 The election would be a landslide if it happened today. Theres still a lot that can happen in 4 months as people learn what Biden really is. @coins4commies yea if elections were held now then Democrats would definitely win by a huge margin, but as you have rightly said that anything can happen in the next 4 months, so let’s wait and watch if Trump can win back his lost supporters. Also I had raised this point in a different thread that Trump needs to back down, and put Biden in the spot light only then will Biden start to make mistakes, which Trump and his team can capitalise on in the run up to the elections. Source: https://www.economist.com/united-states/2020/06/11/meet-our-us-2020-election-forecasting-model |
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Quite surprising how much sudden adoption we've been getting in just the past month alone. - The PayPal rumours
- Venezuelan bitcoin payments on passports
- Grayscale racking up on bitcoin like there's no tomorrow
And now this. Quite interesting what caused the really sudden domino effect. Also knowing that these entities aren't just your small local convenience stores. These entities are quite significant. As for the Paypal rumors, they're currently hiring cryptocurrency and blockchain engineers which may be a signal for this payment processor to finally jump in. A couple of years ago, Paypal CEO did say that Bitcoin is the biggest scam in history due to pump and dump. Now he threw off his hat and decided not to be left behind, and they realized it very much because more and more people are now shifting to Bitcoin. Even myself, I set aside Paypal for Bitcoin almost three years ago as my main gateway for receiving payments in doing freelance stuff. I seldom use Paypal only to buy plane tickets and other few clients who doesn't have a Bitcoin wallet or balance to pay me yet.
Keyword: may be
While there's definitely a chance that this might be that they're hiring engineers for their bitcoin buy/sell feature, but then again, I'll believe it when I see it. There's also a chance that they could just be experimenting for now. Product features can easily be scrapped.
@mk4 PayPal is not going to launch support for bitcoins as of now, because they’re more interested in utilising Blockchain technology, and they may soon launch a PayPal backed crypto (basically another stable coin). @cheezcarls if you read PayPal CEO statements carefully then you’ll realise that he has no intention of integrating bitcoins on PayPal, but he’s keen to use the blockchain technology, and that’s something worth waiting for if it can help in reducing the transfer fees. Source: https://news.bitcoin.com/paypal-ceo-admits-he-owns-bitcoin-2/ |
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^That is the problem, everyone keeps saying "well we know they are late but let's see what they end up doing after this much delay" and that is the point, the delay itself is quite good enough reason to make a scene about it and have huge complains, they got money and then they didn't use it or they just didn't use it quick enough. You do not wait years to make something new, you do something new every 6 months, at the very latest a year.
When you wait years and only thing you do is getting third party provider games into the casino which is probably a month's work at best with a good developer (probably quicker) there is really nothing they have done at all. This is a good reason to rage at them, you do not have to wait and see what they will eventually do, even if it is good or bad, you can still complain about the late arrival.
Its better to be late than never, right? For sure they do have their reasons on such delay but at least they are still assuring that there would be big changes in the site which is already considered as a good one.I do understand you point that it shouldnt really be taking up for years since everything can be done in a short span of time but we should think that each owners do have their own ways on how to run up their business. Delays are there so all we do need is to wait up if they would stick into their promise or not. @wozzek23 it’s wrong to say that no work has been done as @BoXXoB had given an insight about the work that was done, however it’ll take some more time before we all can see it. Furthermore those people are excited to try the updated site as gambling experience will be different once all the updates are done, and lastly they’re also excited for the competitions that will be announced once the team is ready to launch the updated site.
I believe the biggest issue is that there's not been updates on the site. I've tried to explain that it's being worked currently and the new release is getting pretty close although there's still work to do.
This speculation is just that... speculation and I doubt it's going to change until there's a new release. Of course this is my personal opinion so feel free to disagree. As I've mentioned in multiple occasions, nobody is hiding the fact that there's been delays. I find it pretty silly to call the site a scam while things are being worked on. Right now it feels more like pressuring the site to rush out a release just for the sake of it.
I have personally seen what kind of progress has been made (for example how the new design is going to look like) but if people don't believe that, I'm unsure what else to say. The upcoming quarterly report should contain information and possibly concrete evidence of what has been done.
To answer the questions in a few previous posts - there are various contests planned to be held before the launch of the fully revamped BitDice website (and, of course, after the launch too).
