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421  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] US/North American Bitfury sales now open ***full prototype pics*** on: November 12, 2013, 06:52:38 PM
I got my unit running with bfgminer, the only thing I could get chainminer to do was output

"M-Board version 2 detected
INIT: 256 chips detected"

Now I'm having issues with bfgminer outputting this, and the hashrate dropping.

[2013-11-12 00:05:02] BSB 2bm: bitfury_init_oldbuf: Giving up after 4 tries
[2013-11-12 00:05:02] BSB 2bn: bitfury_init_oldbuf: Giving up after 4 tries
[2013-11-12 00:05:02] BSB 2bo: bitfury_init_oldbuf: Giving up after 4 tries
[2013-11-12 00:05:02] BSB 2bp: bitfury_init_oldbuf: Giving up after 4 tries
...

I'd get those errors if I let bfgminer initialize the cards with the clock set to 53.  I turned it down to 52 and it's been running without issue for nearly 3 days:



See this post for details.



  still not work and got 100% HW errorrs.  I got see too many BSB like bsb0 to bsb24 but I got only 6 Hboards that fun part.
422  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] US/North American Bitfury sales now open ***full prototype pics*** on: November 12, 2013, 05:06:45 PM
I got my unit running with bfgminer, the only thing I could get chainminer to do was output

"M-Board version 2 detected
INIT: 256 chips detected"

Now I'm having issues with bfgminer outputting this, and the hashrate dropping.

[2013-11-12 00:05:02] BSB 2bm: bitfury_init_oldbuf: Giving up after 4 tries
[2013-11-12 00:05:02] BSB 2bn: bitfury_init_oldbuf: Giving up after 4 tries
[2013-11-12 00:05:02] BSB 2bo: bitfury_init_oldbuf: Giving up after 4 tries
[2013-11-12 00:05:02] BSB 2bp: bitfury_init_oldbuf: Giving up after 4 tries
...

I'd get those errors if I let bfgminer initialize the cards with the clock set to 53.  I turned it down to 52 and it's been running without issue for nearly 3 days:



See this post for details.

   maybe I will do it again with 52 if thing will run ok.
423  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] US/North American Bitfury sales now open ***full prototype pics*** on: November 12, 2013, 01:56:17 PM
but putting in one night of work and calling it Bad is sortof shortsighted...

 To be absolutely clear, I'm not calling anything bad. Just a bit surprised that we seem to collectively be having some trouble getting these v3 rigs humming along, stably.

 Eagerly awaiting updates and info on how to get our babies nice and happy.
  try to run only test on bad hboad alone if hboard isnt working that meant bad.
424  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] US/North American Bitfury sales now open ***full prototype pics*** on: November 12, 2013, 03:09:48 AM
Something definitely seems amiss with these kits.

 I received 32 H-Cards, and 2 M-Boards. 1 M-Board is DOA and have filled an RMA request with MBP.

 I've swapped out several H-Cards in slots that had their hash-rate go from full to zero, and even new sealed H-Cards start slowing down and approach 0 GHs in the same slots.
 
 Best I can tell, at least 2 H-Cards are completely DOA, and having sad-times getting a full M-Board hashing steady above 500.

 Fuck Sad

 Will let it run for a few hours and see how things look a bit later...

EDIT: Well, that went to zero quickly... Fuck. Eg: Swapped slot 1 and 2 for new H-Cards...

