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4141  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 06, 2014, 06:50:06 PM

Haven't you heard? The Great Insect War is long over and His Shadow is also dead. The Bru-nnen G took care of them all. You were wise to choose the reptilian race. What made you reanimate these old fallen gods? Lizards eat insects. You are going backwards.
...

We respect Insects.  Eat only humans.



  ~Your Beneficent Reptilian Overlords.
4142  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 06, 2014, 06:42:01 PM
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"CUT OFF ONE HEAD, AND TWO OTHERS TAKE ITS PLACE!"    Wink

Lol, playing whack-a-mole--perfect way to occupy baby feds.
*Rumors of client addy lists. Oo


4143  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 06, 2014, 06:34:21 PM
P.S. Hi SR2. Again, November. Weird.
And on top of that. The same day (6th november)! lol

SR2 not the only one.

the same time:
Hydra 14:52 – Confirmed Seized
Cloud 9 15:07 – Confirmed Seized
BlueSky 15:07
SR2 15:11 – Confirmed Seized
Pandora 15:15
Alpaca 15:18
TheHub forums 16:14

 http://www.deepdotweb.com/2014/11/06/silk-road-2-seized/



Huh

<==click
4144  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 06, 2014, 06:26:15 PM
go NSA




Good.  Good...
4145  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 06, 2014, 06:23:49 PM
P.S. Hi SR2. Again, November. Weird.
And on top of that. The same day (6th november)! lol

SR2 not the only one.

the same time:
Hydra 14:52 – Confirmed Seized
Cloud 9 15:07 – Confirmed Seized
BlueSky 15:07
SR2 15:11 – Confirmed Seized
Pandora 15:15
Alpaca 15:18
TheHub forums 16:14

 http://www.deepdotweb.com/2014/11/06/silk-road-2-seized/
4146  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 06, 2014, 05:53:03 PM
^
Nah, but US government put a man there once Cool
4147  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 06, 2014, 05:43:34 PM

No but they did spend over $1 billion dollars on a facility that doesn't function

Which is worse?

>Cowboyminer: Smallfry.

>NSAS: Inexhaustible supply of $$$

Who's in deeper shit?
So we went from who's more incompetent to who's in more trouble financially? Nice switch-a-roo

cowboyminer - 1 guy or a group of investors take a loss

8+mil/1 = 8mil per capita loss



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NSA facility - entire U.S government plan fails and tax payers get fucked..even though it's an expenditure that I'm sure they hope fails

Working just fine/316.1 mil (US population)



Yep Smiley

4148  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 06, 2014, 05:30:16 PM

No but they did spend over $1 billion dollars on a facility that doesn't function

Which is worse?

>Cowboyminer: Smallfry, possibly facing angry creditors into contact sports.

>NSAS: Inexhaustible supply of $$$, which are "printed out of thin air" anyhow.

Who's in deeper shit?
4149  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 06, 2014, 05:23:34 PM
SR2 really getting taken down??

D00d didn't know when to walk away Undecided
4150  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 06, 2014, 05:17:54 PM

Did it torch up like a mountain of old tires?  Cheesy
4151  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 06, 2014, 05:11:13 PM
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On the contrary, Good Professor. It's Statist who conflate "regulated" with "state-regulated". Regulation is too important to be left to governments. It's in the economic best interest of industries to self-regulate when they are not tempted to externalize costs with the help of the State.

And the difference between "no regulation" and "self-regulation" is?

Underwriter Laboratories is a good example. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UL_%28safety_organization%29 Industries are incentivized to adopt standard best practices.

I asked for the difference between self-regulation and no regulation.
You gave me a link to this:
"UL is one of several companies approved to perform safety testing by the US federal agency Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA)."
I'd like an answer, not a non-sequitur.


In your factory fire example, you need to understand that employers face competition for labor the same way workers face competition for jobs. A worker would choose to work in a safe workplace, all things else being equal. Farmers were maiming themselves with their own machinery in their own fields at the same time, but no government rescue there. Why? Because maybe a factory fire makes a good story. You need a bad guy for conflict and drama. To argue that workplace safety is a constant tension between higher productivity and safety until new practices and technology ratchet the standards higher is kind of boring.

Yes, hungry girls will work unsafe, degrading jobs because need trumps everything else.  What point are you trying to make?  That we should return to the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory days?  Sweatshops?  Child labor?  
Or are you asking for greater regulation of farm equipment safety?

Self regulation is a standard, set by producers, maybe in the form of a free association, where each producer can freely choose to follow the standard or not. Self regulation sometimes succeeds in producing good quality products or products that interoperate well, because the customers in the market want it, too, thereby expanding the market.

