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4101  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [Share][Diskusi] Legalitas Pembayaran Menggunakan Crypto Beberapa Negara Dunia on: April 19, 2020, 02:54:53 AM
Kalau Pemerintah Mengakui, User Bitcoin Bakal Tambah Banyak, Dan Pengaruh FIAT Punya Bank Sentral Melemah. Kalo Kekuatan Bank Sentral Melemah, Kebijakan Moneter Bakal Kurang Efektif, Yang Mana Cukup Buruk. (Mungkin Terlalu Hiperbolik)

Belum Juga Masalah 'Nasionalisme', "Ngapain Anjing Pemerintah Ngelegalin Bitcoin, Rupiah Harusnya Jadi Satu-Satunya Mata Uang Yang Legal Di Indonesia". Bakal Ada 'Public Backlash' Dari Golongan Konservatif(Mayoritas).

Sampai Sekarang Ane Masih Belum Nemu Dampak Positif Yang Signifikan Kalau Suatu Pemerintah Melegalkan Bitcoin sebagai Alat Pembayaran.

Bagi Sebagian Besar Pemerintah, Kerugian Yang Didapat Lebih Besar Dari Keuntungan Melegalkan Bitcoin.
Negara-negara ga setakut itu kalee ama Bitcoin, lha ente pikir aja bisa ngga sih dengan kapasitas tx/detik yang kecil bisa menggantikan FIAT? Mereka mengilegalkan Bitcoin simply karena ini uang sering dipakai buat yang aneh-aneh.

Keuntungannya besar kalau buat merchant di Indo yang kliennya di luar negeri, ane misalnya kalau bisa menerbitkan invoice penagihan di kripto bisa mengurangi biaya signifikan dari bisnis ane. Cuma ya itu tadi sulit dilegalkan terkait AML.

Btw, kenapa klasifikasi aturannya cuma 4? Dasarnya dari teori apaan ya?
Common sense keknya.



Mendukung Bitcoin ga harus jadi anarko a.k.a anti pemerintah garis keras. Itu pilihan masing-masing saja. Sudah bagus di Indonesia masih bisa depo/wd dengan nyaman, sudah dilindungi juga dengan regulasi PFAK.
4102  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [DOTA 2] ESL One Los Angeles 2020 MAJOR ONLINE TOURNAMENT [GAMBLING DISCUSSION] on: April 17, 2020, 01:55:54 PM
Anyone currently watches Alliance vs. Vikin.gg 2nd round? I think it will be a close match. Let's watch Zeus vs Brood Grin
For those of you who just recently join the stream. In the 1st round, S4 sama picked Centaur Grin but their draft is good at the early-mid game, so they won easily.
4103  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Monero get delisted, again on: April 17, 2020, 01:43:08 PM
Governments hate privacy coins, and they will put as many restrictions as possible. Big CEX wouldn't dare to challenge the government and support Monero (well except semi-regulated one like Binance et al.). Hence, we will see Major exchanges will gradually delist Monero. But don't worry, there will be small exchanges that appear here and there to serve Monero users.
4104  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Well Organized Scam Projects on: April 17, 2020, 01:28:54 PM
The Golden rule of investment is to always risk what you can afford to lose. Having done app the necessary homework on any project, sometimes it is difficult to pick out the scammy ones, in this case little risk will save you from losing too much.
The first golden rule should be (1) never investing in something you don't understand, then if you know what you are doing, (2) never use too many leverages.

