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4081  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Minimum Age to gamble on: September 21, 2023, 10:59:07 AM

Yes I agree to this, there is no other way to reduce the amount of loss or to avoid addiction other than self-control, I hope most of them (gamblers) already know about what they should do there. Always gamble with a budget limit and a healthy mindset of not overdoing it, that's it and you'll be safe. Because as we know the temptation in gambling is very extraordinary, only a few are able to pass it and most of them will be trapped there. What I'm afraid of is that for young children, there must be strict rules from both parents, especially in this era where gambling is very common, so this is a big task for every parent.

That's right. It really boils down to discipline. Everytime gambling is involved, you should know that automatically, one way or another, you'll encounter it because you should practice it in the first place. There's no other option indeed to reduce losses but to be responsible of your betting routine. If you continue to overspend and to overtime in gambling, you'll reap it in the future. You can be addicted by going beyond what it's recommended and that could ruin your life in an instant. So always gamble responsibly and improve your mindset to only take calculated risks.

Yes and actually they can't blame anyone or even the casino agent, because obviously their own mindset has indirectly trapped themselves to go too deep there, basically anyone who expects something excessive from gambling then I make sure they will not be fine in the future, because they continue to spin with the cycle of digging holes closing holes, they will continue to dig to cover the defeat in the previous time, honestly such conditions are not at all comfortable and I have felt it.

Well the point is the mindset if in my opinion that must be corrected, you must really be able to consider that gambling is just a place to have fun to fill spare time, don't go beyond that if you don't want to end up tragically like other people who now regret it. Change your mindset and use the minimum budget that is clear that you will not mind if the money is finally lost, that's all. It's simple but it's hard to do.
4082  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Navigating the World of Online Gambling on: September 21, 2023, 10:24:52 AM
Well that's the fact that actually happens friends, whoever wants a beginner or an experienced one, obviously they will be the same when in gambling there is no one who is greater and also no one is stupid, I mean everything comes back to luck and whatever method you use there that you think is accurate but still in the end there are only two answers, namely winning and losing, and what must be remembered is that defeat will always dominate, the casino system is designed to always give victory to the house, not to the gambler completely.

It is possible to make an experiment whether the casino is really reliable or even deceptive. Honestly, maybe when their withdrawals are small it can be processed but when they get a big win and they want to make a withdrawal it is very likely to be difficult, it is not uncommon for things like this to happen, casinos like making it difficult to withdraw from their members' winnings, honestly I have experienced something like this and in the end my account was suddenly blocked for some reason. So it is true, it is very important when we want to gamble we must look for a casino that is truly trusted and has a good reputation so that when we hit the jackpot we can make withdrawals smoothly.
Every gambler has the same odds, regardless of prior experience. Players will lose more money at casinos than they will earn since they are businesses with a profit-making strategy. Due diligence while gambling is crucial, as this fact proves.

Of course and that's the fact, as I said above whether they're experienced or not has absolutely no bearing on something that's just luck, I think with losses and wins always happening randomly and unpredictably it's obvious. So it's clear that whatever method you use there actually has no effect at all but maybe you yourself create the illusion.

That's a terrible but typical occurrence that your account was blocked after you won. Selecting casinos with clear policies and a solid reputation requires careful investigation. Not a means of making money, gambling should be viewed as a kind of entertainment. As always, establish and adhere to time and financial boundaries. Its about enjoying the experience responsibly.

Well it seems that now it is not uncommon for such cases to occur, or even more often. Honestly I experienced it once and it was very annoying, maybe you also know how it feels if you have struggled to find luck and when you get it you can't withdraw the money at all, it's sad. Well in addition to in-depth investigation maybe we can also find or ask some friends who also like to gamble and I'm sure they must have one casino that they trust and well you can play there. That's obvious, since gambling is all about luck, it's foolish for anyone to think they can make money from it, let alone consistently, it's absurd.
4083  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: September 20, 2023, 04:23:09 PM
You are satisfied with what you saw from PSG because all you saw was just in French Leageu not in the Chmapnmios Leageue.
We know PSG is a strong team in the French league because of the better and more investment they had and more players they bought for their teams while other teams in this league cannot do that.
But if this team plays with another team at the same level, they can't do anything in the Chmapnios Leageu even after all the money they invested.


