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4181  Other / Off-topic / Re: Please, share your best photoshoped picture of potus in monkey, I love it. on: April 20, 2015, 10:53:56 PM
And i thought i misread your first thread. But you simply are a racist. I hope you can be proud for more than your skin color because, surprise, you never did anything to get it.
4182  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Where do LocalBitcoins.com buyers of Amazon Gift Cards sell same cards? on: April 20, 2015, 10:41:44 PM
He could sell them to himself if he has an Amazon Seller account (He needs to have another account to do that)

Can you explain? You mean he buys his own products? But wheres the profit then if he has to buy the gift cards first?
4183  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Damn3d SCAM for PREMIUM Spotify Accounts! BUYERS BEWARE! on: April 20, 2015, 09:56:54 PM
Tomatocage is already sure that this is a scam?

I dont understand why the login changes. Whats the explaination for that?

Saying that... how to know that the accounts didnt get their pass changed by OP and he only claims he couldnt get in anymore? OP might have changed the pass himself and sold the accounts to someone. I dont accuse, i only say i see that unproveable possibility.

It would help if this isnt the only person who claims these problems.
4184  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] Purse.io - Bitcoin Amazon Marketplace - Save ~10-25% on Amazon Wishlist on: April 20, 2015, 09:22:07 PM
Hi,

My order has been accepted 8 hours ago and it's still not processed yet. I am still waiting. How long does it usually take to complete the order?

Thanks

Check the list of orders on the top right button, then sort for your country and see where your order is with searching for "your order". You might be at the bottom with a high discount.

Maybe its harder for some amazon countries to get a buyer? Dont know.
4185  Economy / Web Wallets / Re: Blockchain.info - Bitcoin Block explorer & Currency Statistics on: April 20, 2015, 08:38:58 PM
Can i disable all addresses in a transaction that i dont care about? for example only my address receiving even when other received too in the same transaction?

Can i filter by date?

And are the fiat-values calculated to the bitcoinprice on that day or hour?
4186  Other / Archival / Re: quickseller on: April 20, 2015, 06:46:33 PM
I'm sure that he only did add -trust because he did feel that something was wrong with the transaction. I don't blame him either. If this was something that could have put him at risk of having to pay for something that he was just trying to help with, its completely understandable. I like Quickseller and thinks that he does a outstanding job zeroing out the scammers and potential scammers on the forum, I don't think that the rating should be changed, but shouldn't be added to by others either. I've seen tons of people just post on others trust because someone else did. While that's fine too, I think the circumstances surrounding this case feedback should only be left by Quickseller, and not by anybody else and Quicksellers notation in the trust should be this thread where it shows all the evidence of the case and let the person use their own judgement with dealing with this user. If I was the OP I would just give it some time and show people on the forum that you wasn't trying to scam anybody, that you made a small mistake in judgement and apologize. Then ask Quickseller to either remove it or rate it as neutral.

I only speak for me but i dont bother reading anything more when someone has red trust. Because in the past it was a sign for a scammer. Simply as that.

And whats the small mistake in judgement? Am i understood it wrong that rules werent clear before the trade started?
4187  Other / Archival / Re: quickseller on: April 20, 2015, 06:43:40 PM

The trust system's main function is to prevent scams from happening, not to punish them.

Um... im happy you are no judge as profession. I mean the defendant doesnt want to speak... he must be guilty. I really dont think it makes sense to leave the trust system for people that decide someone might scam. Who are they to judge before anything happened? If i would have done so i would have marked many persons red and i dont know of anyone who actually scammed later.

Trust system protects against scammers who clearly offer things everyone can see are scam attempts. But going out of a deal is not enough to justify knowing he is a scammer. Quickseller not even claimed that. But the red color says he is now. I think only a handful would check where the red actually came from.


