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Meanwhile - so - new images must mean they actually aren't empty boxes so they can run them and tell people results.
Again, someone must know something of what's going on at BFL - post some info - I'm sure no one signed a non disclosure agreement with BFL regarding their email ...
Here is the latest I have: We had moved the final stage of production here from Taiwan so as not to get trapped by the Chinese holiday. We're still in production and testing. I would say it's fair to say the Asians do it faster.  God damn the chinese new year. Take home message: not only are they horrible at marketing, but they're racist to boot.  |
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Then why are you here, stepping in ultra-late in the game to white knight it over BFL and sonny?
Seriously guy, you bring nothing to the table that wasn't mentioned fifty times in the previous 130 pages of fucktardery. You are as bad as goat and I...worse maybe, with that high horse you are on.
I'm a pretty mellow guy in real life, and I generally practice good forum etiquette in other communities I'm a part of. I've been lurking here a long time and have finally created this account to stick it to utter retards such as yourself who find it so hilarious to hang around in threads such as this, offering absolutely zero useful input and just generally being a disgusting, sorry excuse for a human being. Well fuck you. You can keep trolling this thread all you like, but now you're also going to have to put up with me trolling you for the foreseeable future, or at least until you grow a brain and start acting like a normal member of society. Lets see how you like a taste of your own medicine. Gonna have to try harder than that to troll me, honey.  That is you, in this thread ^ |
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I've read it all. I know the current state of things, as I also keep in contact with BFL. What goes on this thread is 1 part actual information, 2 parts technical discussion of FPGA technology, and 7 parts trolling from Randy, DeathandTaxes, Goat, Kano and couple of others.
Why is it everyone who's been in contact with BFL never posts any "actual information"? So if you actually ordered one, when is it due to ship? Plenty of info has been posted from people who have spoken to BFL. All the pictures of the boards for example. If I had an exact ship date, I'd tell you, but I don't. This week or the next as far as I know. I'm not about to explode if I don't have an exact ship date so I'm not too worried, as long as I get it sometime in Feb I'll be happy. So was that what Sonny said? If you have actually read this thread you will see that there are many people who are interested in these ... not just those willing to risk $600 on something that is currently about 2 months past due and no built final prototype version of it even exists (only the previous one from a while back that had to be redesigned due to the 400% missed guess at the power usage) So then either wait for people to recieve them, then make your decision based on that, or email the company yourself and ask whatever questions you have! It's really not that hard. Yeah same as a few others have already said ... I take that to mean that it's not good news, that's the usual reason for people now wanting to post information they already know for others to read. Believe what you want, I couldn't care less. Then why are you here, stepping in ultra-late in the game to white knight it over BFL and sonny? Seriously guy, you bring nothing to the table that wasn't mentioned fifty times in the previous 130 pages of fucktardery. You are as bad as goat and I...worse maybe, with that high horse you are on. |
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AS i said, climate reflects large scale cycles and not so much irregularities or pseudo random events if you take a reasonable timescale. Weather is pure "randomness" - as are the stockmarkets.
Also noone is predicting future climate, noone sane would ever try to. Our current models cant even simulate the known past well enough to be considered good for predicting. But with the error margin known for remodeling the past scenarious can be created for the future. Sorry if it sounds like talking down on you - i really dont want to do that, but you must be sure you know your vocabulary. Weather is not climate and predictions are not scenarios. We can predict weather to a certain degree, but as you know with a high error for more than three days - simulating climate or creating scenarios is totally different. Noone tells you it will be 3K warmer in 100years, scenarios tell you it MIGHT be between 2K and 5K warmer in roughly 100years IF certain parameters wont change or worsen. Also the models for climate modelling are changed every few years at the moment, each time they get better or at least higher in resolution and take more parameters into account, but normally they show quite the same results which is NOT a result of cheating or tampering with parameters to make them fit..
The current models take more parameters into account, but what does that mean when there are literally infinite parameters? We are talking about nature. |
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All the pictures of the boards for example.
You know...the ones that are off their website... |
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Than we will open another thread where ppl can laught from thier tech.  i`m looking forward to it too, but day by day, i`m more convinced that there is nothing to wait for. no, i did not bought. i just send couple of emails to sonny and always got answer. @up +99 for that I've got my eye on the 2btc put up by goat to guess the delivery date. I got never-never-never. |
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7 parts trolling from Randy, DeathandTaxes, Goat, Kano and couple of others.
Bahahaha...one of the most helpful, informed, and intelligent participants on this entire forum is branded a troll by some poon with 10 posts. |
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If we only kept the pertinent information to this thread entitled "is it a scam"...
Seems to me that BFL should have chosen a different venue as their press conduit and presented the 4 pages of 'relevant' information there. Also, if you think this thread is 59 pages long, you missed the the lion's share of it.
I am looking forward to people receiving their boxes too. I've been looking forward to it for four months now.
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So I'm sure people have emailed Sonny and asked where their single(s) is/are.
Anyone gonna post the reply he gave this time?