This is where you are wrong. Even though I think PSG has lost power, I still think they are one of the few teams with a strong squad in the UCL. Mbappe, the igniting force, is still there and there is still a possibility that they can add to their success this year. I'm sure they'll make it through the groups for the UCL, but progress in the rest of the tournament may depend entirely on who they face in the qualifying draw.
It might be argued that Paris Saint Germain are one of the stronger clubs in the Champions League, but the question is how strong are they when compared to the other clubs in the same competition? Not to underestimate Paris Saint Germain, but I would say that they are not stronger than the other favorites. I probably don't have to mention which clubs those are, because I'm pretty sure you can already tell which ones I'm referring to.
I'm not saying this without reason, and one of the factors for me to say that is when I look at their performance in the previous season.
4084  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: September 20, 2023, 04:07:25 PM
Sad news for Atlético. It seems to me that this will be a continuation of the stagnation that has been going on in the club for several years. I doubt that Atlético will win the title again “using the old textbooks” or reach the Champions League final as they once did.
The club owners are not very interested in the performance of the club. They are more interested in profit maximization. As of 2021, it was reported that Diego Simeone is the coach who has generated more revenue than any other coach in the world. It was estimated that he has generated up to €1billion from sales and transfers of players for Atletico Madrid. I think Simeone should leave the cub because he is now experiencing the principle of diminishing returns. But the problem will be who to replace him since quality coaches are rare. Simone is a good coach, he might be able to win trophies if he leaves Atletico maybe to England.
The relationship between coach and club is so close that Diego Simeone is still with them today. This is not the first time talking about Diego Simeone at Atletico Madrid. Last season was even deeper in the conversation about replacing the coach at Atletico Madrid, but until now he is still with them.
Indeed, I also saw a decline in the performance of this one coach, but I don't know exactly why that happened. Because it could be that the strategy he uses has been realized by their opponents so that it is easy for opponents to read the direction of Atletico Madrid's game.
4085  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: September 20, 2023, 03:43:07 PM
This man still surprising everyone, especially given his age. Cristiano Ronaldo stands as the top goal scorer, sharing the same number of assists as the leading player in Saudi Arabia. In my perspective, Ronaldo is not just a player, he's a leader and mentor. Many young players look up to him. The way he treats every player on the field shows that he values each member of his team. I hope he continues his scoring streak.

Ronaldo cannot be compared to other old men he applies high discipline so don't be surprised if his abilities are almost the same as other young players Cheesy In his old age he was still able to score 17 goals in the Premier League several seasons ago and now he is playing in Saudi Pro League then I am sure he can score 20-30 goals this season. Aleksandar Mitrovic is one of his contenders for the golden boot it's just that the performance is sometimes inconsistent.
It's endless when we talk about this one player, his hard work has brought him to this level now. Even when some people say that his career is over, he can do something good at his age. Maybe some people think he can do that because he plays in the SPL, and will not be able to do the same when playing in the Premier League this season for example. But we all know that the SPL is much more competitive now. Although it is true that the SPL still cannot be compared to the Premier League, but what he can do now is something extraordinary, considering his age.
4086  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: September 20, 2023, 03:28:59 PM
and Manchester United are probably aiming for a draw, I don't think they can expect a win at the Allianz Arena.