I see you totally missed the point of what I said:
First, it's not the same sending someone to jail than leaving a negative ratings, so comparing a forum to a court and a user to a judge makes no sense whatsoever. Besides a negative trust can easily be removed. I've left negative feedback when I have more than 50% certainty someone is a scammer and I keep watching. Most the times I confirm his intentions but of course more than once I've removed it a few minutes or hours later.
Second, I said the user must have fishy or shady behavior that makes him suspicious in order for him to receive a negative trust. Of course him not wanting "to speak" is not enough (not sure why you even wrote this).
The whole point of what I posted and you quoted is that the trust system must rely on a certain level of assumption. If someone clearly shows a scammy behavior then it's natural for him to receive a negative feedback, but not without any reason at all.

Here I'm not saying OP deserves a negative trust (or doesn't). I'm just saying a certain degree of assumption is required for the trust system to work. If fact if you had read the other posts of this thread you would have read my other post where I say I think a negative feedback is too harsh. But definitely OP's behavior was somewhat shady.


So if a red trust rating is not the same like marking a scammer, would you be fine if someone makes your trust red because he "thinks" you are a scammer? You know... you would not be able to defend yourself, because the evidences are only the believe of someone. So what would you say then?

I guess if the seller in this case is buying the accounts and the escrow can confirm, then it might be enough to take that trust away? But still, 50% sure that someone is a scammer. Im really not sure that he is one. So that makes it fully dependend on the user who views the case. And im sure if you move on that way that you will hurt someones justice feelings and he will neg rep you too at the end. I wonder how the scam accusation threads will read then.

Not speak meant its easy to judge a delinquent at court when he doesnt defend itself. Its obvious he cant say anything against because he is guilty. Luckily there is a rule that allows this and it cant be taken against him. Might be you dont take a red trust as a court order but look around the forums, the ones with the red trust are practically all scammers. It doesnt matter if you spread red votes on believes, its practically a scammer label. And i would not care to read what was written in there. If someone "had a feeling" that he might be a scammer. I simply wouldnt use him. And he would be out of business as long as he doesnt create a scam accusation threat.

Ok, you dont think the red trust is justified. But i think OP wasnt shady too. Only rules werent made clear before the start. The trade already started without that. I wouldnt want to be in a trade and then hear new rules being added to the contract.
4188  Other / Archival / Re: quickseller on: April 20, 2015, 06:42:22 PM
If you take control of an account prior to receiving payment then the identity of the account will leak to the buyer then the buyer could publish the identity of the account which would cause damage to the seller.

There are ways to make the transfer so that it isnt revealed. For example only changing after escrow has the coins in escrow address.

Even if not, its up to buyer and seller to negotiate on a security level they feel comfortable with. Escrow only should step in when its unsecure for him or to give a tip about a potential risk. But at the end its up to them to decide what they feel comfortable with.

It would also be that there could be a large amount of time that the escrow is in control of the account and it the account was immediately previously involved in something malicious then it may look like the escrow was behind the malicious activity.

I dont see that problem since its easily proven that the escrow isnt in charge.

Another risk to the escrow would be that the account could get banned while in possession of the escrow and there would be a question of if the escrow did something to get the account banned or if it was the behavior of the seller.

Then you might let the logins send to you only after the escrow address is funded. Its highly unlikely that it gets banned in the time after that.

A third risk to the escrow is what happens when the buyer takes a long time to pay. If the escrow is taking possession of the account first then there is an argument to pay the seller directly so there could be a delay in payment then the account would eventually get returned to the seller. If the buyer does not receive notification that the account is returned to the seller then the seller could end up with both payment and the account  

Buyer funds first then. And why should the escrow release the coins to the seller before the buyer claims the accounts are secured?

If the buyer were to pay first then funds would be safe for the buyer in the event that the seller is unable to deliver. The escrow would be in control of the private key associated with the escrow address so he can refund the buyer in the event the seller cannot deliver.

I am saying that ponzis were able to more easily deflect questions about their ability to be trusted and let them say that everyone that's runs a ponzi has negative trust and is not a reflection on them specifically.  