No. Go ahead and email them yourself if you're curious. I would think you'd want them focusing all their attention on presenting you with your three-month-overdue product, rather than answering redundant emails...but like I always say, "do whatever you want". |
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You are mistaken. The simple answer is: no one knows. No one knows 100% for sure. No one knows anything 100% for sure. Ever. Maybe we live in the Matrix? So if you jump out of a plane, you may not fall to your death. No one knows. Maybe God will catch you. Maybe Newton was wrong. So why dont you? Rational humans dont jump out of planes without a parachute because they make decisions based upon the best available science and knowledge. If you jump out of a plane without parachute there is a near certainty you will die. The chances of us changing our climate are about the same. But yeah, "no one knows!". What a stupid argument. Alright, descartes... The sample size is too small to draw inferences about the greater picture. The simple fact is, we don't know a goddamn thing about a goddamn thing. Anyone who blindly believes otherwise is liable to get burnt. Thalidomide babies, anyone? |
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There are two separate issues here; on one hand, there is the public and media "debate" on whether or not the science behind AGW is sound. The simple answer is: it is.
The scientific community is about as certain on this than they are on anything, so lets stop debating on conspiracy theories and quoting a handful members of the flat earth society and face the scientific facts . The comet is heading to your house, or at least it is with 99% certainty.
You are mistaken. The simple answer is: no one knows. I seem to recall points in history when the scientific community was certain that burning women would solve all their troubles. Now going along with group hysteria is solid science? The russians are going to blow up the moon! |
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So I'm sure people have emailed Sonny and asked where their single(s) is/are.
Anyone gonna post the reply he gave this time?
Since they have redone the power on the board they should also have some new performance figures .... anyone got them yet?
I am about 99.9% sure that in JUST 4-6 weeks ( TM ) we will be mining on these babies  Expect a call from my lawyer. |
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I AM NOT saying that sudden changes due to man are not happening. I am saying that blindly accepting what "experts" tell you is bad, accepting what the media says is even worse.
Bam. This times a million. |
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So I take it you are ok with those countless patents for processes and machines that current technology cannot achieve?
I am amazed that you don't see a difference between personal use and the manufacturing and sale of an item. You really buy into the current state of patent and copyright law? I am all for allowing those who came up with an idea to profit off it, but I do not think it should be a crime for someone to repeat their experiment for their own use. That's some christianity in the dark ages shit right there.
Indeed, this has gone way off topic. I'll admit that I've been party to it, but it has to stop. I'll be forced to split the thread if there is any more of it, and that involves a great deal of work on my part. I don't know...anonymous responds to crackdown on piracy, we get into intellectual property law...seems relevant enough for you to shirk that job. |
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Posts up there ^^^
1. The cycles you are referencing to in that chart happened over hundreds of thousands of years. We are seeing extreme climate change over the course of just 1 century...
2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenhouse_gas3. It will be a very long time before fossil fuels run out. 1. The resolution of sampling climate data for the previous million years is far from accurate. No one knows if this is precedent. Period. We aren't seeing extreme climate changes, as there is absolutely no basis for comparison, nor a sample period long enough to matter. This is like basing your hashrate on one second of submitting shares, to bring it all full circle. 2. See, this is all speculation until it plays out... 3. No one knows. Period. Those charts someone posted correspond roughly to the milankovich cycles. Roughly...no one has ever been able to link more than a rough similarity, and for their accuracy in predicting ice ages, they are damn near worthless. You guys need to learn that correlation is not causation, particularly on a geologic time scale. There is no precedent for this, and everyone who thinks they know what they are talking about has only been working on it twenty years... So I suppose the last 200 years is responsible for the 'sinking' of those thousands upon thousands of islands in the past 10,000 years. Sensationalist journalism. You have probably never lived in the tropics, when a single storm can eat away 500 meters of land and plop it somewhere else, nor do you seem to know much about oceanography or climatology. Shit be changin' all the time, homie. No one's been watching long enough to know a damned thing. Dree12: Where is all this evidence you speak of? All sorts of things happen on this planet which affect the weather. Have you ever heard of a drought? Are those some modern invention of the industrial revolution... Your lifetime? Pahahahahaha....you obviously aren't a geologist. |
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The main problem with concluding we know the cause of global warming is 1) No one really understands clouds, which can either reflect light back into space (cooling), or reflect it back down to earth (heating) depending on various factors. I.e. increased heat -> increased moisture ->  net effect on clouds 2) The body of evidence that warming is occurring is actually showing pretty small scale changes so far (far, far less than what occurs during the yearly cycle). Whether the theorized positive feedback loop occurs depends on what the clouds do... which no one really understands. All the models ASSUME clouds will work as a positive feedback factor. There is some basis for this but also preliminary satellite evidence that the opposite is true. Even a decade of perfect climate data isn't enough to tell either way since there are so many long and medium scale cycles overlapping each other. At the very least, the idea that there is "incontrovertible proof" CO2 is the cause is overblown and likely a political move. The correlation is there for sure, causation not so much. Global warming deniers always try to deny the truth by using ambiguous words. Idiots always believe what they are told without understanding it. |
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