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4161  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Doesn’t Exist, Or How Satoshi Nakamoto Tells Lies To People on: June 08, 2021, 05:49:39 AM
drop a bitcoin wallet address.

i will send you 10 bucks in bitcoin.  Money where my mouth is.  note.  it tends to move around since markets havnt yet come in to large scale agreement of what bitcoin is worth.  

Once you have that 10 bucks.  go buy a coffee with it and then tell me its not money.  

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drop a bitcoin wallet address.

i will send you 10 bucks in bitcoin.  Money where my mouth is.  note.  it tends to move around since markets havnt yet come in to large scale agreement of what bitcoin is worth.  

Once you have that 10 bucks.  go buy a coffee with it and then tell me its not money.  

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If a coffee shop give me coffee because I told them via Bitcoin software that quantity is money that doesn't make my statement true. Money is not quantity, but a thing measured with quantity. I could just as well go to a coffee shop, order a coffee and pay it by writing number 1 on a peace of paper. This won't make number "1" money, but coffee owner stupid. Number is an abstraction, it holds no value and it is impossible to compare it to the value of the coffee to find out whether the "exchange" is beneficial or not. So exchanging coffee or anything for numbers is stupid. You exchange them for things, existing things - other goods, debt (fiat money), services or labor. And you use numbers only to express the quantity of these existent things.

Your argument is so funny ...

So it is more valid if a government prints a number on a piece of paper and tells you what the value of that piece of paper is, because they determine that by printing more or less of that toilet paper money? (People like you still believe fiat currencies are linked to Gold)

What happens if a software developer creates a software program or a application for your mobile phone? (Example : Apple Pay / debit/credit cards / Internet Banking / NFC payments / IMPS, NEFT, RTGS, IMPS)  .....all of these use digital "numbers" reflected of a centralized database to transfer value.)

You are such a Fiat sheep....  Grin   ....The world of payment systems and currencies are changing and people like you are clinging to the past.  Grin Grin Grin

You are holding onto a "Titanic" that are sinking... and you are still singing and dancing and ignoring the tragedy that are happening with government controlled currencies.  Grin Grin Grin
4162  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Looking for a recommended VPN to access Binance.com from teh US to withdraw on: June 07, 2021, 07:50:29 AM
So any Americans who live abroad or never connected to their binance.com account are basically free to continue to use binance abroad without any issue then assuming they are abroad and don't or ever use a vpn?

I think as long as you are not using VPNs to contravene any of the ToS requirements and if you can prove that you are actually using VPNs to access your account abroad, you will not get into trouble. (Your account has been verified and you have a legitimate reason to use it)

It is a lot like Stake.com co-owner (Eddie) that are Streaming from Australia, when he is hosting a gambling streaming session... He is a legal owner of the site, but he cannot access the site from Australia. (The servers are hosted and managed in another country, because online gambling is illegal in Aus)

Cannot see why OP, should have any problems.. if he was a verified user...  Huh
4163  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Crypto Market Reacts to Binance IRS Investigation by Shedding $150 Billion on: June 07, 2021, 06:26:22 AM
So tell me why will any regulatory institution (SEC) close down Binance, when this is happening in the Banking world? https://www.complianceweek.com/surveys-and-benchmarking/report-fines-against-financial-institutions-hit-104b-in-2020/29869.article

I quote, " Collectively, financial institutions headquartered in the United States were hit with the most expensive fines, at $7.5 billion. However, fines against Goldman Sachs related to 1MDB accounted for 91 percent of the U.S. total ($6.8 billion)." <== Fines

Changpeng Zhao began working for the Tokyo Stock Exchange, so he knows what is happening in the financial world and how these private institutions are being protected.  Roll Eyes

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-09-24/westpac-settles-austrac-money-laundering-case/12696438

I quote, " Westpac has reached a deal with financial crime watchdog AUSTRAC to settle more than 23 million alleged breaches of anti-money laundering laws by paying a record $1.3 billion penalty."   Roll Eyes
4164  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Doesn’t Exist, Or How Satoshi Nakamoto Tells Lies To People on: June 07, 2021, 05:48:07 AM

BTC is not created out of thin air. There is no one out there who will just pop out and print BTC to paste it into the blockchain. BTC is being mined using the devices solving hashes crunching numbers and consuming energy. How is that a lie when banks are already adopting it?

