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4061  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How to be A Good Trader? [new] on: October 13, 2018, 02:11:51 PM
I want to Learn by myself For This I need Some Tips and Some Good Ways.Should I Learn From Online Article Or Books?What should be the Way to Learn Well.What is The First thing I Have to do. Please Give me Your Suggesstion.It Will Be Great Help For me.
First you need to have knowledge of this market and put a small amount of money to practice trading. I personally advise you to choose big exchanges as it will help you in trading easier and learn from the experts so they can help you get the best experience before becoming a real trader.
Being a good trader requires a whole lot of discipline and dedication. Dedication to learn and keep learning as much as possible is something that every wannabe trader should always imbibe as you obviously cannot have it better in the long run than taking that step to learn actually.

Also, with trading, it is necessary to take the idea of making money immediately from your head first and try as much as possible to focus on learning and practicing until you know you are ready for the real trading world. The mindset of wanting to get rich quick from trading has affected so many traders into rushing in and rushing out at the end.
4062  Economy / Economics / Re: Can Bitcoin really stabilize any country's economy level? on: October 13, 2018, 12:59:24 PM
I highly doubt bitcoin will be able to stabilize a country's economy level. The economy of any country is made up of so many aspects, and the financial ecosystem is one aspect. To stabilize a country's economy, the main source of the country's source of income should be the focus if they need to improve the economy. IF bitcoin can have some kinda influence on this, it can stabilize the country's economy.
Bitcoin cannot actually and those who are thinking bitcoin is just some magical stuff that would just bring about a solution to a country's economy, they are absolutely living in a dream's world.

Stabilization of economy has to do with a lot of things, which is mostly linked to industrialization and production within the country, the management of natural resources for the greater good within the country and how people are able to do well for themselves generally to a large extent. Bitcoin is just a currency and a piece of a puzzle, but not made to just provide a solution to a country's economy but can actually help greatly if utilized properly amongst other things.
4063  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The market began to show a change from the red zone to the green zone. on: October 11, 2018, 01:23:38 PM
I certainly watch the cryptocurrency market with great excitement and awe, and recently it was possible to observe that the coin market showed a change from the red zone to the green zone. There is a possibility that prices will rise again, not as much as last year, but I think we need to hold our assets longer.Do you think that the time has come when the cryptocurrency market began to recover?
I have talked about this in details somewhere else. Bitcoin and all other crypto currencies has been in a stagnant mode for months now. People kept talking about how we are in a bear market and all that but when coins are staying still that's not bear market, that's stagnant market, in general when after a bear market a stagnant market comes it followed by a bull market.

Which means we are going to get a great bull run soon, I do not know when but it will be soon. We were not in a "red zone" for the past 4 months or so, we have been in a "grey" zone if we have to color it something.
4064  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bottom of BTC descending channel is 3000$? on: October 10, 2018, 01:36:55 PM
$3,000 is just too low. Price wont even touch close to $5,000. And if ever that happens it will just entice more holders to buy more and hold as everyone is anticipating the price of Bitcoin to break $20,000 USD by December again granting that there will be no other bups ahead like a major news that will shake Bitcoin again.
I understand the indicators and the calculations behind the 3000 dollar deal. I really do. However just because the charts are telling you that the bottom could be 3000 doesn't really mean it will go that down. What charts do not show you that there are a lot of people who would buy as much bitcoin as they can literally afford if bitcoin goes below certain limit.

There are miners there are traders there are whales so many people who would take out their check books and spend as much as possible to keep the bitcoin price over a certain limit. Chart may say 3k however people won't allow that to happen ever.
4065  Economy / Speculation / Re: DO NOT GIVE UP !! on: October 09, 2018, 11:27:14 AM
I do not feel like the drop in price is the trouble with bitcoin and I am not considering getting out because it went down. I feel like the swings are the problem, I feel like going up and down this quickly doesn't make it easy to accept bitcoin as a payment option.

You can take any amount of money you want from your customers for bitcoin and when the money is with you are not getting exactly the same amount. If you cash out right away you may get something close however if you do not than your money swings like crazy up or down. I feel like stabilizing would kill bitcoin but also swings are killing it for me as well.
4066  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Future of ETH? on: October 08, 2018, 01:28:20 PM
It's been a long time since Ethereum is performing below it's standards as we all remember even when the value of bitcoin dripped ridiculously still the value of ethereum was good but now from past 3 months wherein ethereum is struggling to survive. Will it reach $1000 market before this year end ?
I think it is going to keep what its doing, the problem with eth is that the amount of people who are selling their ETH will never got low because in the end when you create an ICO on eth blockchain people are sending their ETH to the ICO owner and they are getting whatever token or coin it is.

