edit: 1.9 BTC loaned so far
We need another 2.1 BTC to continue with project
Good luck to your investors, they will need it. You should rename the thread as looking for investment. Its not a loan as the collateral can not be sold. |
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I disagree, I think a simple email confirmation will add a lot of security. Only the password protecting the account is very insecure.
Recovery of hacked accounts should be a priority as they are soon sold off by newbie traders. Once they are with the buyers the job of the hackers is done.
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First it would make it extremely easy to scam account buyers who do not think to ask for a signed message and would make any buyer vulnerable to having their account taken back in the event they lose such signed message.
Good, let them be scammed. The only reason account trading is allowed is because they can't be stopped. If the rules favour original owners then account trading will reduce drastically. Go to the Digital Goods section, you will find a few newbie sellers selling a lot of accounts. Why are they hiding? Simple as they know they can sell and leave leaving the buyer stranded. If the accounts are reset to original owners then the buyers will go away. |
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Why you think we are going to abandone coin.
If we abandone coin, where is the point of the game ?
You may not abandon it, but the IridiumCoins may become worthless. Its not a loan you are seeking, but investment. There maybe those with money to throw, but if I was looking to invest, it would be in a project with a bigger chance of success than one which has a screenshot from what looks like 1998 graphics. |
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For instance, a couple of days back this account made over 50 posts, collected his gawminer signature campaign payout and left. That account will get activated once or twice again in the next month. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=168724The solution would be to make campaign managers liable if their participants are spamming just to get to the required posts. The above example would have been easily caught if the manager was even a little bit proactive. The minimum posting threshold may also be lowered. My current one asks for 40 posts a month (I do a lot more than that). This forum allows users to have multiple accounts, so why shouldn't the campaign? The forum member played it by the rules, he wrote 50 posts before the deadline, and they were on topic, so there's no reason to remove him. If you think a campaign member is spamming or flaming, you have a lot of options available: -contact me, and I'll review his account -give him negative trust -report his posts and ask a moderator to ban him P.S. The reason you now have campaigns with 40 post limit is because they want to look attractive for people who are already in the 50 p. campaigns, not because they want to fight spam or anything like that  Posts should be if they need to say something. If your participants are posting 50+ posts one day per month then clearly they are doing just to collect the pay and not because they needed to say something. Another example is here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=162745There are also sign ups with bought accounts. The forum policy allows account trading only because its not possible to stop, and the market exists mainly due to signature campaigns. Look at this participant https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=59502This one's ownership is still dubious https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=840008.0 |
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Any free place?
Look above you, they are all complaining of stopped payments so this campaign might be closing. |
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It's a lot more complicated than that. I've basically been working 24/7 for segvec the past few weeks, and he expects me to take 100% of the risk. I ask him to wait a night for a PayPal to go through and he tries destroying my rep. I sold over 100 Bitcoins to the guy and never had a bad transaction, this is all for show.
And yes, no more moneypak. My fault for being involved with him in the first place.
He tried hacking my computer and stealing my Bitcoins btw, so that says a lot about him.
That is a very serious accusation. If you think you're correct about that you should put that in feedback. As of now hie potential customers only see good reviews and can face the same problem you faced. His feedback is quite interesting Bought over 100 coins from turtle...had a small problem but nothing we couldn't work through.
