That link is where I copied the information, truthful. just wait for the results of my paid search. If your confident that you are correct, I'll soon prove your point. I just don't like the idea of no disposition after more than a year. There are many possible scenarios as to why there would be space dust remaining of an issue long since cleared. GIGO I'm thinking tax issues at this point, but I could be wrong. We'll see.
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See my thread for current results. I've ordered a paid search of ASIC records myself, I'm tired of seeing this undischarged bankruptcy claim with no supporting documents and no disposition. We'll soon find out if Truthful really is. The thread will remain locked to prevent interference until I've completed the results.
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wouldnt IPL be the chartering agent in the case of our rivaa shipment being on an IPL ship? also good call that GES released the info before it was public knowledge... lastly do you expect someone will pick up the phone and call stellar or interocean? INTEROCEAN is a Founder Member on the panel of Ship Brokers established by The Government Of India, Ministry of Shipping (popularly referred to as TRANSCHART) since 1961. Majority of the Indian Government Undertakings channelise the fixing of tonnage for their import cargoes through TRANSCHART. These cargoes range from fertilizers, coal, iron ore, general cargo, clean & dirty petroleum products, chemicals, gases and other liner cargoes. IPL is a government distributor, they use TRANSCHART. They charter full shiploads, which may be from several suppliers at different ports. This is where the 12500 tonnes come into play, that is the approximate capacity of each of the ship's dry holds. And yes, some idiot probably will call the office and accuse them of being numb cunts or some such thing.
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This thread basically consists of Corather and Truthful arguing with each other, while Guglimugli occasionally interjects with some more depressing news about stuff going wrong with Uro.
yes all very exciting no? Uro should win some kind of prize just for this thread award for record amount of people making a loss on a shitcoin sounds about right.. we just hit 70k boys! time to go deep sea diving to 1 satoshi. hooray! I wouldn't be too concerned with price at this time, as long as the mine and sell operations are pumping out the coins to the market there will be downward pressure with everyone else holding. Once the block reward is reduced market availability will also be reduced and should trend upward. That's why a USD/Uro market is desirable, so investors don't have to change Fiat to Btc to Uro. It would create a larger demand on the market IMHO.
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After many days, uro goes under 100k. I'm starting to think that it's over.
It was over before it started. How would you be able to prove that a shipment of Urea had anything to do with GES? Why don't you just ask your guru or Bohan?? If there's transparency as they claim there is, why don't they tell the community if the supposed shipment for Urea has anything to do with GES? 3) MV MEGA STAR INTEROCEAN UREA nil 71,148 nil 29/12 From Reuters: a little out of date, but it confirms that mega star is an Interocean Group Ship, used by IPL for UREA. Link here http://in.reuters.com/article/2012/12/27/port-mundra-idINL4N0A12G220121227The fact that GES was able to release the port of origin before this information was available publicly indicates they were indeed involved in this transaction. ship data here: Port Arrival (LT) Departure (LT) In Transit IN MUNDRA (UTC+5.5) 2014-08-14 07:39:00 2014-08-18 16:39:00 IN PIPAVAV (UTC+5.5) 2014-08-09 16:01:00 IN PIPAVAV (UTC+5.5) 2014-08-04 10:31:00 IR ASALUYEH (UTC+4.5) 2014-07-29 17:37:00 IR ASALUYEH (UTC+4.5) 2014-07-19 14:25:00 QA MESAIEED (UTC+3) 2014-07-09 12:07:00 Link: http://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/details/ships/9512202/vessel:MEGA_STARGood work.. I would like to give an update on which Management the Vessel is now under: Stellar Ocean transport LLC Stellar is the owner's agent, Interocean is the charterer's agent http://interocean.in/index.php?page=Ship-Broking
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After many days, uro goes under 100k. I'm starting to think that it's over.
It was over before it started. How would you be able to prove that a shipment of Urea had anything to do with GES? Why don't you just ask your guru or Bohan?? If there's transparency as they claim there is, why don't they tell the community if the supposed shipment for Urea has anything to do with GES? 3) MV MEGA STAR INTEROCEAN UREA nil 71,148 nil 29/12 From Reuters: a little out of date, but it confirms that mega star is an Interocean Group Ship, used by IPL for UREA. Link here http://in.reuters.com/article/2012/12/27/port-mundra-idINL4N0A12G220121227The fact that GES was able to release the port of origin before this information was available publicly indicates they were indeed involved in this transaction. ship data here: Port Arrival (LT) Departure (LT) In Transit IN MUNDRA (UTC+5.5) 2014-08-14 07:39:00 2014-08-18 16:39:00 IN PIPAVAV (UTC+5.5) 2014-08-09 16:01:00 IN PIPAVAV (UTC+5.5) 2014-08-04 10:31:00 IR ASALUYEH (UTC+4.5) 2014-07-29 17:37:00 IR ASALUYEH (UTC+4.5) 2014-07-19 14:25:00 QA MESAIEED (UTC+3) 2014-07-09 12:07:00 Link: http://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/details/ships/9512202/vessel:MEGA_STAR
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Still waiting on the free data to update. Now costs money. Beggars can't be choosers.