The aforementioned contests will indeed include more wager competitions.
Speaking about contests, what other types of events you would like us to run in support of the launch of BitDice 5.0? Please feel free to share your thoughts in this thread.
Source: https://medium.com/@BitDice/bitdice-casino-quarterly-report-q4-2019-1464449bc3cf |
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I agree that Djokovic, Ivanisevic, Cilic and others had great idea behind the Adria tour, they wanted to help others but they didn’t understand how serious is situation with coronavirus and didn't protect players and fans enough.
Now, after everything what happened in the Adria tournament who knows what will happen with other tennis tournaments and tennis season this year.
It was a total disaster and no one was tested and social distancing was out of the equation and the videos have surfaced that everyone was having a good time partying neglecting the fact that the virus is still rampant if you are careful and now everyone is blaming Djokovic. With the incident we need to ensure a standard protocol to test everyone participating in the event if not these mishaps will repeat. We have some good start in sports after nearly 100 days break and soccer is going on successfully but sadly in tennis we have some serious trouble as many players tested positive because they was not serious about this all they must have to be models for others but they not adopted all rules and now feeling some serious problems hopefully they all will recover and we will able to have them in tennis court in near future. The worst thing is the fact that the tennis players have met hundreds of people and that they are all now in fear of being infected, including a lot of children. Should it be mentioned how this event will resonate in the foreign media and how it will affect the local tourist season? Worst of all, some of the tennis players still do not accept their responsibility for what happened, so I hear that Bulgarian tennis player Dimitrov claims that none of the organizers asked him to be tested for coronavirus and the organizers say that he refused testing as many as three times. Both Dimitrov and Djokovic don't really take responsibility, they have both made huge mistakes. I wouldn't be surprised if some sponsors of Dimitrov/Djokovic drop out because of this events. I think you can really organize tournaments in a safe way; doing better than the Adria tour is not really difficult  @babygun there’s been an interesting development as Djokovic Sr has blamed Dimitrov for bringing the virus to the tournament, and on the other hand Dimitrov agent has refuted this claim. It’s also worth mentioning that many people are now asking Djokovic to resign as the president of the ATP player council, however I don’t think that he’ll resign anytime soon, but what do you’ll think should he actually resign or no?. Source: https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/jun/24/novak-djokovic-left-isolated-as-adria-tennis-tour-acrimony-rumbles-on |
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Damn Ramos he's refusing to stop scoring. I guess the only consolation I can take from this match is that they got a lot of yellows too. It's REALLY going to be tight I think this one. But at least we're in for a nervous finish, what a strange but exciting season it's been for us all:)
It is a fabulous strike from Ramos and it is the first goal from free kick after years for Real Madrid. The third freekick goal for Ramos in his career too. I watched the freekick over and over, and I can feel how G. Bale felt about the goal. He would imagine he lost his order to do freekick for Real Madrid to Ramos. I've never imagined Ramos can score such a freekick goal. Goodbye Bale  @slaman29 Ramos has been absolutely brilliant since the restart, and I’m hoping that under his leadership Real Madrid can win the La Liga title. @hd49728 Gareth Bale is not leaving Real Madrid as he’s decided that he’ll play till the end of his contract, and unfortunately for RM that contract runs till 2022. Sources: https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/10879753/gareth-bale-real-madrid-contract-unlikely-tottenham-return/https://www.skysports.com/football/r-madrid-vs-mallorca/415938 |
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Roubini, the economist that we all love Some people might take you seriously on that, so a bit of clarification: https://www.banking.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Roubini%20Testimony%2010-11-18.pdfCrypto is the Mother of All Scams and (Now Busted) Bubbles While Blockchain Is The Most Over-Hyped Technology Ever, No Better than a Spreadsheet/Database
Nouriel Roubini
Stern School of Business New York University October 2018
Anyhow, Roubini has been wrong so many times since 2007 that has passed beyond the broken clock scenario unless seconds are ears and we must wait for another 36 millennia to hit a prediction right. Seeing all the doomsday lovers screaming the end of the world is coming makes me more optimistic. @stompix you’re absolutely correct because for few minutes I was wondering if this is some new guy we’re talking about, or it’s the old one who’s opinion these days don’t really matter. If you make a career out of one point of view you eventually make yourself totally irrelevant as you can't give it up and acknowledge what's actually happening.
