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4121  Economy / Speculation / Re: Short now = make lots of money? on: January 26, 2015, 03:37:13 AM
Always gotta laugh at these noob shorters getting late to the party and thinking they can get rich easily shorting BTC. Cheesy
I'm even more interested in noobs shorting when they apparently know more about shorting when they belly up to the bar than that what they're messing with when they sign up here, unless they have schooled themselves about this present market prior to doing so. Tonight is great for a learner's permit.
4122  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC going strong on: January 26, 2015, 03:32:43 AM
I never thought it would hit the 290 mark tonight and still hanging in the low 280s; unreal unless the news for tomorrow actually drives the market up for a change. I just don't know what to say. Huh- Cool
4123  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Closed] KnCMiner Neptune(s) Shares GB6 .018 = 2.25GH per share - Batch 2 on: January 26, 2015, 12:57:00 AM
Still nothing.  No units, no overall communication from George, this has gone downhill Sad.
The last payment he made was on the 28th of last month so he might've turned the rigs off and perhaps lost patience with KNC and wrote them off. Wish there was a positive way out of this but I doubt it at this point.
4124  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Pro-Big Government Candidates for US President 2016 on: January 25, 2015, 11:20:05 PM
John Bolton Is Still Thinking About Rescuing the GOP in 2016
Big time neocon and walrus look alike

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John Bolton, the former American ambassador to the United Nations, may run for president. Yes, yes, he said that in 2011, and he ended up taking a pass, endorsing Mitt Romney, and sticking with his busy life of columns, Fox News appearances, and legal work in Washington. This year might be different.

"I did look at running in 2011," Bolton said in an interview before heading to Iowa for Saturdays' Citizens United-sponsored Iowa Freedom Summit. "Whatever bright idea I had 2011, I waited too long. This year, I think the summer is the outer limit for everybody, and I’m in a different position from the typical candidate in that I don't have some elective office to tend to."

Some people run for president to build a brand. Bolton, who has never won elective office, has an astoundingly durable brand already. He was just on TV this week, several times, denouncing the president for delivering the State of the Union from a "dream world." He's advised Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal, who may run for president (and will be on the Freedom Summit rostrum) on foreign policy. Years removed from his job in the George W. Bush administration, he launched a PAC and Super PAC in 2013 and raised an aggregated $7.5 million for Republican hawks running for office, most of whom won. That was probably helped by the fitful presidential race speculation, and Bolton insists that he may run if other Republican contenders prove unserious about foreign policy. He wouldn't, for example, say that Mitt Romney's foreign policy views had been vindicated after 2012, and that he deserved another shot at the White House.

“I don’t see myself as fulfilling the function of S&P index for other candidates,” said Bolton. “I’m concerned overall with our foreign policy. It’s a question not of a couple of grafs in a stump speech, but of a much broader and focused debate on the big picture.”

A year ago, Bolton's 2016 ambitions seemed to grow out of the Rand Paul boomlet, when the inward-looking libertarian was being called a "frontrunner." With Jeb Bush and Mitt Romney getting serious about 2016, the foreign policy landscape has changed considerably.

“I don’t think the neo-isolationism represented by Rand Paul is anything like a significant factor in the GOP as a whole," said Bolton. "But if you don’t have a debate on it, candidates who advocate that line might be better than you expect, because they’re not exposed. If they have an attractive domestic policy, people might look past their foreign policy. I think defeating this virus is important.”


Would Bolton vote for Paul if he won the nomination? "Anybody who thinks Hillary Clinton’s foreign policy is better than Obama's is dreaming. I’d grit my teeth and vote for Paul.”

Bolton's prepared remarks for Saturday's summit largely focus on foreign policy. In them he warns of Ebola as a "potential biological WMD," explaining that "Russian defectors have said it was part of Moscow’s biological weapons program." When he talks about the economy, it's in the context that "a strong economy depends on [a] strong international presence."

But when pressed on why he might not want to be president, or if there was anything he disliked about the idea, Bolton insisted that he would focus on more than foreign policy. "If I run it’ll be a 360 degree candidacy," he said. "If the press—you’ll forgive me—can say 'He’s a one issue candidate,' they can dismiss me."