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The thread at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=742456.0 is now unlocked. I'm determined that it will be the authoritative result on the legitimacy of Uro. I don't care if it ends up good or bad, I just want to end this soap opera. Everyone will have a chance to contribute, and the results shall be what they shall be.
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One of the major setbacks in trying to verify the companies involved was the sheer volume of textile transactions. I found thousands of import/export records regarding clothing, but no urea. After a recent contact with Bohan I realized it was because GES ships FOB so the shipping record reflects the shipping company used by IPL. This is actually a great tool for backtrail research, once the pattern is established, it becomes easily visible. All part of the learning curve.
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I would also like to point out that whether or not the shipment was in fact paid for in uro is NOT public domain, and is irrelevant to this discussion. The fact that the urea was delivered validates the claim IMO. My main concern was that the people involved in this project were attempting to make something out of nothing. As long as the NIERS state that they accept uro, and the blockchain reflects the transaction, they are holding an asset that they consider to equal the value of the UREA that was delivered. If they can deliver the UREA, and have proved that capacity to the satisfaction of the investors, they have succeeded. If they were relying upon the market to pump the coin high enough to sell the coin and purchase the urea to fulfill the contract, that would have been a scam attempt, and would already be failed. Also, the amount of capital in the market at this time does not justify continued activity were this a scam. They would already have ran, IMO.
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I'm working on it, here's the link. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=742456.0I've been searching for weeks, but some of my queries were wrong, so I'm still working as I post results. My thread is a dictatorship, there is no right of free speech, I reserve the right to ERASE the assholes. But I will be fair. I also will tell you that I do not have the support of Bohan or Nilesh in this thread. It is entirely on my own. If it ends up being good for them, oh well. If it proves bad, so be it. Either way, we'll put the fud to bed and find out who is a villain or a hero. Has the Cargo Vessel for Urea that was bought with URO been confirmed yet? I will address that shortly By revealing the port of origin and the date range it is easy to confirm shipment. Whether or not I will access the record and reveal the details will depend upon necessity. It will be a community decision.
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I'm working on it, here's the link. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=742456.0I've been searching for weeks, but some of my queries were wrong, so I'm still working as I post results. My thread is a dictatorship, there is no right of free speech, I reserve the right to ERASE the assholes. But I will be fair. I also will tell you that I do not have the support of Bohan or Nilesh in this thread. It is entirely on my own. If it ends up being good for them, oh well. If it proves bad, so be it. Either way, we'll put the fud to bed and find out who is a villain or a hero.
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I'm working on it, here's the link. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=742456.0I've been searching for weeks, but some of my queries were wrong, so I'm still working as I post results. My thread is a dictatorship, there is no right of free speech, I reserve the right to ERASE the assholes. But I will be fair.
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I am going to attempt, in the next few days, to start a new thread regarding the legitimacy of Urocoin. In this thread I will present my methods of research, how I arrived at my conclusions, along with options to expand the scope of the research. I would like to state that at this time, I find no reason to doubt that this coin is EXACTLY what it is stated to be. I have approached this with the intent of either proving or disproving the claims of those who have opposed or supported this coin from inception. This new thread will be moderated, and no off topic discussion will be allowed. It will be a summary of facts and evaluation of solutions ONLY. Links will be posted as content becomes available.
Thank You
Hobyl Petros.
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No. And I'm not going to make the name public . (At least not until the ship is long since unloaded and gone to a different part of the world) You can find it yourself if you know what to look for. I've been through 300 ships tonight.
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I'd like to make a public apology, for what it's worth- to Bohan and Nilesh. I realize now that I was unable to find a footprint for GES because of the FOB shipping The document lists IPL's shipping agent as the shipper.
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If any of you can demonstrate proof to me that all the shipping records are publicly available (like hobopete has mentioned), then I can try and convince Rivaa and/or GES to provide the details - by arguing that its public knowledge anyway.
Provide me the way/links on how to access these records, so that I can make a case for you guys.
Well, internet jockeys? You were just saying all this info is online. Where's the evidence? I never said it was instant lol go to mcdonald's if you want fast...
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Ok, now I'm just spamming...
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