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421  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling as a profession: there's people who live out of gambling? on: October 06, 2019, 07:28:58 PM
Gambling is an industry that provides jobs to millions of people around the world.
There might be people living off on gambling wins but they'd soon run out of luck and end bankrupt and might even go insane or turn into a criminal.

There is a huge distinction between gambling that provides job opportunities for people AND people who gamble as their main source of income.

In the former, like you mentioned, it provides job opportunities to millions of people around the world. Not only does it contribute to the people but provides revenue for the country as well. The latter, however, is entirely different and significantly risky. They live around the edge wherein their main source of income is based on 70% luck and 30% skill.


It is only person who use money for gambling and they get profit from it. Buying income from gambling is your own choice but having a job is an attractive options as in gambling you will not be sure about gaining profit but in your job you get monthly salary so be with both it saves you from so many financial crises.
422  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why Choose Lottery Instead Of Anything Else? on: October 06, 2019, 06:58:47 PM
Lottery is a unique game if you ask me. The rules are simple, just beat the odds and win the price. You can play it several times but the cost will pile up and there is no guaranteed that you will win next time. But what encourages people to continue playing lottery is the great reward they will get. Imagining that your one-digit bet can make a million worth of money is what makes people love lottery.
Its the most simple gambling game I think but it is the least number of percentage of winnings and that makes it unique compare to other gambling games. One more is that, you don't need skills to bet in lottery. You just need numbers and money then you're good to go. The huge reward in lotteries makes it attractive to gamblers that is why many are still betting on it even they know that the chances of them to win is close to zero.
Yes lottery attract so many people every year they use to get profit from it that’s why yearly increase in number of lottery investor is increasing. I am sure after few years lottery will gain more investor than other investors. Buying lottery is not hard you only have to invest your money and get a ticket then wait for your luck.
423  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money on: October 06, 2019, 03:58:52 PM
Why are we always debating this topic. In general, everyone has the right to their opinions on the money they get from gambling or promoting gambling sites. If it's personally wrong and it's dirty money, then leave it and stay away from gambling and find a better way. So here, every opinion is kept and we are good and have the right to do it, then do it.
everyone is free to argue and this topic is a form of freedom, not to argue but only to discuss and it is good to share each person's perspective on a topic of conversation. if you don't like this topic either, that's fine.
Yeah this forum is for everyone people have permission to talk what they feel about it. Money earning from gambling is one of good money according it to me  When you gamble you will have  ti work hard. Money is good to earn just focus on your goal to become  a good gambler other wise let what people think what they want to think.
424  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Online Cock Fighting on: October 06, 2019, 03:41:08 PM
Hmm.. is this mean I should believe to the operators, jury and cock owner by online?
I will not spend my money on those things, I think it will better I lost my money at blockchain dice than cheated by mr.X via online platform.

The operator's of this online cockfight betting has nothing to do with the jury/judge and cock owner, they just cover the fight so that they can broadcast them live to their viewers. If there is cheating on the fight itself or the judging as you alleged, the operator of the website has nothing to do with it. They just pay the owner of the cockfight arena to broadcast the cockfight activity, nothing more nothing less Wink.
That's right, the telecast if it's being covered from any cockfighting arena can't be manipulates by the site owner, it's the actual fight inside and no one can say what will be the fate of any cock when fighting. You need to be lucky whenever you bet. If the the game will be available there's no chance to change anything.
the site owner is only a third party, the "cockfighting" organizer is the one doing it on the spot. If there is any fraud that means it will not be done by the site owner. I understand how "cockfighting" the chicken owner will never want to lose either. like you said, luck is the key.
For sure no body wants to lose it to lose cock but the problem is one of them. Will be the winner and The one who will train his cock well to fight will win. Cock fighting is really fun based betting, not only two gamblers but the surrounded people also enjoy a from it. I saw a cock fight recently and i really had fun from it.
425  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What's most important to you in a crypto betting platform? on: October 06, 2019, 03:04:26 PM
For me personally, the most important aspects are:
1. decentralized blockchain system 2. Certified software 3. Provably fairness 4. High-quality customer support 5. Instant transactions
Crypto is good in all this you have mentioned all good qualities of crypto. People likes to gamble with crypto because it is the most fair and satisfactory investment. Crypto has so many good features that we can use to earn double income from it. We should use it so the system will expand and makes profit with fast transacting ability.
426  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Buy now or wait for Bitcoin? on: October 05, 2019, 09:51:51 AM
Hi all,

I want to invest some money in Bitcoin (long term investment)
It's better wait the next fall down (like the situation on December/January), or buy now?
Otherwise fixing a target for example 7000 or 8000 $ and buy in that moment?