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http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-01-24/john-bolton-still-thinking-about-a-rescuing-the-gop-in-2016
4125  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Pro-Big Government Candidates for US President 2016 on: January 25, 2015, 11:17:08 PM
Rubio has a voting record that suggests that he's fiscally conservative on some things but when it comes to foreign policy, civil rights at home (he's pro-everything from expanded NSA spying on civilian powers to spending big on the DHS) and siding w/ the banksters and the other entrenched lobbies he's about as fascistic or pro-big government as they come. He's all for the status quo on Cuba which is where he picked his latest fight w/ Rand and this is where he's got his name out again. If all we're going to get out of the GOP primary is another Bush neocon type that wouldn't hesitate to get aggressive w/ Russia or up the ante in the middle east, then we're just gonna keep draining whatever is left of the economy by spending even more money abroad all the while there's been a growing entitlement class here at home that has been suffering from a shit job market and inflation.
4126  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Blowout Victory For Syriza In Greek Elections on: January 25, 2015, 10:52:25 PM
So, basically the socialist minded have taken over and I'm sure that will do wonders for their recovery. Tell the banks to go pound sand seems to be their only way out but this will drag down the euro and make the usd even 'stronger'. I'm certainly no expert on what's going down over there but it doesn't look groovy.
4127  Economy / Speculation / Re: Let's talk about the price! - Official Whaleclub teamspeak topic. on: January 25, 2015, 05:55:11 AM
Is this like the Big Bang Theory also?
4128  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 25, 2015, 04:36:03 AM
if the IRS wants to seize your assets can they take BTC out of your coinbase account or freeze it?
You better believe it if your other collateral for taxes isn't available or able to be collected. That's the extra price of doing biz with such an easy to access entity. That said, we may be in for a retrace in price for a short time, maybe around the $230 mark w/i a week or so and then another decent move up before a consolidation. Nothing is etched in stone but it's something to keep an eye out for. No bear meanderings here, just sayin.
4129  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 24, 2015, 05:02:57 AM
We have a major Bull problem, the market is going up and toward the moon.
4130  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Pro-Big Government Candidates for US President 2016 on: January 24, 2015, 02:44:41 AM
Rubio Gets Ready

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Sen. Marco Rubio has begun taking concrete steps toward launching a presidential bid, asking his top advisors to prepare for a campaign, signing on a leading Republican fundraiser, and planning extensive travel to early-voting states in the coming weeks, ABC News has learned.

"He has told us to proceed as if he is running for president," a senior Rubio advisor tells ABC News.

Marco Rubio Insists Jeb Bush Won't Affect His 2016 Timetable
Leading the effort to raise the $50 million or more he’ll need to run in the Republican primaries will be Anna Rogers, currently the finance director for American Crossroads, the conservative group started by Karl Rove that raised more than $200 million to help elect Republicans over the past two elections.

Rogers will begin working at Rubio’s political action committee on February 1 and would become the finance director of Rubio’s presidential campaign.

Rubio, 43, will gather on Friday and Saturday at the Delano Hotel in Miami with 300 supporters and major donors to his Reclaim America PAC to discuss his political future.

Aides expect Rubio will make a final decision in the comings weeks, but his schedule for the next month already looks more like the schedule of a presidential candidate than a senator.

ABC News has learned Rubio plans to skip all votes in the Senate next week and instead take a campaign fundraising swing through California with events in Beverly Hills, Newport Beach, Rancho Sante Fe and Costa Mesa. He also plans fundraising stops in Texas and Chicago.

Rubio has also scheduled a book tour that will take him to all the early primary states. A senior aide to the Florida senator tells ABC News Rubio’s book tour will include stops in Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina, Florida and Nevada. The first stop is tentatively scheduled for February 13 in Des Moines.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/exclusive-marco-rubio-moves-2016-presidential-bid/story?id=28415410

This neocon got elected to the US Senate from Florida back in the 2010 Tea Party wave. But actually where his allegiance lies is in a hawkish foreign policy rather than in the fiscal restraint of the federal government from top to bottom, like Rand Paul. The bottom line is, he's real close to Jeb Bush on policy and his financiers are nearly identical. Rubio outed himself as a fraud when he was elbow deep in the "Gang of 8's" move a few years ago to push for immigration reform (aka amnesty) w/o any pursuance of border tightening which pissed off conservatives from all stripes and proved the guy was just a chamber of commerce republican or worse, a water boy for them and their senior officials. Rubio is just filler material to place in the list of republicans running so they can saturate the debate stage and the media's reporting of the primary race of where the typical republican would stand on foreign policy along w/ Bush, Romney and the rest to make it look like Rand Paul is out of the GOP mainstream on this matter just like they did to his dad, Ron. More to come.
4131  Other / Politics & Society / Re: CNN national poll: Rand Paul 13%, Bush 13%, Ryan 12%, Huckabee 10%, Christie 9% on: January 24, 2015, 02:31:07 AM
Barbara Boxer, Rand Paul work together on Iran bill