Might be that scammers are often virtuous with words. Though assuming that this here was a scam attempt sounds a far fetched assumption. Its not that he posted some "Double your bitcoin"-Links, where you know with certainty whats going on.

Edit:

You have no way of knowing if the account named by the seller is actually owned by the seller, or even if it is, you have no way of knowing that the seller will actually provide the password to the account once escrow is funded. That method puts the escrow at risk.

Then the escrow gives back the bitcoins. No risk at all. Since those things practically never happens, its not a risk at all. Even when, no harm done. The seller can get a red trust and thats it. If he later comes and claims he was in hospital then things can proceed.
4189  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] Official Shareholder Discussion Thread [Moderated] on: April 20, 2015, 06:05:47 PM
so many thieves, non-the-less , victims will get good deeds from the criminal, or criminals will get bad deeds from the victim. "in the after life judgement day"

well, the wealth you will get in afterlife will be beneficial , that's only if you are following the true religion, must i say "islam"
if not, then lost in both worlds.


Lately this forum looks a bit like the playing ground for a missionary war.
4190  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Cryptostocks - Are they Still Relevant? on: April 20, 2015, 06:03:55 PM
Is the Cryptostocks platform still relevant?  I have heard that it is not as active as it used to be and that projects have shifted away from them.

I know of Havelock and NXT, but what are some of the other popular stock platforms available.

Most of them are scams and ponzis, beware of many so called crypto stocks that keep sprouting everywhere, better to buy and keep Bitcoins, it will outperform almost all the stocks over the course of the next few years Smiley Buy and hold Bitcoins instead of getting one of those crypto stocks Smiley

When bitcoin price is falling huge each month then indeed its very easy to outperform all these securities that turn out to lose ALL your money at the end. Tongue
4191  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Cryptostocks - Are they Still Relevant? on: April 20, 2015, 05:54:35 PM
I found that kumala, owner of cryptostocks, left behind cryptostocks without giving any support anymore. I tried to reach him on behalf of LCSH through different ways i found, but theres no chance to get an answer from him. I even contacted a user on here who claimed he knows him, though no answer.

So having anything worthwhile on cryptostocks sound like a risk. If something goes wrong then thats it i guess.

So these decentralized exchanges, with their IOU's, how sure can one be to get the equivalent of real currency out of the system? I mean some IOU's are given out by NXT itself but some are given out by others. Regardless of who gave them out... is there any security that you can get the value items for your IOUs or is there the risk that NXT or another issuer is simply a scammer?
4192  Economy / Securities / Re: [CANNABIT] Investment Details - Announcement & Discussion Thread #cannabit on: April 19, 2015, 07:52:47 PM
personnaly I wonder if they will show again or if they ran away with our BTC ...

They did not run. I can tell you so much. Though im not sure when we get the next payment exactly.

So far im very sure this isnt dead.

Good news Cheesy I'll wait and see

Yes, i guess. Wink But i think shareholders really should think about moving the security because iam, personally, would see a risk putting div coins to cryptostocks as long as the owner isnt responding.

So what are shareholders thoughts about this topic?

At this point I don't care. How do you know that this isn't dead?

The same way he knows that Ukyo is going to pay him back. Because hope is the last thing to die.

I dont care what you think. You are one of those who dont check things. They go the easiest way which is claiming that someone is the scammer.

Im working on other scam attempts trying to solve them and because of that i know way more than others. Because i investigate and find things out. I dont care what some stupid scam-cryers do. They wont have a chance at all. I decide based on what is the best way for my own funds. So i dont care about the whiners who will never reach anything with their stupid easy way, which in fact is no easy way.

Might be that most scams wont find a solution. But at least im not going the easy route.

Cannabit is nothing near a scam. And i dont care if you believe me.

