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4081  Economy / Economics / Re: Fidelity just made it easier for hedge funds and other pros to invest in crypto on: November 07, 2018, 12:13:38 PM
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Financial services giant Fidelity is taking a huge step into cryptocurrency.

The 72-year-old firm announced the launch of a separate company, Fidelity Digital Asset Services, on Monday that will handle cryptocurrency custody and trade execution for institutional investors.

"Our goal is to make digitally native assets, such as bitcoin, more accessible to investors," Fidelity Investments Chairman and CEO Abigail Johnson said in a press release. "We expect to continue investing and experimenting, over the long-term, with ways to make this emerging asset class easier for our clients to understand and use."

Tom Jessop, head of Fidelity Digital Assets, said the idea of commercializing a standalone crypto company began in the middle of last year.

For now, its services are available to institutions such as hedge funds, endowments and family offices but not to the retail investor.

"We saw that there were certain things institutions needed that only a firm like Fidelity could provide," Jessop told CNBC, adding that it already works with 13,000 institutional clients. "We've got some technology that we've repurposed from other parts of Fidelity — we can leverage all of the resources of a big organization."

Fidelity is nothing if not big. It administers $7.2 trillion in customer assets, has 27 million customers, and spends $2.5 billion per year on technology, partially through incubators that house its artificial intelligence and blockchain projects. The new digital asset company was born out of Fidelity Center for Applied Technology, or FCAT as employees call it.

The new company will handle custody, or how to safely store digital assets. Crypto companies Coinbase, Gemini (run by the Winklevoss twins), BitGo, Ledger and ItBit are among those already working on similar solutions. Japanese bank Nomura also announced plans in May to offer crypto custody, and Goldman Sachs and Northern Trust are reportedly exploring custodial services. But until now, there's been a noticeable lack of a big U.S.-based incumbent like Fidelity officially entering the space.

Part of the risk in cryptocurrency investing, which experts say has largely barred institutions from embracing these digital assets, is how to prevent them from being hacked. As of the end of June, $1.6 billion in cryptocurrency had been stolen from clients, according to CoinDesk's 2018 State of Blockchain Report.


Cybersecurity a focus
Fidelity has a long history of dealing with enterprise security, as well as public and private key cryptography to make sure it isn't part of that statistic. Its custody solution will include vaulted "cold storage," which involves taking the cryptocurrency offline, and multilevel physical and cyber controls, among other security protocols that have been created leveraging Fidelity's security principles from other parts of the business.

"You might look at the crypto world and say, 'Wow, is this a new thing?' but we've been managing key materials for a long time," Jessop said. "We took our learnings in how to run enterprise security, then through our exploration of bitcoin and some of the people we've hired, quickly developed some of the crypto native expertise and federated the two of those things."

Despite a slump in prices and news of hacks and fraud, acceptance among institutions for cryptocurrency is growing.

Yale's well-known chief investment officer, David Swensen, who manages the school's $29.4 billion endowment, has invested in two funds dedicated to cryptocurrencies, sources told CNBC. Other endowments — for Harvard University, Stanford University, Dartmouth College, Massachusetts Institute of Technology and the University of North Carolina — have also reportedly made allocations in at least one cryptocurrency fund, The Information reported.

The move by Fidelity may encourage more to do so.

In addition to storing cryptocurrencies, Fidelity Digital Assets will use an existing internal crossing engine and smart order router for trade execution. This order router will allow Fidelity institutional customers to execute trades for bitcoin, ether and other assets at multiple market venues. While Jessop didn't say which ones, he said cryptocurrency exchanges have to comply with the same "Fidelity standard" applied in other parts of the business.

"We have a pretty extensive onboarding procedure for these types of counterparties, which involves diligence on their financial strength as well as their regulatory procedures like 'know your customer' and anti-money laundering," he said. "We are certainly only going to connect to those counterparties that we feel good about."

