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421  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Misconceptions of Israeli Culture on: August 04, 2014, 07:26:15 PM
You forgot to discuss Zionism.
no point. Zionism never really was all that influential and is even less so now.

One huge and growing problem for Israel is the Ultra Orthodox. They refuse to serve in the army or anywhere else and demand all sorts of concessions.

One big defect of a single parliamentary system is that the way Israel's constitution is set up you get small parties with huge influence. Which means all too often a tiny minority gets way too much political power. Like the gays in the US; political clout way beyond what they should have by numbers.
422  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Buying Birth Control for Others 'Obligation Citzens Have' on: August 04, 2014, 06:41:45 PM
I wonder if it ever occurred to you that employers have no business denying ANY employee ANY approved drug, for ANY reason of their own.  Especially when the insurance that covers said drug is paid for in large part by the employee, and as part of her/his earned compensation.  That is wage theft.   Incidentally, some of the drugs in contention are NOT abortifacients, technically or conceptually.

I'll start listening to this SHIT as soon as I start hearing the outcry about woodie-enhancing drugs and devices covered by insurances.   
Nor do they. But some employers are taking a stand on furnishing drugs that violate their religious convictions, and that's what eats at radical feminists .


Ginsburg is a liberal loon who puts her politics ahead of the Constitutions she swore to uphold and defend. If liberals cannot live within our Constitution, then let them rise up and take over America.
423  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Buying Birth Control for Others 'Obligation Citzens Have' on: August 04, 2014, 05:46:36 PM
Why do these conservative women support a religion that tries to control other women and their rights as Americans?

Why do they continually support state laws that strip women of their rights?

Are they brainwashed?
424  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Ebola outbreak linked to secret Monkey Meat trade on: August 04, 2014, 05:44:12 PM
I ate monkey meat in Panama while attending Jungle Warfare school. Bought off of a street barbacoa on a Friday night in Colon.
Didn’t know what it was but it sure tasted good. I was the only one in our group that spoke any Spanglish but the Panamanians spoke with a different accent than the messicans I grew up with.
When I finally figured what we had eaten, and made the mistake of telling the others, I almost didn’t make it back to Fort Sherman that night they were so pissed.
425  Other / Off-topic / Re: Israel's future war: War of God and Magog on: August 04, 2014, 04:45:34 PM
During Jesus' first coming, one of the things he rebuked was how the leaders (and thus many folk) ignored the prophecies that spoke of that time.

So, we are not expected to be ignorant of future events that are foretold.  But, there is that flip side, where too many times folks have gotten ready for his 2nd return, and/or the rapture, only to find they were looking at just one piece of the puzzle (or get discouraged and fall away).
Because your ignorant and arrogant. You believes the Jews can't read their own scriptures, and only brainwashed Christians can understand them.
After all, Christians are the one who believe virgins can give birth to man/gods based upon their mistranslation of Hebrew scripture.
426  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Just For Fun: Boy, age 4, has mark of the DEVIL on his chest on: August 04, 2014, 04:40:34 PM
That double circle with the cross in it, is an ancient holistic symbol of the American Indians and was a sign meaning the great circle of life with the cross within representing the connections of all peoples.
But unless he was abducted by aliens, that mark had to have been put there on purpose by an adult human hand, if not his own. Simple, really !
427  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Police officer fired for killing dog in front of 6-year-old owner on: August 04, 2014, 04:30:08 PM
I can not see why the officer did that, he is criminal,insane,garbage like human. He doesn't deserve the life, he must be dead. The dog had more value than him. I want to give my solidarity to the owner of the dog, I hope that go on the fight against of that horrific act.
428  Other / Off-topic / Re: What is the best gift you have ever received? on: August 04, 2014, 04:08:06 PM
The best gift I've ever received was the $5000 my grandmother left me after she passed away this spring. because of the boost to my savings account my husband and I were able to buy our first house. I'm ordering a garden stone to be engraved with her name and "Thank You, grandma" because as someone who graduated high school the year the economy tanked, I NEVER thought I would be able to own my own house. I'm in tears just thinking about her and how sweet and thoughtful and generous she was.
429  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Buying Birth Control for Others 'Obligation Citzens Have' on: August 04, 2014, 03:00:34 PM
Do I need to repeat my argument that the next president needs to be a Republican, any Republican? This woman as well as probably one or two more justices will likely retire during that time frame. Does anyone with more than half a brain and even a rudimentary understanding of the Constitution want more associate justices like Mrs. Ginsburg on the bench? There can be no more important mission than preventing that from happening.
430  Other / Off-topic / Re: Israel's future war: War of God and Magog on: August 04, 2014, 02:35:37 PM
Well, the promises that God has fulfilled from the OT were physically, not spiritual, regarding the nation of Israel (and the advent of the Messiah, etc), so I am not sure why it would be any different going forward.

