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I wonder how many of those who requested the USD refund in the beginning actually got it.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but there is no way the Avalon boards are gonna ROI unless they are like 50 bucks a piece.
It's just outdated technology and the difficulty keeps going up.
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You guys should offer NCAA Basketball. March madness coming up...
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So who is willing to provide 0.2 BTC for lawyer downpayment? At current BTC prices we need 10 ppl. If we will not be able to gather crowd large enough the only option we got left is obviously USD refund. I'm ok with with 0.2. Anybody else? EDIT: I have looked again at invoices provided by waldo: http://imgur.com/qIMQ406 . On all of them says payment 100% via BTC... I'm ok with 0.2 if coiningsolutions/waldo/DHJ/RG whoever he is will respond and pick up the torch for his own damn group buy. We need someone with a cool head to manage this, not a hydra. Wheres he at, and most importantly, what's his excuse for ignoring us. That condition must be met before I send the guy anything, but I doubt it will be. Hell, if he spoke to hashfast they same way he spoke to me and others, I dont doubt that they are ignoring his ass. Agree, I'm not gonna send 0.2 to some random dude. And waldo has already made it clear the he wants nothing to do with us or the lawyer. What if the lawyer needs more fees and waldo ignores him? We need someone geographically close to Ray to step up and handle this. Anyone in this GB that lives in NorCal? |
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I have had mine go bad quite a few times but it has always been solved after powering down PSU and letting it rest for bit.
10 minutes all it needs and then it mines at 950.
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after whole day mining at 53:2:950 doing its the same thing, asic timeout. sadly i have to restart my internet connection once a day and this causes this. there is asic timeouts at 48:1:850 and it only starts hashing at 48:1:750 (also hw is 60% so thats no good), so its power related. the psu is fine feeding it and its not usb.  What? Why do you have to reset your connection? due to the FUP of isp 24/7 dl is frowned apon so connected at 23:5/7 Jesus where do you live? North Korea? On topic, do you have to reset the PSU to get it to mine at 950? |
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after whole day mining at 53:2:950 doing its the same thing, asic timeout. sadly i have to restart my internet connection once a day and this causes this. there is asic timeouts at 48:1:850 and it only starts hashing at 48:1:750 (also hw is 60% so thats no good), so its power related. the psu is fine feeding it and its not usb. What? Why do you have to reset your connection? |
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Dr-Exchanger, is it safe to use Skrill? I have heard you can get banned for buying BTC.
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We are never gonna "collectively" be able to gather funds. As you can see the discussion going on here is a joke. We have guys saying we should sue you. The other half just want a USD refund. You left us with only one option ie getting a paritaly refund. That's really lame of you. You never answered my question BTW. How come you can't pay the 1k in advance? You will be able to deduct it later it's not like we are stealing cash from you. Read the above document, you guys discuss a way to collectively gather the funds. If not, our only other option is going to be USD refund.
I disagree that's our only option, our most fair and rational option is to bring you, Waldohoover, to court through class action, collective lawsuit - us against you. You've collected the payments from us, and we are trying to deal with third party instead of dealing with you. This is more the case since you are offering to return only the part of the payments (400 BTC) you've routed to third party, and not willing to return 200 BTC in your possession. Instead of taking the big risk of trying to win against HashFast and get 60% of the 400 BTC = 240 BTC, we could aim for your never-earned 200 BTC and win 100% in the court, they are sitting duck, there's no court on this world which would rule that you don't have to return that to us. Of course we should go for the complete sum Waldo received from us - 600 BTC, and let the court decide if Waldo has to refund us all from his wallet or we have to wait for part of the remaining 400 BTC for him to recover from HashFast. Remember people, Waldo took close to 400.000 US$ from us, and is aiming not to return 1/3 of it based on no grounds, no court in the US will treat that favoring him. I believe he broke a few regulations along the way, but that's for our lawyer to present to court. I've copied the current content of the opening post in case Waldo tries to delete the tracks: http://pastebin.com/3sPftjbDEven if not everybody who is burned by this is willing to sue Waldo, we can always organize partially and leave those who are willing to receive single-digit-percentage charity from Waldo. At this point we need one US-resident group buyer to ask around for a lawyer to protect our interest, this has to be done in the US by the US laws. Get real man we are never gonna be able to sue him. People get away with scamming on this forum everyday. How come no one sues these scammers? |
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lol who is this guy? Ricky Roma? There is no need to start throwing scam accusations just yet. Waldohoover has proven himself. He has been running a KNC mining operation for quite sometime now. He has paying dividends for months. Let's just wait until he gets back. All we want is to get our money back and we are not gonna get it by being hostile toward waldo. The blame should be put on HF first and foremost. But that doesn't mean waldo doesn't have a responsibility to help us getting a proper refund. And for that we need a lawyer. Since HF won't pay us back. I would like to get a few more people discussing our options. Currently it seems like there is two very VOCAL people that are really pissed. I get that but please don't clutter the thread with worthless rants, waldo is just gonna ignore us then. |
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We are not the only group that decided to use a lawyer to get our money back. The DyslexicZombei Batch 1 GB is also going this route: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=296199.0Seems like they are not using Ray though. But notice that DZ doesn't need 1k to continue working on his GB for free. I think it's kinda strange how Waldo can afford to setup a datacenter at home spending thousands of dollars on equipment but can't pay for legal fees? Like someone said: Waldo is free to deduct whatever legal fees the lawyer might ask for when the case is settled. What's the problem man? |
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Waldo to be honest you are bumming me out a bit here.
I understand that you can't pay for everything but I didn't know you were so negative toward hiring a lawyer.
As I understand it you own a bit of these miners yourself right? Would you rather that we go with a USD refund?
Actually with the BTC price falling it might be something to reconsider.
I own 1 tiny share of this group buy so I won't act like some crybaby. So whatever you guys decide I'm fine with it.
But I tell you this: It kinda feels like throwing money down a hole.
First buying 1x share, then 1x MPP, now this. When will it end?
I'm fine with paying a small percentage of the 1k, but as you say the lawyer might ask us for more cash later. All these "fees" are pissing me off.
Maybe you can understand that people are quite pissed?
The fact that so few people has commentated on this worries me. Seems like a lot of people has given up on ever getting there money back.
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So you need $1000 from us?
If itod is right and you charged us 3% in management fee you could use some of that for this deposit.
If it doesn't cover the $1000 I guess our only option would be to split it amongst all shareholders. If anyone refuses to pay just deduct it when they receive their BTC back. (if that happens)
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Same here, WTH?
Well, I'll just try again.
Tell as what happens,but I think that it will be canceled again BTC came through pretty fast actually. All is well, will keep using BTER because Cryptsy suck. |
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Any chance you will be offering silver or gold coins?
I really like the design but would rather buy 1 oz silver coins.
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Same here, WTH?
Well, I'll just try again.
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Yeah same here. Says "pending".
How long does it usually take to withdraw BTC though? It said pending yesterday and nothing happened.
BTER probably has frozen all withdrawals to deal with the bug.
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Any update regarding the blockchain sync issue? Freeworm? Anyone?
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He said delivery will be around the end of February.
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