Manchester United is not in their form and has a problem with their keeper who is on lapses, So it will be difficult for Man Utd to even see a draw on their German opponent soil Bayern Munich, Bayern Munich knowing fully well that the Red Devils are their major contender in that group, and a defeat to Manchester United will give them more opportunity of toping the group which every big name team is aiming at achieving will not spare Man Utd.
Realistically then, Manchester United will try to take home at least a point from this match, given that their opponent is a strong club like Bayern Munich. I won't rule them out of getting full points, but their chances of doing so are relatively small especially with their inconsistent condition. On the other hand, Bayern Munich will want to win to ease their way, considering Manchester United is their main competitor in this group. They are also in better shape than the English club, and another advantage is that they are playing at home.
4087  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: September 20, 2023, 01:51:43 PM
This time Jose Mourinho got what wanted to get.  
Jose Mourinho is a great coach for any team but in the last season he didn't have a player to fill Dybala's place when he got injured and that's why this team couldn't have the good performance we were expecting to see from them in Europe League, but this time they got Lukaku in their teams. However, I think Lukaku is not in good form and made many mistakes this summer but I'm sure this palyer can help Roma in this season.
Yes, Jose Mourinho offers to Roma a unique style of coaching abilities despite his reputation for being tough. I believe the most recent 7-0 defeat to Empoli should serve as a reminder of the value of a good defense in football. I Think Teams face the risk of frequently conceding goals without it, as Empoli did. They risk losing their Serie A status if they don't halt this habit. His vicious demeanor only becomes worse when Mourinho's team loses. Roma excellent win is heartening, but their uneven goal scoring continues to be a cause for concern. They are unlikely to contend with Inter Milan for the title this year, especially given Inter strong start and the acquisition of Romelu Lukaku to their starting lineup.
Although the win came against a club that was losing, it was a good morale-booster. It was also their first win of the season, which is exactly what they need right now. But I'm not quite satisfied with this win myself, somehow I think that a big win is no better than a tight goal difference win that they get consistently and they get in every game. I hope this is the first step for them to continue their positive trend.
Jose Mourinho is an experienced coach there's no doubt about that, but I've noticed a dip lately. Whether it's because the majority of the players he has are not up to what he wants, or something else.
4088  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: September 20, 2023, 12:22:20 PM
I can understand when someone thinks that the last season has something to do with this season because both seasons are so similar in terms of their performance. I have begun to think that there issues are systemically and very deep, maybe not even to be found in the team itself. Something is going so utterly wrong that I am sure Chelsea will for a long time hold the record of being the team with insane record spending on transfers and not even reaching the Champions League or the Europa League. Their performances are so devastating that I guess most people can't even come up with an explanation or theory.
of course everyone will think that winning there is something wrong with this Chelsea team while spending large amounts of money but not getting satisfactory results from the players they have bought this season and I am sure most supporters or anyone will judge if this is a mistake and I was wondering if this was a backdoor game of wasting a lot of money but the players who were bought did not have the talent to match the price.
TBH, I dont want to be distrustful of Chelsea, but in reality it seems like its beyond reason to spend large amounts of money, but in terms of performance, its very bad compared to last season and actually I wanted to say this for some time ago and I started saying it today when It like I am fed up with Chelsea regrettable performance.

The point is that there can't be any excuses anymore. Like, there can be one transfer window and a club buys three players at once and all of them fail or don't work within the team or with the coach. But Chelsea seems to have some kind of virus against success. It's crazy. I am sure that any other club with that amount of money would have done better than Chelsea and it's enough to just sack one coach and get the next. They have far more significant problems that should be solved on a higher level than just changing the name of the coach.

I honestly don't know about what really happened in the Chelsea squad, although maybe they got one more chance in the other transfer market to recruit some players they considered very good honestly I wouldn't believe it anymore, the way they see good players seems different from us in general, and it's proven that everything ends in vain. That's right, there seems to be some kind of virus in this Chelsea squad, or maybe even a curse so that no matter how much money they spend to fight for the squad it always ends far from expectations. This season Chelsea is worse than what we imagined, almost completely the players there are new ammunition that they think are worthy of competing in the field, but well in fact it's the same and the point is this season is much worse than last season.

Look at the red color always dominates Pochettino's squad in the standings, it means there is no better performance even though they have spent all the ways one of them spent a lot of money but everything went far from expectations, quite sad and in my opinion this is not entirely about the coach.
4089  Other / Off-topic / Re: Keeping your gambling habit a secret. on: September 20, 2023, 11:55:53 AM

Of course when you defaulted utility bills, its definitely time to pause and think through. But as long as you manages to make it and you spend the money that your wife has allocated for you, there is no need for her to know how you spend the money or your gambling activity.

Wives talk to other wives. They even talk how big your dick is. So your habit is just another that will make them despise you.

It becomes extremely hard for anyone to hide gambling activities within the home. For example, for a husband, it is almost impossible to hide that he is gambling (even if he is using his own money) as his wife can catch him gambling online on his system or mobile. Yes, you can keep your gambling habit hidden from friends or relatives but it becomes extremely difficult to hide it from the people living at your home.

So in my opinion, it is better to talk to your family, take them in confidence that you are gambling, only allocating certain funds, and show them the profits earned.

Yes, it's like no matter how good you are at hiding something or wherever you hide a carcass, over time it will smell, just like gambling in a family as you said here. Surely one day his wife or child will find out what his husband is doing even though they use their own money, but I think they will be in a position to run out of money and then ask his wife for a little money for all kinds of reasons, and well on average, problems in the family will slide there, and it is not uncommon for it to end in divorce because of worsening economic factors.