We will have a physical fulfillment of Jesus' return, judgement, etc.

I know you mentioned you rather not involve the OT, but, that is the primary source, and it is what Revelation builds on.
Because there were no "fulfilled prophesies" from the OT.   The OT was written AFTER ....
The OT is like "prophesying" the attack on Pearl Harbor on June 10th.....
Plus the OT is fulled with stories that never happened ( Exodus, etc...) .
431  Economy / Economics / Re: An Imaginary Budget and Debt Crisis on: August 04, 2014, 01:48:29 PM
How is the U.S. different from Argentina?
How about in every possible imaginable way? The dollar is the reserve currency. People buy our debt with 0% real return. And people do so in large quantities.
with the US massaging many of their fiscal figures and stats most of the time (usually debt and annually adjusted monthly gdp figures), plus a drop in the strength of € to $ now 1.33, and an emerging housing bubble, the forecast is a bit grim for the next few years ahead
Republicans refuse to undo the the Bush tax cuts which are largely responsible for our budget deficits as government spending as a percentage of GPD is about what it was under Reagan.
yeah sure. How much of a percentage of the Deficit has come since 2008?

Which by the way had a Democrat House and Senate? Even before Obama took over?

your pathetic attempt to try and blame everyone else but Obama is amusing.
You think Obama must be the bestest strongest president evar!! to be able to pass obamacare, but "those damned republicans" are keeping him from doing anything about the 99.8% increase in govt debt since he took office.
If you wanted to be honest about it you'd look at deficit changes, not debt changes.
and you show your ignorance by trying to say

"FORGET EVERYTHING ELSE IN THE CONSTITUTION"

by that alone you show your stupidity. The whole constitution is one document; and it all has to be taken into consideration. But you want to claim otherwise so that you can twist it to your own strange agenda.

Your stupid crap about congress making no laws about anything ever is such total typical libtard stupidity its hilarious.

You want to make the world the way you want it and anything that gets in the way is 'wrong' or 'misinterpreted' etc. of course you want to go that way; not admit that most of the debt we have right now came from your messiah Obama.
So you are too cowardly and/or too stupid to answer the question?

You fool libtards are all the same. You're afraid to just come out and state your position and be shown for the complete and utter fool you are.
432  Economy / Economics / Re: An Imaginary Budget and Debt Crisis on: August 04, 2014, 12:41:18 PM
How is the U.S. different from Argentina?
How about in every possible imaginable way? The dollar is the reserve currency. People buy our debt with 0% real return. And people do so in large quantities.
with the US massaging many of their fiscal figures and stats most of the time (usually debt and annually adjusted monthly gdp figures), plus a drop in the strength of € to $ now 1.33, and an emerging housing bubble, the forecast is a bit grim for the next few years ahead
Republicans refuse to undo the the Bush tax cuts which are largely responsible for our budget deficits as government spending as a percentage of GPD is about what it was under Reagan.
yeah sure. How much of a percentage of the Deficit has come since 2008?

Which by the way had a Democrat House and Senate? Even before Obama took over?

your pathetic attempt to try and blame everyone else but Obama is amusing.
You think Obama must be the bestest strongest president evar!! to be able to pass obamacare, but "those damned republicans" are keeping him from doing anything about the 99.8% increase in govt debt since he took office.
If you wanted to be honest about it you'd look at deficit changes, not debt changes.
433  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Hamas and The Tea Party on: August 04, 2014, 12:17:21 PM
Obama has cut spending, had to deal with Bush’s mess, does not have the SS surplus that Reagan, Bush and Bush used to hide much of their record deficits and much of Obama’s deficit is the caused by the shortage in the SS fund.   Then Obama has had to deal with Republicans’ promise to screw up everything until we get rid of the Black President.