Anyway, if you guys want to invest in altcoin, better try community coins (preferably PoW) first like Monero, LTC, raven, etc. Tokens are just 99.9% scam most of the time. Better buy stocks!
4105  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ESPORTS - predictions and tips (Dota 2, CS:GO, LoL) on: April 17, 2020, 12:50:21 PM
Yeah, throws, whether intentionally or not, are a problem in DOTA2. It's been ten years since we taste competitive gaming (or esports), but we see the level of maturity is still bellow expectations. Anyway, I don't see REKT opportunity for today's matches:
- Evil Geniuses (1.51) vs Quincy Crew (2.40)
- Cloud9 (1.61) vs Furia Esports (2.17)

Betting for Cloud9 and Quincy Crew seem tempting? lol
4106  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ESPORTS - predictions and tips (Dota 2, CS:GO, LoL) on: April 17, 2020, 06:53:16 AM
Who's waiting for EG vs Cloud9? C9 (5.8x) is heavily underdog here. Years ago, they used to be a good team, but now EG is heavily favorite with only 1.1x multiplier. It's like saying there is no chance C9 will win lol. They come back from 2 years inactivity just to become a punching bag. So sad...
Cloud 9 Disband> Make New Team NP > Disband Again > Now Re-Life Cloud 9 Again with the same roster ~LOL~.

Seeing their roster, IDK why they always picking Jacky Mao A.K.A EE Sama to the roster team.

A few years after he out from "Team Secret" there is still no improvement at all about his game play. Watching his stream a couple of times, still same like the oldest EE always throwing the games not just on the public match also on the tournament.

Get REKT bettors! Grin
EG threw so hard in the 2nd game with the four spirits + Bristleback draft and got decimated in the 3rd game.

Well, EE sama had decent performance overall, and he carried the team with Medusa Grin
4107  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: April 16, 2020, 07:49:49 PM
How about we discuss what the poll is asking. Where will be Pochettino’s next job?

He’s been out of work for a while now, I presume he’ll be well rested & ready to work again soon. 
The probability for him to MU is slim at the moment because the board seems happy with Ole's performance. I think they had enough of "outsiders."

I think with Newcastle Arab money, he can be there but need to compete with Rafa as he is fans favorite. Or he can manage a Spanish club other than Real Madrid and Barcelona. I mean Poch's current achievement still not enough for him to move freely to big clubs, unlike Mourinho.
4108  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ESPORTS - predictions and tips (Dota 2, CS:GO, LoL) on: April 16, 2020, 07:38:20 PM
Who's waiting for EG vs Cloud9? C9 (5.8x) is heavily underdog here. Years ago, they used to be a good team, but now EG is heavily favorite with only 1.1x multiplier. It's like saying there is no chance C9 will win lol. They come back from 2 years inactivity just to become a punching bag. So sad...
4109  Economy / Economics / Re: Proposed Bill Would Give Americans $2,000 A Month Until Economy Recovers on: April 16, 2020, 05:49:09 PM
Well, whether this $2,000 will be granted or not, the $2.2 trillion CARES Act is still there. It's our opportunity to see if the mainstream economists are correct about printing money as a means to avoid recession/depression. The logic should be simple, that is the government must pay its debt. They may or may not get away with this recession, but this decision will backfire them at some point in the future, except if people will be so rich so that they can pay high taxes.
4110  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [INFO NEWBIE] 3 Potensi Penghasilan Tanpa Modal di Dunia Cryptocurrency on: April 16, 2020, 05:09:29 PM
di Games and rounds dan Micro Earnings biasanya banyak yang suka giveaway, syaratnya kadang cuma register dan narok nomor di thread.
Bener, sedikit nambahin agar pastiin dulu giveaway BTC dan bukan altcoin, karena giveaway altcoin melanggar peraturan forum.
Kemarin sempet jadi kasus https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5234398.msg54070971#msg54070971
4111  Economy / Economics / Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end? on: April 16, 2020, 04:55:09 PM
trump is desperately trying to deflect blame for american incompetence onto the WHO and china. it's definitely conjuring up belligerent sentiment from westerners, who are eating it up by the spoonful.
Well, I would say all of them (i.e., Trump, WHO, CCP) take part in this madness; however, CCP & WHO should take most of the blame.

i'm seeing calls for military intervention in china now, even from prominent bitcoiners.
...
people become so rabid so quickly. just feed them a little propaganda and they become flag-waving war hawks.....
To be honest, I don't think the US military intervention can free people from CCP or other authoritarian regimes. If any of the US, China, Russia go to war, it's undoubtedly will be catastrophic for the planet. I hope the Chinese will have the same sanity level as the Russian so that no one will push the button.

