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4061  Economy / Gambling / Re: Share your experience about new bitcoin casino on: February 13, 2017, 06:09:53 AM
Cool site.

I prefer this though.
I would avoid affiliates who list the publicly proven betcoin.ag scam at any costs!
4062  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: New casino vs old and trusted one on: February 13, 2017, 05:31:47 AM
Old gambling sites more have an experience regarding fixing the problem/bug and making a promotion. Yet new casino has a potential to be a trustworthy one like Bitsler did. When new sites coming up currently, and have any similarity I'm going to old sites.

It is a mixed bag. Look at Satoshi Dice today - absolute mess of a site.
Satoshi dice used to be one of the biggest if not the biggest dice site, but since then many other good casinos have open shop and have taken the spot out of the hands of satoshi dice, satoshi dice used to have a signature campaign in the forum but they pull that off as well, maybe they were not getting the results they wanted.
Did SatoshiDice inform you why they withdrew their signature campaign?

Is there a site where you can compare the revenue of dice sites?

Do you know why betcoin.ag reduced their signature campaign to max 100 posts per month in December 2016? Since then, betcoin.ag is in free fall on  
Alexa Global Rank: 158,569 - 50,100 = 48% down!

Was it a good idea to limit their signature campaign and the free fall is caused by something else?

Discussion here: Let us talk about a Bitcoin poker room in free fall, betcoin.ag
4063  Economy / Gambling / Re: Any bitcoin casinos with HIGH LIMIT blackjack games and INSTANT withdrawals ? on: February 13, 2017, 04:02:03 AM
Instant withdrawals require the website's hot wallet has enough fund. For blackjack, I have PM you the largest blackjack betting limit site,aka betcoin, 5 btc max per hand, you should be like that. Just register the link I shared you and try your luck. Best wishes to your blackjack journey.
Yup, always a good idea to play rigged blackjack with 5 BTC per bet Is betsoft blackjack rigged?, especially if it is featured by the publicly proven
Betcoin.ag scam! and preferably while they are in free fall on Alexa Let us talk about a Bitcoin poker room in free fall, betcoin.ag!
4064  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcoin Gambling Investments on: February 13, 2017, 03:42:24 AM
For me heres my bucket list in Bitcoin Gambling Investment.
1. Betcoin.ag
2. Fortunejack
3. Bustabit
4. 777 dice
5. Sportsbet
6. Satoshimines
Try it. And you will enjoy playing it.


I am sure you cannot invest in all or any of those sites....
You can invest in betcoin.ag thru playing their slots, because they use your jackpot win to pay their business expenses.

Unfortunately, their business model is not sustainable and you will never receive a return on investment. Sad
4065  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Poker Sites for US Players on: February 13, 2017, 03:35:18 AM
@game-protect. This forum is based around trust and many here depend on that to make deals and trades. Reputation also counts and that goes hand in hand with the community's trust on the people who have the right to say what is a scam or what is not. You talk like you have a say on things yet I see your trust ratings is red. How can we trust you?
Use your analysis skills?

Game Protect has pending cases in the height of over US $1 million, why would I try to scam anyone? I can make much more money longtherm = no reason to scam!

I offer 5 BTC for proof of who I scammed and for how much since over 1 week and no one of the BitcoinTalk community was able to deliver any. How laughable must this be for the liars and attackers?

Negative feedback

People regularly refer to the negative feedback, but did you read it? Were you able to find any substantial statement where I breached the trust of anybody?

If not, why would I be "untrustworthy" based on those feedbacks?

I want to protect the Bitcoin community and I want to see Bitcoin become more famous. Bitcoin is a blessing for the online gaming and betting community for several reasons, but unfortunately, there are some shady individuals out there who want to take advantage of it thru defrauding the community:

I call out those criminals and they attack me not only in the forum, but also in my feedback section. It is as simple as that. They tried to destroy me, tried to mislead the community to not use my service and fight against them. But they failed and Game Protect is already successful. Smiley
4066  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Poker Sites for US Players on: February 13, 2017, 01:22:31 AM
I play at Betcoin all the time and haven't ever had any issues. However, if it turns you off, there's always nitrogensports
How is the Sit & Go and cash game traffic on NitrogenSports compared with betcoin.ag? Similiar?

