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4161  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: BIH - Bosna i Hercegovina on: May 20, 2021, 09:54:30 AM
Sta je konkretno "prirez"? I koliko to izadje zajedno sa 10% porezom?

Prirez u Hrvatskoj je, u biti, dodatni porez na dohodak za lokalnu samoupravu. Njegova stopa ovisi o mjestu pebivališta i taj porez ne ide u državni proračun već za financiranje jedinica lokalne samouprave (gradova i općina).

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Prirez porezu na dohodak plaća se na iznos poreza na dohodak i to u slučaju kada radnik ima prebivalište odnosno uobičajeno boravište na području općine ili grada koji su svojom odlukom propisali prirez porezu na dohodak.
https://www.porezna-uprava.hr/Gradani/Stranice/Place%20i%20mirovine/Radnik.aspx

Gradovi i općine mogu imati različite stope prireza i kreću se od 0 do 15% s izuzetkom grada Zagreba koji ima jedinstvenu stopu od 18%.
Dakle, ako na bruto iznos od, na primjer, 1000kn plaćaš 10% poreza na dohodak to je 100kn. Ako živiš u Zagrebu, na tih 100kn poreza ide još 18% prireza (tj. 18kn) pa ti je ukupni odbitak 118kn.
4162  Economy / Services / Re: [OPEN] BestChange Signature Campaign | Sr Member+ on: May 20, 2021, 08:40:02 AM
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4163  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Zašto je KYC iznimno opasan - i beskoristan on: May 18, 2021, 12:55:55 PM
Evo na tu temu bi dodao ovo
pa vi dalje dijelite podatke razno raznim besmislenim aplikacijama

https://cointelegraph.com/news/mobile-crypto-mining-app-possibly-connected-to-personal-data-leak


Pi 'mining' app personal data leak? Hm, zašto me to ne iznenađuje?!
Mislim da je bilo samo pitanje vremena...
4164  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Mjesečna Analiza za Hrvatsku Lokalnu Zajednicu (Bitcointalk Croatian) on: May 18, 2021, 12:45:32 PM
Čemu ove analize svakog mjeseca ko ima koliko postova?

Statistička obrada podataka i analiza je sastavni dio svakog istraživačkog rada. Na studiju psihologije imaš kolegij Uvod u deskriptivnu i inferencijalnu statistiku i već u uvodnom predavanju se kaže: "Bez statističkog mišljenja nema ni znanstvenog mišljenja", a koliko je meni poznato, gotovo svaki studij uključuje i kolegije vezane za statistiku.

"Statistička analiza je prikupljanje i tumačenje podataka kako bi se otkrili obrasci i trendovi."
https://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/statistical-analysis

 Wink
4165  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: "Satoshi set the total supply of bitcoins to 21 Million" is nonsense on: May 18, 2021, 11:29:11 AM
If you're educating people about bitcoin, maybe have a cute little graph on how many bitcoins were mined in the first 4 year period before the first halving and show the math in a visual way and how it will never reach 21 Million.

You're just being sarcastic now.

Maybe the lesson we learned was the pedantry we engaged in along the way.

Yep.
4166  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Velike kompanije su pocele investirati u bitcoin kao sigurnu imovinu on: May 18, 2021, 08:27:02 AM
~snip

Dobrodošli u veseli svijet kriptovaluta.

nekako se ne mogu sloziti sa tim, kad stavis u perspektivu novca, $1-2B (max) sto bi Musk mogao zaraditi sa svim tim manipulacijama, ne znace bas nista na njegov procenjeni "networth", po meni tu postoje dve varijante:
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Gotovo uvijek postoji i treća varijanta...
Nekako mi se čini da Pmalek-ova teza ima više logike nego tvoje dvije (što ne znači da možda nisi u pravu). Ne dolazi čovjek na vrh hranidbeog lanca tako da tweeta jer mu je dosadno.
Inače, ako se ne varam, njegov prvi tweet o Bitcoinu je bio još 2018. godine. Što znači da je imao kontakta sa kriptovalutama barem nešto prije toga. Mislim da bi čovjek poput njega istražio sve što je fizički moguće prije bilo kakve financijske odluke i da je on bio vrlo dobro pripremljen na ovaj zadnji bull run.