Fidelity's crypto ambitions
Jessop said the project is largely a result of Johnson's early interest. The CEO led the charge into cryptocurrency, one of the riskiest and most volatile asset classes of the past year, as early as 2014.

Fidelity has a few existing cryptocurrency projects: It started bitcoin "mining" at a location in New Hampshire when the digital asset's price was around $180, has a partnership with Coinbase that allows Fidelity customers to check their cryptocurrency balances on the Fidelity app, and in 2015, started facilitating charitable donations in bitcoin.


Johnson "is very interested in this and stays up on developments in the space in quite a significant way," said Jessop, who joined Fidelity in January from cryptocurrency start-up Chain and before that spent 17 years at Goldman Sachs.

The new standalone company, which has about 100 employees and will be headquartered in Boston, is in the process of onboarding its first clients now and will be in the market and "generally available" sometime in early 2019.

Cryptocurrency prices, meanwhile, are still struggling to recover. Bitcoin is down more than 50 percent this year and has yet to get back to its all-time high near $20,000.

Still, Jessop said neither Fidelity nor institutions it services are distracted by price. He compared the technology's long-term potential with moving financial services to the internet.

"No one said when some of these early-stage Internet companies in 2000 were going out of business, 'Gee, the Internet is toast,'" Jessop said. "We don't focus too much on the price. It's a foundational technology — people are trying to get exposure to the trend and expect volatility in the assets themselves."

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/15/fidelity-launches-trade-execution-and-custody-for-cryptocurrencies.html

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There's a chance the recent decline in bitcoin's price we've witnessed is linked to this development. Hedge funds and whales could be pushing the price of bitcoin down to create an entry point for themselves to buy in. This could represent another indication bitcoin is hitting the prime time, although without the vast leaps in price valuation many of us expected. Perhaps we still might still see a price spike around black friday and christmas holidays?

Data points on their infrastructure utilizing cold storage reminded me of xapo storing bitcoin in nuclear bomb shelters--I wonder what ever happened to them. Seems like there hasn't been a reference made to them in some time.
I would not be surprised with your comment regarding the institutions trying to drive the price down for entry point and of course it is very obvious that they will want to make sure they are gaining a huge position in this space, and as a result of that, make sure that they are picking at a very good price or at least something reasonable.

We all know that institutions can definitely not be buying at the peaks, and for the fact that this space is more speculative in nature, decentralized, and no much regulation, trying to manipulate the value to their advantage by shaking out weak hands mostly, is something we will get to see.
4082  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Will you still continue? on: November 07, 2018, 09:43:20 AM
What will you do if after losing several times in gambling, you are left with only small amount of money and that money will be for your fuel or for transportation, will you still continue with the little you are left with? What if you lose?

Gamble is a gamble, so no matter the cost a gambler will always bet whether is his last or he has a lot to wage. But if you are an intermediate gambler then you should have a limit on how much you can afford to bet whether a win or a loss.


Every person must have a target for the day so that whether they lose it would be maximum amount they can afford to lose it. This will enable them not to go overboard as if they do not have nay goal then they may end up losing a lot more than they would even expected before entering the casino.
How I wish a lot of people actually do have that mentality that when it comes to gambling, there is actually nothing for them, unless their luck is bigger than everyone else that is gambling, which in this case is very hard to come by.

Losing and continuing to lose the more in gambling, is a definition of someone who is trying to recover loss, and then chasing something they will end up not finding eventually. Anyone who wants to gamble and still at the same time, want to remain in their sane mind should always know better that gambling is something they just want to see as pure luck and nothing much should be attached to it, and then control is one thing they do not want to lose.
4083  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin trading or other business what do you choose? on: November 07, 2018, 08:06:00 AM
this depends on the business you have when you have a business that is more profitable than trading bitcoin so you can prefer your business and make bitocin trading your second job that can grow your assets, so don't let you leave bitcoin trading.
Even trading bitcoin can also be a business depending on your approach to it. One thing is sure for certain, there is no way you can do well in anything if you do not have the knowledge it takes to be able to do it right.