Well honestly I agree with you, talking about something will be the best way to solve any problem, especially gambling which can really damage the family economy, I think your wife will also not be too angry at you, and there you can both focus on finding solutions to this problem.
4090  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Importance of Gambling to the society on: September 20, 2023, 11:20:48 AM
Yes, that's what an addict is, he can't stop himself from gambling, even though he doesn't have any money. Because all he thinks about is playing and playing.
That's right, the main problem is with ourselves, how we can control ourselves when gambling, managing the time and money we will bet of course.
I think all gamblers must feel regret for what they have done, depending on how they can keep it a secret or not tell their regrets to other people, because maybe they think regret in the future is a natural thing for every gambler and they are certainly aware of all the risks they take. experience it later.
The feelings that gamblers will experience are of course seen from the results when they gamble. If they lose, of course feelings of anger and emotions towards other people will appear suddenly, but if they win, they will feel grateful because they have fun and can earn extra money from gambling.
On the time that addictions goes into the point on being that too severe then this is where problems do really start because criminal acts or illegal doings would really be the main thing that comes up into your mind.
This is why it would really be that always important that you should really be having that kind of control when it comes to your actions despite of  that addiction then better not to commit out some foolish actions because once things do happen then pretty sure it would really be ending up on a disaster because this is where things turns out to be a mess if you dont have that kind of control.

Importance of gambling into the society? Realistically speaking about into its function then it would really be a past time or leisure which it would really be that something that someone could deal with
but in speaking about on economic views then it would really be also beneficial on the sense that it would really be that generating revenue or taxes of a certain country
on which we know that it would really be helpful for a countries development knowing that tax does really play a great role when it comes to this one.

Well that's right guys, this is what is really scared, that's why I think there must always be some people (gamblers) who always get advice from some of their colleagues or family maybe not to be too excessive in gambling, because this is what they are afraid of. As we know if gamblers have entered the stage of high addiction until they run out of everything they have then the only way they think it's like a solution for them is to commit a crime or crime, Many cases appear in the news that they commit theft in gold shops or commit robbery to rob the victim's valuables and the reason is that they want to gamble but don't have money because they have spent it all on gambling, honestly this is very sad and I hope people who are still gambling to be firm with themselves to reduce the level of gambling or better stop completely even though it is difficult, but I am sure you can.

Oh well in my opinion, if they are already in a position like this, any control will be useless because it's too late, they are almost completely dominated by lust and curiosity lodged in their brains. Honestly I don't fully agree with this thread that says gambling is important for society, yes maybe that's according to the government who is concerned with the amount of tax from gambling, but for the whole it is clear that this is detrimental to society, slowly everyone's economic problems will definitely increase, I think the government should be concerned with the impact on society, not instead concerned with the money they get, I think this is the main point that should be considered. 
4091  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Minimum Age to gamble on: September 20, 2023, 10:41:16 AM
Countries that allow 18 years of age need to change their regulations by raising the age limit for someone to gamble to 21 years of age because they are truly adults, even though in reality, 21 years of age does not guarantee that someone can act wisely. Many people over 21 are trapped in gambling, so they cannot get out easily. But it depends on the policies of each government because countries that allow an 18 year limit may be really adults, so the government makes regulations like that.

In my opinion, if gambling is not at all beneficial to the government then it is better to close it down, remove all physical or online gambling networks, because I think that even by changing their rules and increasing the minimum age for gambling to 21 years or whatever it is still a big risk will always be there, so this is not the completely best solution to eradicate gambling, but to reduce it it might be useful, because yes I quite agree with those who are allowed to gamble at an older age there they will at least have a more mature mind and be able to distinguish the best from the worst or maybe reduce their gambling. But I don't think everything will always go according to plan, as you said even with the age of 21 it doesn't mean they can avoid everything there, after all even those who are older are still many who can't control themselves at all when gambling, so I think the best solution if the country really doesn't want its people to experience a lot of problems, especially in finance, then close all access to gambling there, I think that's it.

But it is true that when gambling, they need self-control to manage money and not be wasteful. And they should learn to be responsible gamblers so they don't exceed their limits and don't become addicted to gambling. However, with the convenience of online casinos, minors can enter and gamble freely. Each parent must pay attention to this when supervising their children.