A što se tiće 1-2 milijarde koje navodiš, ne znam točno na što se to odnosi. Sve što nam je poznato je da je Tesla uložila 1,5 milijarde i da je od toga unovčila oko 100 milijuna 'da dokaže likvidnost'. Sve ostalo se radi duboko 'ispod radara'.
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4168  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Načini povlačenja, pretvaranja bitcoina u HRK on: May 17, 2021, 09:54:12 PM
Spominjalo se tu nekoliko puta da se moze i preko kartice od Binance ili Crypto.com placat ili dizat na bankomatima, ali nije li kod placanja karticom da se tvoje ime ocitava na POS aparatu( mozda ga ne ispisuje) i da onda moze porezna znati ko je i koliko novaca trosio?

Naravno da može. Svaka transakcija preko POS sustava ili bankomata ide kroz banku. Ako se ne varam, banke su dužne dostavljati promete po svim računima državi (do prije par godina to se odnosilo samo na poslovne račune a za ostale na zahtjev porezne ili druge institucije). Eh sada, nisam siguran kakva je situacija ako je račun otvoren u banci koja je u drugoj državi ali siguran sam da postoje međudržavni sporazumi koji to reguliraju. Pogotovo ako je i druga država članica EU.
4169  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Novosti on: May 17, 2021, 09:27:33 PM
Sjećam se da sam nekad prije par mjeseci tražio Telegram bota koji bi mi slao notifikacije o transakcijama i nikako nisam uspio pronaći jednog koji će mi javljati Bitcoin i Ethereum transakcije. Konačno sam uspio pronaći i za sad mi se čini da radi jako dobro - @tracktxbot

Radi jako dobro. Ne znam ima li limit broja walleta koliko se može pratiti, ali svakom se može dodijeliti naziv i stvarno dosta brzo šalje notifikacije.
Zvuči zanimljivo, ali se ne kužim dovoljno u telegram botove da bi mogao procjeniti risk/reward za korištenje. Da li ti botovi imaju pristup tvom telegram računu? Ako da i ako imaš telegram na pravo ime ili barem pravi broj mobitela što neki sigurno imaju - vlasnici tog bota upravo besplatno pune databasu gdje povezuju korisnike s njihovim kripto adresama. Po broju telefona danas je vrlo lako naći nekoga, a sada i znaju koliko love imaš na tim adresama. To je još uvijek vjerojatno van domašaja ekipe "5$ wrench attack" ali ko zna do kada.



IMO, Telegram botovi su jednostavno Telegram računi kojima upravlja softver. Oni mogu 'vidjeti' isto ono što i bilo koji drugi račun s kojim komunicirate. Dakle, ako ste u postavama pod Privacy and Security postavili da nitko ne može vidjeti vaš broj mobitela, isto vrijedi i za botove. Doduše, prema Telegram dokumentaciji, botovi mogu zatražiti od korisnika broj mobitela i lokaciju ali će za takav zahtjev korisnik dobiti jasno upozorenje i potrebno ga je potvrditi.
4170  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: "Satoshi set the total supply of bitcoins to 21 Million" is nonsense on: May 14, 2021, 08:03:51 PM
As I understand it, the maximum number of coins is determined by the fact that halving occurs every 210,000 blocks and that mining rewards started at 50 BTC per block. Any change in either of these values would mean a different maximum number of coins. Since both of these parameters are hardcoded into the Bitcoin client by Satoshi, your argument from the title is invalid.

In approximately 120 years when the mining reward reaches 1 satoshi per block, we will have a coin supply of 209999999.99 BTC, which means we'll never actually reach the total supply of 21 million. My guess is that exactly this is why this value isn't defined anywhere in the source code as the maximum number of coins.


No, incorrect.
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Yes, thank you. I made a slight error in the calculation because I rounded to the eighth decimal place. The exact figure (after the 33rd halving) is 20999999.9769 BTC.
4171  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Can Dogecoin reach 1$ soon? on: May 14, 2021, 07:15:48 PM
I consider accepting crypto currency for payment and buying crypto for investment purposes to be two completely different concepts. One does not necessarily imply the other.
For example, you can accept DOGE payments on your web store without caring what happens to Dogecoin tomorrow as all the payments you receive are converted instantly into fiat or stablecoin or some other cryptocurrency. Musk could do the same.

