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4161  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: June 09, 2021, 03:43:34 PM
Setelah berbagai kabar buruk datang dan berlalu, munculah kabar kabar positif mengenai crypto blokchain. Sepertinya sudah menjadi kebiasaan yang perlu kita cermati untuk restock saat harga murah.  Saya nemu artikel di web SCM south china morning post.

Tapi pada akhirnya mereka kembali mengeluarkan statement untuk menutup mining di Xinjiang. Berdasarkan artikel yang saya baca, miner di Xinjiang cukup banyak dan saat ini energi disana menggunakan batu bara. Alasannya sama seperti Elon Musk, mining bitcoin bikin boros energi. Cuma sepertinya market tidak begitu berpengaruh sejauh ini, mungkin saat ini sudah terlalu sering China memberikan FUD, jadi sudah dianggap basi oleh trader.

Info: https://cryptobriefing.com/china-orders-bitcoin-mining-shutdown-xinjiang/
4162  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ FIFA World Cup 2022: Qualifying Games For Qatar on: June 08, 2021, 11:05:39 PM
A team like Indonesia will not be able to qualify for the World Cup even if it gets a chance to participate in the World Cup. I watched a few matches of the Indonesian national team. Very bad performance. Passing and receiving, nothing can do perfectly. They are not a team to participate in the World Cup. They need to improve themselves and practice more.

Too much drama, the Indonesian Football Association (PSSI), often makes the wrong decisions when it comes to firing coaches. Fans saw potential for Indonesia under coach Alfred Riedl, then when coached by Luis Milla, but PSSI fired both of them because they failed to give trophies. even though in terms of the game it was quite good, maybe it just took time for them to give the trophy in ASEAN, and maybe it could be better in the World Cup. but it can't be helped, the drama in the Association still continues to this day, including the league's quality more bad.
4163  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2020/2021 on: June 08, 2021, 10:53:15 PM
So I don't think Manchester City will benefit much from Grealish's high price at the moment.
Apart from having other players with the same position, with 100 million, i agree,  I don't think this will be an option for City. apart from the City rumors, I read in several media that Manchester United are also considering this player, even MU legend, Ferdinand said that Grealish might play an important role for MU to win the EPL again. Some players also expect MU can bring Grealish.
4164  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ FIFA World Cup 2022: Qualifying Games For Qatar on: June 08, 2021, 01:33:23 PM
It's really sad to see Indonesia's performance in the World Cup 2022 qualifiers. At a time, when Southeast Asian teams are starting to show progress, such as Vietnam, Thailand and Singapore, it seems that Indonesia is increasingly not finding a good pattern of play more bad year by year. Indonesia, again suffered defeat, and this time with a score 4 - 0 against Vietnam. Only getting 1 point from 7 games, sad.
4165  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2020/2021 on: June 08, 2021, 01:19:17 PM
Manchester City is a rich enough club. - snip -

Indeed City can give their coach a lot of money for transfer window, but they need to remember about financial fair play. they almost got punished before. I think they will be more careful in making transfer decisions at this time. So, if Aston Villa asks a club that wants Grealish, with a fantastic transfer value, I agree if Grealish will not become their main target on this transfer season.
4166  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: June 08, 2021, 01:07:44 PM
Donnarumma relied very much on his famous agent in the negotiations. On the other hand, the man is already 22 years old, he is the main goalkeeper of the national team and he probably already has the right to continue his playing career. On the other hand, information has now leaked that Donnarumma can become a Paris Saint-Germain player with a salary of 12 million euros and the contract will last until 2026. If this information is correct and finds a real embodiment in life, then it can reduce the degree of hatred of Milan fans for Donnaruma, because then the goalkeeper will be in another national championship Wink

If he moved to PSG for a higher salary, of course it would make more sense to me personally, compared to him joining Juventus for salary with less than what Milan offered. It's true what you said, if he played outside Italy, maybe the Milan fans wouldn't hate him so much. I remember what happens with Kaka, he move to madrid but still on Milan fans heart.
4167  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: You need to read this if you are still new to crypto space on: June 08, 2021, 06:46:53 AM
I mostly noticed that people are asking about cloud mining if they can earn around 2018 and 2019 which that year is I wanted to try mining cloud. So far, I never earn crypto from it and I never deposited since I always bale to read somewhere in this forum that most cloud mining is a ponzi scheme.

