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4141  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Services possible only using BTC on: October 20, 2011, 05:01:08 PM
Donations to wikileaks, occupy wall streets etc...
4142  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Mining with my personal gaming PC, bad idea? on: October 20, 2011, 04:58:45 PM
This sounds like a quick way to burn out your video card and all you'll get out of it is $5-10, if you're lucky.

Stick to gaming and let the professionals mine bitcoins.
1)Gamers usually ARE the professionals
2)No, the card won't burn out. Guess what, it's MADE to work. You buy it to USE IT! (of course you have to check temperatures)

Bad idea, if I mine my computer is very slow, I have to stop my other programs.
I have no problems, i always mine while i use my pc. Of course i stop mining when i play. Just disable gpu for the browser and flash
4143  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Witch Bitcoin Symbol? EVERYONE VOTE AND USE!!! on: October 20, 2011, 12:06:55 PM
Good luck for thailand to attack bitcoin  Smiley
4144  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Ideas for a Bitcoin 2.0 on: October 19, 2011, 05:32:32 AM
About the "ideas": NO
4145  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Mac user and curl return value =22 on: October 18, 2011, 07:51:58 PM
You didn't even explain what are you trying to do, with what software and what else...

Mining? Solo or pool?
4146  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Restoring Lost Bitcoins on: October 18, 2011, 05:58:11 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=8657.0

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The current software only allows division up to 8 decimal places. That's not a hard limit.

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First, we can change from 64 bit to 128 bit at any time.  My guess is that we will do it for technical reasons LONG before economic reasons show up.
4147  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: n00b question: is BTC infrastructure *really* 100% decentralized? on: October 18, 2011, 05:55:21 PM
Yes, it's 100% decentralized.

Of course that doesn't stop us from having some centralized things like exchanges or mining pools. But they aren't required. You can solo mine, you can exchange bitcoins with anyone you want without using the exchanges and so on.

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Where do the miners/pools connect to get their problems to solve?
To the pool server. You can start a pool and then people would connect to you, that's all.

You can solo mine of course. But since the average user would have to wait months to find a block, we all use pools  Cheesy
4148  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Restoring Lost Bitcoins on: October 18, 2011, 05:52:08 PM
You can have infinite decimals if you want.

Or change name, for example use 1 bitcent instead of 0.01 bitcoins. As you wish, just easy changes in the client
4149  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: So do I need to install special software to use bitcoins? on: October 18, 2011, 05:50:31 PM
No you don't need to install anything, but then you will have to rely on web services

Now, since bitcoin born to let you manage your bitcoins in local, understanding how the bitcoin client work may be a good idea. The wallet file for example is where your bitcoins are. If they are in mt.gox for example they will be in the mt.gox wallet file. If you install the bitcoin client, you will have your personal wallet file and you can send bitcoins to it (and then if you lose it your bitcoins are lost too), like when you go in a bank and draw some money.
4150  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: In Ukraine was arrestet Bitcoins seller. on: October 18, 2011, 05:47:39 PM
He should explain us better what happened. Bitcoin doesn't magically make illegal things legal. If you break the laws while using bitcoins, you still go to jail, of course!
4151  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Media : Bitcoin is Done on: October 18, 2011, 05:46:40 PM
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"Why turn my X into Y, when Y is going down so hard?".
Because it's the only way to donate to wikileaks and occupy wall street. Paypal happily blocked the donations to them.
4152  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin Wallet - Address vs Labels on: October 18, 2011, 05:43:48 PM
OK, there are there, but how do I get them into my wallet? I am using a diffrent computer than the one that generated the address that I gave the sender. How do I enter that address into my wallet? It only generates new ones.

Thanks,
You are doing it wrong.

When you start the Bitcoin client it automatically create a wallet.dat file in that pc. And it give you addresses to allow other people to send bitcoins to you.
Everytime you receive bitcoins, they are put in the wallet.dat file.
Then you can send them to others as you wish.

If you use ANOTHER pc of course you have to manually move the file and put it in the right place (roaming/bitcoin) in the new pc. So it can use the bitcoins inside that wallet.dat

You must make sure you never lose the wallet.dat that contain your bitcoins. If you for example received bitcoins on another computer too, you will have 2 different wallets with bitcoins in them. Well either move them in one of them or make sure you don't mess and lose with them

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So if the PC that generated that key is dead, I will not be able to retrieve them ever?
What do you mean with dead? Your pc happily died after a day?