Even if you're eventually proven right, if you spent all that time repeatedly calling for something that won't arrive for another few years that doesn't make you look like a genius, it makes you look lazy. Almost everyone's proven right eventually if they pound the same points over and over.
Same goes for Zerohedge, the site that predicted 200 of the last 2 recessions.
@gentlemand doesn’t this remind you of a very wise investor who’s yet refusing to accept bitcoins, clue his last name is Buffet, and both of them have one thing in common it’s their rigid approach which is blocking their view to see a different picture. Source: https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/04/warren-buffett-says-bitcoin-is-a-gambling-device-with-a-lot-of-frauds-connected-with-it.html |
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Is China going to dominate the world?
China is the second largest economy in the world. The cold war between China and USA and the tension between India and China on the line of actual control. China is challenging USA in every filed. What do you think is China going to dominate the world or USA will be the super power.
China is already dominating the world. It is not the second largest economy but the first strongest one. They have also the biggest population in the world and the biggest workforce in the planet with makes them an economic super power. @sum99 the answer to your question lies in the speech given by China’s President Xi Jinping in 2017, where he laid down the plans for China to dominate the global economy and the world by 2049. Also I know many will discount the possibility of this happening, but the reality is China has already laid a roadmap for it, and if all the countries don’t united against China then their domination plan will succeed, and it’ll be too late to stop them.
Xi declared that China “has stood up, grown rich, and is becoming strong,” and that it was now “blazing a new trail for other developing countries” and offering “Chinese wisdom and a Chinese approach to solving the problems facing mankind.” By 2049, Xi promised, China would “become a global leader in terms of composite national strength and international influence” and would build a “stable international order” in which China’s “national rejuvenation” could be fully achieved.
Sources: https://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion/2020/05/22/commentary/world-commentary/china-really-want-dominate-world/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_China_Rules_the_Worldhttps://fortune.com/2020/05/15/china-coronavirus-world-dominate/ |
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There has been a lot of uncertainty regarding whether the T20 World Cup 2020 will go ahead as planned, or it may be postponed. We may get a definite answer today. Indications are that the ICC is also in favor of postponing the tournament, after Cricket Australia officials said that staging the tournament this year is "unrealistic". Once the confirmation comes from the ICC, we can expect the BCCI to make their push for a mini-IPL this season.
@Vishnu.Reang I feel that ICC is not in favour of postponing the World Cup, and the news that the World Cup will be postponed has been spread by the IPL organisers who want to pressurise ICC into postponing the World Cup. Further I’m aware that the CA chairman too has casted doubts about the World Cup, but now Australia’s PM has decided to allow crowds back in the stadium which means that T20 World Cup will definitely go ahead if ICC pushes for it.
This piece of news will bring in some smiles to the faces of International Cricket Council (ICC), Cricket Australia (CA) and those cricket fans who are eagerly waiting for the ICC T20 World Cup down under in October-Nov this year. With COVID-19 relatively under control in Western Australia (WA), the state government has announced plans to allow full-capacity crowds from July 18, meaning up to 60,000 fans could attend games at Perth’s Optus Stadium while other part of the country also gradually opening up.
But at the same time, this news will disappoint the Indian Premier League (IPL 2020) fans who are hoping for the T20 World Cup window to be utilized by IPL 2020 this year.
Source: https://www.insidesport.co/big-positive-for-icc-t20-world-cup-perths-optus-stadium-to-allow-full-house-crowd/ |
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The Jackpot race is running now, and its nice to see how the jackpot is growing each minute. For a moment i was thinking the plinko users has an advantage against dice users, but I was wrong, the dice users are getting nice places on the board.
So, is just the first day, let's see how hot get's this promo.