Yes I agree to this, there is no other way to reduce the amount of loss or to avoid addiction other than self-control, I hope most of them (gamblers) already know about what they should do there. Always gamble with a budget limit and a healthy mindset of not overdoing it, that's it and you'll be safe. Because as we know the temptation in gambling is very extraordinary, only a few are able to pass it and most of them will be trapped there. What I'm afraid of is that for young children, there must be strict rules from both parents, especially in this era where gambling is very common, so this is a big task for every parent.
4092  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Navigating the World of Online Gambling on: September 20, 2023, 09:31:36 AM
withdraw your profits time to time, so you cannot stuck in a situation that your account got banned with all of your winnings (if the user wins).
The truth is you will not making money in gambling, so there's no such withdrawing profit from time to time like you're making a regular profit through gambling.

Assuming someone is win in gambling, they must be withdraw their profit to know how trusted is the casino. But the casino only allow withdraw for small amount winning, the casino's reputation is tested when someone win a huge amount that exceed from the gambler's total deposits.

Well that's the fact that actually happens friends, whoever wants a beginner or an experienced one, obviously they will be the same when in gambling there is no one who is greater and also no one is stupid, I mean everything comes back to luck and whatever method you use there that you think is accurate but still in the end there are only two answers, namely winning and losing, and what must be remembered is that defeat will always dominate, the casino system is designed to always give victory to the house, not to the gambler completely.

It is possible to make an experiment whether the casino is really reliable or even deceptive. Honestly, maybe when their withdrawals are small it can be processed but when they get a big win and they want to make a withdrawal it is very likely to be difficult, it is not uncommon for things like this to happen, casinos like making it difficult to withdraw from their members' winnings, honestly I have experienced something like this and in the end my account was suddenly blocked for some reason. So it is true, it is very important when we want to gamble we must look for a casino that is truly trusted and has a good reputation so that when we hit the jackpot we can make withdrawals smoothly.
4093  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: September 19, 2023, 11:48:29 AM
Yes, Xabi Alonso has brought Bayer Leverkusen back to the limelight after a successful season in Germany; and even though Bayer Leverkusen has started the league in good form; i think the coach needs to downplay the comparison the media is bringing between Bayer Leverkusen and Bayern Munich because this will only pile up expectations and pressures on the young Bayer Leverkusen side.

I don't take away Xabi's important role.   But Bayern Leverkusen is always in the top 10 at the end of every season. Even they can reach the top 3 at the end of the competition. The last game of the season against Bayern was indeed quite good. They were able to get 1 point and were number 1 temporarily. Xabi came 2022 and he managed to give a performance no less good than the previous coach. But the season is still going to be very long, so Xabi also has a lot to do to keep them at their best.

Yes that's right, before the arrival of Xabi Alonso, at the end of the season Leverkusen could also always enter the top ten of the standings and had also occupied a position among the top five at the end of the season, so I wouldn't say that the previous coach was bad, but maybe the previous coach was not really able to bring Leverkusen to perform better to pursue the highest position in this Bundesliga competition, and now with the arrival of Xabi Alonso this squad seems to get new energy and it is proven that they can perform better than the previous season until now as we see Leverkusen is in the top position of the standings, honestly this is not easy because there are always big teams that threaten them like Bayern Munich who can always dominate the title at the end of the season and also maybe Dortmund.

Honestly seeing their match yesterday against Bayern Munich was satisfying, they were able to survive until the last minute with many sharp attacks from Bayern Munich even though it ended in a draw, but I say this is a very good improvement for Leverkusen. Yes that's true, however it's certainly not the time to relax because the season is still very long, they must be able to continue to maintain their position, and I hope Leverkusen can continue to perform consistently with their best performance like this.
4094  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Some of country can offer you legal gambling in 2023! on: September 19, 2023, 11:19:55 AM

Gambling is basically taking money away from the poorest people of the country and giving it to some of the richest.

It's usually allowed because there are heavy taxation, that is, the government takes a cut from it.

But at the end of the day, most of the money being made in gambling comes from the poorest people, which they end up in the streets, or worse.

So, it is a social problem eventually, but is a huge cashflow for the governments, which then have to pay to help the same gamblers later on.

Some countries want to protect their citizens from that, others only care about the cashflow coming in, other are in between.
It is the truth with gambling. Majority of the gamblers used to be the poor people who hope for some win and keeps wagering.

Gambling is a social problem, but some states give importance as it is used as a source for some social cause. In my nearby state lottery draw is conducted by government as the revenue is used for treatment of cancer to the poor people belonging to the state.

In my country gambling is much popular from the days of COVID.

