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4181  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: What will be ethereum price in 2 years from now ? on: July 18, 2016, 09:33:21 PM
I think Ether will settle at around ~ 0.02 to 0.025 BTC provided there are no negative supply shocks in 2017 when Casper goes live

I think the PoW will support the price better than the PoS. So before PoS, the price could be 0.02, after it will be less than 0.01.

The Ethereum price will be a binary bet. If all goes well after the hard fork, the price will be $100, otherwise, it is zero.
Too many big investors for it to really go to 0 now.
4182  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Why Etherium price is decreasing day by day ? on: July 18, 2016, 09:31:25 PM
Somebody stole my 666 ETH yesterday. Can we hard fork again please? Wink
Put it to the community to vote on.
4183  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: I think Ethereum will be finished after this attack on: July 18, 2016, 07:08:33 PM
ETH will keep dropping as people are uncertain that the hard fork is successful. Even then, it will take some time for people to regain confidence in ETH.
For now, ETH won't rise as confidence will be lost after the DAO hacking.
The weak hands will be shaken out the tree. Those of us going long don't care so much for any shorterm fall. If successful I think the HF will demonstrate how great the ETH community is in its time of need. And this is what investors and big money will like to see.
4184  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: ETH price soaring. Are you going to move some BTC into ETH? on: July 18, 2016, 07:03:53 PM
Buying ethereum last day at 0.0175 and now im saiwitng price comeback to 0.03 Roll Eyes
i think the ardfork can give some bost at ethereum price

Buying the Ethereum is a gamble at the moment. It could rise to 0.05 or drop to 0.01. It is better to wait.

Well if those are the options then it's a clear buy, you need to talk percentages hehe. I think there's a strong chance for a rally after the hard fork, perhaps a strong bull trap but a rally either way. The HF will remove FUD and will let Ethereum start fresh and focusing on their roadmap.

Of course, like I said, price should be back to sub $5 by now if crypto was a little more logical, ETH accomplishes nothing, it's only about potential and if you ask me, that potential took a huge hit after the biggest "smart" contract was hacked while approved and audited by ETH devs...
It's also known as growing pains and is similar to what Bitcoin has gone through and is going through. Crypto wasn't built in a day and neither will crypto.
4185  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: #TogetherWeAreETH on: July 18, 2016, 02:20:03 PM
Do we really need another "rally the troops thread"?
Another? I don't remember any other thread discussing the benefits of an Ethereum hashtag.
4186  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How can people be buying eth right now? on: July 18, 2016, 02:17:53 PM
Some people expected the Ethereum price to drop below $2 by now due to DAO hack. It did not drop so low, so they buy.

That could be true. Without the community support, the Etheruem price could be below $1 after so much fud.

But if a hack like that could not bring ether down, doesn't that mean that it is more stable than the majority here means?
Yes. ETH has the community support and devs BTC could only dream of. Yes it's early days for ETH but how many times has BTC been predicted to die?
4187  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ETH = Game Over on: July 18, 2016, 02:15:23 PM
We will know if the ETH = Game over in the next few weeks. If the Ethereum survives, the price will be $50.

50? why there is no reason for it anymroe to increase so high, unless this take in consideration the upcoming increase of bitcoin, which will indirectly increase all other altcoin value in $

if past is any indication, with bitcoin price going up most of the altcoins' prices are going to fall or don't get affected. and in case of ethereum the last time bitcoin price went up eth went down.

i don't think we have seen the last of ethereum but it is nearing its game over time.
Why? Things are only getting interesting in the Ethereum ecosystem.
4188  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The DAO Disaster Illustrates Differing Philosophies in Bitcoin and Ethereum on: July 18, 2016, 02:11:38 PM
Philosophies ?  Cheesy

One is a currency and one is not..

Might as well compare a Lawn-mower and a scammy ICO Turkey sandwich  Grin
Currency - the fact or quality of being generally accepted or in use.

If people agree to use something, anything as a medium of exchange then it's a currency. But you know that ETH is MORE THAN simply a currency.
4189  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The DAO Disaster Illustrates Differing Philosophies in Bitcoin and Ethereum on: July 18, 2016, 02:08:57 PM
I guess everyone has forgotten about block 74638, when somebody following the consensus rules created 184 billion BTC. A hard fork was done in order to undo those transactions.
Everyone including you, it seems. It was a soft fork (which didn't specifically target any particular transaction, it just fixed the overflow bug).

You are correct. It wasn't a hard fork, but that is not really the point.

The claim is that Bitcoin and Ethereum are different because Bitcoin transactions would never be undone in order to fix something that people feel is an exploit. Yet, it has been done.

A 51% attack against Bitcoin was successfully executed with a client that enforced new consensus rules in order to undo transactions that were valid under the current consensus rules.

You feel that there was a "bug" in the consensus rules that needed to be fixed, just as people now feel that there is a bug in the DAO contract that needs to be fixed. It all looks the same to me.
Of course it's the same. Anyone who denies it is simply a ETH fudder. 
4190  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Please help us to choose a new FailCommunity's logo. on: July 18, 2016, 01:27:56 AM
I would shorten the name to simply 'Fail Comm' and build logo from there. Will doodle around and get back to you.
4191  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: #TogetherWeAreETH on: July 18, 2016, 01:20:31 AM
Please, please do this.