Honestly, I think Nitrogensports has more people playing certain times. I log onto Betcoin and sometimes can't find a table to sit at because there's just not that many people playing. I have also ran into a few bots at betcoin
Considering that betcoin.ag lost 48% within 2 months on Alexa Global Rank, it would make sense that NitrogenSports has meanwhile a larger player base.

Your impression would be also confirmed if you compare the ranks of both:

- NitrogenSports Alexa ranks: Global Rank: 50,924 + 14,144 = 22% up   Rank in US: 12,337

- Betcoin.ag Alexa ranks: Global Rank: 165,138  - 58,004 = 51% down   Rank in US: 74,174  
4067  Economy / Gambling discussion / Let us talk about a Bitcoin poker room in free fall, betcoin.ag on: February 13, 2017, 12:45:21 AM
The betcoin.ag scam is in free fall on Alexa Global Rank: 169,632 - 67,737 = 65% down within 3 months!

What do you think, will they go out of business soon?

They limited the signature campaign payment for their 70 promoters to only 100 posts per month in December 2016. Could this be the reason why they fall so heavily?  
4068  Economy / Services / Re: Get 5 BTC for proof who Game Protect scammed and for how much? on: February 12, 2017, 10:55:52 PM
I say you are a scamer and I can prove it!

My prof is that you falsely promised to sent 5 BTC to the one that proves that you are a scamer, but you don't want to escrow the amount.

I would give you the address to sent the 5 BTC because I proved to you that you are a scamer, but exactly because you are a scamer I know you wouldn't sent it.


Here is you prof.

Daaamn. He got you there OP. All the while beating me to the punch. Congrats on the detective work. Spend your 5 BTC wisely.
But heavily! Cheesy

Unfortunately, the error in his "logic" is that so far no one was able to deliver proof of who I scammed and for how much:

1) No proof = no obligation to send 5 BTC

2) No obligation to send 5 BTC = no falsely promised to send 5 BTC

And if not excrow something would mean = scammed someone, then this would mean that gaming and betting sites scammed millions of players and bettors. Is this true?

do you know legal gambling and betting websites hold license and they get license only on bank guarantee.
Nice fairy tale! Cheesy


do you know procedure of getting ukgc or curacao license?i know you dont know anything just know none of the licensing sites are cheaters.their escrow is bank guarantee which they have to give while taking license.and if case filed against them and proved then they cannot scam as court will order and pay to winner from that bank guarantee deposited money
- Curacao has no bank guarantee:

The only advantage of a Curacao license for players is that the identity of the owner/operator is known and you can sue them!

- UKGC has no bank guarantee:

They gave Win Cake poker an UK license, while Win Cake already owed over US $1 million to players and still owe.

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i m in UK, Wincake frozen my account, i still have around $5K on it, they dont want to transfer my funds to other skin and dont want to pay me.
I contacted UKGC and they washed their hands, they say that wincake isnt licensed with them anymore.
Wincake obviously doesnt reply to my mails so what should i do next?

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showpost.php?p=51027128&postcount=6401

Game Protect advice: Win Cake Poker + Juicy Stakes
4069  Economy / Gambling / Re: Investing in Bitcoin Casinos on: February 12, 2017, 07:34:40 AM
I'm currently looking to casinos who accept Bitcoin as an investment to their sites. Do you happen to know any of it which is legit? I know that there some suggestions few pages back but I want to know the existing ones in 2017. And if you have any suggestion, do you have any experience with them in the past?
Bitcoin Gambling Investments
4070  Economy / Gambling / Re: Share your experience about new bitcoin casino on: February 12, 2017, 07:25:09 AM
Laws and Jurisdictions (from http://newbitcoincasino.co/)

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- There are none
Each jurisdiction has laws and a gambling site can not operate out of no jurisdiction and players can not play out of no jurisdiction.
  
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- Assume the same legal status as fiat gambling
No, if Bitcoin is not considered as a public currency, then the legal status is different.
    
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- You, the casino gambler are at no risk from law enforcement
Um, if it is not allowed by the laws of your jurisdiction, then you are very well at risk if you don't use a good VPN!
    
