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421  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Islamic law is adopted by British legal chiefs on: March 24, 2014, 06:42:24 PM
there is nothing wrong in this. all this does is allow people to leave what is leave out favoritism and give to who what is in their rights. Unlike with british law.

What 'british law' exactly is it that you think prevents this?
All that has happened is that guidance has been issued on how to write wills following British Law. It hasn't changed the law at all.
422  Economy / Economics / Re: Would you spend BTC daily in brick and mortar stores? on: March 24, 2014, 06:40:39 PM
You could be paid in BTC or Gold if most fiat disappear

The question was 'Would you spend BTC daily in brick and mortar stores", not "Would you spend BTC daily in brick and mortar stores in an alternate universe where most fiat currencies have disappeared".

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and the merchants pay huge fees to use debit and credit card systems, so you pay them indirectly when you buy

But I pay the same price regardless of what payment method I use, so the rational choice is to pay by credit card, and get:
a) an interest free loan
b) increased consumer protection
c) cash back

If (in the alternate universe) paying by BTC meant paying less, it might be worth doing. But paying by cash or debit card now doesn't mean paying less, so I don't see why it would.
423  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Islamic law is adopted by British legal chiefs on: March 24, 2014, 06:33:32 PM
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Islamic law is adopted by British legal chiefs

No it isn't.
This title is completely wrong.
No law has been changed, all that has happened is that advice has been given on how to write wills within the current laws.
424  Economy / Economics / Re: Would you spend BTC daily in brick and mortar stores? on: March 24, 2014, 06:25:23 PM
No, because it offers me no benefit over the existing combination of cash, debit card and credit card.

It offers you lower fees and it could work anywhere in the world with the same currency BTC.

Nowhere I shop charges different fees depending on whether I use cash, debit or credit card.
So I see no reason to think that a Bitcoin payment would be cheaper than those.
I can use my debit and credit cards anywhere in the world, and being in BTC would only be useful if I was being paid in BTC. Otherwise I have to encur exchange fees to go from fiat->BTC, just as I would from fiat1->fiat2. No advantage there.

425  Economy / Economics / Re: Would you spend BTC daily in brick and mortar stores? on: March 24, 2014, 04:24:11 PM
No, because it offers me no benefit over the existing combination of cash, debit card and credit card.
426  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [185 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool on: March 24, 2014, 03:19:24 PM
payout stability of ghash.io, btcguild, eligius etc. is a myth.

The greater the proportion of the network hashrate a pool commands, the lower its variance will be.
That isn't a myth.

sure you get paid out with higher frequency, it does not mean that there is no variance.
No, it means there is lower variance, and your payouts will be more consistent.
Larger pools do have greater payout stability, due to lower variance.
427  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [185 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool on: March 24, 2014, 02:24:51 PM
payout stability of ghash.io, btcguild, eligius etc. is a myth.

The greater the proportion of the network hashrate a pool commands, the lower its variance will be.
That isn't a myth.
428  Economy / Economics / Re: List of Bitcoin Hostile (and friendly) Banks on: March 23, 2014, 11:13:15 AM

You were running a business through your personal account. Pretty sure that would be against their TOS.
429  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [AUTO SWITCH] ScryptGuild (BTC Guild) Beta - Multipool Done Right on: March 21, 2014, 10:28:01 AM
Can't the pool do a one-off exchange of MOON (and the other removed coins) on behalf of the users?
There must be many users who don't individually have enough of any one coin to be able to convert it at Cryptsy, but the pool in aggregate must have quite a lot?
It seems a little unfair otherwise, as we didn't choose mine MOON, the pool did.
430  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Aphrodite Coin [APH] boost of Cyprus economy - JUST LAUNCHED!!!!!! on: March 20, 2014, 05:13:23 PM

Could you stop spamming this?
431  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SPA] SpainCoin: freedom for Spain, LAUNCHED! on: March 20, 2014, 02:28:21 PM
you're missing your own point about mathematical expectation: the probabilities don't have to be equal for SPA to be a better bet, SPA can even have a much lower probability of success if the payout is high enough. If the payout on SPA is 4x and tech is 2x, then probability of SPA success can be up to 1/2 of the tech stock and still be a better bet.

I didn't say that they had to be the same, I took issue with you assuming that they were.
Your long post basically comes down to the answer that which is the best investment comes down to the relative expectations of success, which we have no way of calculating.

