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4081  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency (mandatory upgrade) on: September 18, 2014, 03:39:15 AM
Is there any swag we can offer up for a donation drive/auction?  This won't solve the problem of dev-costs long term, but could provide a bump until the GUI is up--which should generate a price raise and alleviate cost concerns if the increase matches expenses. Just throwing things out there, so don't be too critical.

Swag meaning logo gear and such? That was in the latest missive.



Yeah, saw that with the 15% going to devs. I'm talking SWAG like a vacation at a castle or a piece of memorabilia--something someone will pay a premium for and feel good that they're supporting the devs at the same time. Wish I could offer something, but all I've got is used books and none of them are signed or valuable--well, other than to me.
4082  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency (mandatory upgrade) on: September 18, 2014, 03:25:43 AM
Is there any swag we can offer up for a donation drive/auction?  This won't solve the problem of dev-costs long term, but could provide a bump until the GUI is up--which should generate a price raise and alleviate cost concerns if the increase matches expenses. Just throwing things out there, so don't be too critical.
4083  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency (mandatory upgrade) on: September 17, 2014, 08:46:05 AM
Is there a cut and paste response we can give on threads for people who are looking for anonymity? There's one over on r/bitcoin now and some are recommending mixers--pointed out the single point of failure inherent with mixers, but don't have the technical expertise to explain why Monero is a better means to anonymity.  

www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2gl4ua/quick_question_dont_upvote/

I'll take a stab at it. I'll just take the whitepaper and try to cut out anything that isnt absolutely necessary for satisfying your request. Maybe we can bounce it around and crowd edit/redraft it. Ok so thats just a super rough draft. Please be tactful. Cheesy

Monero in a nutshell

Inorder for an electronic cash to be private and anonymous it must satisfy two requirements. Untraceability: for each incoming transaction all possible senders are equiprobable. Unlinkability: for any two outgoing transactions it is impossible to prove they were sent to the same person.

Unfortunately, Bitcoin does not satisfy the untraceability requirement since all the transactions that take place between the network's participants are public. It is also suspected that Bitcoin does not satisfy the second property. A careful blockchain analysis may reveal connections between the users of the Bitcoin network and their transactions thus it fails the unlinkability requirement as well. We offer a solution that fully satisfies both untraceability and unlinkability conditions.

Inorder to satisfy the requirement of untracability, monero utilizes the concept of one time ring signatures. After signing a transaction the user provides, for the purpose of verification, not his own single public key, but the keys of all of the members of a group of users. An observer is able to then verify that the real signer is a member of the group, but cannot exclusively identify the signer. So long as all of the other participants in your group are valid signatures, and linked to valid ring signature groups, and all of the participants in those transactions are valid and link back to still valid ring signature groups... ect all the way back to the genesis block, than no doublespend is possible because for each and every ring signature group in the signatures progeny there is an equal number of inputs and outputs. All of this is accomplished without any need for trust, without any denial of service attack vectors, and without the need for any form of centralization. All members of a ring signature group are equal.

Inorder to satisfy the requirement of unlinkability monero utilizes a scheme which allows a user to publish a single address from which, in addition to some random data from the sender, a one time use public keys may be derived. Hence, there is no such issue as "address reuse" by design and no observer can determine if any transactions were sent to a specific address or link two addresses together.


 I put things in poems so I can understand them better; is this close:

Most coins leave a trail of wallets
Where each man has spent his bling
Monero has gone and solved this
By making his wallet into a ring
That's melted--cooled--put in a pouch
Each piece is spread the world  around
The wealth is spread from house to house
So the senders ring is never found


4084  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency (mandatory upgrade) on: September 16, 2014, 10:20:38 PM
Is there a cut and paste response we can give on threads for people who are looking for anonymity? There's one over on r/bitcoin now and some are recommending mixers--pointed out the single point of failure inherent with mixers, but don't have the technical expertise to explain why Monero is a better means to anonymity.  

www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2gl4ua/quick_question_dont_upvote/

Look at FAQ on http://www.monero.cc. Good and short description of Monero anonymity essence.

Thank you. Not sure if I can work with that on the thread though. Here's their question, "If I bought bitcoin on coinbase, and then sent them to an offline wallet I own, and used those to then purchase say a server slot over tor. Would there be anything linking me to that purchase? Other than the fact that I used to own those coins?" Wouldn't they have to convert to an anonymous coin and then back to bitcoin again if they want to be sure they haven't left any tracks? Better to do it all with an anonymous coin, but that might not be an option for them.

