This kind of things are waste of resources.

Tv's doesn't made for mining bitcoin. They will mine very little amount and in return will broken in very short time.

This is crazy amount of Money.

And i don't think they are counting envion. Which is a shitshow right now and raised 100m $ only by itself.

I know it was on december 2017 after dump

But before, i had no idea. And most of the people was like me.

I don't know when will it happen but it will happen evantually.

We all hate the situation right now but we need to be patient.

Yeah you are very right.

There is some icos, saying that their product will be ready in 4 years or etc.

Just do the ico after product is ready, don't be gready.

Ico without whitepaper = run to the hills and never look back.

Even scam icos have some kind of whitepapers. So i won't lay finger anything that doesn't have it.

dump and pump group? In stocks.exchange

It is way unlikely. There is literally no volume there.

If he use otc for that, or acted more patient he could have 2-3 validators

I don't think it is about that. There was very little sem on sale and someone played a little.

Who told you we are still sane after this times?

I think i am in a new level of insanity. I don't feel a thing while loosing thousands of dollars in a day. I don't think this is normal.

Last time i checked (3-4 weeks ago) there wasn't a problem about it.

But crypto is a fast World, everything can change just in a second.

You are asking a 50k$ worth of decision

Just trust yourself, because no-one would care this decision like you do.

I hate this when they didn't told at the first place. Most of the time i think that they don't want to give out bounty and with asking kyc at the end, trying to decrease the budget. Because not everybody passing the kyc.

I open bounties part on bitcointalk and start checking threads like everybody doing.

I don't think too much different alternative out there.

Unfortunately if you want to join a good ico you have to do a kyc.

Nowadays only scam projects doesn't require it. Very sad actually.

After months finally it will be listed on 10th.

I wonder what will be the price. Because of the long waiting period it can start below ico price.

Web wallet seems too lite.

I would prefer a desktop wallet for using it. Saw too many projects get hacked because of online wallets.

You have 2 ways to log-in.

If you have private key, you are good.

If you have json file with pass, you are good.

If you have both, you are good.


If you don't have neither, that means you won't see your tokens again.

Are there people still saying that?

Well, i would probably say nothing and leave. Don't like to talk with ignorant people.

Waves is a dead blockchain. Maybe has great features but people didn't like it.

Check any waves token, they are all worthless.

It just ended, and bulls not even come yet. It is only stable.

So no bear market soon. Please…