I remember about hashflare, I made deposits to them $50, when my investments so close to get my initial investment, they are changed minimum WD. so i must do re-invest to get highest chance to get my money someday, but they are closing their services. that my first experience use cloud mining services and never do it again.
4168  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Dogy dan Sejenisnya (Meme), New Trend Setelah Defi? on: June 08, 2021, 12:10:48 AM
Tidak hanya abang yang mengalami hal serupa, ane juga. gak usah jauh-jauh bang, Doge aja beberapa waktu lalu sempat ke harga 10ribu tapi ane telat jual, kalau saat itu ane jual maka bisa beli mobil baru. Tapi ya mau gimana lagi, harga sudah separuh dari ath jadi ane cuma bisa nunggu harga balik lagi atau membentuk ath baru.

Tapi ane sempat juga hype shiba, ikut-ikut latah beberapa hari lalu eh malah sekarang lost. Lumayan buat pengalaman, dibikin senyum walaupun hati kecut.

Untuk doge, saya pikir sudah memiliki pattern yang bisa dianalisa, hal yang sangat berbeda dengan meme yang muncul akhir-akhir ini, hampir tidak ada pattern indikator yang bisa dijadikan acuan. Bahkan beli saat dip pun pada akhirnya semakin dalem, ini yang membuat kita harus berhati-hati dalam memilih early token maupun meme token. Karena, ketika sudah terjebak pada token yang pengembangnya menyerah, dip ini tak akan pernah bisa kembali ke permukaan. Doge masih ada harapan untuk kembali, jika memang pengembangan kembali dilakukan oleh dev dan komunitas doge. Sedangkan token gabah, mau pakai indikator apa pun yang ada sering mleset daripada akuratnya, karena memang likuiditas kecil sangat mudah bagi whales untuk Pump & Dump token.
4169  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 on: June 07, 2021, 05:40:39 PM

Next season for Real Madrid will be a transitional period. And perhaps this period will last another one or two years. Many positions need new players. But the situation is such that Real Madrid is hardly worth buying. This summer, several players may leave and Mbappe will be bought. For others, Real Madrid won't have enough money.

If I'm not mistaken, PSG have decided not to sell Mbappe, meaning that Madrid no longer has to pay a lot for the transfer of this 1 person. moreover, at a time when the club's financial condition is unstable due to this pandemic. Madrid should be able to ensure the signing of players effectively
4170  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Dogy dan Sejenisnya (Meme), New Trend Setelah Defi? on: June 07, 2021, 06:29:21 AM
cerita-cerita seperti inilah yang menarik minat newbie entry, modal 1 juta untung 90 juta. Padahal proses untuk ke situ itu pasti membutuhkan proses yang panjang tidak semerta-merta uang tersbut jadi x90 begitu saja.

Saya pernah mengalami yang serupa, tapi bukan token meme sih, pernah sampai profit $2k, tidak saya TP karena saya merasa prospek proyek ini cukup potensial. Karena memang tujuan saya adalah untuk hold jangka panjang token ini, jadi sampai sekarang masih hold tuh token akhirnya turun 90%. mungkin ada rasa menyesal, tapi ini memang sudah jadi bagian dari plan, jadi ya diikuti saja walau berat nerima kenyataan wkkk. ibarat belajar melewati suka dukanya holder aja sih  Roll Eyes #curcol

Cuma, kalau alasan ga TP karena ingin lebih tinggi, padahal profitnya sudah banyak banget saya rasa sayang juga sih ya. Kalau saya sih ada 3 token yang emang sengaja saya jadikan bahan percobaan untuk hold, ada yang nilainya cukup besar (bagi saya), ada medium dan ada yang rendah, ini semua dari token early.