In return that ICO owner sells his ethereum whenever he needs to pay something and gets money back for stuff he needs to pay. Which means eth has a vicious circle of sellers and buyers, people buy to pay for ICO and ICO owners sell to pay for stuff. As soon as people start to not buy for ICO and the ICO owners of the old kept on selling it became very low valued.
4067  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: trading outside of crypto? on: October 08, 2018, 12:01:55 PM
Hello I didn't know anything about trading until I first started trading monero on poloniex when it was like $5. Now I've learned a lot just from trading and mining crypto but my only experience is with crypto.

So I guess this is backwards but now I would like to try trading or investing outside of crypto....is that stocks?...see I have no clue what everything is called. Are there trading sites like bittrex etc?

what is the differences between a crypto exchange and a "stock exchange" that trades in dollars? Do you have to provide ID? Are they easier to fund in dollars?

Is there anything like a Trade Satoshi where I can just practice with small amounts?

Thanks for any information


I think there are two things wrong with what you are trying to achieve. First of all this is crypto forum, this is "bitcoin"talk so whatever you are trying to do outside of bitcoin you should go do it on their forums and learn from them, we here are bitcoin traders and not stock traders.

However if we put that aside you should also know that if you want to trade stocks that will not be similar to bitcoin. In crypto we have huge swings so there are people who keep making money and who keep losing money and everything in between, in stocks things move much slower so you will not see these kinds of moves. People who make %20 in stocks considered to be genius whereas %20 is easy to achieve in bitcoin, up or down.
4068  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin will touch 20K USD end of 2018. What you think ? on: October 06, 2018, 11:42:28 AM
This is my own opinion that Bitcoin will touch 20K USD end of 2018. What your thought about it ?

It's been a couple of months that btc value doesn't move further and still people are hoping for the betterment of its price. As a crypto users, I won't stop  promoting with this technology due to its potential value in the future.
Everything is possible in bitcoin because definitely when demands will  gradually increases FOMO will set in people who are just observant of the prices will  surely come in and those people are  the price catalyst to bullish.
yeah, all it might be, but we have to be realistic and look at the facts. I think that for this year the price will tend to be stable, and it will be difficult for this year's back to $20k. I think next year it might be waiting for some the growth, such as etf approved bitcoin, and then fomo and yeah it can make price increases.
Yeah, and if we want to be realistic and look at the facts right now, we would know that the likelihood of ever seeing bitcoin hit $20000 at the end of the year is close to impossible. Unless we get to see some huge news that could maybe skyrocket demand and not just some fake move upwards with a dump afterwards, and almost everyone is looking to buy and not selling, we may see something like that happen, but with the way things are now, where we are presently, and the fact that we only have few months before the end of the year, I do not see $20k as something plausible as well.
4069  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Trading, campaigns, gambling or mining? on: October 05, 2018, 11:03:28 AM
I think all of this can be profitable but having a difference from the highest level of risk is gambling because when you lose you will lose your assets, you better trade and become a campaign participant and if you can assemble and run mining tools.

Yes, most of the money we lose them in gambling only we don't know who is going to get benefits from it. So the best way to make money is through trading because we might analysis here to make a profit. Coming to bounty campaign it is a very good way to promote the ICO in order to make some profit after the crowdsale.
Anyone who is even using gambling as a footstool to make money is only living in a fool’s paradise as far as I am concerned. Gambling should never be among the list of anyone who wants to make money but should only be on the list of those who want to lose money.

There are so many productive ways to make money and part of it is trading even though it requires great deal of knowledge and experience to do well, same as mining. The only easy one which a lot of people have been doing for a while now is campaigns as you really do not have anything to learn or anything to lose in this case.
4070  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is bitcoin worthy to buy ? right now? on: October 05, 2018, 10:21:56 AM
Right now bitcoin price is very low, some investor are investing their money for buying bitcoin.
is bitcoin worthy to buy ? right now?
Do you agree with this or not ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,???

I want to believe that is a question only you can answer. Do you believe bitcoin has a future? What are the benefits you have to gain in the future and how do you see people perceiving its usage? What do you think makes bitcoin actually tick when it comes to payment system.