Lets hope we don't have anymore...hmm, delays. |
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I feel scam accusations should be used as a last resort. Once a thread is posted, it ruins the reputation permanently. What happened:: He redeemed two moneypaks (2) $500 codes via one of his "sources". The two payments were put on "review". He wants me to wait. As soon as I give him the moneypak codes and he redeems them successfully, it is no longer my problem...my Bitcoin should be in my wallet now. Instead of delivering, he is being a "Jew", literally and withholding my Bitcoin for no logical reason. He is playing with my money and tampering with my emotions. I have been moving $5,000 moneypak through him daily, netting him $500+ in profits daily. Not to mention, I am his best customer...well, was. I am no longer doing business with this bottom feeder. It is also important to mention the fact that he thinks he runs bitcointalk and boasts of falsified figures in order to make him seem trusted. Truth is, he is now going back to making what he did prior to meeting me, a measly $50 per day as opposed to $500+ from me (a single client). I am not sure why people scam at all anymore now a days when there are many opportunities to make cash. He has been making a considerable amount of money and has now just pissed it down the drain thanks to him running out of proper resources. I am asking for my $900 worth of bitcoin at bitstamp rates. (he received $1000 from me, minus his 10% fee and he owes me $900 worth of coin) Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=255148 Reference Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=654802.0Amount Scammed: $1000 Payment Method: Moneypak Proof of Payment: See below. PM/Chat Logs:http://gyazo.com/420956ad4ae153a606325e4331efcaddhttp://gyazo.com/c1fe174f2465df12cc36987ac6845495http://gyazo.com/8bcc0e7e97aad50712796ed7213aedb8http://gyazo.com/d88ee706fad5c689caa121a843315b42http://gyazo.com/3a332a5e37ff709ec808d33f932c845fhttp://gyazo.com/38215b2321b9b80e02a0118d615a4095http://gyazo.com/50f8cd92206d4c5313482e6df0d1ac23http://gyazo.com/8adc1862b051d9d7176eee21f1d9b32ehttp://gyazo.com/c81dfb113c21b0f142c808747a3cc1a4 Additional Notes: Turtle started off legit but turned out to be a fraud today when he ripped me for the small figure of $1000 USD. I just want my coin and I shall be on my way. I recommend no one to deal with him until this is resolved as he is destined to start a scamming spree now that his rep is tarnished. Thanks for your support. |
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Good move, but you also need to reset the whole trust ratings. I see a lot of green accounts, and digging deeper it shows that they sent first or used an escrow.
Look at cooldgamer's sent feedbacks. He is on the default trust list so all those he trusts show up as trustworthy, and he didn't take any risk with them.
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I want to continue with this campaign. Posts after this: 165 Thanks for the payment, enjoy the rest of your vacation  |
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This looks like it will be a nightmare to check for the 50 posts, not including posts in this thread. Some could be short just for including the posts here, then what will happen? I await to see people paid out, and I wonder what results this campaign gave.
Almost everyone has exactly enough, which goes to show how many of these are not normal accounts. We will be paying out as promised for everyone, however this type of marketing is saturated by empty accounts who only become active when it's time to post their bare minimum. Only a small handful of users actually look like real posters. The rest of them post 3 word sentences in random threads until they reach their 50 post count. We won't be coming back here for another campaign -- It was a tough lesson for us. Payouts will happen within the next 48 hours. FYI - it looks like that schutzhund, JeffDeChesare, and _chance_ are the same person. They all spent their earnings on TXID bfd4075973cbe176c02a9524f38fadae35b371d07f96d0e8d470a761aab720cb shortly after payment was sent. PS - thanks for the payment. Doesn't even try hard to hide their tracks. It doesn't help when campaigns like gawminers blatantly encourage sign ups by multiple accounts. |
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I am curious about when a neutral trust rating would be appropriate...
When someone doesn't like someone else, or thinks the actions are incorrect, or feels the other is planning a scam. It was quite incorrect to actually label with a red mark when the trust giver hasn't been scammed yet. |
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Surely, an early adopter like the OP will have a decent chunk of Bitcoins stashed somewhere?
I always imagined the early adopters to be rich dudes enjoying their lives.
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Someone warned you before, too many alt accounts in your campaign. Some made 50 post in a week or two.
Me and marcotheminer https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=813174.msg9108397#msg9108397I even offered to vet the candidates for him. It was funny seeing all the candidates I rejected in the BarwickMining campaign signing up and getting accepted for this. |
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Getting full member account is easy here. Just be a active poster, keep some patience and get your full member account.
Well you could say that about most ranks, but it looks like he just got told you can get more money for an account with an avatar and obviously the greed flowed though him. I don't get why is that. In a couple of months there will be the new forum and everybody can get an avatar. |
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The new forum in a couple of months will let everybody upload avatars. Quite looking forward to that.
Having avatars is not a selling point.
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All my accounts were not hacked and the ones which had a previous owner have no issues relating to account ownership.
You are obviously going to say that whether they are hacked or not. Once your buyers get in trouble you can just create a new account and start again. That's where the aspect of honesty and trust plays a major role. I can assure that accounts have no issues, buyers will have to trust me with that. If you are honest and trustworthy you needn't have hidden behind a newly created account. Unless you are claiming to have joined here recently and suddenly ended up with a lot of accounts. |
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All my accounts were not hacked and the ones which had a previous owner have no issues relating to account ownership.
You are obviously going to say that whether they are hacked or not. Once your buyers get in trouble you can just create a new account and start again. |
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you are gonna wait a long time then  so will you in your current campaign. You see how a no escrow campaign screwed them over and you decide to do the same  |
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