Thank you in advance for your suggestion


I suggest to buy now bitcoin or invest in bitcoin right now because the price of bitcoin is falling down and this is the great chance to buy and invest because when it pump again you will have a large profit, your 8,000 $ you can buy 1btc on that and when the price of bitcoin increase and goes to 10,000$ above you will earn a lot of profit.
Totally agree with you buddy, now is best time to invest your money in bitcoin because just after few years the price of bitcoin will be above $30k. It will increase more but now a price is low we can afford it. Better now get opportunity and buy now those who are not buying will be regret tomorrow when time will be gone.
427  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Do Not Trade By The News, Follow The Price Action on: October 05, 2019, 09:23:03 AM
I totally understand your opinion but I think economic news is still a perfect plus point in trading, maybe when you trade it is not as reasonable as theory, trading in technical analysis is practical. and more useful but it is a tool to help you avoid unnecessary mistakes.
In my opinion, I think you should combine these two skills together by selecting the useful news for you. Please follow the price action of the market.
Yes as you are not sure if the person you are taking advice from is going to given you fair advice or not. So better look in your market if the market gives you a sign of high price then you can sell but if the market does not give you any good sign then hold but don’t panic just by listening to wrong or bad news better focus on your skills.
428  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Daily trade Vs long trade on: October 05, 2019, 08:43:01 AM
I am a newbie of trading so i don't have proper knowledge about trading. But honestly i want to be a trader. But first time which trading is best for me daily or long term?
Thanks in advance.     
Daily trade vs long trade? I prefer daily trading because in daily trading you can earn more because as we all know every minute or every hours coins at dumping and pumping so in day trading you can earn a lot than the usual earnings. If you want to become a real trader study first on how it occur and what trading is.
Daily trading is good but for me its much better to trade long term as i am new so I want long term trading and it gives me safety and experience. When you trade for long term you will be confident about growth of your trading and nothing will give you stress to keep on checking the market price so if you are new or you have lack of knowledge better try long term trading.
429  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Savings Vs Investment? on: October 05, 2019, 07:46:21 AM
The traditional norms made us believe that savings are a safe option to store your wealth.
But is it true now?
With inflation, we all know that the prices of the wealth we have kept in our savings account will decrease. What is the use of saving when ultimately we are not even able to enjoy what we have been saving for years?
The smarter option?
Investment! Investment is not gambling if done rightly. Very often we see people not putting too much effort into learning and jumping into FOMO. They don’t have enough guidance that will help them to invest better.

I agree with this because saving is little risk but the money you have put in saving wont grow unlike investment that there is a risk it depends on kind of investments you have but if you know what to do there is a potential that your investments will grow and become double with in a year.
Exactly it is useless to save your money but investing it can give you profit. If you save Your money so long even then it will remain the same but if you will invest it so it will increase and make profit for you. You should invest your money or makes money more than double. Waiting will be reward but try to invest in safe site avoid scamming
430  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin seems to be going up rapidly this morning on: October 05, 2019, 07:10:37 AM
Within the last few hours, Bitcoin has gone up $500 and still seems to be going up. Anyone have any speculation as to why? Looking at the 1day chart, I don't see any indication that the price would be going up today. 
There is a rapid change in the price most of the time and when the price of bitcoin went down a lot in the past few days i did not expect the market to recover this fast but the price recovered as people are investing during that time and taking use of the opportunity to invest when ever the price goes down and that is what we are seeing now, let us see how the market will perform in the next few weeks.
But i was sure about it I was well aware of nature of bitcoin. I know when it falls then it recovers too. We should believe in potential of bitcoin and support it. Never give up market just falls temporary but then again rise. So I expect even more than this that price of Altcoins will go higher than this till end of 2019 market will be fine.
431  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Most Promising Cryptocurrencies to Invest in 2019 on: October 05, 2019, 06:23:11 AM
Its good to invest in other coins aside from btc. For now, I have btc and eth. I still believe btc is the best crypto to invest in 2019.
Both of them are good coins we can invest our money in bitcoin and in ETH it has good market value. Bitcoin is first digital coin so for this people trust it the most. There is no doubt about the growth and progress of bitcoin. I am sure in 2019 price of bitcoin will be very high that every investor will prefer investing their money in bitcoin.
432  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Want to learn trading on: October 05, 2019, 05:51:10 AM
Hello guys! Well, I have known about crypto for a while, but never really gone into trading.
Recently I got an interest in crypto trading but didn't know anything about it. So, If anyone here can guide me from where to start and learn about trading?
Do tell me if there is any course available online, free or paid? Maybe in Udemy?
Would be a real help. Thanks!
There are many available articles and videos online to know the basics about trading, just research those and you'll understsnd slowly how things work as being a trader.