 

So get this through your heads.  The Republicans are the one who waste money, they increase welfare (much of it is for the rich) and even with their record tax increases they set record deficits.

Good lord, why would you vote for a Republican?
They voted republican because Bush started two wars AND cut taxes at the same time, and they thought this was a grand idea.  That is the conservative's idea of sound fiscal policy. 
When asked specifically what items he disagreed with on the Tea Party platform and why he feared them the above is his response. Totally incapable of any intelligent debate or to even stand up and defend his claims.  But no one expected you to actually debate your claims or defend your stance because we all know that would take a few more brain cells that you posses.
We agree with much of what the Tea Party says.  We also agreed with the promises Reagan, Bush and Bush made.  It just that they all turned out to be lies.  We are still waiting for the Republicans’ no nation building, cuts in government spending, cuts in taxes and paying off the national debt.  You know the things that happen under the Democrats.
434  Economy / Economics / Re: An Imaginary Budget and Debt Crisis on: August 04, 2014, 12:03:53 PM
I'm trying to understand this. Are you saying that "congress shall make no law" has a full stop after it? As in congress shall actually make no laws, rather than not making laws in reference to the context of the first amendment?
CLEARLY the original intent of the Founding Fathers was that
a) there would be no state religion as was status quo everywhere else at that time
b) no ones religion would be controlled or bothered or interfered with in any way
c) now human sacrifice and such were clearly against OTHER laws and would not be considered religion connected
d) when you consider how many of them constantly made some reference to god in just about everything they did it is also clear that there was no intent to remove the 10 commandments from courtrooms, prohibit mangers and so on in public squares, etc.

sadly the COURTS have proceeded to do what the Founding Fathers made sure the CONGRESS could not do.

That is why I would word it this way
"Congress shall make no laws; and the Courts shall make no rulings"

Anything else would be left up to the STATES.

NOT THE FEDERAL COURTS

Only a totally ignorant moron would not understand that the Founding Fathers meant all these issues were meant to be settled by the STATES individually

their NIGHTMARE was a powerful federal government- which is what we have now.
435  Economy / Economics / Re: An Imaginary Budget and Debt Crisis on: August 04, 2014, 11:37:05 AM
I used to think you were more intelligent than this, but you're obviously a troll. Can you offer proof of this 'record' pace? Try this: http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/

Oh, and remember the 'Grand Bargain'? The GOP refused to raise taxes as part of the compromise.
Govt debt has increased 99.8% since Obama took office.

Are you trying to tell me he's responsible for everything good that's happened since his election, but Bush is responsible for everything bad?
436  Economy / Economics / Re: An Imaginary Budget and Debt Crisis on: August 02, 2014, 02:57:59 PM
How is the U.S. different from Argentina?
How about in every possible imaginable way? The dollar is the reserve currency. People buy our debt with 0% real return. And people do so in large quantities.
with the US massaging many of their fiscal figures and stats most of the time (usually debt and annually adjusted monthly gdp figures), plus a drop in the strength of € to $ now 1.33, and an emerging housing bubble, the forecast is a bit grim for the next few years ahead
Republicans refuse to undo the the Bush tax cuts which are largely responsible for our budget deficits as government spending as a percentage of GPD is about what it was under Reagan.
437  Economy / Economics / Re: An Imaginary Budget and Debt Crisis on: August 02, 2014, 02:44:12 PM
How is the U.S. different from Argentina?
How about in every possible imaginable way? The dollar is the reserve currency. People buy our debt with 0% real return. And people do so in large quantities.
438  Economy / Economics / Re: An Imaginary Budget and Debt Crisis on: August 02, 2014, 02:11:33 PM
Argentina.

http://online.wsj.com/articles/argen...LEFTTopStories
Argentina Teeters on Default as Talks Collapse
Setback Sends Argentine Shares Down in After-Hours Trading

Argentina teetered on the brink of its second default in 13 years after talks with bondholders collapsed late Wednesday.