Anyway, to say China will be the king after this pandemic is too short-sighted, wait until WTO privilege about developing country lifted. Then we shall see new dynamics.
4112  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: When Will You Start Buying Again on: April 15, 2020, 05:04:07 PM
As lockdown remains to continue people are running out of money so most of them are selling and I guess this is the best opportunity to make use of the situation.
Well, if you have the money, then it's okay. However, don't you also feel the economic impact? Maybe only the medical and pharma industry is positively affected by Covid-19.
The problem is most of us want to buy cheap, but broke as a joke when that opportunity happen. lol Grin
4113  Economy / Economics / Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end? on: April 15, 2020, 04:36:33 PM
we are already seeing that china economy didn't drop much and there already making money in this crisis.
Who said that? CCP propaganda networks? With globalization, all markets are connected, so they will also experience revenues decrease.

Anyway,

As supreme President Trump said, the Chinese become dominant because they gamed the WTO to include them as a developing country.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-11-14/here-s-what-it-means-to-be-a-wto-developing-country-quicktake

Moreover, they have made the US angry with the coronavirus and WHO scandal. With that in mind, we should pray there will be no WWIII.
4114  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Cheating or Not? on: April 15, 2020, 04:19:51 PM
if they do that without agreement, sure they cheating, but as long as i know, in every campaign, bounty manager or core team have right to change rules, and they including it at agreement section in every bounty thread they made. And thats not a new thing in bounty campaign, and its okey for me as long as the project is legit.
Yes they can change the rules any times as its stated in the Original post when they participated in a campaign. If the manager agree they will not ask for a kyc in the first time you join then thats different things, however since they are able to change rules any time you still required to follow what they change.  Even yoh dont like it, the only option you can do now is whether accept and make the kyc or forget your payment and do not make any kyc.
This "dev can do whatever they want if stated on the OP" is not entirely correct. Changing terms and conditions even though it has been stated and agreed don't imply it will be legitimate.

In the real world:
Quote
The Court put the situation pretty simply: "The safeway.com agreement did not give Safeway the power to bind its customers to unknown future contract terms, because consumers cannot assent to terms that do not yet exist. A user confronting a contract in which she purports to agree to terms in whatever form they may appear in the future cannot know to what she is are agreeing."
Source: Koepke, 2015
4115  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [INFO NEWBIE] 3 Potensi Penghasilan Tanpa Modal di Dunia Cryptocurrency on: April 15, 2020, 01:45:06 PM
Pelinesia ndak bikin web sekalian saja? Sayang kalau cuma di blogspot...

Untuk mendapatkan potensi penghasilan di dunia mata uang digital ini juga terbagi menjadi 2, yakni menggunakan modal dan tanpa menggunakan modal. Disini kita akan berfokus pada mendapatkan penghasilan tanpa modal dengan alasan tidak semua orang memiliki modal.
Sebetulnya semua hal itu butuh modal gan, dengkul itu juga modal. Modal dibagi menjadi (1) berwujud dan (2) tidak berwujud. Tenaga, keahlian, dan waktu merupakan modal tidak berwujud.

1. Menjadi Airdropper
Terms-nya lebih tepat kalau airdrop hunter sebetulnya gan karena akhiran -er merujuk pada pelaku yang memberi. Dalam hal ini airdropper merupakan orang yang memberikan airdrop, bukan mencari airdrop. Kalau mendapat airdrop berarti airdropee CMIIW Grin Sama juga kayak trainer (pelatih), trainee (yang dilatih).

