Skeptic mode on:
1) Buy some btc at $170
2)Tweet: "Hey, I have some inside information on BitCoin. Something huge will happen! Buy now!"
3) Watch 5% of your your followers buy in causing price to rise
4) Sell at $210
Profit!
(Continued)
5) Go against the earlier announcement as obviously nothing major happened. Create negative sentiment.
6) Watch people dump causing price drop.
Rinse and repeat.
Except it only works once.. It works repeatedly if you use the right shills. But yeah, that would take some skill and effort. |
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Skeptic mode on:
1) Buy some btc at $170
2)Tweet: "Hey, I have some inside information on BitCoin. Something huge will happen! Buy now!"
3) Watch 5% of your your followers buy in causing price to rise
4) Sell at $210
Profit!
(Continued)
5) Go against the earlier announcement as obviously nothing major happened. Create negative sentiment.
6) Watch people dump causing price drop.
Rinse and repeat.
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how is this fair use when the purpose of that image is to make 1000 gh .
So about this signature you're using. How does it feel to endorse a ponzi scheme? And calling out other users for trying to get their share of the same ponzi? Hypocrite. @Mr.Teal, I set them up on their "found blocks". I was hoping to see how they would try to fix that lie. |
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... Original content deleted, so I removed the quote. ...
Wow, you're a shining example for human kind. Just what this community needs. /sarcasm. |
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Is this faucet a scam? I have not been paid in months. Today's payout went out, but again I did not get paid, not even my regular balance! I smell SCAM all over this stupid faucet!!!!!!
You can check on the blockchain if the payout was sent or not. No need to guess. Other people seem to get paid. |
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Why does everyone have to be so negative. He shipped the phone first so he should be the one to be nervous if there was any reason to be. And if the phone is fake its pretty damn obvious. Also whocares where the phone came from or why he is selling it at that price its no ones business. This is a black market last time I checked.
Did you have a good look around this forum lately? Did you notice that it is quite common to get scammed? And this is admittedly a very good deal. I can see why many people would be skeptic. And would you care if it was the S5 that was stolen from you the second you walked out of the shop you bought it from. While I'm not saying you should do an extensive background check on everything you buy your "Who cares" attitude is morally weak. |
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Unlocked ?
Hi, Yes, Quite a few customers have emailed us asking us to unlock it. customer is always right  I have a question. You've been mining for a while and on http://minethatcloud.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=25 you state you found a block on 2015-01-17 with transaction fees of 0.00622459 BTC. Yet I cannot find any block mined on that date with the matching amount of transaction fees. Could you show me the transaction hash and/or blockheight of the blocks you found? Thanks! |
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I was unaware that ponzi schemes were legal in Belgium. Oh, wait they aren't. In before the collapse. PS. Syke, 50 BTC is not nearly enough for me to set up up a 300+ TH/s farm, but if you're serious about throwing your money away please contact me and I'm sure we can work something out  |
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Thanks for answers. So according to market rules, I cant sell to countries where canabis seeds are illegal? So I have to ask buyer before he pays, where he lives? Gonna be fun  You have to ask the buyer where they want you to ship the goods. If you're not sure you should also get them to confirm that shipping the goods to that address is legal. In addition you should confirm the legality yourself. Cover your ass. Note that many countries have restrictions on shipping organic matter, specifically seeds. |
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Seriously you are stealing that 8.4 BTC from the deposits next in line.
that is Ponzi! Everbody investing in ponzi and getting paid is "stealing" From someboody Next in line. You dont understand how ponzi work! STFU and get your dishonest ass out of this thread Oh, hey, someone put money into a ponzi and they don't care if the people after them get paid. What a surprise, who would have seen that coming!? /sarcasm Clambooya, don't worry about the complaints. All the people here were warned about the risks. |
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Wow, look at how high the price was. Think we'll ever see that again?
I don't get your comment. The price right now is only about $10 away from the buy price. The price he bought at doesn't seem high compared to the current price at all!? Bots don't necessarily make the market any less efficient though. Albeit a bit of a pain to easily analyze whats going on with all the random transactions.
True enough but it does tend to create a lot of bloat Just a bunch of the same order at tiny amounts filling the orderbook and what not It would be nice if they could collapse all those tiny payments to an aggregate for the actual buy order. Just, you know, in case you don't want to see all that bloat but do want to see your buy order. |
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Actually, I created poll relating to this some months back. Like you, I was/remain mystified over the admins' apathy on the subject. Here's what BadBear had to say about it. I've never seen so many complaints about people having the right to choose. Do you really want some dudes on a forum deciding what you should be able to invest your money in? If you feel their should be controls of some sorts, then do it, and stop expecting someone else to do it for you. Make an Altcoin Business Bureau or whatever you think will help. I had hopes for that scamcoin buster thing a while back, but it seems to have fizzled out.