speed:13568 noncerate[GH/s]:351.042 (1.371/chip) hashrate[GH/s]:367.538 good:24520 errors:8994 spi-err:60 miso-err:125 duplicates:111 jobs:262 cores:24% good:256 bad:0 off:0 (best[GH/s]:0.000) Tue Nov 12 02:52:05 2013
board-2 speed   nrate   hrate   good    errors  spi-err miso-er duplic  good    bad     off     per chip        good cores
0:      848     34.245  35.863  2392    120     0       0       0       16      0       0       (2.140/chip)    31%
1:      848     0.000   0.000   0       0       0       0       0       16      0       0       (0.000/chip)    8%      speed down
2:      848     0.000   0.000   0       0       0       0       0       16      0       0       (0.000/chip)    8%
3:      848     35.391  36.687  2472    3       1       0       0       16      0       0       (2.212/chip)    33%
4:      848     0.000   0.000   0       0       0       0       0       16      0       0       (0.000/chip)    13%
5:      848     32.556  34.499  2274    124     0       0       0       16      0       0       (2.035/chip)    31%
6:      848     34.961  37.417  2442    138     1       0       0       16      0       0       (2.185/chip)    32%
7:      848     0.000   0.000   0       0       0       0       0       16      0       0       (0.000/chip)    10%
8:      848     34.145  36.846  2385    124     0       0       0       16      0       0       (2.134/chip)    31%
9:      848     34.474  35.937  2408    67      1       0       0       16      0       0       (2.155/chip)    32%
A:      848     35.290  36.613  2465    47      1       0       0       16      0       0       (2.206/chip)    33%
B:      848     37.767  36.656  2638    9       2       0       0       16      0       0       (2.360/chip)    34%
C:      848     34.832  35.683  2433    14      0       0       0       16      0       0       (2.177/chip)    33%
D:      848     35.691  36.201  2493    3       0       0       0       16      0       0       (2.231/chip)    33%
E:      848     0.000   0.803   0       7788    0       0       6       16      0       0       (0.000/chip)    11%
F:      848     1.689   4.334   118     557     54      125     105     16      0       0       (0.106/chip)    7%



  look like your last Hboard very bad with i/o error F:      848     1.689   4.334   118     557     54      125     105     16      0       0       (0.106/chip)    7%
425  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] US/North American Bitfury sales now open ***full prototype pics*** on: November 12, 2013, 02:50:47 AM
Okay I want to brainstorm my ideas a little bit.
Here's what I am going to do. I am thinking of decoupling the voltage regulator from the PCB since it causes so much overheating issues. It will reduce board BOM and hopefully faster turnaround by PCB manufacturer.

I am planning to use multiples of this regulator since the output can be paralleled (~$55 e.a.)

http://www.intersil.com/en/tools/reference-designs/isl8225meval3z.html


a) Order chips ($25 ea on megabigpower.com)
b) Order decoupling capacitors for ASICs
c) Get PCB made and assembled by the PCB company (only solder ASIC + decoupling caps. No need to solder voltage regulator section)
d) Order Voltage regulators
e) Test assembled cards
f) Mine
g) If successful, sell to interested parties Wink


You'll have no margins for profit if chips are $25 ea.  That's $400 for the ASICs alone.

And I think it's generally expected when MGP and BFSB started selling H boards again they're going to have to price them at less than $300 per board or they'll generate very little interest.

Lets say I do it without any profit margins, just for the community at first.

   by time you got pcb and chip price for Jan. 2014 like 5.00 per chip.
426  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [100 TH] Slush's Pool (mining.bitcoin.cz); TX FEES + UserDiff; ASIC tested on: November 12, 2013, 01:50:06 AM
It seems I'm getting daily payouts, not 15 minute payouts. I guess I don't understand the full workings of the payout system. Or Slush holds our coins for a certain period... just speculating...?


er my slush account pays out confirmed stuff every 4 coins...as to payout per day I just go by the ave which right now on a Jupiter at 550gh is .49 or some such on slush

probably I'm missing the boat on what you mean


   grats to you and did you get all your miners now or still on BFL waiting list?
427  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [100 TH] Slush's Pool (mining.bitcoin.cz); TX FEES + UserDiff; ASIC tested on: November 12, 2013, 01:49:15 AM
It seems I'm getting daily payouts, not 15 minute payouts. I guess I don't understand the full workings of the payout system. Or Slush holds our coins for a certain period... just speculating...?

   paid use to be fast but now no idea why so long now.
428  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] US/North American Bitfury sales now open ***full prototype pics*** on: November 12, 2013, 01:27:50 AM
Does anyone know what this means? I'm having to restart bfgminer around every 5-10 minutes.