Risikonya emang besar ngehold token early jika kita masuk dengan jumlah besar, karena jika kita salah ambil keputusan ya potensinya rug sebelum target hold kita tercapai. Apalagi untuk token yang mudah digoreng seperti koin gabah (aka Micin), jangan sampai keputusan ga TP dan hold menjadi penyesalan. Anda harus benar-benar melakukan riset serius untuk memastikan proyek early tersebut legit atau tidaknya.
4171  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: HARUSKAH SAYA MENYESAL on: June 07, 2021, 04:07:09 AM
Kenapa tidak mencoba ke SigCamp BTC om kan lebih realible and short time paid? mungkin history post harus sedikit diperbaiki, atau coba ngepost aja di Mining(Altcoins) selama 3 bulan karena sepengalaman sy, history post di technical biasanya mudah ikut Sigcamp BTC. apalagi om 'HERO' rank kan lumayan kalau di Rp dari hasil SigCamp.


Sepertinya mas @dansus kurang PD mas untuk nyoba apply di sigcam BTC. karena saya lihat pada akunnya ada RT dari salah satu member, karena mas dansus ingin meminjam uang pada salah satu member. Padahal, kalau itu tidak terbukti hacked account ia masih bisa melakukan banding sih seharusnya. tapi kalau emang bener dari hasil hacked atau sebenarnya bukan hacked, tapi dari hasil jual beli akun, emang sulit ini untuk bisa selesai. Cuma dari referensi kasus sudah selesai, seharusnya sih bisa. dicoba aja mas dansus. kali aja ada yang tidak membutuhkan merit sebagai sarat daftar.
4172  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: You need to read this if you are still new to crypto space on: June 07, 2021, 01:27:20 AM
A lot of people were actually hooked to cloud mining before but now, everybody figured out that most of it are scams.
-snip-

No at all, I still very often find people asking about cloud mining. In fact, many of them are ready to pay for cloud mining services. I've tried to explain to them, some don't believe it and provide screenshots of the withdrawals they get. however, we can only remind them, if indeed they insist they want to continue, we just let them do what they wants.
4173  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: June 07, 2021, 01:21:20 AM
Donnarumma seems to have made the wrong decision at the moment. Because the future is now no longer clear. Juventus has not been able to confirm he can enter the squad for financial reasons. Even though he was brought in by Juventus, the salary is cheaper than Milan. As I expected, not just AC Milan fans were very disappointed with Donnarumma, there also Milan legend.
4174  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BEP20][SMC] Safemoon Cash | Rug-proof~Ownership renounced~Community Driven on: June 04, 2021, 11:01:20 AM
I didn't knew about this project before. Is Safemoon Cash anyway linked with the project named "Safemoon" ?

As far as I know between safemoon and safemoon cash are two different projects that have no relationship whatsoever. It's just that the emergence of safemoon and safemoon cash release is very close. After the Safemoon boom, there are many safemoon name related that have sprung up, starting from safemoon classic, safemoon 2 and other safemoon name. the only thing that lasts so far what I've ever bought is Safemoon Cash only. the rest are all rugs or there are no more buyers,
4175  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: June 04, 2021, 10:40:06 AM
This decision by inter management is too harsh, I don't think any manager can  succeed and perform with such decision, after selling their quality players and taking pay cut inter will be left with mediocre and average players thus wouldn't be able to to defend their title and compete favorable with other Seria A clubs, of course other clubs took measures too to address the impact of pandemic on their club but definitely not a harsh one that will hinder their progress, Inzaghi has a big task ahead him if inter stick to that decision and reversed.

Simone Inzaghi still has not been able to prove that he is capable of handling a big club yet. However, Inter seems to have gambled by letting Conte leave the Giuseppe Meazza. Maybe, Inter managed to finish in 2nd position is good enough next season under S. Inzaghi. As for Allegri return to Juve, I don't expect much from other teams, including AC Milan to become a champions anymore.


Pirlo now linked with Sassuolo, Udinese and Lazio. I think Lazio will become next stop for Pirlo, since they are need coach after Inzaghi move.
4176  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Are you still on NFT's? on: June 04, 2021, 10:15:42 AM
Everything is fine with large projects, but no one needs ordinary pictures on the blockchain.
In the long term, these tokens will be used in game projects, and whoever bought useless pictures on the HYIP, they will lose money.