Well if you lost the wallet.dat file yes you lost your bitcoins.
4153  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Restoring Lost Bitcoins on: October 18, 2011, 05:39:02 PM
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The solution is to define an expiration period for bitcoins
NO

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The expiration interval could be a very comfortable one, say, 10 years.
NO




No? Why?

Since there is no way of telling idle bitcoins from lost ones, the only way I see to tell them apart is forcing the idle ones to "show up" before some "deadline," and if they don't, then expire them. If not, then please let me (and the others) know why not.
Hello, wake up. Read what i bolded. We DO NOT WANT to lose bitcoins. THERE IS NO NEED to tell "lost bitcoins" from idle ones. There is NO NEED to make them show up. NO NEED to set a deadline and let them EXPIRE!

Seriously, do GOLD expire? NO! Why my BITCOIN should expire? Cause a noob so decided in the noob forum? Nah.

Here is why lost bitcoins are a problem: they will not be a problem as the loss of large 'savings' wallets. They will rather become a problem when Bitcoin is used by billions of people, each losing an "irrelevant" amount of bitcoins: these billions of "irrelevant" losses can have a big impact on the money supply. As for the 'savings' wallet, it will either be accessing some investment system, or stored in some periodically self-connected gadget or even in a long-term storage device that we will check periodically since it has an important amount of money that we cannot aford to lose. The problem is rather in the small losses, once bitcoin becomes our society's money (that's what we want, right?).

Bitcoins are divisible into 8 decimal places.  Even if 1m bitcoins are 'lost', the money supply won't be affected, as there are many many 'units' of bitcoins available.

Let's do the math. There are 2,100,000,000,000,000 bitcoin units approximately. Let's assume there are 5 billion people using bitcoins and each one loses 1 bitcoin every year. Then, in ten years, the money supply will drop to 2,099,950,000,000,000, which is a significant economic impact.
What about nothing happens? The impact is on who lost the wallet, but that's their problem. Same when a ship full of gold sink. Other bitcoins will slightly increase in value. That's all.
And definitely do NOT justify deleting bitcoins cause...uhm... cause you want it.

And bitcoin are divisible as much as you wish. This 8 decimal thing is just a thing of the client, you can change it to how many decimal you want.
4154  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Media : Bitcoin is Done on: October 18, 2011, 05:29:04 PM
Don't you know? Forbes and wired command us. They declared bitcoin done, so it is done.
4155  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Anybody donating to Ron Paul ? on: October 18, 2011, 05:25:49 PM
Not me, we have enough problems here.

Oh i'm european.
4156  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Media : Bitcoin is Done on: October 18, 2011, 05:24:06 PM
Troll detected

and

Everyone know that forbes and wired are very important for bitcoin and they know a lot of it. We totally depend on them

4157  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Restoring Lost Bitcoins on: October 18, 2011, 04:32:29 PM
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The solution is to define an expiration period for bitcoins
NO

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The expiration interval could be a very comfortable one, say, 10 years.
NO




No? Why?

Since there is no way of telling idle bitcoins from lost ones, the only way I see to tell them apart is forcing the idle ones to "show up" before some "deadline," and if they don't, then expire them. If not, then please let me (and the others) know why not.
Hello, wake up. Read what i bolded. We DO NOT WANT to lose bitcoins. THERE IS NO NEED to tell "lost bitcoins" from idle ones. There is NO NEED to make them show up. NO NEED to set a deadline and let them EXPIRE!

Seriously, do GOLD expire? NO! Why my BITCOIN should expire? Cause a noob so decided in the noob forum? Nah.
4158  Local / Alt-Currencies (Italiano) / Re: Namecoin? on: October 18, 2011, 12:20:31 PM
hmm allora se è inutile come mai si stanno sbattendo per il merged mining?
Inutile?

4159  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: SolidCoin is a Scam on: October 18, 2011, 12:18:41 PM
If

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    Closed Source (You have idea if safe code is being ran)
    5% from every block found goes to a hard-coded account (tax)
    It has remote shutdown capabilities (Developer can control your client)

Is true then well yes, it's a scam
4160  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Restoring Lost Bitcoins on: October 18, 2011, 12:16:15 PM
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The solution is to define an expiration period for bitcoins
NO

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The expiration interval could be a very comfortable one, say, 10 years.
NO


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