[2013-11-12 01:14:15] BSB 3cc: bitfury_init_oldbuf: Giving up after 4 tries
[2013-11-12 01:14:15] BSB 3cd: bitfury_init_oldbuf: Giving up after 4 tries
[2013-11-12 01:14:15] BSB 3ce: bitfury_init_oldbuf: Giving up after 4 tries
[2013-11-12 01:14:15] BSB 3cf: bitfury_init_oldbuf: Giving up after 4 tries
[2013-11-12 01:14:15] BSB 3cg: bitfury_init_oldbuf: Giving up after 4 tries
[2013-11-12 01:14:15] BSB 3ch: bitfury_init_oldbuf: Giving up after 4 tries
[2013-11-12 01:14:15] BSB 3ci: bitfury_init_oldbuf: Giving up after 4 tries
[2013-11-12 01:14:15] BSB 3cj: bitfury_init_oldbuf: Giving up after 4 tries
[2013-11-12 01:14:15] BSB 3ck: bitfury_init_oldbuf: Giving up after 4 tries
[2013-11-12 01:14:15] BSB 3cl: bitfury_init_oldbuf: Giving up after 4 tries

   you sure not use BGFMINER and not working well with Hboards.
429  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] US/North American Bitfury sales now open ***full prototype pics*** on: November 12, 2013, 12:22:48 AM
.stat.log doesn't exist because chainminer isn't working right, not the other way around. Try running chainminer directly like this, to see if it gives any explanation for not working:
Code:
sudo killall -q miner ; cd /run/shm ; sudo /opt/bitfury/chainminer/miner

 Thanks. Turns out I had a few problems;

 1) miner was not built.
 2) so far 1 bad hboard out of 32. Will get the second rig up-and-running later this evening.
 3) Here's the results of getting a rig to work :| Big-ass fan blowing on it... 850W power supply.

speed:13568 noncerate[GH/s]:242.265 (0.946/chip) hashrate[GH/s]:263.596 good:16922 errors:7916 spi-err:8 miso-err:27 duplicates:1450 jobs:284 cores:8% good:256 bad:0 off:0 (best[GH/s]:0.000) Mon Nov 11 23:55:21 2013
board-2 speed   nrate   hrate   good    errors  spi-err miso-er duplic  good    bad     off     per chip        good cores
0:      848     33.057  35.821  2309    273     1       1       35      16      0       0       (2.066/chip)    17%
1:      848     3.908   4.154   273     137     0       2       23      16      0       0       (0.244/chip)    2%
2:      848     10.279  11.109  718     176     0       1       36      16      0       0       (0.642/chip)    6%
3:      848     4.667   5.570   326     177     0       2       36      16      0       0       (0.292/chip)    3%
4:      848     5.927   6.617   414     179     0       1       61      16      0       0       (0.370/chip)    3%
5:      848     24.882  25.103  1738    354     0       2       37      16      0       0       (1.555/chip)    13%
6:      848     22.763  24.067  1590    319     2       2       61      16      0       0       (1.423/chip)    12%
7:      848     23.107  23.856  1614    365     0       3       82      16      0       0       (1.444/chip)    12%
8:      848     8.891   9.766   621     498     1       1       104     16      0       0       (0.556/chip)    5%
9:      848     13.443  15.072  939     544     0       1       102     16      0       0       (0.840/chip)    7%
A:      848     12.642  14.628  883     668     0       4       137     16      0       0       (0.790/chip)    7%
B:      848     3.923   5.073   274     644     0       2       95      16      0       0       (0.245/chip)    2%
C:      848     8.275   9.861   578     691     2       2       165     16      0       0       (0.517/chip)    5%
D:      848     16.407  18.032  1146    766     0       2       145     16      0       0       (1.025/chip)    9%
E:      848     30.881  33.601  2157    944     0       0       153     16      0       0       (1.930/chip)    16%
F:      848     19.213  21.266  1342    1181    2       1       178     16      0       0       (1.201/chip)    10%


Got a long night of troubleshooting ahead Sad


  Your errors overkill more than 50% and if you are not going to run 850W with 2 full kits.
430  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] US/North American Bitfury sales now open ***full prototype pics*** on: November 11, 2013, 11:23:22 PM
I got two full rigs today. One is running at 225 Gh and the other is running at 0 Gh.


 Glad to know it's not just me Sad

  You need to start  one at time to check for bad Hboard.
431  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] US/North American Bitfury sales now open ***full prototype pics*** on: November 11, 2013, 11:22:08 PM
I got two full rigs today. One is running at 225 Gh and the other is running at 0 Gh.


 Glad to know it's not just me Sad

  here good section to read https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=287590.0


   I got 2 Hboards stop working yesterday.


ps: did anyone return bad hboards to Dave for replacement and I got 2 Hboards for replacement and need to return bad Hboards to Dave.  I am waiting for information to return bad hboard for long time now.
432  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] US/North American Bitfury sales now open ***full prototype pics*** on: November 10, 2013, 03:06:13 PM
Tried to compile bfgminer and ran into a wall here:
"Could not find HASH_ITER - please install uthash-dev"

This was near the end when running:
./configure --enable-bfsb

Must've forgotten to include that in the dependencies...my post with the instructions has been updated.