Well, you still could say it's a Ponzi but there is no one here that will ever think Satoshi can print more BTC just as the FED are doing which is a bigger Ponzi. It will always be 21M BTC ever.



Of course BTC is not created out of thin air given it's nonexistent. But quantity data on nonexistent BTC is created out of thin air. The fact the creating is done after POW is like writing letter on a piece of paper after one does hundred push-up, and then claim that the letter is not created out of thin air. It is. Letters and numbers are always created out of thin air. Regarding scarcity. Only existent things can be scarce. If you put a limit in an algorithm to 21 million this is just an arbitrary decision. You could have put it to 21 trillion. It doesn't matter. It's just numbers. And numbers can go to infinity. Numbers, that is, quantities have nothing to do with scarcity. And all you have in blockchain is quantities.

It is very obvious that you do not understand the basics about how consensus work and how that is applied to the decision making regarding the coin cap. You also do not understand the "value" of digital goods and services, so you will have a difficulty understanding why people are willing to pay "physical" fiat money for that.

The younger generation grew up with digital items and they know why people will pay thousands of Dollars for a limited edition Counter-Strike weapon or even just a skin for a weapon. This is also why eight "digital" lots sold for a combined $1.5 million on the gaming platform Axie Infinity.

Do you even know how difficult it was to implement "SegWit" and why there was a Bitcoin Cash fork? (Imagine trying to convince full nodes to increase the Bitcoin coincap)  Grin Grin Grin
4165  Economy / Economics / Re: Is Covid-19 carrying the growth in digital currencies? on: June 06, 2021, 04:17:40 PM

As a result of Covid -19, in payment preferences, Many companies and authorities around the world are increasingly looking at digital currencies as an alternative way to make transactions in digitalized world. So guys what do you think about ? How will be easy the day today life after adopting for digital currencies?

I do not think people are more interested in Bitcoin (Crypto currencies) because they want alternative payment options. I think the main driving factor behind Crypto currencies are investment related. People are looking for ways to make money, during a period where "money making" through traditional methods are a lot harder. (businesses had to close and people lost their jobs)

Yes, there might be a small percentage of people who might be using Crypto currencies, but they are just a handful of true believers in the technology. ( I am one of them and I know of very little other people in my immediate surrounding that actually use Crypto as a currency, apart from online gambling and some Pornhub subscriptions. )

It is more appealing to use it as an investment option, because the volatility makes it attractive as a Commodity.  Sad
4166  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The fall from 65k to $30k was the best thing to ever happen to Bitcoin on: June 06, 2021, 08:17:44 AM
I think it is a good thing when the Bitcoin community can be cleansed of the weak hands and the speculators. It will be good for Bitcoin if we can do that 2 to 3 times a year. It will also be great if the price will recover and then stay stable for months to give the merchants an opportunity to accept Bitcoin as a currency.

The primary goal should be for Bitcoin to be used as a currency and not as a commodity and high volatility is not good for a currency. Fiat currencies are manipulated by governments to be stable, but the Bitcoin price is purely based on Supply & Demand and it will take time for it to reduce the whales and to have a more even distribution of coins for a more stable price.  Wink
4167  Economy / Gambling / Re: Bitcarra Bit-Crash Gaming Coming Soon on: June 06, 2021, 07:17:22 AM
It is really about time that someone (developers) can come up with something that can break the traditional "Bustabit" crash model, because every other copycat version used by other casinos are just some more of the same.

I also think the "show and tell" of the beta website was a bit early, because it is basically just the ToS and a little bit of information on the concept and not a working game or even just a video demo of the working game.  Roll Eyes
4168  Other / Off-topic / Re: Are you done listening to Elon ? on: June 05, 2021, 04:39:05 PM
I regard Elon Musk as a knowledgeable expert in Payment Systems, with his prior experience with "PayPal" .... but things are changing fast and I think Elon Musk is so involved with several other projects now, that he somehow lost his touch with reality.