The setback, after glimmers of hope in recent days that a last-minute agreement could be reached, immediately sent Argentine stocks plunging in after-hours trading.

Still, there remained the possibility that talks could resume and a deal could eventually be reached.

At a press conference after talks with a court-appointed mediator ended Wednesday, Argentine Economy Minister Axel Kicillof, who had led the country's delegation to New York, said "we won't sign an agreement that would compromise Argentina's future." A spokeswoman later said negotiations would continue, without giving a timetable.

"Default is not a mere 'technical' condition, but rather a real and painful event that will hurt real people," said Daniel Pollack, the mediator, in a statement late Wednesday. He added, "The full consequences of default are not predictable, but they certainly are not positive."

The development is the latest turn in a yearslong battle between Argentina and a small group of hedge funds that have demanded full payment for bonds the country defaulted on in 2001. Argentina has refused to pay, despite an order by a U.S. District Court judge requiring it to pay the hedge funds. The issue came to a head Wednesday as Argentina missed a deadline to make a payment it owed to other bondholders, because the court order had prevented such a move.

Mr. Pollack, who had been trying to broker a deal between the two sides, said the country would "imminently" be in default. Standard & Poor's Ratings Services had earlier Wednesday declared Argentina in default on some of its bonds.

A default would pressure an economy already mired in recession, potentially leading to higher inflation and a weaker currency. The breakdown of negotiations also complicates President Cristina Kirchner's efforts to stabilize the economy ahead of elections next year.

Wednesday marked the end of a 30-day grace period for Argentina to make a $539 million interest payment to the holders of $29 billion of the country's restructured bonds that was due on June 30. A ruling by U.S. District Judge Thomas Griesa prevents Argentina from paying its restructured bondholders until the hedge funds, also known as the holdout creditors, are compensated. The holdout creditors are owed about $1.5 billion.

Mr. Kicillof hinted on Wednesday that a private-sector solution was a possibility, apparently referring to a proposal by a group of Argentine banks to offer a $250 million guarantee to the holdouts. The idea would be to give the hedge funds a financial incentive to ask Judge Griesa to suspend his ruling until the end of the year and allow payment of holders of the other bonds.

A default could shave as much as one percentage point off growth this year, said Martin Redrado, former governor of Argentina's central bank. Analysts said it would also fuel inflation, which some economists already estimate to be close to 40%, and deepen the country's recession. It could roil the country's financial markets, ending a period of relative calm in the peso's exchange rate and Argentine bond prices.

The economic damage from a prolonged default could prove politically costly for Mrs. Kirchner, who is trying to stabilize a shaky economy and win influence for her party ahead of presidential and congressional elections in October 2015.

Even if Argentina reaches a deal with holdouts, it likely won't be enough on its own to right the country's finances, said Roberto Sifon-Arevalo, head of the Latin America sovereign group at S&P.

A deal "would definitely be a good thing. I don't think that it would automatically be a solution, or a dramatic game-changer," he said. "The macroeconomic environment in the country has deteriorated significantly. It's weak and getting weaker. This situation certainly does not help."

The immediate impact to debt markets outside Argentina is expected to be limited. Argentina has been relatively isolated from global financial markets since its default in 2001, and the country's legal battles with its creditors are unprecedented and have dragged on in U.S. courts for years. In 2001, the country's bonds made up 20% of J.P. Morgan Chase & Co.'s widely followed emerging-market debt index. Now, they are only 1.3% of the index, signaling little chance that another default would rattle the global economy.

"I don't think this is going to have much repercussion outside of Argentina," said Clyde Wardle, a senior currency strategist with HSBC Holdings PLC.

However, the case has raised questions about the power of U.S. courts to adjudicate cases involving sovereign nations and their creditors.

The concerns stem from the controversial 2012 ruling made by Judge Griesa, who has presided over disputes between Argentina and its creditors for more than a decade. He ruled that Argentina isn't allowed to pay the bondholders who accepted the country's restructuring offers since its 2001 default, unless it also pays the holdouts, who have refused those offers.