Coinbase know your bank account, know you BTC address. It's possible to trace it, NSA can use law or soldering iron to retrieve your BTC address from coinbase. Easy way to hide - transfer BTC to exchange, buy monero, withdraw, transfer monero to another wallet with mixin 7+, transfer to another exchange, sell, transfer to new BTC wallet, pay from it. Weird =)

And you must use several accounts and VPN. Monero can give you anonymous transactions, the rest of your activity can be traced anyway.

Broke it down to 4 steps and posted--thank you. Very simple, and to the point, but seems like the BTC part is a waste of time.  Undecided
4085  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency (mandatory upgrade) on: September 16, 2014, 09:56:01 PM
Is there a cut and paste response we can give on threads for people who are looking for anonymity? There's one over on r/bitcoin now and some are recommending mixers--pointed out the single point of failure inherent with mixers, but don't have the technical expertise to explain why Monero is a better means to anonymity.  

www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2gl4ua/quick_question_dont_upvote/

Look at FAQ on http://www.monero.cc. Good and short description of Monero anonymity essence.

Thank you. Not sure if I can work with that on the thread though. Here's their question, "If I bought bitcoin on coinbase, and then sent them to an offline wallet I own, and used those to then purchase say a server slot over tor. Would there be anything linking me to that purchase? Other than the fact that I used to own those coins?" Wouldn't they have to convert to an anonymous coin and then back to bitcoin again if they want to be sure they haven't left any tracks? Better to do it all with an anonymous coin, but that might not be an option for them.
4086  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency (mandatory upgrade) on: September 16, 2014, 09:37:22 PM
Is there a cut and paste response we can give on threads for people who are looking for anonymity? There's one over on r/bitcoin now and some are recommending mixers--pointed out the single point of failure inherent with mixers, but don't have the technical expertise to explain why Monero is a better means to anonymity.  

www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2gl4ua/quick_question_dont_upvote/
4087  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency (mandatory upgrade) on: September 15, 2014, 01:32:55 PM
"I heard even Obama saying that NSA must be put under scrutiny and things exposed!  Shocked So if he supports Snowden, how about arranging a (Congressional) Medal of Honor, since this guy has really done more to liberty than any one of those who fought in the bankster wars?"

Obama politically distancing himself from the NSA is not Obama supporting Snowden. Snowden is lucky if he'll get a pardon in the next couple election cycles; even  Feinstein (D,Cali) was calling Snowden's acts treasonous. If a ranking liberal in one of the more liberal states who wields a huge amount of political power isn't ready to come off the "He's a traitor!" soapbox, then it's unlikely he'll get any favors unless there's a huge shift in public opinion by either Democrats or Republicans (probably both would be needed now), one of the parties is overhauled (Libertarians become the Conservative base/Anarchists the Liberal base--maybe, someday), or moderate voters see his leaks in a different light. It would take a huge bombshell to shake the "Not sure how I feel about that guy," apathy that surrounds moderate voter's opinions about Snowden.  Doesn't matter what you know or feel; politics is about the perception of a reality and who can sell that reality best--this is why so many politicians are lawyers.

It goes both ways. More than half of the young (<50) Americans think what Snowden did was needed. Anyone in the politics opposing Snowden is going against the public opinion and tarnishing his own reputation. The louder you cry that Snowden must be burned, the less you are trusted, and the more obvious it is to all that you only live out of the scraps the system feeds you to keep you a functioning Senator.

I should stop. And I will. Any political post by me in this thread earns the exposer an immediate 20 XMR, and if it is questionable whether the post was political, final arbiter is ArticMine.

Only point was that Obama's not giving Snowden The Medal of Honor. Maybe in a few years to come, he will get invited back to the states and given full amnesty, and maybe an award, but not the Medal of Honor (it's solely a military award), but still, something that looks nice on a mantle.
4088  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency (mandatory upgrade) on: September 14, 2014, 11:57:51 PM
You seem to assume that people will forever regard NSA as legit? Once they lose that in the eyes of enough of people, it does not matter even if we move back to eternally-logged Bitcoin, they cannot do anything.

Using sufficiently-hard to decipher communications may be a way to force them to use such draconian methods in their action that no one wants to work for them anymore, and the critical mass of people will wake up.