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so as long as p_spa is > 0.25 its still a better bet than tech stock if expectation is all your considering
But you have no model to explain why p_spa should be > 0.25.
So it isn't math, it is just guessing.
432  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MZC][SHA-256] MAZACOIN *First Sovereign Currency* ANDROID WALLET AVAIL.!! on: March 19, 2014, 07:14:55 PM
I am not sure if there are legal grounds for a lawsuit, but when you think about it, the coin creator did make a false claim.
There were many false stories, certainly.
But is there an actual false statement directly from Harris?
Mostly he seems to have said things like 'designed to be the sovereign currency', which is true.
I don't know if you can actually find his fingerprints on the misinformation.
433  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SPA] SpainCoin: freedom for Spain, LAUNCHED! on: March 19, 2014, 05:37:58 PM
i assumed same probability of success (although i did not say so explicitly, since as you said it was so fucking obvious) thus the expectation is only dependent on pay-off. Downside is same in both. Upside is way bigger in SPA. Hence the expected return on SPA is much larger

But there is absolutely no justification for believing that the probabilities are the same.
You can't say 'look at the math' if you have just made up the numbers to give the correct result.
And the downside probabilities aren't the same either. There is much more likelihood than random alt-coin X will lose 90% of its value than that a mainsteam stock will.
434  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Scared Cyprus government issues Bitcoin warning on: March 19, 2014, 04:19:45 PM
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“There is no specific legal protection in the event of an exchange platform losing money or collapsing,” the statement said. Authorities seem to be waiting for events like this to happen so they can spread unfounded statements.

That isn't an unfounded statement, it is true.
435  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SPA] SpainCoin: freedom for Spain, LAUNCHED! on: March 19, 2014, 03:49:26 PM
sooner or later the kraken will rise again
- you could buy a national cryptocurrency which if it goes up will go up by MULTIPLES, ie 100% percent at a time. I mean, you don't want to invest any money you cant afford to lose, but look at the math

SPAcoin vs speculative tech stock:

invest $1k with both

if they don't work out both leave you with nothing

if the tech stock makes you money you make 50-200% of your money

if the SPA makes you money it makes you 300-10000% of your money

no question that its a buy here, even if it does end up going to 0. you'll make money in the long term taking risk-weighted bets like this.

The rather obvious point you've missed is that there is no reason to think that there is the same likelyhood that SPA will make you money vs investing in a stock. If it works it will make you more money, but it is less likely to work. Without taking account of both of those factors you can't say whether the expected return is better or not.
The obvious counter argument is that playing the lottery might give you a 1000000% return, but the expected return of playing the lottery is a loss, on average you will get out of it less than you put in. That isn't investing, it is gambling.
436  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: MasterCoin: New Protocol Layer Starting From “The Exodus Address” on: March 19, 2014, 01:42:47 PM
Just like NXT, XCP and so many other altcoin communities, you became too greedy too fast.

Whereas you were greedy too slow?
You entire post seems to be a wail that no-one will see you really cheap coins so you can start making 1000% profit as well.
437  Bitcoin / Press / Re: A Guy Who Owns A Bitcoin-Only Electronics Store Is Revealing Everything On Reddi on: March 19, 2014, 01:30:42 PM
Where do you think they're getting all those trillions from? Magic? They have to print it, this is causing hyperinflation.

No, it isn't.
I'm not sure you know what the word means.

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The International Accounting Standards Board does not establish an absolute rate at which hyperinflation is deemed to arise. Instead, it lists factors that indicate the existence of hyperinflation:
- The general population prefers to keep its wealth in non-monetary assets or in a relatively stable foreign currency. Amounts of local currency held are immediately invested to maintain purchasing power
- The general population regards monetary amounts not in terms of the local currency but in terms of a relatively stable foreign currency. Prices may be quoted in that currency;
- Sales and purchases on credit take place at prices that compensate for the expected loss of purchasing power during the credit period, even if the period is short;
- Interest rates, wages, and prices are linked to a price index; and
The cumulative inflation rate over three years approaches, or exceeds, 100%.