@seoincorporation in my personal opinion dice numbers will always be more than Plinko numbers, hence it’ll be really interesting to see if Plinko numbers can manage to beat dice numbers at the end of the competition. Congratulations to kolloh   *note:kolloh hit 2 x9824 under 1 minute* Congratulations to Hiall and his 9999 hit!  Here's the weekly leaderboard too.   Jackpot is 66.84 m₿ as of now and will grow for the whole week at .25% of the wagered of the users. I’m starting to loose the count of users that have hit 999, 9999 out here, because so many LB users have hit it in the past few months, but @kolloh bets does stands out as he got very lucky to hit 2 *9824 that too under a minute. |
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This article is making it appear that Ethereum is better and more utilized than bitcoin for real utility while making it appear that bitcoin's activity is done only for speculation. However, what the writer of the article did not mention is the leading smart contract in Ethereum that gives it utility is a ponzi scheme hehehehe.  As Ethereum prepares to celebrate the five-year anniversary of its mainnet launch on July 31, billions of dollars in value rest on that question. Specifically, on whether the all-important Ethereum 2.0 scaling project can be successfully launched and integrated into its existing architecture.
By most measures, the Ethereum ecosystem is undergoing an impressive growth spurt. Record-breaking “gas” usage for smart contract and payment executions has now put Ethereum’s daily transaction fees totals above those of bitcoin. A strong rally in the price of ether (ETH) means Ethereum’s native token is among just a few leading cryptocurrencies, including bitcoin, Cardano’s ADA and Stellar’s XLM, to have more or less shaken off the sharp crypto selloff seen in March. And the amount of second-tier value locked into Ethereum smart contracts is ballooning, with total daily value transfers on Ethereum reaching that of Bitcoin in April.
According to analysis by Glassnode, the majority of ether transactions are now used to pay for a variety of smart contact commands rather than simple monetary exchanges between so-called externally owned accounts. That, along with a reduction in large-scale “whale” ether accounts, suggests transactions on Ethereum are now more connected to utility than to speculative activity.Read in full https://www.coindesk.com/money-reimagined-ethereums-renaissance-creates-an-opportunity-major-testSource https://insights.glassnode.com/ethereum-fees/@bbc.reporter Ethereum is a good coin to hodl, and I do prefer having it in my portfolio but only in small quantities as I’m yet not betting big on Ethereum. Also the writer is wrong to say that Bitcoin is used only for speculative activities, as many people use bitcoins to pay their taxes, and buy various goods and services available online. Sources: https://cointelegraph.com/news/japan-recognise-bitcoin-payments-legalhttps://www.thestreet.com/investing/what-can-you-buy-with-bitcoin-14556706 |
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This site is getting more and more annoying.
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ALSO, live chat is not working for me. I click on it, nothing happens. Sent an email 1 week ago, no reply.
I came to this site after I quit nitro but that was obviously a waste of time.
You might have broken one of the Chat rules and you got banned from the chat, see this : https://forum.stake.com/topic/981-chat-rules/ for the chat rules.  I presume that you know about the $100 wager requirement to enable you to join the chat, because you have had it previously. I had to ask, because this is a question asked by a lot of people.. even the older gamblers of the site that was there when it was still $1. Also try login into https://forum.stake.com/ and ask your question there.  I do not think he is referring to the chatroom, but he is referring to the live chat to support. In case he is banned on chatroom, he will be still able to open the chatbox but he wont be able to chat. @scammed-by-nitro, are you VIP member already? If you are a VIP member, you should have your own VIP manager. VIP manager can help you for any issues imho. At least VIP manager has direct communication with the admin or owner of the site so he/she can follow up your issue. @Bitnity you’re correct as he’s referring to their chat support, and it’s weird that he claims he didn’t get a reply, because whenever I have asked their support for help they have replied to me within minutes. Further I feel that he have spoken rudely with them, and that’s why they may have not replied instantly to him, hence I would suggest him to speak nicely with them, and provide his bet I’d like DusanD has suggested as that’ll help support fix the issue. Guys there is no reason for such a fuss, if you want something graded just contact support and ask for a Sportsbook Manager, we will help you as soon as possible  It happens that some markets don't get graded instantly but we are here to help. We are just a click away, just contact us with your bet ID and everything will be just fine |
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I had parlay with big amount and in my bookie I can cash out before game start, the provider of the site made mistake and admitt of that, he put me loss bet instead of void the main problem that they can't change it only manually and support tell me only if I win the rest I will get paid, but now I can't cash out In the end my last game was lost and I know my self I probably do cash out if I could beacose it's big money, I be happy to hear your opinion on that, I will not mention the site yet beacose it's fair site and the owner it's good man so for now I just want your opinion,
the answer to your question lies in the terms and conditions page of your sportsbook provider, and you’ll have to dig deep to find out if you have any remedy against their decision. While I do understand your frustration but in my personal opinion you’ll soon find out that their terms will state that they’re correct, and there’s nothing you can do about this bet except to move on and forget about this bet. Source: https://www.bestbettingsites.org.uk/faq/what-is-a-void-bet/Care to show us the conversation? Your statement is kinda confusing. But for the benefit of the doubt, I would say you can file a complaint and use the word of the support about them making a mistake of putting you lost bet instead of void, and let us see what will happen next. the provider of the site made mistake and admitt of that, he put me loss bet instead of void @Naamandror in a different thread I had posted this as the solution, and in your case too I feel that it’ll work hence you’ll have to read the terms and conditions of the casino. Furthermore @serjent05 is right hence please post the conversation screenshots below, as it’ll help people in suggesting you a more accurate solution for your problems. |
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Akon is probably trying to become a Godfather in real life where he will control the money supply and the trades. I am really suspicious about his intentions behind all these. No one would do such kind of things (Building a city) for the sake of promoting a cryptocurrency. He must be having some deep reasons behind it. Now building a city can be done with his enormous wealth, but how he plans to bring employment for his city's residents?