If you want to go into business, there are certain things you will have to learn to do well in that business, most especially the intricacies of the business you are doing and the same thing applies to trading. However, there is no harm in mixing trading with other businesses if you know how to do it right. They usually say jack of all trades, is a master of none, but I will say not in this day and age.
4084  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How to Trade cryptocurrencies comfortably with profit on: November 02, 2018, 12:48:33 PM
If you seek comfort zone in the volatile market like this then things can be worst for you and all others who will follow such mentality. There is never comfort in the crypto because things are changing very rapidly here. The profits can be made no matter what but it needs patience and continuous market watch so that one can actually study the real time situation and also up coming problem within it. The trades execution is simple but gaining the profits over the time is always challenging and there is no way one stay comfortable in it. Everyone will have to suffer one time at least as we have our money on stake.  Grin
Trading is not even something that comes so easy like that, and people tend to think they can just start getting that comfort when it comes to making profit at first.

There will always be some mistakes you will make at some point, and then over time, you will need to be able to fine tune those strategies of yours with the experience you get which basically is not something you will be able to get first without knowledge. All these require dedication and effort, and I do not see anything easy in that. Over time though, as you get better, you tend to find things easier than before, but the thing with trading is that you never stop learning.
4085  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: What's going on with crypto? on: October 25, 2018, 12:17:58 PM
The rally back in 2017 was crazy, and everybody thought, it is natural, that Bitcoin goes from 1k to 20k within a year. Now it looks like, this speed may have been too fast, but I am sure, that soon it will go back to an upward path.
That is the thing, as the natural mindset of most human is to look for a place where things are looking rosy without at least looking at the risks involved. One thing in this market is that, you cannot obviously be able to make a good decision, without at least having some knowledge and being long term focus.

At this point, all I am seeing is a market giving the opportunity for everyone to have an equal chance to buy the dips and enjoy the fortune in the long run. It is just a pity that instead of taking the opportunity now, so many people would rather prefer to be jumping in front of a moving train instead because of FOMO.
4086  Economy / Economics / Re: Philippines starting to accept and adopt cryptocurrency. on: October 25, 2018, 11:32:44 AM
Cryptocurrency transactions has been on the rise in the philippines.

They are already accepted 5 cryptocurrency company in the country and approximately planning to give license for atleast 25 companies to operate in the philippines.

With the current government administration they are starting to adopt and build even in the technological infrastructure.

In more years to come the country will be more open to blockchain technology like japan and other countries.

It is a good news that Philippines is open to adopt the innovation happening in modern world especially the blockchain technology and the cryptoworld. We can see a lot of opportunities to earn money in cryptos that can also help the country's economic growth. More people have chances to deal and invest with these cryptos cause the government believe and trust cryptos.
They just needed to understand how things works inside the blockchain and what crypto really all about, there's a lots of room to grow for this industry and each countries who able to adopt and fully used the system can get a bigger edge as if being implemented correctly it can really help the economy, usage of the system can be performed inside the government.
It is actually a very good thing for the Philippines entirely as this is a good move by the government to at least make the country a very crypto friendly space, judging from the way they have been doing things lately.