The guy is not one of the richest people in the world, because he is a idiot... so you cannot disregard his inputs and opinion... but when his tweets are used to manipulate markets.. then I stop listening to him. (I am not into Pump n Dump coins)  Roll Eyes  <=== Shiba Inu
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I like the new fresh graphics and the "Fruit Blast" feature ... here is hoping that we will see this on every Stake Streamers session for months to come.  Grin

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4170  Economy / Economics / Re: I currently cannot own a Paypal, Bank Account, CashApp, etc on: June 04, 2021, 06:53:29 AM
Well, it is a difficult thing to answer... without having to risk ..getting you into trouble with your parents and also breaking some ToS and then having the trading platform "locking" or even closing your dad's account.  Roll Eyes

So, that said.. Why do you have to cash out? Most Exchanges and trading platforms will just credit your cash balance when you sell, so you will not lose anything. Also ...some trading platforms will allow you to place "buy" and "sell" orders for a specific amount, so the order will be placed at that amount, without you having to interact with the platform. (Just automate the whole process, if it is possible with the platform that you are using.... this way your dad can approve the amount, whilst you two are together)  Wink

Example : You and your Dad decide to Sell Bitcoin at $36 500 ... So you place a Sell Order for that amount and you just login again and set a new buy order when he is back at home. (A good bonding opportunity between a parent and a child... and he might even trust you to use his account, if he is not around.. just check in with him ... before you do something.)  Wink

4171  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Who are Bitcoin's Unsung Heroes? on: June 04, 2021, 06:04:11 AM
Let's not forget that some of the people that were heroes back then, turned into villains.... Let's take Gavin Andresen as an example.. He was the Lead developer for Bitcoin at one stage and Satoshi's successor, but after he spoke to the 3Letter Agency, Satoshi disappeared from the scene. (Gavin also had one of the first Bitcoin faucets...which paid between 1 to 5 bitcoins per person)  Grin

Then he teamed up with Mike Hearn, AKA Rage quiter ( Bitcoin developer and former senior software engineer at Google ) and they tried a hostile takeover of the Bitcoin development and when that failed, they forced a fork that almost split the Bitcoin community.

Let's not honor some of the villains (Mike Hearn) of this experiment, because the damage that they have done, might be more than the contributions that they have done.  Roll Eyes
4172  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: How many would be interested to have a device that encrypt directly what u type? on: June 03, 2021, 01:39:06 PM
You know what you can develop is something that Encrypt the Private Key when you have to "sweep" it from your Paper wallet to your desktop wallet.  Wink  It will be nice if someone will not be able to keylog your Private key, when you are in the process to sweep it from cold storage to your Paper Wallet.

So you can go offline when you "Copy" the Private Key, then this software encrypts it and then you go online again and it is in memory in a encrypted format and once you logged into your Online wallet and you Paste it.. it will decrypt it and insert it in the field to sweep the wallet.  Wink

It is always stressful when you have to sweep a wallet and you do not know if it can be intercepted before you are able to sweep it.  Roll Eyes
4173  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Ohio offering lottery prize worth one million for those that get the COVID shot on: June 03, 2021, 11:33:15 AM
You know what this reminds me off?  .....Elections in Africa

I worked on contract in a lot of African countries and one of the things that often happens is this... a few days before the elections, a team of people will go into the poor communities and they will give people FREE bread and T-shirts, if they promise to vote for their party. (It is legal to do this, but they are not allowed to do that on election day)

Ask yourself this question... Why would they offer Millions of Dollars for people to get vaccinated? Answer  : Money!!!! (leave all the conspiracy theories about how harmful these vaccines might be) They hope that enough people will get vaccinated, so that restrictions on the economy could be lifted, once heard immunity will be reached. (No restrictions = More businesses operating = More Taxes for governments)  Angry
4174  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Elon Musk's tweets violated court orders on: June 03, 2021, 08:43:22 AM
Hey, he has been under the spotlight for market manipulation before and now he is back to his old tricks. This time he is using clever tricks to hide his agenda. (Saying things like... "I am looking for a Shiba Pup.." ).... to trigger people into buying Shiba coins. The SEC will have a hard time penalizing him, because the tweet has a double meaning and he will just deny that it had anything to do with Shiba INU.  Roll Eyes

In any way, when you have loads of money... you are in a position to hire a army of lawyers to represent you, if they want to take this to court.  Sad   