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- The Gambling Operator is breaking the law and is at risk from law enforcement
There are probably jurisdictions where Bitcoin gambling is not illegal, if it is not considered as a public currency.
4071  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Poker Sites for US Players on: February 12, 2017, 05:18:42 AM
I would advice staying clear of BetOnline.  I have heard stories of them withholding cashouts of players from Twoplustwo.  I really don't know what happened but I think they lure the players in by offering large bonuses.  Then all the terms are in very fine print where it's hard to be read.  According to some stories a poker player made a deposit of 5k USD or something, played poker and then later found out he had to gamble 3x that amount in their sports book.

I'm not sure about the details but it was something like that.  They should have made things clear with their customers before they let them deposit very large amounts.
Something like this and something like that..., why not simply post the link from twoplustwo, so everyone can read what happened there?

Curiously that sportsbookreview (SBR) users give BetOnline an A+ rating.

Did betcoin.ag made clear that they will not pay a 500 Bitcoins jackpot? You were a participant of the betcoin.ag signature campaign and still defend them. Roll Eyes

How can someone recommend this poker room: ►►BETCOIN.AG- [Uncensored] Ƀitcoin Poker, Sports, Casino & Affiliate Community◄◄

I'll try to find that thread.  In the mean time I found this a bit interesting too.

BETONLINE SCAM: employees know player passwords, players hacked, unpaid, etc.
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28/internet-poker/betonline-scam-employees-know-player-passwords-players-hacked-unpaid-etc-1224459/

Here's an interesting comment from a 2p2er.  'Sbr' meaning sportsbookreview.com.  Anyway you get the point.

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no point, sbr is getting money from them. they have been known to help with stuff like this, but they censor their own forums heavily

I personally don't care about paid ratings, as long as I know who the operator is and can sue him if he committed criminal offenses against qualified Game Protect consumer protection accounts.

Every site receive complaints sooner or later and larger sites basically more, while betcoin.ag is a negative exception. This is not the problem, the key point is how the site handle complaints.

And in the case of BetOnline, you have the possibility to initiate a court case in Panama, if you have proof of treaten unfair., while the betcoin.ag scam is hiding!

BetOnline has also a support thread on 2+2 and I read nothing that would lead me to not support them. I trust you can see the difference between betcoin.ag and BetOnline?

And if you can recommend betcoin.ag, then you can recommend any other US poker site! I personally would not recommend a publicly proven scam and who is in the free fall recently, but everyone has his own opinion and taste. Smiley
4072  Economy / Gambling / Re: Investing in Bitcoin Casinos on: February 12, 2017, 03:49:04 AM
I think it is also good to invest your btc in online btc casino so you can also earn while they are also earning money.
Even if you play there just to have fun and lose, it is okay because you invested there so you are also winning.,  Cheesy
Is there an automatic warranty that online btc casinos have a win?

Casinos have a house edge towards players, but this doesn't necessarily mean that their revenue is higher than their monthly costs or initial investment costs.
4073  Economy / Services / Re: Get 5 BTC for proof who Game Protect scammed and for how much? on: February 12, 2017, 12:25:49 AM
I say you are a scamer and I can prove it!

My prof is that you falsely promised to sent 5 BTC to the one that proves that you are a scamer, but you don't want to escrow the amount.

I would give you the address to sent the 5 BTC because I proved to you that you are a scamer, but exactly because you are a scamer I know you wouldn't sent it.


Here is you prof.

Daaamn. He got you there OP. All the while beating me to the punch. Congrats on the detective work. Spend your 5 BTC wisely.
But heavily! Cheesy

Unfortunately, the error in his "logic" is that so far no one was able to deliver proof of who I scammed and for how much:

1) No proof = no obligation to send 5 BTC

2) No obligation to send 5 BTC = no falsely promised to send 5 BTC

And if not excrow something would mean = scammed someone, then this would mean that gaming and betting sites scammed millions of players and bettors. Is this true?
4074  Economy / Services / Re: Get 5 BTC for proof who Game Protect scammed and for how much? on: February 11, 2017, 07:23:04 AM
Yes I pretty much said in other words "it doesn't necessarily prove the points to the entire community". I don't know if English is your native language but that is totally different from saying "it doesn't prove the points to the entire community". The key word necessarily means we don't know if the points were proven to the entire community or not.
I fully understand the difference between "it doesn't necessarily prove the points to the entire community" and it doesn't prove the points to the entire community".

What I don't understand is the intention of your statement?