1. You are not Elon.
2. I am not Elon.

Agreed.

If Elon says that he is going to sell his cars for Doge, you would expect him to invest in Doge. He is a billionaire.

To be honest, I don't know what to expect from him. If a smart guy like Elon gets up one morning and says "Let's invest 1.5 billion in bitcoin", and then two months later says "Bitcoin is bad, because reasons!", you can't help but think that something is fishy there.
4172  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Novosti on: May 14, 2021, 03:51:38 PM
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Jebiga dvostruka pravila kad mu guzica zine. Di je zagađenje sa njegovim Space-xom di su sve odvratne stvari koje radi sa Neurolinkom? ukratko jedan odvratan lik koji voli manipulirat ljude, a u tome uspjeva jako dobro jer ljudi neznaju ni malo razmišljat, nego vjeruju svemu što taj lik kaže.

EDIT: Ko kaže da mu nije cilj da opadne cjena BTC-a i nakon što opadne da ih pokupuje opet hrpu, pa nakon toga počne kenjat kako je BTC zakon, a ljudi jedva čekaju da lik nešto kenja, pa svemu tome njegovom vjeruju...

Sve što Musk radi na društvenim mrežama je zapravo samo PR za njegove kompanije. Nebrojeni su primjeri kada je svojim tweetovima pokušao manipulirati cijenom Teslinih dionica. Kao što je najava da će Tesla postati privatna tvrtka i da su osigurana sredstva za otkup, te kasnije povlačenje te izjave a zbog toga završava pod istragom SEC-a. Naravno, postoje i slučajevi kada zbog svoje grandioznosti i narcisoidnosti ima potrebu komentirati sve i svašta, pa je poznat slučaj kada je jednog od spasitelja zatočene tajlandske djece iz špilje nazvao pedofilom, što je, čini mi se, završilo i privatnom tužbom.

Moguće je da je sada zaključio (ili mu je netko sugerirao) da je 'zelena' politika trenutno 'in' i da će skupiti više bodova u očima javnosti ako se prikazuje kao ekološki osviješteni spasitelj svijeta nego što bi mu donijela podrška 'opskurne' zajednice.


Mene samo zanima s kojim to devovima Dogea Musk priča pošto je zadnja promjena na Doge githubu vjerojatno iz 2015. Grin

Bas sam danas naletio na dobar meme u svezi glede Doge devova Cheesy


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Hahaha, dobar!
4173  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Can Dogecoin reach 1$ soon? on: May 14, 2021, 01:44:24 PM

And you know that Elon is buying, right? How so?
The only thing we know for sure is that Tesla purchased some bitcoins and (maybe) some other cryptocurrencies. There are no references to Dogecoin in their financial report.

He considers accepting doge for his cars it is only natural to think that he will buy doge. (or he already did)

I consider accepting crypto currency for payment and buying crypto for investment purposes to be two completely different concepts. One does not necessarily imply the other.
For example, you can accept DOGE payments on your web store without caring what happens to Dogecoin tomorrow as all the payments you receive are converted instantly into fiat or stablecoin or some other cryptocurrency. Musk could do the same.

LoL, tell me one thing that's not speculation in the world of crypto currencies.

Well, I guess that's true.  Cheesy
4174  Economy / Economics / Re: Marko of Whiteboard Finance Highlights Timeline of Elon Musk BTC Pivot on: May 14, 2021, 01:23:10 PM
China also holds a stranglehold on rare earth mineral reserves around the world like lithium required to manufacture EV vehicles.

Actually, Bolivia, Argentina, and Chile are at the top of the list of countries with the largest lithium reserves in the world. These three countries alone account for more than half of the identified global lithium reserves (estimated at about 80 million tons as of 2019). They are followed by the United States and Australia, with China in sixth place.[source]
4175  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Can Dogecoin reach 1$ soon? on: May 14, 2021, 11:44:18 AM
If Elon keeps buying why wouldn't it?