Well that's exactly right, many people have their own reasons why they get into gambling, but in my opinion what makes more sense is the one you mentioned, the average gambling offender is from those who are not financially well (poor) who are very encouraged to gamble, they see this as a solution for them to improve their finances with some winnings, are you sure that's for sure? I honestly never thought of it that way, you are depending on something that is only limited to luck but you sacrifice your real money that even to get that money you have to work hard first, it's ridiculous.

Well some countries may have considered that this gambling is important to them, a little reasonable because there is a lot of money there and maybe the state gets a large percentage of some of the gambling taxes that run there and then it is earmarked for the benefit of the poor, yes I would not consider this wrong because their goal is good to help their people who cannot afford it. But I think the state should also think about the impact experienced by its people who are experiencing big problems because of the gambling they continue to do, it is very likely to make them experience significant financial problems especially as you said now gambling in your country is increasingly commonplace after the covid period is over, honestly this is not a good solution to improve their finances.
4095  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Navigating the World of Online Gambling on: September 19, 2023, 10:43:07 AM
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 Sometime ago, I came across a post where someone raised an issue on how do we know that the casino isn't set to beat us at their own games, unfortunately, you can't tell. but these casinos are governed by different bodies to protect customers right in win win and loss. we still can't tell if this is true though. some thing you can check before getting to bet in some casino.
I am not sure what you mean by this. Casinos are literally set to beat us, that's called house edge, without it casinos wouldn't make any profit. This has existed since casinos have existed and they are very open about it. House edge is small but they are in it for a long run so huge wins are counted into it.

Rest of your advices are pretty good for anyone really, no matter if you are starting or old player.
Since it's not just a single gambler that do beg on a casino at a time, we might not notice that casinos are really earning from us even with the multiple bonus system and other things too to make us stick to a particular casino.

 If we really understand that techniques on how casinos earn from us, we will be very surprised that no matter how good a gambler can be, they will still make loses even though they are still making profits so far but there are also gambkers that are making loses on regular which makes it easy for the casino to earn a lots from us without us knowing what up and how the system benefits them a lot.

Well of course, I think almost everyone is a beggar in the casino. Maybe they're not unaware, I'm sure most of them are aware that casinos make money from losing gamblers there, but I don't think they really think about it, I think they just really rely on luck with very high hopes.

Well that's right guys, most would be shocked if they knew the true facts about the money flow in casinos that will always only benefit the casino, not the gamblers. Of course, I've also heard from some people that even professionals never escape the name of loss, they are also the same as ordinary gamblers who sometimes profit and sometimes lose, and certainly defeat will always dominate, I think those professionals are just a little superior in terms of experience compared to us and they already know the various conditions that exist in gambling, and I say it has absolutely no effect on increasing victory but maybe it can be used to reduce defeat. So with this alone maybe we should also have realized that indeed casinos are created only for profits in favor of the casino itself not for gamblers, I say gamblers are just people who bet themselves and their money to win there, but the casino system is designed only to make them profitable, not for gamblers, and gamblers may only be given a small portion of their profits,
nothing but that just to tempt them to keep coming back.
4096  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When the fun stops on: September 19, 2023, 10:21:46 AM

Fun can not be separated from gambling no matter the outcome of your bet. Either you lose your game or you win, you're entertain in either way. The difference is that the entertainment is not always view in the same angle when your gamble goes opposite. It is just that sometimes when we lose bet, we overlooked the entertainment aspect of gambling and be thinking over the money we lose but it's undeniable that entertainment is not completely there but we care less about it when the money is gone.

The comparison of influential gamblers and the average gamblers is not worth because the former have enough money to not worry about the one they gamble with while the latter have less and that's why they feel lost when they lose the money but it doesn't mean the entertainment is not more, just that for them the entertainment is mixed with agony and of course the agony overshadow the entertainment.
Gambling is entertaining, but loss can outweigh the "fun" component. If you're going to gamble, do it for the fun of it and not the money. But that's easier said than done, right? Especially when money is involved. Remembering why you started gambling is crucial. Was it just for fun? Was it for profit? There's a reason why "responsible gambling" is a frequently echoed term. Setting limitations, recognizing probability, and mentally preparing for any outcome are key. Whether a high roller or a recreational player, be fun, but wise

Your review is very accurate my friend, I think that although initially they came with the intention of just having fun, but I would not fully believe in it, because it is very likely that it is just a nonsense, it is not uncommon to find some of them who violate what they have planned before. So it's very appropriate that I would also say that "it's easier said than done", that's a fact that happens friends.