At least, with things like this, the chances of seeing more adoption within this space, taking a look at how other countries might end up seeing its positive effect on the Philippines economy, then, we will get to see more countries trying not to get left behind. I am pretty impressed that countries like this are taking the bold step to make something out of the space for their own growth in the long run.
4087  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: trading outside of crypto? on: October 19, 2018, 12:50:29 PM
Yes, it is possible. When the crypto is down, you have plenty of choices outside this market.
A whole lot of choices I must say, from Forex to stocks, options and so many more that you can always take advantage of. A lot of people are not really familiar with some of these environment as cryptocurrency actually was the main thing that opened the eyes of so many people to trading after Forex, but the crazy thing is that people are always just busy not taking the right steps in getting themselves familiar with the space they are getting into and also learning how to make trading decisions in those environment which is what has led so many people into losing their funds over the years.
4088  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How to be A Good Trader? [new] on: October 13, 2018, 02:11:51 PM
I want to Learn by myself For This I need Some Tips and Some Good Ways.Should I Learn From Online Article Or Books?What should be the Way to Learn Well.What is The First thing I Have to do. Please Give me Your Suggesstion.It Will Be Great Help For me.
First you need to have knowledge of this market and put a small amount of money to practice trading. I personally advise you to choose big exchanges as it will help you in trading easier and learn from the experts so they can help you get the best experience before becoming a real trader.
Being a good trader requires a whole lot of discipline and dedication. Dedication to learn and keep learning as much as possible is something that every wannabe trader should always imbibe as you obviously cannot have it better in the long run than taking that step to learn actually.

Also, with trading, it is necessary to take the idea of making money immediately from your head first and try as much as possible to focus on learning and practicing until you know you are ready for the real trading world. The mindset of wanting to get rich quick from trading has affected so many traders into rushing in and rushing out at the end.
4089  Economy / Economics / Re: Can Bitcoin really stabilize any country's economy level? on: October 13, 2018, 12:59:24 PM
I highly doubt bitcoin will be able to stabilize a country's economy level. The economy of any country is made up of so many aspects, and the financial ecosystem is one aspect. To stabilize a country's economy, the main source of the country's source of income should be the focus if they need to improve the economy. IF bitcoin can have some kinda influence on this, it can stabilize the country's economy.
Bitcoin cannot actually and those who are thinking bitcoin is just some magical stuff that would just bring about a solution to a country's economy, they are absolutely living in a dream's world.

Stabilization of economy has to do with a lot of things, which is mostly linked to industrialization and production within the country, the management of natural resources for the greater good within the country and how people are able to do well for themselves generally to a large extent. Bitcoin is just a currency and a piece of a puzzle, but not made to just provide a solution to a country's economy but can actually help greatly if utilized properly amongst other things.
4090  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The market began to show a change from the red zone to the green zone. on: October 11, 2018, 01:23:38 PM
I certainly watch the cryptocurrency market with great excitement and awe, and recently it was possible to observe that the coin market showed a change from the red zone to the green zone. There is a possibility that prices will rise again, not as much as last year, but I think we need to hold our assets longer.Do you think that the time has come when the cryptocurrency market began to recover?
I have talked about this in details somewhere else. Bitcoin and all other crypto currencies has been in a stagnant mode for months now. People kept talking about how we are in a bear market and all that but when coins are staying still that's not bear market, that's stagnant market, in general when after a bear market a stagnant market comes it followed by a bull market.

Which means we are going to get a great bull run soon, I do not know when but it will be soon. We were not in a "red zone" for the past 4 months or so, we have been in a "grey" zone if we have to color it something.
4091  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bottom of BTC descending channel is 3000$? on: October 10, 2018, 01:36:55 PM
$3,000 is just too low. Price wont even touch close to $5,000. And if ever that happens it will just entice more holders to buy more and hold as everyone is anticipating the price of Bitcoin to break $20,000 USD by December again granting that there will be no other bups ahead like a major news that will shake Bitcoin again.
I understand the indicators and the calculations behind the 3000 dollar deal. I really do. However just because the charts are telling you that the bottom could be 3000 doesn't really mean it will go that down. What charts do not show you that there are a lot of people who would buy as much bitcoin as they can literally afford if bitcoin goes below certain limit.

There are miners there are traders there are whales so many people who would take out their check books and spend as much as possible to keep the bitcoin price over a certain limit. Chart may say 3k however people won't allow that to happen ever.
4092  Economy / Speculation / Re: DO NOT GIVE UP !! on: October 09, 2018, 11:27:14 AM
I do not feel like the drop in price is the trouble with bitcoin and I am not considering getting out because it went down. I feel like the swings are the problem, I feel like going up and down this quickly doesn't make it easy to accept bitcoin as a payment option.