I dont want to discuss with you because i have better things to do with my time. So welcome on my ignore list Mr. Easy Way. Its not because of this post, its because i know you from before too. You are far away from productive. And i have better things to do than dealing with unproductiveness.
4193  Economy / Services / Re: DA DICE Signature Campaign - 'Da' BEST Yet | HIGHEST RATES! | JOIN THE FUN! on: April 17, 2015, 07:52:01 PM
Did you want to answer me? It wasnt directed at you. It was more for ndnhc because he once asked if we haves suggestions to the campaign. When i read the posts i quoted i thought that this might be a point to consider for ndnhc. If you see 4 of the same commercials in a TV commercial break then you would not be more likely to buy that item. Thats why i brought that topic up. Wink

lol. it didn't actually seem to be directed at me. None of the quoted posts belonged to me, so I didn't assume so.

Well, there is actually not many things we could do about that. If you see the same thing a lot, it will create an impression on your mond, unless you find it annoying, that is a good thing, esp. with building a brand image. Smiley

Well, we also have a max posts limit to check on that. Wink

Edit: IMO, you are more likely to notice an ad that appears more frequently. How many times do you see the same ad on TV in a day?

Youre right... sorry for that. I sometimes forget that others arent in the same state of mind than myself. Wink
4194  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Explorer with Euro Values? on: April 17, 2015, 07:48:12 PM
Where can i change the currency shown? So far the website looks interesting because i need something like a stat showing the incoming money.

you need to click on the value itself to change it

Doesnt work for me. Im on blockr.io but the values arent clickable or if they are they lead to the actual transaction.

did you clicked here



because it work fine for me, i'm using chrome

Oh, you mean on the front page. But unfortunately that option seems to be only for the chart on the frontpage. It doesnt automatically calculate the bitcoins to the Euro-Worth of the time of transaction.

Or is there a way? Or an alternative? Maybe a way to kill all the addresses i dont care on blockchain.info? Only my receiving address to show up?
4195  Economy / Services / Re: DA DICE Signature Campaign - 'Da' BEST Yet | HIGHEST RATES! | JOIN THE FUN! on: April 17, 2015, 07:40:28 PM
I was making at least 150 posts per week and the last two weeks had made close to 200 posts. I had been asking for higher posting limits for a while too Sad

I really don't see why anyone would need to make 100 posts per week much less 200 posts. To me, that seems rather unnecessary and looks as though you do it just for signature money. There are hero/legendary members who don't post nearly half as much. Apparently, ndnhc and marco have you on a pedestal. Since your posts are "super" constructive, why not apply for a moderator/staff position here?

I look forward to your  200+ posts per week O' wise one!

He was probably making close to or around that before he even joined any sig campaigns. He just advertised his own thread up until a month or so ago. I don't see the correlation between how many posts a Hero or Legendary makes either, and you don't apply to become staff, you get asked if you report a lot of posts and are very active (which he is so maybe he will eventually).

When i have read your post i thought that posting often in the same thread doesnt make much sense marketing wise. You want the signature being seen by many users, not 20 times by the same user. Saying that, most users dont check threads every hour, they check a thread once every day or every two days. Of course i dont speak about the addicted ones. Smiley

So when a user is posting 5 posts in the same thread in one day then its worth is diminished. The ad will be seen by the reader again and again. Though its worth more that many different users see the ads. And you get that by being present in as many threads as possible. So that you can be sure that a user reading is seeing one. Showing him 20 doesnt make him more likely to play there.

Saying that... dadice is present everywhere anywhere. I only thought it might make sense to think about that. I dont know if there are many users who post the majority of their posts in single threads.
I was posting the same way that I was previously, however I was wearing the signature that advertised my sales thread.

