not the time they would be sending out support info.

Who are you talking to at BlockC bonez?  Can you post email or picture of email?  The fact you spelled BlockC wrong and time you posted just does not give me ton of confidence in your info.
4057  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Review] Avalon 6 Miner - Winter Mining - Notlist3d on: November 29, 2015, 03:04:25 AM
cool it takes a village but it now works.

@ notlist  you should add something in the thread title

 some FAQ's on av-6

or

some support av-6

thread will get more hits like my old  sp20 thread.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=872014.0

Good idea I changed it a little bit.   I'm happy to have any and all talk about AV6 in it.  It is meant to help people is main goal.

So thanks for idea!
4058  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: How do you get free power? on: November 29, 2015, 03:00:33 AM
But then only get power during sun.

You produce at day and sell to electric company.
When You consume at night, you bought from electric company.
No batteries need.

But you would need around double the panels correct?  So you save on battery but spend more on panels.

Have you done any math to see cost of this?  I still think it would be pretty high specifically if you are producing enough to sell to power company normally that is not a tiny amount.
4059  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Diff thread Nov 23 to Dec 7 Set up stage- Picks Open! on: November 29, 2015, 02:57:33 AM
Current Picks:

+6.6   = Tmdz (Jr Member - registered October 21)
+8.6   = Herbpean
+9.2   = edonkey
+9.8   = vortexz
+10.0  = Tupsu
+10.1  = zebedee
+10.2  = cakir
+10.4  = adaseb
+10.6  = DanDan
+10.8  = ingiltere
+11     = mavericklm
+11.1  = Quickseller (currently holding picked 11 after meverick this might change)
+12     = Amph
+12.3  = EternalWingsofGod

4060  Economy / Services / Re: [BIT-X.com] Earn Bitcoins by Posting | Signature Campaign on: November 28, 2015, 08:56:52 PM
Everyone's skipped or non paid posts should have been paid. If not, please send me a PM.

Sent.  Can you please confirm you received my PM?  Mine is still from back when post max was turned on early.

Thanks
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