Once you know all of this, you will be able to know that buying bitcoin at any stage right now is a good price and let alone, buying now that it is in a dip is even a whole lot better as you are getting at a much discounted price. What I usually say is buy the dips, keep buying the dips and never stop buying the dips.
4071  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Can the world really go digital with crypto? on: October 04, 2018, 09:51:50 AM
Imagine, looking at gge current dip we are facing, can we say the world is already getting tired of blockchain innovation? I hope not. I know we have got a long way to go.
World is not tired of blockchain - this technology is not introduced in our lives, only in cryptocurrency for now as I know, and even cryptos are used by not a big amount of people(approximately 1000000 people in the whole world).
Good times for blockchain are yet to come
Definitely! We are still in the very early stages of cryptocurrency and for the fact that we have not been seeing real life usage and what almost everyone cares about now is to get rich anyway, it is hard to say we have gotten there yet and with that, it is obvious there is still enough room for growth in the long run.

Blockchain is the future and there is no doubt about that and so far we have been seeing a lot of development that has been popping up and even without cryptocurrency the world is already going digital, so what is there to say that in the long run or some generation to come, things will not end up being digital?
4072  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do you manage your profits in trading? on: October 03, 2018, 10:32:55 AM
I know it's advisable to buy low and sell your coin at a higher price. What I don't understand is that when you sell high, do you suppose to buy so that your profit will not depreciate when the price is going low? I need an expert to clarify me, Thanks.
No need to have an expert advise because this is just really a basic thing.Come to understand that buybacks wont really be worth anytime.Just take the profits and move on which you should not tend to buy again if the price goes low because not all coins will significantly rise its price unless if you do see high liquidity or volume then doing these shortings would really be possible but wont really be that easy for sure.
I wonder what he was even trying to get at with his question as he already answered himself even with the first question he asked about it being advisable. It is definitely the way to go, you buy when you everyone is selling and the market has shown some real bottom after some downtrend with the possibilities of recovering and then with that you are able to look forward to selling the peak when everyone is busy FOMOing.

Your profit is there to increase what you have in the long run, and the thing here is that as long as you consider money management in whatever you do, you will always be good.
4073  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: jason derulo will make his own coin? on: September 29, 2018, 01:40:12 PM
OP maybe it would be ok to tell us ignorant people like me who Jason Derulo is? Is he celebrity or he has something to do with cryptocurrencies?
Grin Google up bro! It is not that hard. Jason Derulo is a U.S Singer and dancer who has been able to make some name for himself over the years, at least, I am sure he has some pretty good fans which I am one of them anyway and then he is thinking because of that, he can just easily offload some shit coins on us and then we will buy it because we are his fans? He must really have been high on some cheap weed when he made that decision. People are more enlightened that this, and there is no doubt there will be some gullible people who will fall for this crap and really, this is why we just need some form of regulation to stop this kind of bullshit from happening.
4074  Economy / Speculation / Re: Three things not to do when Bitcoin prices are down on: September 29, 2018, 12:45:13 PM
I think the most popular thing to do on this forum is to just HODL. I tend to take a break from crypto when the price is in decline.
Looking at most of the things that have been said by the OP, it can only be applicable to someone who knows how to trade, who can identify a bottom and a market about switching trends, who would obviously know when to sell and all of that.

Generally, this is a decision a bunch of people may not be able to make since they have little or no knowledge to some of the ways they can make this a reality which in this case, and like you said, the best thing is to just HODL what you have, buy and keep buying as the market keeps going down and never dropping the HODL idea from your head in any case.

As long as you are not joining FOMO and you are not panicking as a result of FUD to sell at loss, but rather take advantage of a bleeding market, then you will be fine.
4075  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Main reason behind crypto currencies red market in 2018 on: September 28, 2018, 12:50:23 PM
This is worst for bitoin because the prices are not increase, again and again the price keeps on falling. So many negative news spread about bitcoin through social medias. This makes bitcoin value keeps on falling and most of the investors get panic about the price drop this mkes market more worst.
For a senior member, I thought by now people that has spent much time on this forum should know better that market will not just start skyrocketing immediately and it will always take its time most especially when it is trying to find a direction.

Leaving the market because of fraud for anyone should not be an excuse as far as I am concerned, because for a lot of it, the ability to identify a scam or fraud or to be able to stay secured, is something learnable except that people are always just too lazy to learn.