You can take any amount of money you want from your customers for bitcoin and when the money is with you are not getting exactly the same amount. If you cash out right away you may get something close however if you do not than your money swings like crazy up or down. I feel like stabilizing would kill bitcoin but also swings are killing it for me as well.
4093  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Future of ETH? on: October 08, 2018, 01:28:20 PM
It's been a long time since Ethereum is performing below it's standards as we all remember even when the value of bitcoin dripped ridiculously still the value of ethereum was good but now from past 3 months wherein ethereum is struggling to survive. Will it reach $1000 market before this year end ?
I think it is going to keep what its doing, the problem with eth is that the amount of people who are selling their ETH will never got low because in the end when you create an ICO on eth blockchain people are sending their ETH to the ICO owner and they are getting whatever token or coin it is.

In return that ICO owner sells his ethereum whenever he needs to pay something and gets money back for stuff he needs to pay. Which means eth has a vicious circle of sellers and buyers, people buy to pay for ICO and ICO owners sell to pay for stuff. As soon as people start to not buy for ICO and the ICO owners of the old kept on selling it became very low valued.
4094  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: trading outside of crypto? on: October 08, 2018, 12:01:55 PM
Hello I didn't know anything about trading until I first started trading monero on poloniex when it was like $5. Now I've learned a lot just from trading and mining crypto but my only experience is with crypto.

So I guess this is backwards but now I would like to try trading or investing outside of crypto....is that stocks?...see I have no clue what everything is called. Are there trading sites like bittrex etc?

what is the differences between a crypto exchange and a "stock exchange" that trades in dollars? Do you have to provide ID? Are they easier to fund in dollars?

Is there anything like a Trade Satoshi where I can just practice with small amounts?

Thanks for any information


I think there are two things wrong with what you are trying to achieve. First of all this is crypto forum, this is "bitcoin"talk so whatever you are trying to do outside of bitcoin you should go do it on their forums and learn from them, we here are bitcoin traders and not stock traders.

However if we put that aside you should also know that if you want to trade stocks that will not be similar to bitcoin. In crypto we have huge swings so there are people who keep making money and who keep losing money and everything in between, in stocks things move much slower so you will not see these kinds of moves. People who make %20 in stocks considered to be genius whereas %20 is easy to achieve in bitcoin, up or down.
4095  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin will touch 20K USD end of 2018. What you think ? on: October 06, 2018, 11:42:28 AM
This is my own opinion that Bitcoin will touch 20K USD end of 2018. What your thought about it ?

It's been a couple of months that btc value doesn't move further and still people are hoping for the betterment of its price. As a crypto users, I won't stop  promoting with this technology due to its potential value in the future.
Everything is possible in bitcoin because definitely when demands will  gradually increases FOMO will set in people who are just observant of the prices will  surely come in and those people are  the price catalyst to bullish.
yeah, all it might be, but we have to be realistic and look at the facts. I think that for this year the price will tend to be stable, and it will be difficult for this year's back to $20k. I think next year it might be waiting for some the growth, such as etf approved bitcoin, and then fomo and yeah it can make price increases.
Yeah, and if we want to be realistic and look at the facts right now, we would know that the likelihood of ever seeing bitcoin hit $20000 at the end of the year is close to impossible. Unless we get to see some huge news that could maybe skyrocket demand and not just some fake move upwards with a dump afterwards, and almost everyone is looking to buy and not selling, we may see something like that happen, but with the way things are now, where we are presently, and the fact that we only have few months before the end of the year, I do not see $20k as something plausible as well.
4096  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Trading, campaigns, gambling or mining? on: October 05, 2018, 11:03:28 AM
I think all of this can be profitable but having a difference from the highest level of risk is gambling because when you lose you will lose your assets, you better trade and become a campaign participant and if you can assemble and run mining tools.