And you know that Elon is buying, right? How so?
The only thing we know for sure is that Tesla purchased some bitcoins and (maybe) some other cryptocurrencies. There are no references to Dogecoin in their financial report.

Once it nears its last ATH people are going to get out of their other crypto positions and pile up on doge.

This is pure speculation. The market isn't quite as predictable as you suggest. Alternatively, you can also argue that investors may short the DOGE once its ATH value approaches, as they fear a new cycle of low ROI for their asset.
4176  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2020/2021 on: May 14, 2021, 10:35:07 AM
The English Premier League has announced that it has reached an agreement on the sale of TV rights to broadcast matches to Sky Sports, BT Sport, Amazon Prime Video and BBC Sport worth around 5.5 billion euros for the period from 2022 to 2025. The amount corresponds to the previous three-year contract, about 1.83 billion euros per season, and was achieved through a direct contract instead of a public tender.

As a result, the Premier League still tops the list of football leagues when it comes to money from the sale of TV rights.
4177  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Novosti on: May 14, 2021, 10:07:17 AM
Mene samo zanima s kojim to devovima Dogea Musk priča pošto je zadnja promjena na Doge githubu vjerojatno iz 2015. Grin

Ne sviđa mi se takav neozbiljan način pristupanja kriptu, da imalo kuži što govori shvatio bi da je Doge isto što i BTC samo što majnanje Dogea troši manje struje jer je manje nodeova i jer je sigurnost mreže vjerojatno nula.

Mislim, vjerojatno on sve to kuži - al svejedno je baš iritantno pratiti.

Da. Baš bi bilo zanimljivo da uvede Dogecoin kao sredstvo plaćanja za Tesline automobile i da mu netko napravi 'double-spending' nakon kupovine. Nisam istraživao, koliko je uopće potrebno računalne snage za 51% napad na Dogecoin mreži? Bi li se isplatilo?  Grin
4178  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: "Satoshi set the total supply of bitcoins to 21 Million" is nonsense on: May 14, 2021, 09:53:11 AM
As I understand it, the maximum number of coins is determined by the fact that halving occurs every 210,000 blocks and that mining rewards started at 50 BTC per block. Any change in either of these values would mean a different maximum number of coins. Since both of these parameters are hardcoded into the Bitcoin client by Satoshi, your argument from the title is invalid.

In approximately 120 years when the mining reward reaches 1 satoshi per block, we will have a coin supply of 209999999.99 BTC, which means we'll never actually reach the total supply of 21 million. My guess is that exactly this is why this value isn't defined anywhere in the source code as the maximum number of coins.
4179  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Discussion & Betting] Eurovision Song Contest 2021 on: May 14, 2021, 08:13:17 AM
I watched all of them. I liked Manizha's song before and now with the performance, I think it's going to be really powerful, lift you up in a way. Malta definitely interesting, good song, nice beat to it. Serbia seemed dancy, something I personally like. Not sure about the rest, France, Bulgaria, Switzerland getting a lot of talks but they were honestly kinda boring to me. I prefer fun songs so maybe that's just me.
Yes Serbia has a pretty good song IMO but I liked their colored 80's fashion dress in their video clip, and now for their live performance they seem to be dressed all in black while dancing in front of a dark background(with 10kg more Tongue). Where are the colors and the fun of their video? They want to look like opera singers now?
France is the favorite of the bookmakers at the moment but it's highly overvalued IMO, moreover people don't like to spend money to vote for obvious favorites usually.  

Yup, Serbia has such a cheerful and upbeat song, but it's rather forgettable, in my opinion. And yes, it looks like they gained at least 10kg each compared to the official music video.  Grin
I know it is not okay to comment on a woman's weight, but it's their choice to show so much skin, so...

Barbara's song "Voila" has that classic French flair (reminiscent of Edith Piaf's "Padam, Padam"). It was time for the French to send a decent song after a series (except for 2018) of bad songs and performances. After listening to all the songs, I felt she had potential (remember the Portuguese song from 2017? ), but I think that this year, considering the overall situation with the Coronavirus pandemic, we need something more optimistic, more cheerful.
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