The red market is just a normal part of any market, and it is always a good time to buy but people tend to only see the negativity to it and that is what makes them miss out.
4076  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: My luck is very bad for crypto trading 😞 on: September 28, 2018, 12:11:52 PM
I think my luck is very bad. I can not earn good profits on cryptocurrency trading any day. An example of this is Doge coin. I invested in Doge coin probably 2 months ago. Which I bought 39 satoshi and bought a total of 126000 doge coins. It was almost 2-3 weeks, I did not check the price. But when I check price on coinmarketcap a few days ago, see Doge coin 100 satoshi cross. After that I was very happy. But when I login into exchange, for selling Doge coin, I was shocked, seeing that my coins were sold in 49 satoshi. I did not remember when I had a sell order. After seeing that I was upset. That was not the first time, before several times, I could not sell many coins at a good price 😞


But finally, an education has realized that if you buy a coin for long or short time, then you should check price minimum one time every day.
like that it is not a problem of luck or not, you are too careless when setting prices if that is the case, for the exchange itself will not be responsible when there is a customer who misplaced the price, and talking about luck in Cryptocurreny trading in my opinion that is not enough , if you do trading at least use analysis don't just buy it

What people are not realizing in the trading environment is that this is not gambling and that is how a lot of people actually take it, while depending on luck to bail them out each time and then making horrible buying and selling decisions without any plan at all.

It is not about luck, it is about the knowledge that you have to be able to pull a trading decision through. As long as you get ignorant of the fact that you have to learn to be able to do well at anything at all in life, you will always want to expect luck to be the main driving factor for yourself, but even in real life, things are not always so.
4077  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bottom of BTC descending channel is 3000$? on: September 25, 2018, 12:10:55 PM
Things were quite active in the cryptocurrency space, and the correction took place on most of the bubble markets after some digital assets hit an all-time high. The mainstream media is reporting on Bitcoin's price increase. The possibility of bitcoin breaking the $ 3000 range and finding new highs is not a problem.
I do not even know why people tend to consider a low price as a problem in the first place. I guess that is one of the reasons why the whales and those who are smart players or institutional players will always have an upper hand in the market.

People tend to chicken away when everything is going bad, rather than looking for the opportunity within those moments for their own good. If price descends that low to the bottom of the descending wedge, then it just makes it a great time to be buying into the market.
4078  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Buy or Not on: September 22, 2018, 09:58:26 AM
Start crypto trading now is less risk than previous month because all crypto already going down to 70% to 90% since January, and when the price going down to that low will be have probability to going up to the highest again. I just understanding about price action of crypto and should be i sold all coin in december and buy back right now.
Well, I would not consider it something risky if you know what you are doing. Every time is risky as long as you are trading, and the only time it gets at least a little bit easier is when the market is in an uptrend, which for now it is not, and that makes people with less experience and knowledge to get battered in any downtrend market easily.

For an investor however, it is a good time to be buying any market as long as you believe in its long term prospect and the market is down enough to get in. At least, it is still far better than joining FOMO.
4079  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: I just dump my coins for other coins on: September 21, 2018, 10:35:34 AM
This is probably my 5th time changing coins. At the moment I dump coins for dash , verge , and eos. I'm hoping for returns for the year. I am not looking for monthly returns anymore but yearly. I'm not bullish on dash or verge. But hopefully I get lucky.
I dump all my bitcoins and dump all my ether. Saying goodbye.

why don't just hold and wait  Huh i thought everyone saying year end price will rise? latest news starbuck accepted crypto  Cool
Unless maybe the coins he has been holding are not worth holding, then I would say he is making a good choice. However, I wonder why of all coins, he would be looking for hyped coins like verge that everyone is trying to get out from. It is one thing to be leaving an investment for another, and it is another thing to be entering a better investment.

Anyway, it is his risk to take, and for what it is worth, I would rather go for altcoins with at least solid community which has gone down hugely than Verge. Dash and EOS though is still a good choice.
4080  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ICO scammers, Sell your uploaded KYC ID documents, adress for a lot of money. on: September 17, 2018, 12:39:12 PM
I think that ICO scammers will not just take off with your invested money.

Probably also they selling your ID. proof of Identity + Selfie + proof of Residenz
Uploaded KYC ID documents + selfies and address data are sold with large quantities on the darkweb, which are probably collected via scam projects.

What do you think?.

check these screenshots for example




This adres http://wallstyizjhkrvmj.onion where they sell that shit



We just have to lose money just to lose kyc for ico scam. So I think kc when ico is not successful is not really necessary. We have nothing to protect ourselves, no law. Too easy to make a scam behavior.
That is not what this is all about. This is about those who were a victim of a scam project and they did not just lose their funds, but their data from KYC is being sold in the dark market for a lot of money. In that vein, there is no way someone who has been in such category will not feel betrayed by the system but this is pointless. What anyone should be doing now is to focus on not falling for such in the long run. Once beaten, twice shy!
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