Ada yang kelupaan, jadi konten kreator kek pelinesia...
4116  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [GUIDE] Online Gambling Affiliate - Make Money Promoting Online Gambling on: April 15, 2020, 01:29:47 PM
what exactly do you mean when saying gambling content creation is forbidden? In general, promotion of online gambling is still missing regulation (almost everywhere) and even here in Europe, there are EU-laws but the countries just dont give a sh**... In Germany for example, bookmakers and casinos are running tv ads and are being promoted in football stadiums etc. - the very same operators do not have legal licenses though, you see, its wild wild west... Needless to say that the promotion of crypto gambling is completely out of space - who would/could stop you from setting up a website for example in English and promote crypto casinos, no matter where you are located?
Creating a website in English is out-of-reach, that's I agree, but it's not what I implied mate from my previous comment. Because, if I do that, my web will compete with native speaker owned website, and I don't think I'll win that battle, or should I say it's already bloody ocean. Even though I write a lot for these past two years, but my language will still sound stiff, incorrect in some part, and not compelling. That said, I would rather compete in Bahasa, but my web will definitely be blocked by "internet positif" -- shitty government filtering software Grin

Thanks anyway with the idea, I'll practice more and let's see what will happen.
4117  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [GUIDE] Online Gambling Affiliate - Make Money Promoting Online Gambling on: April 15, 2020, 10:03:00 AM
Earning from affiliates (referrals) definitely possible, and I envy you guys who can freely do content creation about gambling in your country. For example, in Indonesia, creating promotional content for gambling is forbidden. It sucks! Anyway, I tried affiliate programs for exchanges and e-commerce, and yes, it can give me some money.

From what I see, successful affiliates often are thought leaders, celebrities, and ones who create communities. That said, if you are trusted, then people will be more comfortable to click your links and decide to support you. Plus, it works better if there is a bonus for users who registered via your links.
4118  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Cheating or Not? on: April 15, 2020, 09:35:33 AM
Cheating or NOT Cheating?

Coming from altcoinstalk forum I've experience few projects going against their own rules like saying on promotion page that no KYC will be required and after promotion ends they tell promoters to go and open account on an exchange and pass KYC, what can this be called? Cheating? Any consequences for such projects on this forum? Thank you.
In my opinion, generally, I consider this a violation of the agreement and can be flagged. However, usually, they stated on the OP that they could change the rule if they want. So, if you decided to participate knowing that they can change the rule, then this problem becomes debatable. Well, usually, this kind of problem in real life would be settled in court, but, for this forum, a neutral tag is justifiable.

Red tag or flag, maybe? I'm not sure. You can ask in reputation board about this issue.
4119  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [SHARE]Chart Tradingview berguna untuk melihat data penyebaran Covid-19 on: April 15, 2020, 09:07:49 AM
saat saya membandingkan dari segi hitungan kalender, pada tanggal 19 Maret 2020 seperti yang terlihat di Chart, pada tanggal tersebut Confirmed Covid-19 baru akan naik secara drastis. sedangkan pada tanggal yang sama juga terjadi pada Bitcoin yang mengalami penurunan yang drastis.
Sepertinya longsor terjadi pada tanggal 11 Maret 2020 gan, tepat saat WHO mengumumkan Pandemik Covid-19
https://time.com/5791661/who-coronavirus-pandemic-declaration/

Ini menjadi indikasi kalau pasar BTC bereaksi sangat cepat terhadap berita.

Yang tidak ane sangka adalah cepatnya rebound pasar BTC maupun pasar saham.. apakah memang dampaknya belum berasa yak? Kalau ane pribadi sih sudah berasa  Cry
4120  Other / Meta / Re: why hoarding Smerits? on: April 13, 2020, 04:35:42 PM
@OP
I believe hoarding is not the correct term to explain why some of the members who have lots of merits seem stingy or slow to spend their sMerits. Well, you know they can't stay online 24/7 and giving merit is a wearying activity (or should I say it sucks, lol). So many cheaters, copy pasters, plagiarists, etc., made them have to be careful with giving sMerits.
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