Lawyers said the ruling marked the first time a U.S. judge had issued such an injunction on the so-called "pari passu" clause, which states that all bondholders must be treated equally.

The U.S. government has called Judge Griesa's ruling "impermissibly broad" and said it could undermine U.S. foreign relations. The International Monetary Fund warned that Judge Griesa's ruling could make it easier for a handful of creditors to disrupt other debt restructurings. "There is a cost to the world," IMF Chief Economist Olivier Blanchard said last week.

Analysts say Wednesday's developments will likely rock Argentine markets on Thursday, as the country's stocks and bonds had rallied this week on hopes that the two sides would reach a deal and avert default. Investors said they had been encouraged by marathon talks on Tuesday and Wednesday between Argentine officials and a court-appointed mediator, as well as a proposal by Argentine banks to pay the holdout creditors.

"The market reaction won't be positive," said Brian Joseph, head trader at local brokerage Puente. "There were big expectations of a deal. This isn't good news."

There are many investors who have actually bet on an Argentine default through so-called credit default swaps, but it could be days before those investors find out whether they can collect on their bets. Decisions about CDS payouts are made by a panel convened by the International Swaps and Derivatives Association, a financial trade group. There are $20.7 billion of CDS outstanding on Argentine government debt, according to Depository Trust & Clearing Corp.

The idea of default isn't much of a concern for many Argentines, who have lived through much greater crises over the decades and are adept at adapting to economic setbacks.

"We talk about this as if it's something normal. I'm not losing any sleep over it," said Juan Chamale, 36, who works at a Kodak store in downtown Buenos Aires. "We're very used to this kind of thing and have learned to take it in stride."

Argentina's default in 2001 led to the country's worst economic slump since the Great Depression. At the time, it was the largest sovereign default in history and triggered dozens of lawsuits against Argentina by creditors around the world.

After years of contentious talks, the country persuaded approximately 93% of its bondholders to take heavily discounted restructured bonds in exchanges held in 2005 and 2010. But a small group of investors refused to take the new bonds, with many suing in U.S. courts for full repayment. These included hedge funds led by Elliott Management Corp.'s NML Capital Ltd. and Aurelius Capital Ltd.

U.S. courts had jurisdiction over these lawsuits because Argentina had agreed in some of its bond contracts to resolve any disputes under New York law.

After Argentina denounced several U.S. court rulings awarding judgments to creditors and consistently refused to pay the holdouts, Judge Griesa issued his unprecedented 2012 ruling that barred Argentina from paying its restructured bondholders until it pays the holdouts.

For the next two years, Argentina tried every legal avenue to appeal the decision. But the Second Circuit Court of Appeals upheld Judge Griesa's ruling, and the U.S. Supreme Court in June declined to hear Argentina's appeal.

Meanwhile, the holdout hedge funds chased Argentine assets around the globe in an attempt to get paid. NML seized an Argentine navy training vessel in 2012 and this year tried to block the country from launching a pair of satellites. Other creditors attempted to seize the presidential plane in 2007.
And to think, Republicans were toying with the idea of a US default. Lets see how it works for Argentina. The US is not comparable to Argentina. Completely different context.
439  Other / Off-topic / Re: Israel's future war: War of God and Magog on: August 01, 2014, 05:44:16 PM
There isn't any evidence that there is one holy land, let alone two.

 Mesopotamia is a much better land to live in than the Levant, so is the Nile Valley, yet we are expected to believe that god gave Abraham the "promised" land.

 Both areas were leading centres of civilisation while the patch between the Jordan and the sea was often a battleground between the two superior empires.

 Egypt keeps getting bad-mouthed in the bible because the Persians influenced the records of the Talmud.
440  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Hamas and The Tea Party on: August 01, 2014, 05:19:59 PM
I think this is a delayed response to my post about Warren and her liberal agenda and the political agenda of Hitler.... the similarities  are striking... while I was showing the comparison of political agendas, i never in any way compared the liberal agenda to mass murder... but  leave it to a liberal to compare a start up political party to a mass murdering religious sect....cause we all know that the tea party is all about murder....
its a stupid comparison.... but really, what do you expect from the original post.
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