Restricting accounts will not work. Do you honestly think the scams are just some random newbie that shows up, then leaves? There are rings of scammers operating here. It's the same on any forum revolving around finance, this isn't a phenomenon located just here. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to find out the majority of them are by the same two or three groups. If we restrict newbies from posting, then we'll just see proxy posts, people paying someone else to post it for them. Then every announcement thread will be prefaced with *Not my coin, just posting this thread*. Or bought accounts, which will just be considered the cost of doing business by scammers. No matter what restrictions we put on accounts, they'll get around it. Need to be a Junior member to make a thread? If I were a scammer, I'd just make 50 accounts today, 50 accounts tomorrow, 50 more the day after that, etc. After a few weeks I'm back in business, with tons of disposable accounts to cull the suckers who now have a false sense of security. Pay to post? Just look at how many donators/VIP members turned out to be scammers for proof that no amount is high enough to deter scammers. I remember seeing one scammer post in scammer accusations, he said he made 5k+ a month here, and had been for several months. He's probably still here.
People are too used to having someone else hold their hand. Many people just don't want to take responsibility for their own actions, and don't want to admit they're gullible, greedy idiots, so they run here to post about how it's totally everyone else's fault, and the forum should have stopped it somehow.
You have the freedom to choose, make your choices wisely.
I guess in his mind (perhaps theymos as well), rules that can't be enforced 100% should not be enacted at all. We should be thankful BadBear is not President of the Galaxy. Otherwise, laws against murder, kidnapping and theft would probably all be repealed as well since people still commit those crimes despite the presence of such laws. I took the liberty of putting the full quote from BadBear in. Now where in the quote does BadBear say "rules that can't be enforced 100% should not be enacted at all"? Because I don't see it in that quote. I appreciate that your argument is more nuanced. I agree that if there's a reasonable measure that can be taken to actually hinder scammer it should be implemented. And maybe I came off a tad strong. I'm in a crappy mood and the rest of the world be damned! Also I didn't have coffee yet and I sincerely can't see a picture so big that not wanting to hold everyone's hand on a forum means wanting to get rid of laws against murder, kidnapping and theft. And, of course, I still don't feel newbie jail will do anything to stop malicious people from doing whatever they want on here. I didn't intend to convey the idea that it was a direct quote. It was essentially the point he was trying to make. And it wasn't a one-off, mind. This hands-off, buyers beware approach has been their mantra, even if they've contradicted themselves on occasions. I appreciate you backing off, and I'll reciprocate. I understand how shitty some days can be, especially in the absence of coffee. My point is, we have existing newbie restrictions, and we used to have more - but suddenly the idea of implementing new ones or reinvoking old ones are taboo. There are implications when the barriers and costs of entry are raised or lowered. In this particular instance, the lowering of the barriers has yielded a year-long flood of abusers. Isn't it time to raise the barriers up once again? Honestly I joined here after the newbie jail was removed. I suffered "only" the posting delay, which I felt was pretty bad but bearable. I don't know the real effectiveness of the newbie jail. I have seen and still see users posting only for signature campaigns (I hope the current exchange BTC - $ exchange rate will fix that for a while), flood of altcoin announcements with many newbie/junior shill accounts as well as (bought) senior/hero account shills) and recently a new influx of ponzi schemes (they call them games cause they're "honest" about it). I'm all for stopping/reducing that flood of useless posts. But I don't really see the newbie jail helping much in that. I would lean more to having a system where posts can be rated ("Hey, I value this post" and "Wow, this post is crap"). Then we can also easily see which users are contributing and which users aren't. Of course, such a system needs to be maintained too since it's open for manipulation (signature campaign farms valuing between the x number accounts they own?). I'm not sure if something like that would be worth the effort. |
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Actually, I created poll relating to this some months back. Like you, I was/remain mystified over the admins' apathy on the subject. Here's what BadBear had to say about it. I've never seen so many complaints about people having the right to choose. Do you really want some dudes on a forum deciding what you should be able to invest your money in? If you feel their should be controls of some sorts, then do it, and stop expecting someone else to do it for you. Make an Altcoin Business Bureau or whatever you think will help. I had hopes for that scamcoin buster thing a while back, but it seems to have fizzled out.