That's right, it's not gambling if it doesn't involve money or anything valuable in it which in fact is the goal of almost everyone why they come there, so I think it's very likely that the average of them (gamblers) who come only to get that win, who doesn't need money? everyone wants money, but there are two choices, namely to seek income or seek pleasure, and I'm sure only a few percent of them choose to seek pleasure, if they really seek pleasure only then it is unlikely that now many are down because of the many defeats there, so I think their first words are just nonsense if indeed in time they also have the wrong mindset or violate what they have said at the beginning. Yes that's right, there is nothing better than applying a lot of restrictions there, they must be quick to change that wrong mindset.
4097  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling should be play with care on: September 19, 2023, 10:01:46 AM
Well and that's the main point that not everyone can do or apply self-control when gambling, okay maybe at the beginning they talk firmly that if they lose they will stop and then take a break but when the situation comes then it's nothing more than just bullshit, on average like that. They will come back with new capital whether it's from their savings or even borrowing from some of their colleagues, it's very certain and sometimes some of my colleagues are also like that until they take out online loans just to gamble with the aim of revenge, of course it's ridiculous.
Yes as I said above if they try to increase the amount of their budget then obviously it will only add to the problem even bigger, so be smarter in looking at gambling. Honestly, I myself never allow or give myself the opportunity to increase the budget even though I have a lot of money for example because it will only make my lust and greed even higher.
Yes, if they talk like that in the beginning, maybe they won't be able to do it and it will look like bullshit. But I think there are gamblers who can do it because they care about their money and themselves. They don't want to experience bad events like other people have experienced, so they always try to stay within their limits and will not try to break them because it could have fatal consequences for them. They will not even try to borrow from friends if they do not have money to gamble because they realize that returning the money will make it difficult to pay it back, especially if they do not have a steady income that can provide them with money.
Well there are those who can be strict with the limits they have set until the end of the game and there are also those who are just like nonsense, at the beginning they are so strict on themselves but when they have experienced conditions like that, which means that some temptations have come then maybe they will violate everything they have previously prepared. In my opinion, most of them always violate it on average, that's why there are so many now who are getting worse in gambling. I understand the temptation there is very strong and rarely can you let go or not be tempted at all, therefore in my opinion one solution that you can use is to reduce your gambling budget from the start, so even if you end up still losing it's just a small part that you are ready to lose, and with a small budget maybe you won't be too hurt by whatever happens to your money. Yes you say that for those who are able to overcome all the temptations out there, but we should also try to find solutions that can help to minimize the losses.


I also never try to increase my budget for gambling anymore because I have experienced incidents where it was not the right decision because I ended up suffering many losses. And I never imagined that before so after that bad incident, I tried to really set a budget for gambling and never went over it. Increasing the amount of the budget can make someone lustful and increase greed, especially if, at that time, we can get a lot of wins, which will tempt us to continue the game. So it's better if we just gamble in moderation.

Yes you have chosen the right decision by not increasing your budget there at all, obviously it is not the right decision if you try to increase your capital, as I said above it will only add to your problems. If you try and lose, you're not going to accept that and I'm sure you'll spend everything you've got just to get revenge there. In my opinion there is nothing to gain even if for example you can get a win by increasing your budget, because the point is that it is very likely that your lust and greed will get higher, and when you want to gamble again, you will definitely continue to increase the amount of your budget because you think that small wins are like nothing, well that's what friends are afraid of. Therefore, it is best to limit everything, especially your budget there. 
4098  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🚀-Sportsbet.io-🚀 Official Partner of Newcastle United Football Club on: September 18, 2023, 05:00:19 PM

Speaking of the odds too high, what do you think of this bet I lost recently?