Quote
Went ahead and tried cgminer and got it to compile, but it could not detect the bitfury (I am on a V1 M-board).

cgminer doesn't support these boards.

That said, now that I'm near my mining rig for testing, I'm trying to get bfgminer running stable on it.  It runs for a few minutes, getting ~80 GH/s out of my two boards (and another 11 from the BFL hardware also plugged in), but then it starts throwing a bunch of errors in a loop.  I think it's trying to drive the chips too hard by default.  If I change the oscillator setting for each chip from whatever default bfgminer is picking to 52, the hashrate falls back to ~68 GH/s (close to what chainminer was delivering).  So far it's still running as I write this. 

Looking at the bfgminer source code, we find this in driver-bfsb.c, in bfsb_init():

Code:
                bitfury_init_chip(proc);
                bitfury->osc6_bits = 53;
                bitfury_send_reinit(bitfury->spi, bitfury->slot, bitfury->fasync, bitfury->osc6_bits);
                bitfury_init_freq_stat(&bitfury->chip_stat, 52, 56);

I think it's starting with 53 and then setting itself to adjust later between 52 and 56.  Without heatsinks, though, my rig isn't stable at 53 long enough for this mechanism to kick in, so I'm better off fixing it to run at 52:

Code:
                bitfury_init_chip(proc);
                bitfury->osc6_bits = 52;
                bitfury_send_reinit(bitfury->spi, bitfury->slot, bitfury->fasync, bitfury->osc6_bits);
                bitfury_init_freq_stat(&bitfury->chip_stat, 52, 52);

AFAICT there is no way to set this in bfgminer.conf.  You can edit chip speeds at runtime, but the only way to make this setting permanent for now is to edit and recompile the source.

Here's a screenshot of bfgminer in action...currently at 10 minutes, and the ASICs are running in the mid-40s according to the temperature probe I have on one of them:


I was trying to test run bfgminer for 6 Hboards but not good and I got like 100% HW.

433  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] US/North American Bitfury sales now open ***full prototype pics*** on: November 10, 2013, 12:03:58 AM
i was getting overlapping ip addresses.  i have my router set on dhcp but i've noticed that altho each raspi is supposed to let itself be assigned a new address each time on connection w/o any overlap from other BF's, some time it does and some times it doesn't.

I have no idea what the motivation was behind using DHCP to find the subnet and then just ignore the result and try grabbing .249 on it.  Why not just let DHCP do its job?  Any halfway-decent router's web interface will show you what devices are where; finding your rig's IP address is trivial.

As shipped, /etc/network/interfaces looks something like this after it's booted up once and found an address:

Code:
auto lo

iface lo inet loopback
auto eth0
iface eth0 inet static
address 192.168.100.249
netmask 255.255.255.0
gateway 192.168.100.1

allow-hotplug wlan0
iface wlan0 inet manual
wpa-roam /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf

up route add default gw 192.168.100.1 eth0
dns-nameservers 192.168.100.1 8.8.8.8

Something like this will just get out of the way and let DHCP do its job.  If you want the rig at a certain IP address, create a DHCP reservation for it.  More importantly, this will let DNS do its job so you can refer to the rig by its hostname (which you probably want to set to something sensible with raspi-config, BTW).

Code:
auto lo

iface lo inet loopback
auto eth0
iface eth0 inet dhcp

allow-hotplug wlan0
auto wlan0
#iface wlan0 inet manual
#wpa-roam /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf

This is for a wired network.  For WiFi, follow one of the many guides out there on getting WiFi working on a Raspberry Pi.


   I think sd image came with most of time 10.x.x.x ip from test run and I think sure change back to to auto DHCP.
434  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] US/North American Bitfury sales now open ***full prototype pics*** on: November 09, 2013, 09:05:57 PM
.05 BTC to the guy who helps me reimage 2 corrupt SD cards back to latest Chainminer.

pm me.

i actually have another SD card with a good image on it so it should just be a matter of copying it over.
   You better off not use sd for FS but you can usb flash for FS and use work better.
435  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] US/North American Bitfury sales now open ***full prototype pics*** on: November 09, 2013, 08:40:13 AM
That did it    Shocked ITS WORKING Shocked

PM me an address and I'll shoot you a tip.  Thanks again!  Now I'm off to convert this to a BFG bitfury.


