There you go again, lying to make your point. That's really the only way you CAN make your point, because the truth of the matter, when actually spelled out is kind of anticlimactic. Every other ASIC manufacturer has also had delays. No one has shipped, yet you can somehow make the above statement. Heh... I challenge you to make a point without lying once. Every post you make taking a shot at BFL in the past month has included at least one lie in it... so lets see you take a shot without resorting to a lie to bolster your argument.
Please stop feeding them  Well, at least people stopped talking about warehouses. |
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BECAUSE BFL MISGUIDED ALMOST THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY TO PRE-ORDER FROM THEM BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT THEY WOULD BE THE FIRST TO SHIP.
No, the "misguided" ones are those who thought a relatively new company would meet their first shipping estimate on their first ASIC product. |
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All good and gravy... just get your products out the door... or simply... http://www.avalon-asics.com/And they get my money. I can't afford to sit around and wait for promises when BFL's competitor can deliver. I mean really, $1299 - 60 Gh/s - 400W delivered VS um.... waiting. Technically Avalon hasn't delivered yet, so it's waiting vs waiting. I understand that they have a fair chance of delivering earlier, but there's no need to misrepresent the situation if you already have a valid point. |
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Poor CreativeX, all butt hurt because we are 2.5 months late in shipping and his pet bASIC all but run off with his pre-order money.
Interesting. Where did you find any evidence of bASIC running off with money? Or was that another flat out Inaba lie? He said "all but", implying that everything short of running off with the pre order money has happened. I refuse to buy into the unfathomable stupidity where "all but" means "all and especially including". |
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@ Team Avalon
What happened to the last Thursday update? (from TSMC?)
everything is going well, everything is going on time. Great! Any chance of pictures of chips or PCBs any time soon? They've already said they wouldn't publish this information, but that they wouldn't attempt to prevent customers from doing so. Seems we'll have to wait till they're in the wild to obtain this information. |
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Since when did the square footage of a warehouse or some such information become a proprietary secret? Unless they have dangling trained monkeys with a 3D assembly line the only thing they might have to hide is just another f-kup. (err, I mean another dodgy situation)
Since when do people care about warehouses? Seriously. They're the most boring thing this side of the border. |
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@ Team Avalon
What happened to the last Thursday update? (from TSMC?)
everything is going well, everything is going on time. Great! Any chance of pictures of chips or PCBs any time soon? |
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If you don't understand the difference already then there is little point in trying to explain it to you. |
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I'm really liking this client, and especially the deterministic wallet. IMO the original client should have been like this from the start.
Well done guys!
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Ermahgerd. Warehouses are so interesting.
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So no different then the main 3 asic companies here on the forum then! Unless of course you can show me proof they have an actual product. Nah. They dont either.
Honestly tho, their faq is hilarious.
Nice trolling attempt, but I know no rational individual could actually believe that a blatantly obvious scam with photoshopped PC cases is "no different" to, say, Avalon. 0/10. |
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Its all the same, Everyone says a 'demo' is coming soon , OCT,NOV,DEC, Jan?
Really? I've only noticed Avalon having a specific, clear goal of demonstrating a working chip around the end of the year. and yet we do not EVEN see ANY prototype
If they had one, then that would be the demo... |
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Hmm, what is this 'golden nonce' ?
I think if you catch the golden nonce, it's worth 150 points and the match is over. They really ought to nerf that down to 15 points. Then the rest of the team would matter. |
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so ASICMiner's goal is to break 50% of hashing power?
0/10 |
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You'd also have to be delusional to think they are alive. Clearly. Still, I don't understand why people conflate "incomplete" with "nonexistent". What strange dichotomous worlds some people must live in. |
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I am sure they don't exist at this point. If they would exist,
a) BFL would have proudly shown the world a working prototype. You're confusing "existence" with "products ready to ship". A baby exists for many months before it is born. |
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the parallel universe where BFL ASICs exist - alive.
You'd have to be pretty delusional to think they don't exist at this point. I mean, if it was a scam, BFL would most likely have mysteriously disappeared by now, along with all the pre-order cash/coins. The real question is if the current batch will work. I'm putting a 50% probability on them being able to ship something in Jan. |
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1. Our wafers are already in the slicing and packaging service. Whether we could beat everyone else in early delivering, or we have to revise and redo the wafers, will be known within the next two weeks. BTCest of luck. :3 |
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loosing a "nonce" is not just a case of hay its only .00000000016% of the nonces I generated To an end-user, that's exactly what it is. If lost nonces (even if they happen in pairs) are a less common failure mode than internet dropouts, pools going offline and stale shares, then only logic-purists will care. you wasted the resources Look at it this way: If a 1GH/W chip has a 1% nonce loss rate, and a 0.5GH/W chip has a 0% nonce loss rate, then one would be wasting power by using the latter chip, even if it is logically perfect. Tldr;  |
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Asicminer is clearly one distributor of Asic-Hardware. I disagree; it isn't clear at all. A quick read through the OP and it looks like they are selling shares for a self-mining company. They drive away potential buyers from Asicminer. Potential buyers for what? What/Where's the product? Where's the website advertising the product? Especially because all the other companies arent selling anything yet too. It is true that they aren't shipping, but BFL and Avalon both have websites that make what they intend to sell very clear. Some will have pre-ordered, while others are waiting for stock to become available so they can buy it. People know about the product and they want the product. ASICMINER has a thread about selling shares. Any information about a potential of selling a product is buried. On the other hand i think Asicminer should start to think about how to sell the Asics. There needs to be a website at one time at least. Now the demand should be created. Its not good to let this part of the business lay down until short before selling i think. Others could take away the needed domainnames and so on. Plus you lose time of cheap advertising because potential customers cant find any infos. This. If ASICMINER is serious about selling a product, they need to look serious. You can't "maybe" sell a product, it has to be a clear and direct goal of the company. I hope ASICMINER considers this to be constructive criticism; ASIC vendor competition is important. |
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