Of course do we not know if the points were proven to the entire community. We even don't know if a larger or a smaller part of the entire community see my points as proven or not.

But what is the problem?

Everyone has the opportunity to state his opinion and you still didn't state your opinion?  Smiley
4075  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Poker Sites for US Players on: February 11, 2017, 07:11:25 AM
I play at Betcoin all the time and haven't ever had any issues. However, if it turns you off, there's always nitrogensports
How is the Sit & Go and cash game traffic on NitrogenSports compared with betcoin.ag? Similiar?
4076  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Poker Sites for US Players on: February 11, 2017, 06:06:10 AM
I would advice staying clear of BetOnline.  I have heard stories of them withholding cashouts of players from Twoplustwo.  I really don't know what happened but I think they lure the players in by offering large bonuses.  Then all the terms are in very fine print where it's hard to be read.  According to some stories a poker player made a deposit of 5k USD or something, played poker and then later found out he had to gamble 3x that amount in their sports book.

I'm not sure about the details but it was something like that.  They should have made things clear with their customers before they let them deposit very large amounts.
Something like this and something like that, why not simply post the link from twoplustwo, so everyone can read what happened there?

Curiously that sportsbookreview (SBR) users give BetOnline an A+ rating.

Did betcoin.ag made clear that they will not pay a 500 Bitcoins jackpot? You were a participant of the betcoin.ag signature campaign and still defend them. Roll Eyes

How can someone recommend this poker room: ►►BETCOIN.AG- [Uncensored] Ƀitcoin Poker, Sports, Casino & Affiliate Community◄◄
4077  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why we still gambling while we always lose? on: February 11, 2017, 05:56:57 AM
That's a law that we all just loose in the long run. Those gambling theories that should help you to win work only like 1:1000 cases. And there is another rule - a casino never loose. So I gamble only for fun and just in the case if I get free ticket on some gambling site.
If you play with -EV, the law is that you will lose longtherm and if you play with +EV (like skill based games), the law is that you will win longtherm.

A casino can also lose, if the revenue don't cover the monthly costs. If a casino could never lose, then you could simply open a casino and would always win. But this is obviously not the case, as the revenue of the total gaming and betting market is limited.
4078  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Poker Sites for US Players on: February 11, 2017, 05:35:38 AM
NitrogenSports (anonym, instant) https://game-protect.com/nitrogensports-details/


For fiat poker sites that accept Bitcoin deposits, there's also Bodog Poker aka Bovada.  I think they're known as Ignition now, I'm not sure.  You can check online if that's the case.  But I would still Bitcoiners to play at true blue Bitcoin poker sites like Betcoin and at Nitrogensport's poker tables.  SWC used to be good but traffic now is so low to nonexistent.
Bodog is only for Canada and South America players.

Betcoin.ag is not only a publicly proven scam, but they have also only 20 players in average. In addition, their Alexa Global Rank dropped 42% within the last 2 months and their motto recently is cut, cut, cut! These are very alarming signals!
4079  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Investing in casinos on: February 11, 2017, 05:24:01 AM
I would like to invest in a casino business that gives me dividends, it's the only way to always win on a casino... to invest in a successful one. If someone started a casino of bitcoin in vegas or something, that would be cool and I would visit it too. I think no online casino is offering an investment plan with stocks that pay dividends.
In this case, don't invest in betcoin.ag. They lost 42% within 2 months on Alexa Global Rank! You better run, run, run... Cheesy

How do you determine which casino is successful and which not? In the case of betcoin.ag, you obviously failed...


I guess dice sites are only accepting affordable investments for now, I have no personal issues against betcoin.ag and I have no idea they are accepting investment if not because of you, that needs to be verify yet. Choosing an investment is easy in bitcoin world as we can see some feedback here from those who have tried. Just always remember to invest in a reputable one, do not be greedy with the profit to come fast as it will not happen with investing.
I don't know if you can invest in their Dice, but if you play slots at betcoin.ag, then you automatically invest in their business, because they use jackpot wins for their business expenses.

Unfortunately, their business model isn't sustainable = no return of investment. Cry
4080  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcoin Gambling Investments on: February 11, 2017, 05:00:06 AM
Yeah I think we should keep them to remember that it wasn't all positive!

Hopefully help others from making a bad decision.
Do you think there is something wrong with SatoshiDice investment?
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