This is what NFT collectors should pay attention to. It's not about who makes and what capabilities the NFT have. For images that have high artistic value, of course collectors can resell them at a higher price with the NFT hold. Or for farming NFT, if it's rare NFT for serious and potential projects, holding NFT will also potential giving more value. But if it's only because of the hype due to shillings, then the value of the NFT will eventually go down and maybe it will lose more than holding tokens/coins.
4177  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BEP20][SMC] Safemoon Cash | Rug-proof~Ownership renounced~Community Driven on: June 04, 2021, 01:09:20 AM
This is very surprising, I thought while buying safemooncash a few weeks ago, it would not be serious. However, seeing them using my manager services, Hhampuz, I thought of doing a buyback while the price was still quite far from ATH. So I thought, it looks like this project is not just a meme token as I thought before. what the hell, this project LOL
4178  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Are you still on NFT's? on: June 04, 2021, 12:35:20 AM
I don't think NFT is dead, indeed the hype is dropping. However, NFT has good potential for creators and developers. Because, for an NFT image for example, it will have intellectual rights that no one can change it, we know, when we upload the NFT to the blockchain, we will have a timestamp, this way creators can dispute easily when there is plagiarism. I think it's much better than metadata which can still be tweaked sometimes. Even though it is currently in decline, I believe NFT is one part of the blockchain that will never die.
4179  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 on: June 04, 2021, 12:17:23 AM

How about Barcelona, ​​do you think Ronaldo and Messi have a chance in one season to be in the same team? It look funny, but it's still very unlikely.

Same as other members opinion, Ronaldo wouldn't join Barcelona if he back to La Liga, the reason is, Messi his competitor, if he join Barcelona, maybe they can't play together.

If it works out, then Ronaldo will be playing in the Ligue 1 for the first time in his Football career.

I think so, maybe, if he moved to League 1 it would be the right choice for him, because there also several football star. Furthermore, only the Eredevisie and the Bundesliga have never been a place for him to play on top tier competition in Europe.
4180  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [OPINI] Ingin Mendapat Keuntungan di Cryptocurrency? Konsep Beragama Jalannya... on: June 03, 2021, 05:06:25 PM
Waduuuuuhhhhh parah kali post kayak gini gan, karena ini bisa memperkeruh suasana gan, seharusnya kalau ente mau menasehati para newbie tidak semestinya membawa sebuah aliran, rasanya cukup ente arahkan mereka ke dalam bitcoin and ente saranin para newbie itu faham dulu mengenai dunia crypto, bukannya kayak gini ente malah bawak suatu aliran gini

Menurut saya, bumping thread ini juga memperkeruh suasana gan. kenapa tidak, thread ini sudah tidak ada yang membahas sejak Februari, dan mas tiba-tiba mengomentari thread ini, hasilnya terjadi bump dan mengangkat topik ke atas. Sehingga ini dapat mengundang diskusi yang berulang tentang kontroversialnya thread yang notabene sudah di bahas oleh @Husna Q A. Jika memang yang ingin dibahas pada sisi "Konsepnya", monggo, tapi jangan fokus pada kata "agama"nya, ini bukan pembelaan untuk OP, yang mana saya juga kurang setuju, tapi bagi saya ia sedang menggunakan kata kiasannamun mungkin saat bikin thread ingat tentang agama daripada tentang keyakinan atau kata lain. Jika Anda lebih fokus pada kata agama, maka thread ini menjadi mengarah pada pembahasan agama yang tidak akan selesai dan justru akan mengundang perdebatan yang lebih panjang.

Untuk @OP, jika memang thread ini masih diperlukan, mungkin sebaiknya mengubah isi konten agar lebih mengarah pada bagaimana agar holder tidak CL dengan mengubah kata-kata yang ada, jadi untuk menghentikan pembahasan dari sisi "agama" yang saya paham mungkin bukan tujuan utama Anda untuk membuat thread ini. Dengan menghilangkan "agama" sapa tahu thread ini menjadi lebih luas pembahasannya. Cuma saran sih, jika memang ingin di lock, saya serahkan semuanya pada Anda.

Untuk member lain, jika thread ini tidak di lock oleh OP atau momod, sebaiknya untuk tidak mempersoalkan agama lagi sebagai topik yang ingin dibahas pada thread ini. Cukup ini pembahasan terakhir yang dihubungkan dengan agama, karena sudah dijelaskan juga oleh OP apa tujuan penggunaan agama pada thread.
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