Self-regulation, in practice, gave us the likes of Triangle Shirtwaist Factories.  When self-regulation failed, governments stepped in.  Stifling productivity/economic growth is in no one's interest. Your government can't tax you on the money you don't make.
More recent (and lulzy) example of Bitcoin businesses practicing self-regulation:


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=521520.msg9451926#msg9451926

*Not even mentioning all the Bitcoin "businesses" self-regulating on Havelock, CryptoStocks and other self-regulated "securities exchanges"--that's a whole other bundle of lel.
4152  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 06, 2014, 04:39:29 PM
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On the contrary, Good Professor. It's Statist who conflate "regulated" with "state-regulated". Regulation is too important to be left to governments. It's in the economic best interest of industries to self-regulate when they are not tempted to externalize costs with the help of the State.

And the difference between "no regulation" and "self-regulation" is?

Underwriter Laboratories is a good example. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UL_%28safety_organization%29 Industries are incentivized to adopt standard best practices.

I asked for the difference between self-regulation and no regulation.
You gave me a link to this:
"UL is one of several companies approved to perform safety testing by the US federal agency Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA)."
I'd like an answer, not a non-sequitur.


In your factory fire example, you need to understand that employers face competition for labor the same way workers face competition for jobs. A worker would choose to work in a safe workplace, all things else being equal. Farmers were maiming themselves with their own machinery in their own fields at the same time, but no government rescue there. Why? Because maybe a factory fire makes a good story. You need a bad guy for conflict and drama. To argue that workplace safety is a constant tension between higher productivity and safety until new practices and technology ratchet the standards higher is kind of boring.

Yes, hungry girls will work unsafe, degrading jobs because need trumps everything else.  What point are you trying to make?  That we should return to the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory days?  Sweatshops?  Child labor?  
Or are you asking for greater regulation of farm equipment safety?
4153  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 06, 2014, 04:25:53 PM
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What we have now, is that the decision to save, to invest, or to consume is taken away from the citizens, because the masters think that they can decide better (And the sheep does not see what is happening).

Re: 6 new railways in China, Ghost cities, Olympic stadiums, bridges to nowhere.

4154  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 06, 2014, 04:07:54 PM
Which one of you dumped 100 coins at 448?
..

Not 100.  Will I regret it?
4155  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 06, 2014, 03:57:47 PM
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On the contrary, Good Professor. It's Statist who conflate "regulated" with "state-regulated". Regulation is too important to be left to governments. It's in the economic best interest of industries to self-regulate when they are not tempted to externalize costs with the help of the State.

And the difference between "no regulation" and "self-regulation" is?

Underwriter Laboratories is a good example. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UL_%28safety_organization%29 Industries are incentivized to adopt standard best practices.

I asked for the difference between self-regulation and no regulation.
You gave me a link to this:
"UL is one of several companies approved to perform safety testing by the US federal agency Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA)."
I'd like an answer, not a non-sequitur.

Edit:  While we're on the subject of safety, here's a nice example of self-regulation, and why governments had to intervene:

4156  Economy / Speculation / Re: rpietila Wall Observer - the Quality TA Thread ;) on: November 06, 2014, 03:52:37 PM
^A Swedish hobby outfit called Kncminer AB.
4157  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 06, 2014, 03:48:55 PM
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On the contrary, Good Professor. It's Statist who conflate "regulated" with "state-regulated". Regulation is too important to be left to governments. It's in the economic best interest of industries to self-regulate when they are not tempted to externalize costs with the help of the State.

And the difference between "no regulation" and "self-regulation" is?
4158  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 06, 2014, 03:24:59 PM
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I don't get it, there are literally hundreds of examples for monopolies in free markets.

No there aren't. Dig under the surface and you can find government intervention everywhere...

But dig a bit further down, and...  Nah.  Keep hatin' on your gubermints, earthlings.



  ~Your Beneficent Reptilian Overlords.
4159  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Find Trendon Shavers in person thread... [BTCST, BTS&T, pirateat40] on: November 06, 2014, 02:14:57 PM
It sounds like not a single cent will be paid back to those who got screwed.

Most probably i think. Though i think a bitcoin scammer in jail is good news anyway for the community. At the moment bitcoin world is a scammer paradise. This should change. And trendon would be a good sign for that.

Still waiting for Jon to send you your coins, buddy?

4160  Economy / Speculation / Re: rpietila Wall Observer - the Quality TA Thread ;) on: November 06, 2014, 02:11:56 PM
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Woah! That's completely fcked up man. If mining isn't that profitable anymore and this here happens to you? Just, damn.

Funkiest electrical fire I've ever seen.  Those Spondoolies boxen must be stuffed with accelerants...

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