You were right too - Work settings work but this router has funny defaults in it which it why it wasn't seeming to work. 




 you have to look at /etc/network for file interfaces and you need to change ip in the interfaces file.
436  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] US/North American Bitfury sales now open ***full prototype pics*** on: November 07, 2013, 06:17:20 PM
Got mine up and running, but while the web interface indicates 70 GH/s (with two H-boards), BTC Guild is only seeing about 24 GH/s.  Last night, I noticed that the locally-indicated hashrate was jumping all around.  I have a high-flow 120mm fan blowing across the boards, but don't yet have heatsinks installed.  Am I seeing thermal throttling as a result?  I have a bunch of heatsinks on order, but it'll be a while before they arrive. Since previous versions were designed to run at a slower rate with just air movement and no heatsinks, is there a temporary adjustment I can make to at least get 40-50 GH/s out of my rig while I'm waiting? 

   You can read more here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=287590.0
437  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] US/North American Bitfury sales now open ***full prototype pics*** on: November 07, 2013, 03:42:52 PM
I probably have the biggest boner on the forums at this moment in time :| Got shipping notification ! Thanks Dave !!!

   Grats and I think you may get it Friday if your miners are shippping out today.
438  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] US/North American Bitfury sales now open ***full prototype pics*** on: November 06, 2013, 12:42:38 PM
Yeah so that one board is still bad.  Keeps shutting itself off even if I downclock it so the onboard temps are only 30-40C.  I guess I'll have to talk to dave about RMAing it.  This happens no matter what slot it's in.

Same thing happened to me, chips were cool enough. Turned out that the power regulator was too hot, despite heatsinks (I measured 90°C with IR-Thermometer). I moved the 3 fans from the top to the side of the regulator, which helped a lot. Now my 10 Boards are stable at 345-355 GH/s.
Aren't these new H-cards supposed to have trim pots that would allow you to reduce the voltage output of the regulator? The voltage preset at the factory may just be a little too high for your operating environment. This symptom was common with the August H-cards if you "over pencil mod" them. I have yet to receive my Oct kits, but if this were to happen to mine I would try reducing the voltage a little on those cards that were shutting down.
   Yes, newer Hboard got SMD trim pot on it.
439  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] US/North American Bitfury sales now open ***full prototype pics*** on: November 06, 2013, 03:21:50 AM
Code:
bad      off     per chip        good cores
0:      848     35.892  37.522  2507    76      4       0       0       16     00       (2.243/chip)    34%
1:      848     36.307  37.491  2536    15      0       0       0       16     00       (2.269/chip)    35%
2:      848     27.431  27.946  1916    134     16      5       2       16     00       (1.714/chip)    30%
4:      848     35.720  36.708  2495    68      2       0       0       16     00       (2.232/chip)    34%
5:      848     37.180  37.152  2597    14      1       0       0       16     00       (2.324/chip)    35%
6:      848     38.898  38.917  2717    8       2       0       0       16     00       (2.431/chip)    36%
8:      848     33.000  34.309  2305    82      4       0       0       16     00       (2.062/chip)    32%
9:      848     33.529  36.698  2342    82      1       0       0       16     00       (2.096/chip)    32%
A:      848     0.000   0.000   0       0       0       0       0       16     00       (0.000/chip)    9%      speed down
C:      848     35.648  36.793  2490    16      1       0       0       16     00       (2.228/chip)    34%

So, yeah, I have 1 bad H-board it appears.  It throttles down for about 15 minutes and then just goes to 0 GH/s

Uh, are these still covered under warranty if I heatsinked the back, Dave?

Edit: This is interesting, a second board just did the same thing. :|

   Your Hboard maybe overheat that why Hboard shutdown and you need better cooling. 
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The slots are no longer labeled "A1 A2" etc, rather now they are just 0 1 2 3 .. E F

My bad performing card is in slot 7 and I haven't tried to the other slots out yet

edit: Slot 7 card just died, I will move it to a new slot and see if it hashes any better there

2nd edit: Okay, there ARE banks, they just arent labeled on the PCB.  Messing around with trying them in different banks now

  Did you use fan on Hboards?
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