This is hyperinflation:
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Zimbabwe[edit]
Hyperinflation in Zimbabwe was one of the few instances that resulted in the abandonment of the local currency. At independence in 1980, the Zimbabwe dollar (ZWD) was worth about USD 1.25. Afterwards, however, rampant inflation and the collapse of the economy severely devalued the currency. Inflation was steady before Robert Mugabe in 1998 began a program of land reforms that primarily focused on taking land from white farmers and redistributing those properties and assets to black farmers, which disrupted food production and caused revenues from export of food to plummet.[65][66][67] The result was that to pay its expenditures Mugabe’s government and Gideon Gono’s Reserve Bank printed more and more notes with higher face values.
Hyperinflation began early in the 21st-century, reaching 624% in 2004. It fell back to low triple digits before surging to a new high of 1,730% in 2006. The Reserve Bank of Zimbabwe revalued on 1 August 2006 at a ratio of 1 000 ZWD to each second dollar (ZWN), but year-to-year inflation rose by June 2007 to 11,000% (versus an earlier estimate of 9,000%). Larger denominations were progressively issued:
5 May: banknotes or "bearer cheques" for the value of ZWN 100 million and ZWN 250 million.[68]
15 May: new bearer cheques with a value of ZWN 500 million (then equivalent to about USD 2.50).[69]
20 May: a new series of notes (“agro cheques”) in denominations of $5 billion, $25 billion and $50 billion.
21 July: “agro cheque” for $100 billion.[70]
Inflation by 16 July officially surged to 2,200,000%[71] with some analysts estimating figures surpassing 9,000,000 percent.[72] As of 22 July 2008 the value of the ZWN fell to approximately 688 billion per 1 USD, or 688 trillion pre-August 2006 Zimbabwean dollars.[73]
Date of
redenomination   Currency
code   Value
1 August 2006   ZWN   1 000 ZWD
1 August 2008   ZWR   1010 ZWN
= 1013 ZWD
2 February 2009   ZWL   1012 ZWR
= 1022 ZWN
= 1025 ZWD
On 1 August 2008, the Zimbabwe dollar was redenominated at the ratio of 1010 ZWN to each third dollar (ZWR).[74] On 19 August 2008, official figures announced for June estimated the inflation over 11,250,000%.[75] Zimbabwe's annual inflation was 231,000,000% in July[76] (prices doubling every 17.3 days). By October 2008 Zimbawe was mired in hyperinflation with wages falling far behind inflation. In this dysfunctional economy hospitals and schools had chronic staffing problems, because many nurses and teachers could not afford bus fare to work. Most of the capital of Harare was without water because the authorities had stopped paying the bills to buy and transport the treatment chemicals. Desperate for foreign currency to keep the government functioning, Zimbabwe’s central bank governor, Gideon Gono, sent runners into the streets with suitcases of Zimbabwean dollars to buy up American dollars and South African rand.[77] For periods after July 2008, no official inflation statistics were released. Prof. Steve H. Hanke overcame the problem by estimating inflation rates after July 2008 and publishing the Hanke Hyperinflation Index for Zimbabwe.[78] Prof. Hanke’s HHIZ measure indicated that the inflation peaked at an annual rate of 89.7 sextillion percent (89,700,000,000,000,000,000,000%) in mid-November 2008. The peak monthly rate was 79.6 billion percent, which is equivalent to a 98% daily rate, or around 7× 10108 percent yearly rate. At that rate, prices were doubling every 24.7 hours. Note that many of these figures should be considered mostly theoretic, since the hyperinflation did not proceed at that rate a whole year.[79]
At its November 2008 peak, Zimbabwe's rate of inflation approached, but failed to surpass, Hungary's July 1946 world record.[79] On 2 February 2009, the dollar was redenominated for the fourth time at the ratio of 1012 ZWR to 1 ZWL, only three weeks after the $100 trillion banknote was issued on 16 January,[80][81] but hyperinflation waned by then as official inflation rates in USD were announced and foreign transactions were legalised,[79] and on 12 April the dollar was abandoned in favour of using only foreign currencies. The overall impact of hyperinflation was 1 ZWL = 10^25 ZWD.
Start and End Date: Mar. 2007- Mid-Nov. 2008
Peak Month and Rate of Inflation:Mid-Nov. 2008, 7.96 billion percent[82]
438  Economy / Speculation / Re: The truth is out: money is just an IOU, and the banks are rolling in it on: March 19, 2014, 11:15:00 AM
In a LETS, if I'm a plumber, I can trade one hour of my plumbing work against one hour of your plumbing work. In today's system, I pay the plumber 10 times more per hour than my own hourly wage. Go figure.

Shrug. Not all jobs are equally valuable.
If you have skills or knowledge other people don't, but that they require, you will be able to command a higher fee for your work.
If you don't, you won't.
I don't begrudge paying plumbers, electricians, etc... for their skills. They can do things I need, and can't do myself.
439  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: March 19, 2014, 11:12:19 AM
Of course Titan will probably consume 2000+ Watts, ship in late Q3, and LTC difficulty growth will certainly be over 4%

It certainly will if large numbers of scrypt ASIC miners are sold!
440  Bitcoin / Press / Re: A Guy Who Owns A Bitcoin-Only Electronics Store Is Revealing Everything On Reddi on: March 19, 2014, 11:09:56 AM
Bitcoin's price fluctuations are nothing when you look at the hyperinflation going on, that's what most merchants who accept Bitcoin recognise, also I hardly consider Bitstamp skipping about between $1000 to $500 to be some kind of terrifying thing that's going to kill us all, fact is, the dollar is much worse than that.

Really?
What is the maximum dollar value fluctuation over the last year, compared to say the Euro or Yen?
I'm going to go out on a real limb here, and say it hasn't doubled or halved in value.
US inflation rate right now is around 1.5% year on year. Hardly hyperinflation, is it?
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