I love you Minecache. Not homosexual style, I love your persistence and ambition.

Hell, if I was active in social media, I would do this just for the questions it would garner from my friends.

#Ethereumlivesmatter

I'm black, and from Baton Rouge, I might take some heat for that  Grin
Love you too bro. It's gud to share the love, but let's try not politicise this thread. Black or white, BTC or ETH we are all crypto bros. Smiley
4192  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Ethereum - Time to buy or time to sell? on: July 18, 2016, 12:43:12 AM
what you think when Augur go live it help Ethereum price go up or will score the last nail in the Vitallium?

it should help ETH to rise again. just like how DAO helped eth.
ETH had survived the great FUD of its life so it has no reason why it would ever fail this time. so you wanna be part of the growth, buy now.

I am very surprised that the Etheruem survived the biggest fud ever in the history of crypto currency.
We shouldn't really be surprised because most of the ETH holders and community, who are overwhelmingly intellectuals, could read through the ETH haters FUD. 
4193  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / #TogetherWeAreETH on: July 18, 2016, 12:39:28 AM
Pre- and post-fork I encourage all members of the Ethereum community to use the hashtag #TogetherWeAreETH in their social media tweets, posts, messages, emails, texts, and blogs to show their support for ETH. Stronger together we will not let a lone wolf attacker break our resilience and belief.

#TogetherWeAreETH
4194  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ETH hardfork incoming. on: July 18, 2016, 12:32:41 AM
the price will go down if:

A. They do not fork as the dao hacker will likely sell all that ETH

B. They do fork and those people who recover their funds from the hack will sell their ETH because they are scared and want out of a broken system/project.

Heads you lose, tails you lose.

They just lose less if they do A because then there reputation isn't now tarnished with "do-overs" and rollbacks that can happen in the future should there be another hack down the road.

Why are people buying this stuff up to this price? Like you, I can't see the uncertainly immediately after the fork helping anything. So why is this price riding so high? I think it's being manipulated up for the short of the century.

My guess: There are a lot of financial interests at hand that have a bias with the price going up as opposed to down.

But I think this whole DAO hack fiasco has been ETH's "mtgox moment".

Its not the same thing but it sure feels the same from a sentiment standpoint as far as a crisis is concerned.
It's indeed ETHs Mt Gox moment but it's also showing how strong and resilient the ETH community is. #TogetherWeAreETH

4195  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: I think Ethereum will be finished after this attack on: July 18, 2016, 12:22:05 AM
Finished. As in keeps on going and rising

deadcat bouncing.
ETH is going down, wait and see.
Like BTC before it everyone keeps predicting ETHs demise. How long post-fork should we wait? Now is the best time to invest in more ETH.
4196  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: ETH price soaring. Are you going to move some BTC into ETH? on: July 18, 2016, 12:15:18 AM
Yes as much as I don't understand how ETH kept its price up, we can all agree that it's a fact. I still think it will drop after the hard fork but really, perhaps it even rallies, the ETH community proved to have very strong hands and really believe in the ETH team...plus they have miners on their side so not sure if it'll go below 5 bucks and lower as we all though initially.

Patience, patience. It's locked in a powerful downtrend right now (rejected twice now by the 200-day SMA for example) and it should be heading further south in the coming months. Whether it goes to five dollars is sort of dependent on BTC price, as that's where the majority of trade happens.

I also think BTC will eventually go back to a more accurate trendline of $550-600, it's completely overvalued right now. It's the time to get into alts as it's the most difficult time to buy really. I really don't see it going $700-800 anytime soon, maybe next year.
Indeed. It's a fantastic time to diversify and consolidate your long position on ETH. Clear buy signals from the market as we go move to fork. If successful expect to see the price soar especially as BTC is so overvalued right now. A lot of BTC sellers will lock in their profits with ETH buys post-fork.
4197  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do u know someone who owns 1000 Bitcoin or more? on: July 11, 2016, 11:34:18 PM
Will this thread be repeated in future asking do you know anyone with 21 BTC?
4198  Other / Off-topic / Re: What is Max amount of btc once you own? on: July 11, 2016, 11:20:41 PM
I think 21 BTC is a respectable bag.
4199  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ethereum is giving a hard time on: July 11, 2016, 11:03:38 PM
Earlier it was the exploit and now http://cointelegraph.com/news/developer-claims-ethereum-is-stolen-intellectual-property-files-complaints-with-fbi
I'm invested in ethereum and it is giving much headache than development.
Opinion?
How many times has Bitcoin died? ETH is just going through the same haters gonna FUD hate.
4200  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [2016-7-11]Developer Claims Ethereum is Stolen Intellectual Property, Files Comp on: July 11, 2016, 11:00:59 PM
I'm not a lawyer, but I don't think that ideas themselves are covered by intellectual property law. It would be helpful to know exactly what he claims was stolen.

Exactly. You can't patent ideas. ETH gets successful so a money grubbing r0ach crawls out the woodwork.
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