In my experience I learned by watching videos on youtube and by the help of someone who guide me throughout my journey as a newbie.

I started with small amount when I tried my first trade and its not easy as it seems you need to have plan and strategy in order to do it right.
Yeah we can learn trading by any way as there are a lot of options we can read those articles and we can use YouTube also there are so many social sites which gives guideline about trading. New traders should only have pay once and never be emotional about investing your money. Just never think about panic and trade for long term.
433  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Where to invest my $1300 USD? on: October 05, 2019, 05:22:47 AM
With a capital of $ 1,300 I think you can start by trading daily by buying some Altcoin that has a high volume on the Exchange, I recommend on the Exchange Binance. But you must divide into 3-5 parts of your capital, do not put eggs in one basket.
You are right but better to invest only in single coin that you know is profitable for you. Bitcoins and Eth are good coins they have good market value and it has ability to increase faster in price. I hope after few months we can see changes so now is best time to buy and keep holding. Never give up focus and stick with your investments.
434  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Which one you buy Bitcoin or Ethereum? on: October 04, 2019, 09:11:16 PM
There is no choice for me because I will choose and buy both, because investing in Bitcoin or Ethereum is very profitable and but I am more dominant in bitcoin on the grounds that bitcoin is more profitable because lately the movement of bitcoin is still in good condition.
the most important thing is to buy it when the price goes down and resell it when the price is high to get the maximum profit.
No one is actually willing to lose everyone wants profit.  If you have amount you can invest as much you desire to invest, gradual holding at fallen market helps to prevent lose and make money. We don’t know when this Dip going to end but we only  can hope to keep holding or making money, price of bitcoin is good and ETH is also good we can buy them cheaper.
435  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: 5 Reasons why I am buying Bitcoin!! on: October 04, 2019, 08:11:28 PM
You have some valid points there but there is one point that I am not in agreement with, which is the Facebook coin, and I cannot seems to link it to why Facebook coin is motivating you to buy bitcoin, because I am not praying for this coin to survive, yes it will serve as speed for market cap of altcoins, but what of bitcoin, Facebook has millions of people that does not know what cryptocurrency is which means they know nothing about bitcoin.

Agree with you, that libra has nothing to do with bitcoin it's just that they are both cryptocurrency. Even the two coin systems are different where libra is centralized. And also libra can indeed be a bitcoin threat in future if Facebook pumps these coins on a large scale because they have billions of active users.
Yeah no doubt bitcoin is the best investment, it has high value in market people trust bitcoin the most because it is an old coin since long it is in market and mother of all coins. Bitcoin has best allot of investors it is having good scope in eyes of investors people found it profitable to hold.  Right now the price is low so at low price we can buy double it has huge increasing ability.
436  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Suggest me a good coin to invest in. on: October 04, 2019, 07:32:30 PM
Try Artis token  Smiley Artis Turba launched it's own cryptocurrency named ARTIS on the Ethereum blockchain. There is 350,000,000 ARTIS in total created and no more will ever be created. The details of ARTIS can be viewed on the Ethereum Blockchain. ARTIS like Bitcoin and Ethereum can be traded on cryptocurrency exchanges and provides a specific utility. We call this utility the "Artis Affiliate Reward Program" (AARP) which entitles ARTIS holders to a pro-rata share of 50% of the trading fee revenue generated on Artis Turba.

To enable AARP, all you need to do is own and HODL (hold on for dear life) your ARTIS in your Artis Turba account. The earnings are automatically credited to your account daily based on the last 24-Hour's trading volume. Up to date data can be viewed on the AARP page. ARTIS on sell orders do not qualify for AARP earnings since the payout references the available balance.

https://www.artisturba.com/cms/how-it-works
Yes  now a day is good time after holding in 2020 the coin will have huge pump, best time to buy the coin. Now the potential of bitcoin and ETH which has good profit.  Good coins are now these which has good market value like, buy now and hold for this year $8k price is suitable to buy it has increasing it will continue till 2020.
437  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Savings Vs Investment? on: October 03, 2019, 07:55:22 PM
I know a few of my friends that keep more money in investments than savings and for me the tisk is too high. If your savings of say 5 years are kept in crypto and the price drops 90% and you panic sell then that is on you. Maybe a long term crypto investment that acts as savings could be a safer bet but a majority will not play long term and be too emotional with every trade.