Did you want to answer me? It wasnt directed at you. It was more for ndnhc because he once asked if we haves suggestions to the campaign. When i read the posts i quoted i thought that this might be a point to consider for ndnhc. If you see 4 of the same commercials in a TV commercial break then you would not be more likely to buy that item. Thats why i brought that topic up. Wink
4196  Other / Politics & Society / Re: IT is likely the first person who will live to be 1,000yo is already alive today on: April 17, 2015, 01:58:36 PM
Ask them to call you first before they deliver.
4197  Economy / Exchanges / Re: [OFFICIAL]Bitfinex.com first Bitcoin P2P lending platform for leverage trading on: April 17, 2015, 12:29:45 PM
Didnt explain someone in here before that this has to do with bitfinex running a cron-job only each hour? This job then checks if a swap ended and closes it.

If its handled that way then i think its not good. I cant even see how they will calculate it in a fair way if your swap is hold longer than both parties thought.

I think it has to be more frequently than once per hour - I've not seen longer than about 20mins.

As for calculating the returns... I keep unnecessarily close track of what I expect to receive, and calculating it as if the return is paid for the exact duration of the swap has been successful enough to predict the daily payment to within a few cents of the actual figure (and it isn't all in one direction so it also averages out over time)

So it averages out. The only downside of this would be if someone gives or takes an unusual big swap. Either the taker or the lender will have a disadvantage then. Though that might only be 1/50 of the amount.

Im not sure if the waiting time is the best strategy to lower server use.

I would prefer a more dynamic system anyway. Its not needed to only pay out once a day. Doesnt the taker have to pay instantly too? Otherwise he would be able to play with money he doesnt own anymore. It would be better if payments are moved from taker to lender at the moment the swap closes.
4198  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why so hard to fire people? stupidity or insanity. United Shit of America on: April 17, 2015, 12:18:36 PM
Maybe i understand you wrong but in most european countries you cant be fired because of such things.

And that is the reason why Europe is going down. Look at the countries like Greece. It's going down and other countries are there on it's path.

Why is that? I dont see why its needed. And what exactly has Greek to do with the possibility to fire people?

Saying that... employers still have much ways. If the company needs to they can, and they then chose contracts where this protection isnt there.
4199  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Explorer with Euro Values? on: April 17, 2015, 11:46:20 AM
Where can i change the currency shown? So far the website looks interesting because i need something like a stat showing the incoming money.

you need to click on the value itself to change it

Doesnt work for me. Im on blockr.io but the values arent clickable or if they are they lead to the actual transaction.
4200  Economy / Services / Re: DA DICE Signature Campaign - 'Da' BEST Yet | HIGHEST RATES! | JOIN THE FUN! on: April 17, 2015, 11:34:40 AM
I was making at least 150 posts per week and the last two weeks had made close to 200 posts. I had been asking for higher posting limits for a while too Sad

I really don't see why anyone would need to make 100 posts per week much less 200 posts. To me, that seems rather unnecessary and looks as though you do it just for signature money. There are hero/legendary members who don't post nearly half as much. Apparently, ndnhc and marco have you on a pedestal. Since your posts are "super" constructive, why not apply for a moderator/staff position here?

I look forward to your  200+ posts per week O' wise one!

He was probably making close to or around that before he even joined any sig campaigns. He just advertised his own thread up until a month or so ago. I don't see the correlation between how many posts a Hero or Legendary makes either, and you don't apply to become staff, you get asked if you report a lot of posts and are very active (which he is so maybe he will eventually).

When i have read your post i thought that posting often in the same thread doesnt make much sense marketing wise. You want the signature being seen by many users, not 20 times by the same user. Saying that, most users dont check threads every hour, they check a thread once every day or every two days. Of course i dont speak about the addicted ones. Smiley

So when a user is posting 5 posts in the same thread in one day then its worth is diminished. The ad will be seen by the reader again and again. Though its worth more that many different users see the ads. And you get that by being present in as many threads as possible. So that you can be sure that a user reading is seeing one. Showing him 20 doesnt make him more likely to play there.

Saying that... dadice is present everywhere anywhere. I only thought it might make sense to think about that. I dont know if there are many users who post the majority of their posts in single threads.
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