But also if they realize they have pushed you over the edge already, you are already a lost case, and often such people are left alone because any repression towards them will just ignite them to self-preservation mode which is contagious in the era of social media. For these people it might even be an asset to leak their stuff over to NSA so that they can readily observe that the person is interested in his financial privacy and better world, and is not fomenting an armed rebellion.

This assumes that the NSA is the biggest threat arising, out of the United States, to personal freedom and liberty and that includes financial freedom. The evidence points otherwise as private sector organizations such as the NFL (National Football League), MPAA (Motion Picture Association of America) etc., post a much greater threat. A good list is those organizations and corporations that supported SOPA. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_Online_Piracy_Act, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_organizations_with_official_stances_on_the_SOPA_and_PIPA. One must also watch those organizations that withdrew their support under pressure such as Apple. The fundamental problem here is that the only effective way to protect "intellectual property rights" is to centralize control over computers and devices such as cell phones and tablets away from their owners and into the hands large corporations such as Apple and Microsoft. This is typically done by using a combination of propriety software at the operating system level, DRM and the fact that the majority of the population are not "nerds" and thereby less aware of the threat and less likely to fight back. Centralized control of networks in the hands of big telecom also another way, so battles over net neutrality can actually become battles over personal freedom and civil liberties with big telecom on the side of tyranny and oppression.

There are crucial lesson here in the Snowden leaks. Most of the NSA spying depended on the data collection habits of large corporations as best demonstrated in the PRISM program. A list of the the corporate enablers can be found here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_%28surveillance_program%29#mediaviewer/File:Prism_slide_5.jpg. One of the simplest routes to privacy and individual personal and financial freedom is to withhold personal information from the corporate enablers.

Some of us that "have been pushed over the edge" use GNU/Linux as their primary desktop OS (less than 2% of the population) root their Android phones in order to lock out the manufacturer and telecom provider, consider Apple's IOS only suitable for the telescreen in George Orwell's 1984, avoid social media such as Facebook etc. Crypto currency such XBT and XMR becomes part of a portfolio of tools and not the only tool used to enhance personal freedom and privacy.

This is beautiful. Is there a way to create one touch anonymity solutions for less tech savvy consumers who don't want Big Brother watching them?
4089  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency (mandatory upgrade) on: September 14, 2014, 11:30:25 PM
"I heard even Obama saying that NSA must be put under scrutiny and things exposed!  Shocked So if he supports Snowden, how about arranging a (Congressional) Medal of Honor, since this guy has really done more to liberty than any one of those who fought in the bankster wars?"

Obama politically distancing himself from the NSA is not Obama supporting Snowden. Snowden is lucky if he'll get a pardon in the next couple election cycles; even  Feinstein (D,Cali) was calling Snowden's acts treasonous. If a ranking liberal in one of the more liberal states who wields a huge amount of political power isn't ready to come off the "He's a traitor!" soapbox, then it's unlikely he'll get any favors unless there's a huge shift in public opinion by either Democrats or Republicans (probably both would be needed now), one of the parties is overhauled (Libertarians become the Conservative base/Anarchists the Liberal base--maybe, someday), or moderate voters see his leaks in a different light. It would take a huge bombshell to shake the "Not sure how I feel about that guy," apathy that surrounds moderate voter's opinions about Snowden.  Doesn't matter what you know or feel; politics is about the perception of a reality and who can sell that reality best--this is why so many politicians are lawyers.
4090  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency (mandatory upgrade) on: September 12, 2014, 03:47:07 AM

Only one was created more than a week ago--this makes me want to buy more.   Grin
4091  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency (mandatory upgrade) on: September 10, 2014, 02:09:49 PM
It would be great if there was a Windows GUI by the official devs.
It doesn't have to be officially released though.
What about providing an early test build (with big alpha-logo inside) once per KB fees are implemented? Precompiled for Windows with all the necessary runtime environments bundled. Wink

You mean exactly like we have on the OP? Here:

GUI
All current GUIs are in beta, but they should be fairly safe to use because they work through bitmonerod and simplewallet from the main code.


Think some are asking for a ICON + DOUBLECLICK = LAUNCH version.
4092  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency (mandatory upgrade) on: September 10, 2014, 01:21:25 PM
Maybe we should all get together and start a little fund that will finance all the work needed to build a nice GUI. How is that?
Maybe set up donation addresses exclusively for the development of the GUI wallet? Might help in assessing how important it is for the community.

This isn't a terrible idea if the Devs can focus on the coin's main priorities. I'm sure the team doesn't want to sacrifice a current member to work on something that's lower on their priority list.
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