Probably he wanted to be the first in the race, and as far I can remember, it was last year when we hear about his ambition, so probably it is already taking into fruition in the next coming years. And again, he could be right and a 'true visionary" it this become successful and his name etch in history. Yes, I'm sure money is the reason for all of this, maybe he thinks he can help and generate income for his passively. Win-win situation. A sustainable city needs more than - "roads, a Hamptons Hospital campus, a Hamptons Mall, residences, hotels, a police station, a school, a waste facility and a solar power plant."
I'm thinking he good get investors out there to ride with his plan and then build a sustainable city. Again, still boils down as much money he needed and how much he can generate. If it is not enough, then he could reach out not just to crypto investors but his inner circles of friends in the industry. I read this news first here and then decided to check on google for more information, and according to this article (link below) this all started because Akon could not exchange some Senegal’s currency to euros, and suddenly decided to make a coin which would be globally accepted. In my personal opinion this logic of his is flawed as many governments have banned bitcoins so why will they suddenly allow his coin, and secondly there’s not much clarity on what % of coins will Akon hodl which makes me suspicious of his intentions anyone else noticed this?. Sources: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-06-20/singer-akon-is-launching-a-cryptocurrency-building-senegal-cityhttps://www.escapeartist.com/blog/countries-banned-bitcoin/ |
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A gambling addict who was a manager at AMP, confessed to the police that he stole over $6 million of client funds to continue his gambling addiction which only became worse in the long run. It’s worth mentioning that he himself surrendered to the police, and even provided proofs of the amounts that he had stolen to stop his gambling addiction, and therefore the judge sentenced him to a lighter sentence than what he would have normally received had he been directly caught. What’s more interesting is this guy kept a spreadsheet of the money he was stealing, and he even managed to refund up to $1 million to some clients and rest were reimbursed by AMP. Lastly what really touched my heart is that the casino where he lost lots of money offered him counselling services, but he turned it down and the casino then decided to close his account to make sure he would not gamble again. Moral: Gambling addiction is real and harsh but stealing money to fund it is not right, please ask for help and don’t steal like he did. Source: https://www.pressreader.com/australia/herald-sun/20200622/281852940826600 |
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I would say betting on Trump right now could be the smart money. Now I am not saying Trump will win, and I really really really hope he loses, I rather see an empty bucket be the president than Trump. However, let's remember 4 years ago when initially he had 1% chance to be Republican nominee, from there to presidency he won everything.
So, I do not trust any polls when it is about Trump, if it was someone else, if it was some senate race, if it was something related to congress I would trust polls and what they say about the republican versus democrat candidates, I would even trust polls if it is about the presidential election but between another republican versus any democrat. However this dude beat the whole odds and became president, so I can't really ever be sure about him losing no matter how much the gap grows.