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How’s this for a political odd couple? Liberal Sen. Barbara Boxer and conservative Sen. Rand Paul working together on foreign policy.

The retiring Boxer (D-Calif.) and possible presidential contender Paul (R-Ky.) are teaming up to create a “moderate proposal” on Iran sanctions, Boxer said Wednesday morning. They aim to offer an alternative to bipartisan legislation that is gaining steam that would impose new economic penalties on Iran if Western nations fail to strike an agreement on winding down Tehran’s nuclear program. Those sanctions would begin taking effect in July.

Boxer said the sanctions proposal, written by Sens. Robert Menendez (D-N.J.) and Mark Kirk (R-Ill.), would not “strengthen us at all” as negotiations continue with Iran. Paul, whose foreign policy style is less interventionist than that of many Republicans, did not co-sponsor similar bipartisan legislation when it was introduced last year, making him one of just two GOP senators to hold off on endorsing that bill.

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/01/barbara-boxer-rand-paul-iran-bill-114446.html
4132  Other / Politics & Society / Re: CNN national poll: Rand Paul 13%, Bush 13%, Ryan 12%, Huckabee 10%, Christie 9% on: January 24, 2015, 02:27:04 AM
Koch-backed network pulls back curtain on gathering of wealthy donors
Rand Paul to be in first 2016 campaign smackdown
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For the first time, a private gathering of wealthy conservative political donors brought together by Charles and David Koch will allow a look inside its much-scrutinized conclaves.

On Sunday night, the group will share with news organizations a live Web stream of one of its final panels set to be held in the weekend at a luxurious Palm Springs resort. The session will feature three potential 2016 presidential contenders: Sens. Ted Cruz of Texas, Rand Paul of Kentucky and Marco Rubio of Florida.

The three Republicans will participate in a discussion of economic prosperity, health care and energy titled the “American Recovery Policy Forum,” moderated by ABC News chief White House correspondent Jonathan Karl. ABC is billing the event as the first forum of the year featuring presidential hopefuls.

"Our members care deeply about the future of our nation, and we're honored to host some of today's most influential and respected leaders in shaping public policy,” said James Davis, spokesman for Freedom Partners Chamber of Commerce, the tax-exempt advocacy group backed by the Kochs and other major donors that hosts the gathering.

“We hope that this panel will give each participant the opportunity to lay out their vision of free markets and the role of government,” Davis said in a statement. “Our goal in 2015 is to help inform the national debate around key domestic economic issues, and this forum is the beginning of that conversation."

It’s a dramatic change in approach for the Koch-backed operation, which has withheld information about previous donor seminars, held under tight security. The events – typically held in Palm Springs in the winter and in Colorado in the summer – feature prominent GOP officials as guests and high-brow panel discussions about economic and political theory.

The Kochs and their allies have also used the seminars to rally donors to support their far-reaching political network. At a session last year, the organization declared its goal of spending $290 million in the run-up to the 2014 midterm elections.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2015/01/22/koch-backed-network-pulls-back-curtain-on-gathering-of-wealthy-donors/
4133  Other / Politics & Society / Re: CNN national poll: Rand Paul 13%, Bush 13%, Ryan 12%, Huckabee 10%, Christie 9% on: January 24, 2015, 02:23:27 AM
How Rand Paul Is Helping To Reinvent Republicans

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This story was originally published on Ozy.

It’s true that the Republican Party remains a lot older, whiter and male-er than the American population as a whole. But that doesn’t mean the party isn’t changing — it’s just not changing in a way that’s always visible to the naked eye. In fact, the GOP is undergoing a kind of evolution as it figures out how to maintain unity among its pro-business, social conservative and libertarian factions. Those dividing lines are going to be on sharp display as the 2016 presidential campaigns gear up.

Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul is, of course, the poster child for the libertarian movement within the party, but he’s not the only one embracing a more laissez-faire attitude on certain issues, such as drugs and gay marriage, that social conservatives abhor. More mainstream Republicans, like former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, also offer some crossover appeal on social issues. Paul lines up with the pro-business side in supporting President Barack Obama’s recent moves to ease the long-standing embargo on Cuba. Where they diverge is on spending, particularly on government programs that benefit the business community. There, the right wing and the libertarian movement are on the same page, happy to whack away at spending even at the expense of businesses.

The growing power of libertarian ideas in the Republican Party is no flash in the pan, according to anti-tax icon Grover Norquist. Rather, libertarianism is “a long-term trend with no obvious roadblock in sight,” he writes in an OZY op-ed. Paul, in other words, is just the beginning.

More...http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/22/rand-paul-republicans_n_6521584.html
4134  Other / Politics & Society / Re: CNN national poll: Rand Paul 13%, Bush 13%, Ryan 12%, Huckabee 10%, Christie 9% on: January 24, 2015, 02:21:13 AM
Rand Paul to open political office in Austin

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Sen. Rand Paul is planning to open a political office in Austin, tapping into Texas technology talent ahead of a likely presidential bid.


The space is slated to open in spring or early summer, said Doug Stafford, Paul’s chief political adviser. The Kentucky Republican is also opening a Silicon Valley office in the coming months.

ustin is a rare haven for liberals in deep-red Texas, but it’s also a hot spot for start-ups and technology companies. The libertarian-leaning Paul has made overtures to the technology community — even in California’s progressive Bay Area — as he prepares for a 2016 campaign.

“Our intention is to crowd source many things — innovations, applications, volunteer efforts on the digital and political side,” Stafford said in an email. “Austin has a lot of supporters and a lot of talent, and we plan to take advantage of both and have a Team Rand hub there.”

Vincent Harris, the digital strategist for Paul’s political arm, RANDPAC, is based in Austin, which he referred to as “Silicon Hills.”

The city “has energetic, supportive, creative talent,” Harris said. “There’s a large, active, liberty crowd. Since coming on board, we’ve had smart people literally just show up at my company’s office wanting to get involved, it will be a place to channel them.”

The Lone Star State will loom large in the 2016 GOP primary. Paul and former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush grew up in Texas. They, along with former Texas Gov. Rick Perry and Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, all are expected to run for the White House.

“We want to attract the best talent possible to help motivate the largest amount of people possible, and Austin’s market will allow the senator to do that,” Harris said.

More...http://www.politico.com/story/2015/01/rand-paul-austin-texas-office-114452.html#ixzz3Pf1kgv5D
4135  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 23, 2015, 05:54:49 AM
Stop this shit, I get it on this point.
4136  Other / Meta / Re: looks like a few posts were deleted... on: January 23, 2015, 05:40:45 AM
Unless I'm guessing wrong or freewheeling, it seems legit to me. Idk.
4137  Economy / Speculation / Re: Winklevoss launching "Gemini" serving bitcoin to wall street on a golden plate on: January 23, 2015, 05:38:34 AM
I'm gonna shit, the site is back! what r we talking about again? Oh yeah, go Winks! I';m for it.
4138  Economy / Speculation / Re: NYSE invests in bitcoin ecosystem on: January 21, 2015, 06:26:07 AM
It would be one thing if the newer folks shaded their nonsense for some time but most go full crackpipe showing their true colors. Ignore and ostracizing is the only option at this point. Dumbest thing I've read here in a while that wallst is going into alts at the deterioration of bitcoin. So ridiculous.
4139  Economy / Speculation / Re: Who is dumping BTC? on: January 21, 2015, 06:21:55 AM
Greedy BTC buyers are dumping, because they want to buy more coins back with lower price.
I'm not seeing it unless you just posted a message you meant to send out a week ago. Now, I'm not saying the complete opposite is true but there certainly isn't a dump going on. The price is on the sturdy end of the last handful of days.
4140  Other / Off-topic / Re: What Song are you Listening To? on: January 21, 2015, 06:13:40 AM
https://www.freetalklive.com/ The biggest libertarian talk show in the world that is live everyday (7-10pm est) which has over 160 radio affiliates and listeners all across the world. The hosts are participants in the Free State Project. https://freestateproject.org/
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