Yes, most of the money we lose them in gambling only we don't know who is going to get benefits from it. So the best way to make money is through trading because we might analysis here to make a profit. Coming to bounty campaign it is a very good way to promote the ICO in order to make some profit after the crowdsale.
Anyone who is even using gambling as a footstool to make money is only living in a fool’s paradise as far as I am concerned. Gambling should never be among the list of anyone who wants to make money but should only be on the list of those who want to lose money.

There are so many productive ways to make money and part of it is trading even though it requires great deal of knowledge and experience to do well, same as mining. The only easy one which a lot of people have been doing for a while now is campaigns as you really do not have anything to learn or anything to lose in this case.
4097  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is bitcoin worthy to buy ? right now? on: October 05, 2018, 10:21:56 AM
Right now bitcoin price is very low, some investor are investing their money for buying bitcoin.
is bitcoin worthy to buy ? right now?
Do you agree with this or not ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,???

I want to believe that is a question only you can answer. Do you believe bitcoin has a future? What are the benefits you have to gain in the future and how do you see people perceiving its usage? What do you think makes bitcoin actually tick when it comes to payment system.

Once you know all of this, you will be able to know that buying bitcoin at any stage right now is a good price and let alone, buying now that it is in a dip is even a whole lot better as you are getting at a much discounted price. What I usually say is buy the dips, keep buying the dips and never stop buying the dips.
4098  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Can the world really go digital with crypto? on: October 04, 2018, 09:51:50 AM
Imagine, looking at gge current dip we are facing, can we say the world is already getting tired of blockchain innovation? I hope not. I know we have got a long way to go.
World is not tired of blockchain - this technology is not introduced in our lives, only in cryptocurrency for now as I know, and even cryptos are used by not a big amount of people(approximately 1000000 people in the whole world).
Good times for blockchain are yet to come
Definitely! We are still in the very early stages of cryptocurrency and for the fact that we have not been seeing real life usage and what almost everyone cares about now is to get rich anyway, it is hard to say we have gotten there yet and with that, it is obvious there is still enough room for growth in the long run.

Blockchain is the future and there is no doubt about that and so far we have been seeing a lot of development that has been popping up and even without cryptocurrency the world is already going digital, so what is there to say that in the long run or some generation to come, things will not end up being digital?
4099  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do you manage your profits in trading? on: October 03, 2018, 10:32:55 AM
I know it's advisable to buy low and sell your coin at a higher price. What I don't understand is that when you sell high, do you suppose to buy so that your profit will not depreciate when the price is going low? I need an expert to clarify me, Thanks.
No need to have an expert advise because this is just really a basic thing.Come to understand that buybacks wont really be worth anytime.Just take the profits and move on which you should not tend to buy again if the price goes low because not all coins will significantly rise its price unless if you do see high liquidity or volume then doing these shortings would really be possible but wont really be that easy for sure.
I wonder what he was even trying to get at with his question as he already answered himself even with the first question he asked about it being advisable. It is definitely the way to go, you buy when you everyone is selling and the market has shown some real bottom after some downtrend with the possibilities of recovering and then with that you are able to look forward to selling the peak when everyone is busy FOMOing.

Your profit is there to increase what you have in the long run, and the thing here is that as long as you consider money management in whatever you do, you will always be good.
4100  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: jason derulo will make his own coin? on: September 29, 2018, 01:40:12 PM
OP maybe it would be ok to tell us ignorant people like me who Jason Derulo is? Is he celebrity or he has something to do with cryptocurrencies?
Grin Google up bro! It is not that hard. Jason Derulo is a U.S Singer and dancer who has been able to make some name for himself over the years, at least, I am sure he has some pretty good fans which I am one of them anyway and then he is thinking because of that, he can just easily offload some shit coins on us and then we will buy it because we are his fans? He must really have been high on some cheap weed when he made that decision. People are more enlightened that this, and there is no doubt there will be some gullible people who will fall for this crap and really, this is why we just need some form of regulation to stop this kind of bullshit from happening.
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