Should I have picked just 8-9 matches instead of 12? It would still be a great win if I'd picked the right ones. Smiley I'm joking. I would never pick "the right ones". Also, sometimes to bring more fun in life, we have to act in the all-or-nothing mode. Thank you, Sportsbet.io for the opportunity to bet with such high odds!
Chelsea and Manchester United ruining your bet?
I think you are taking too much risk when you put Chelsea and Manchester United in your bet. I don't know why I recently or even from last season always think long when going to bet on Manchester United and Chelsea. And actually this is something annoying for me, because when I bet on them, they will lose, and when I don't bet, then they win. It's unbelievable to me. Lol
If you can win, the odds will be very favorable. No problem, just not yet. Keep up the good work buddy.
4099  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why gambling beginners must not joke with casino announcement on: September 18, 2023, 04:34:53 PM
I won't deny that when I see other people winning big when gambling, I have that feeling, yes I also want to win big like them. And I don't think it's just me, I'm sure most gamblers feel the same way. But the difference here is when I can control myself not to follow that feeling, because I realize that each of us must have different luck.
Honestly, luck is subjective and varies greatly from person to person. However, what we can do is manage our finances and gambling activities to reduce the possibility of significant losses. And apart from that, we also have to improve our skills and knowledge about the world of gambling so that we can increase our chances of winning in gambling.
For some gambling games, skill is necessary, but for some games, I think it's useless. As in the case of slot games, what skills are needed in that game? Increasing or decreasing the bet amount each spin? That game is purely dependent on luck.
I agree that everyone's luck will be different, even in luck there may be lucky to win a large amount, and there are lucky with small wins.



I won't deny that when I see other people winning big when gambling, I have that feeling, yes I also want to win big like them. And I don't think it's just me, I'm sure most gamblers feel the same way. But the difference here is when I can control myself not to follow that feeling, because I realize that each of us must have different luck.
But I have an interesting story about this, I once saw my friend get the maximum win, and for some reason I was encouraged to play at that moment, and to my surprise, it turned out that I also got the maximum win. But I realized, at that time my luck was also great, if at that time I did not see my friend get the maximum win, I'm sure I was in the same luck.
How delightful to believe that ones experience is unique. Though, you may right; people find it tempting watching others succeed. What you've found is similar to what others desire: success and approval. However, congrats on your "maximum win." It is, after all, the dream, right? Watching others succeed, drawing motivation, and then connection success yourself? You do know that luck doesn't last forever, right? Being at the right place at the right moment is crucial sometimes. Try not to wait for your pal to score first next time.  Cheesy Cheesy
To be honest it was an experience that I don't remember exactly when it happened, 3 years or 4 years ago, but thank you for the congratulations.
It's natural as a human to connect something that actually has nothing to do with it at all, and it's something I hear very often, whether it's my personal experience or hearing from friends' stories.
If I can predict it correctly, then I'll score first before anyone else does, or even I'll play the day before the match. Lol
4100  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: September 18, 2023, 04:16:16 PM
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As for Napoli, nothing unexpected is happening, I initially said that Spalletti leaving the team would have a significant impact on the team. After four rounds they are 5 points behind Inter, in my opinion everything is clear here, despite the fact that they managed to keep Osimhen they have very little chance of competing for the Scudetto again. And Inter in the last round, with its 5:1 victory over Milan, showed shape of the team now.

So you think that Spalletti leaving Napoli had anything to do with their loss against Lazio? Seriously, I would like to understand your thinking here. Napoli played a great game, was overwhelming and Lazio could free themselves with two shots on target that both hit the back of the net. 90% of the time that game will be won by Napoli and they wouldn't be 5 points behind, but 2 points and nobody would really complain. Do you think Spalletti would have kicked one of their twenty chances into the goal himself? This doesn't make sense.
There seems to be a misunderstanding in understanding our conversation about Napoli. I've said this before too, that the expectation was even higher when Spalletti was here and gave Napoli a title. Surely that's why people's expectations are so high with their new coach now. Looking back at last season, Napoli's play was more promising than this season's, so it's only natural that we start pointing fingers at the coach to "blame" for this. I'm personally not referring to one game against Lazio, but their overall play.



I think, it is very inappropriate and or very wrong if you expect Napoli in this season to still have good performance and good results like last season. After all, if you realize about the quality of Napoli from previous seasons too, basically Napoli is not a great team that always has good dominance in Serie A in every season. With these factors, then even though Napoli won the Scudetto last season but still, you can't expect to Napoli still have good dominance this season. Lol! For example, you can consider how Milan and Inter won the Scudetto two and three seasons ago. Whether Milan and Inter able to maintain good performance afterwards? Lol, and this season also happened to Napoli, so Napoli current performance I think is natural, and no one can be blamed. LOL!
Napoli are not that fierce to compete to become champions in every season, but what we saw last season makes us believe in them more, at the same time this is their chance to be able to continue to compete for the title, because I see from all the clubs that have become regular champions in Seri A, they are still in the process of restoring their identity. I think it's normal when the coach becomes the first target for the decline in a club's appearance, I don't just see this in Napoli, but many clbs do the same thing, namely making the coach the main target to blame.
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