Market manipulation is not that easy to prove and Social media tweets are open for interpretation.  Roll Eyes
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I started yesterday with "Gator Gold" (because it is new) and I dropped 500 bets into it, but I did not win any of the prizes... then I switched to "Cauldron" with another 1000 bets and came out empty with that too... but with that said, won enough back to break even.  Wink

I will play some of the older games today, to see if I can get one of the random prizes.  Roll Eyes   ( I like the fact that they do not have a minimum bet amount for this one, because the increased minimum bet during some promotions.. can be expensive, when you chasing a random drop )
4176  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How to earn some profit trading BTC on: June 03, 2021, 05:35:38 AM
So are people still using ByBit?  Grin   

In any way, you are really pushing it to introduce "newbies" to Leverage trading and I will never recommend "newbies" to start with that type of trading. I will much rather introduce "newbies" to Spot trading, where they will get immediate delivery and where they can trade with lower risk. (debt trading can be a killer)  Tongue

In any way, your strategy will be best suited to a more experience Spot trader, than wants to dip his toes into something new and with a slightly higher risk.  Grin
4177  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: $5000 to $1 million in 3 years and little over 2000 bets! on: June 02, 2021, 01:16:33 PM
Every "get rich quick" story should always be prefaced with "Once upon a time..." or "Warning, may not have actually occurred"...

Any strategy to get rich quick (and after all, that's all the OP's post is) usually comes unstuck in a multitude of ways (such as the horse falling down, black not red coming up) and the author then blames the punter for not following their regime closely enough.
 

3 years of discipline and dedication is not get rich quick lol.

So, with all the doubters bashing you...let me be the one that will congratulate you on being so disciplined to stay on this strategy for such a long time. I also followed a very disciplined strategy with my Bitcoin investments and it really paid off after 7 years.... so I know it takes a lot of self control not to cash out and to take the profits, when you focused on that end goal.  Wink

A lot of people doubted me too.. and they even encouraged me to sell at the different All-time-high points... but I stuck to my strategy and  it paid off in the end. Job Well Done...  Wink Wink Wink
4178  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Tesla Competitor to Launch First Electric Car That Mines Bitcoin and Dogecoin on: June 02, 2021, 11:18:52 AM
Ok, we all know Crypto currency mining require a large amount of electricity.. so let's imagine this scenario. You charge your EV to 100% and you drive to work. In a parking bay, your EV starts to mine some Crypto currency and the battery are drained. Now you have to recharge your car again, before you can drive back to your home.  Roll Eyes

It is fine if this Crypto currency is based on some PoS coin, because it consumes much less energy.... but then you have to lock up 1000's of Dollars worth of Crypto to allow you to mine these coins.  Roll Eyes

Also, most batteries only have a few thousand cycles to recharge the battery and when those are done, you have to replace the batteries.. which will absorb most of the profits that you might have received whilst mining with them.  Roll Eyes
4179  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2021-05-28] Biden’s 2022 Budget Includes New Crypto Reporting Proposals on: June 02, 2021, 06:09:20 AM
So, as you can see... legislators are only worried about the taxes, because it all comes down to loopholes that can be used for tax evasion and that will hurt their budget. (salary)  Roll Eyes   They give a rats ass about the threat of the sovereignty of the Crypto currencies and the threat it pose for their reserve currency... because the potential tax losses is the most important.  Grin

Also, the tradition financial sector are putting pressure on government to apply the same rules and regulation on Crypto assets, than what is required from them. (The brokers and financial investment firms are losing millions of dollars, because people are trading Crypto on their own and they not using their services.)  Grin
4180  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What would you do if you were new to Bitcoin and given £10 Bitcoin For Free on: June 02, 2021, 05:43:42 AM
I think I would do, what most newbies will do... which is nothing.

Let me explain... Most people fear the unknown, so when faced with something unknown.. they will do nothing, until they researched the new thing that was presented to them. When they fully comprehend what the "new" thing is, it will either tickle their curiosity and they will investigate further OR they will not be interested and simply find a way to get their hands on the "cash".

I have seen this first hand, when I gave people a "Paper wallet" with some bitcoins for Xmas... I would say more than 80% of those coins are still on the paper wallet and only 20% of those coins have shifted to a new Bitcoin address. (possibly transferred to an exchange to be converted to fiat currencies)  Roll Eyes
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