@coinfinger that’s a smart move as I too feel that Trump will win, once he realises that he needs to stop coming out in the media and shift the limelight on Biden. It’s pertinent to note that Biden has done nothing spectacular to take the lead, and he’s locked himself away and he’s only earning this lead because of Trumps errors. However once Biden is forced to come out on the stage he’ll loose the lead, by making mistakes especially like the one where he said black people are not black if they vote for Trump. Sources: https://www.forbes.com/sites/zackjones/2020/06/21/trump-rally-sees-joe-bidens-presidental-odds-improve-presidential-election-betting-update/#15cbaa687da8https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/05/28/heres-why-black-americans-were-mad-bidens-comment-even-if-theyd-say-same-thing-themselves/ |
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I really like the game of Dortmund when against Leipzig, very offensive and tactical. Therefore Dortmund can win 2-0, that is a fitting
result for Dortmund. And Erling Haaland showed his best performance by scoring 2 goals, hopefully in the next match Dortmund can
continue playing like this.
Leipzig did a good start to the season but started struggling. It's hard to believe when they were so close to Bayern and messed it up so much after then that they are now about to finish as 3rd on the table.
Leipzig is a big surprise in Bundesliga this season. It is good for the club to expand a contract with his talented and young coach. It is a good way to build up a strong and stable team with the same coach who help them to have a big successful season. The challenge is how Leipzig will be able to prevent player leaving the club in the coming transfer season. Many clubs like Leipzig have only one successful season, and after that they lost good players and falling in league table position. Dortmund are playing quite well after Haaland came in their team. It will be interesting to see if he is able to give off the same performance as well in next season. Next round is the last round of Bundesliga so it wouldn't make any difference for Dortmund now even if they win or lose. Yeah they can get off with a good feeling of closing the season with a win.
Dortmund and Haaland will be able to fight for the Bundesliga title next season. I don't have any doubt that Haaland will have good performance or even better performance for Dortmund next season. @Shasha80 I’m glad that Dortmund played well and won this game as I had wagered a small bet on them, and I was absolutely delighted when Halland scored those goals, because then I knew I could finally stop worrying about loosing my bet. @hd49728 if Dortmund wishes to win the title next season then they need to hodl on to Sancho, and stop chocking in important matches. Sources: https://www.skysports.com/football/RB-Leipzig-vs-B-Dortmund/413027https://sportmob.com/en/news/809170-dortmund-don-t-choke-but-can-improve-zorchttps://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/11805401/man-utd-news-live-sancho-transfer-richarlison-rashford/ |
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Srilanka team has been morally and physcially down after they have won the last and single worldcup in the history. Since that time, the players are not upto that performance mark and their performance is on the decline just like West Indies team.
I disagree with that. After the winning of 1996 word cup Sri Lanka was a team who dominated the world cricket for the next few years. Yes, from last one decade they could not perform well. Maybe it's because they were not able to produce players like Muralidharan, Chaminda Vaas etc. We can't say SL didn't find good talents, there are two legends called Mahela Jayavardne and Kumar Sangakara who played really well to keep their stats up to the top level but they also got retired now they got talents but have less experience which makes them to be in pressure while handling tough situations that is the place SL cricket board did mistakes...
As per your opinion, how many players are there in the current Sri Lankan squad, who can be termed as legends? Back in 1996, they had quite a few including Muttiah Muralitharan, Sanath Jayasuriya, Aravinda de Silva, Arjuna Ranatunga, Roshan Mahanama and Chaminda Vaas. Even during the first decade of 2000, they had legends in their squad, such as Kumar Sangakkara and Lasith Malinga. But the same can't be said about the current squad.
@Mersal while there’s no doubt about the quality those two added to the Srilankan Cricket team, but I feel the discussion here is relating to the current Srilankan team, which unfortunately doesn’t have top class player’s in their squad. It’s also pertinent to note that Muttiah Muralitharan had acknowledged this fact that the current Srilankan team doesn’t have quality player’s, and he further believed that these days all Srilankan player’s care is about making money, and hence they’re less focused on performing in international cricket matches.
Sri Lankan cricket has hit an all-time nadir and the legendary Muttiah Muralitharan blames it on the paucity of talent coupled with lack of passion among the current generation of cricketers for this steady decline.
Source: https://www.hindustantimes.com/cricket/the-decline-of-sri-lankan-cricket-saddens-me-muttiah-muralitharan/story-67hza0cdl1M5iisef0E7FJ.html |
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unless the "big wave" is passed. 