You should always have some savings in fiat, just incase any life expenses pop up - and the always do eventually.
if we were a businessman, I don't think we would be able to choose one of them. saving, and investing are related. like the return on investment, we need to save a few percents for the future, or something else. if we only make investments, it will be very risky, especially when our investments do not go well. deposits are needed when our investment is not going well. therefore, in business, try to save 40% of the money you have, and the rest to invest. it looks pretty good, right?
Yes in everything you will have both you will have to spend some amount and some will have to save.  Best way to make money is spare some amount to hold until it increases but in from of investment. Right now we should have faith in making investment but in crypto. Holding some money for daily needs is good.
438  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Looking for everyone's thoughts on: October 03, 2019, 07:18:45 PM
Hi Everyone

I am looking for what people are thinking would be a good rate to invest in Bitcoin at.

Obviously, this will be a low rate, but I have seen some say that as low as 1BC=$13.5k, is this plausible?

Thanks for the input.

In my opinion, the value of bitcoin is $ 16k in 2020 and now is a good time to buy and hold. trade will only make you more tired.
Although the value of bitcoin has dropped quite deeply and now it is only $ 8k1. Besides, it is still in a downward trend, but I still believe that the halving event will save it from the bear market and the whole market will enjoy big pump next year.
Market will pump up this year we know price of the coins will be highly improve but still yes it will take time. 8k $ is not so high price I think now buying can give us profit later on price will be so high and unaffordable. Gradually increasing price is a sign that yes we should invest now is best time to get benefit of falling market.
439  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: This will help to improve your trading on: October 03, 2019, 12:03:28 PM
even if new traders read this tips 100 times they will commit mistakes only experience will teach what this tips really mean , experience is the best teacher and it will teach us everything , only thing new traders should remember is not to repeat those mistakes again and again

At least, they can get a new experience from the tips. No matter if they cannot make a profit, if they still trying, I am sure in the future, they can make a profit and some time, their profit will bigger than us. I agree that experience is the best teacher because with the experience, we can handle every problem that might happen and we can solve the problem.

I think with we making a mistake, that will help to improve our trading skills and who knows, we will be better to trade by that mistake. Usually, if we make a mistake, we can analyze what is wrong with our trade, so if we can find the mistake, I think we can get time to solve the problem, and that will help us in trading.

We must improve our trading skill from time to time because that is what we should do in trading and if we want to make a bigger profit, we need to keep learning from many sources.
  Right our experience is our teacher which has the ability to make us good trader other wise all traders are the same they will make mistakes and they will have to face the risk. It’s not only about listening or reading those tips from other traders until you try them and show how much will power you have to learn best tip given by you is not to walk on wrong way again and again, learn from your mistake and keep trading never give up, avoid panic.

If we can learn from the experience, I am sure that we can improve the skills that will help us in the future. With the improvement of the skills, it's really mean for us to reach the goals to make a profit. We can learn from the other trader's tips, and I am sure that will give us a big chance to increase the profit amount.

I realize that improving our skills in trading is not easy because it needs to have the patience to learn from them. Usually, we need time to understand the point of the lesson so we can try to practice what we've got.
Exactly trading is not an easy thing that you can make profit without doing anything, better just write down all your gain and failure and notice your mistakes so it will help you allot to gamble next time profitably. Traders should never say that he has become an expert because even expert traders are knowledge seekers.
440  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The Things That Comes Into Your Mind When Winning... on: October 03, 2019, 10:29:42 AM
When I get a lot of money from what I have done, my first thought is about business development. well I might like that, for whatever reason, when I have a lot of money, I just always think of the business. unfortunately in gambling, I have never really gotten a big profit. maybe the second thing, and the third thing I will think about is, I might try to repeat that. I could get the same benefits.
When you really want it make your all dream come true just keep your money save, the problem is when people start winning they become greedy so they invest again and again the huge amount. As we know in gambling we can win and lose so at first earning you will have to take break. Gradual earning is better than lose its my thinking by the way
Yeah agree with you, we should control our greed and emotions just need to focus on our gambling skills. One time lose should be use as lesson so next Time there will be no lose patience is key of success in every field. I win but I never bet again at single try infect I keep holding and save my first earning then try again with new place and with small amount for 2nd try.
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