Restricting accounts will not work. Do you honestly think the scams are just some random newbie that shows up, then leaves? There are rings of scammers operating here. It's the same on any forum revolving around finance, this isn't a phenomenon located just here. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to find out the majority of them are by the same two or three groups. If we restrict newbies from posting, then we'll just see proxy posts, people paying someone else to post it for them. Then every announcement thread will be prefaced with *Not my coin, just posting this thread*. Or bought accounts, which will just be considered the cost of doing business by scammers. No matter what restrictions we put on accounts, they'll get around it. Need to be a Junior member to make a thread? If I were a scammer, I'd just make 50 accounts today, 50 accounts tomorrow, 50 more the day after that, etc. After a few weeks I'm back in business, with tons of disposable accounts to cull the suckers who now have a false sense of security. Pay to post? Just look at how many donators/VIP members turned out to be scammers for proof that no amount is high enough to deter scammers. I remember seeing one scammer post in scammer accusations, he said he made 5k+ a month here, and had been for several months. He's probably still here.
People are too used to having someone else hold their hand. Many people just don't want to take responsibility for their own actions, and don't want to admit they're gullible, greedy idiots, so they run here to post about how it's totally everyone else's fault, and the forum should have stopped it somehow.
You have the freedom to choose, make your choices wisely.
I guess in his mind (perhaps theymos as well), rules that can't be enforced 100% should not be enacted at all. We should be thankful BadBear is not President of the Galaxy. Otherwise, laws against murder, kidnapping and theft would probably all be repealed as well since people still commit those crimes despite the presence of such laws. I took the liberty of putting the full quote from BadBear in. Now where in the quote does BadBear say "rules that can't be enforced 100% should not be enacted at all"? Because I don't see it in that quote. I appreciate that your argument is more nuanced. I agree that if there's a reasonable measure that can be taken to actually hinder scammer it should be implemented. And maybe I came off a tad strong. I'm in a crappy mood and the rest of the world be damned! Also I didn't have coffee yet and I sincerely can't see a picture so big that not wanting to hold everyone's hand on a forum means wanting to get rid of laws against murder, kidnapping and theft. And, of course, I still don't feel newbie jail will do anything to stop malicious people from doing whatever they want on here. |
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I guess in his mind (perhaps theymos as well), rules that can't be enforced 100% should not be enacted at all. We should be thankful BadBear is not President of the Galaxy. Otherwise, laws against murder, kidnapping and theft would probably all be repealed as well since people still commit those crimes despite the presence of such laws. That's not really a fair comparison. The point he's trying to make is is no amount of restrictions will ever stop spammers or scammers. They're persitent and they'll just wait their time and bypass any restrictions we put in place and all this then does is penalise genuine users who just want to be able to contribute to the community in whatever way and having restrictions and jails is just really annoying and off putting to them. Don't you see? I am pointing out exactly what you and BadBear are saying, i.e, if a rule cannot be strictly enforced, then such a rule should not be implemented in the first place. That's a flawed reasoning. Unless we're living in Airstrip One, there's always going to be someone who's going to break or ignore a rule/law/legislation; such is human nature. You may not realize this, but these rules (or rather, the absence of them), are an expression of the political beliefs of theymos and the old guards of the forum. Unfortunately, time and experience has demonstrated this anarchist approach does not work in a lucrative forum environment populated by anonymous, unscrupulous character. Victim blaming can only go so far before the spotlight turns toward the stewards. Digging ones' heels too deep in might just eventually turn one into the elite dinosaur-like monoliths so many here proclaim to detest. For the record, 'genuine users', as you termed it, do not create accounts out of the blue just to launch new coins, announce new ponzis, make loan requests or engage in character assassinations. You and I know this, and even BadBear alluded to as much. We have restrictions for newbies now, so we're not exactly selling our souls if we introduce new, much needed ones. Drawing arbitrary invisible lines that cannot be crossed just doesn't make sense. Sometimes I wonder why I bother getting into these exchanges. It's not as if theymos or BadBear actually gives a damn to what we're saying. They should though, because this forum's reputation is gradually deteriorating by the day. They're both young men entrusted with awesome powers. I just hope they realize making decisions from ivory towers have never worked out well, and relying only on affirmations from sycophants can be misleading. So you're saying 1) Current newbie account restrictions (limiting post time) doesn't work 2) Restricting newbie accounts to a single subforum is going to work Am I getting that right? If so, could you convince me that 2 will work where it has failed in the past and 1 is not working either? And where did theymos or any staff say that rules that cannot be 100% enforced should not be enacted at all? That sounds silly. Saying, "I guess this person thinks the world is flat" and then start arguing with that person that the world is round doesn't make sense either. But I'll play that game too then. What I guess is more likely on their mind is that some rules will have too much costs (effort to be practically enforced, reduction in genuine new users joining) to warrant the benefit (scammers will need to grow new accounts for 2 weeks, no biggie!). Let's see which one of us is the better mind reader. And if you want to discuss the morality/politics behind laws and their enforcement feel free to open another thread, because it seems way off topic for the newbie jail poll. |
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U all just dont understand that u got penetrated very deep that u just dont feel it
Stop whining like a baby and talking like a thrash can. You were warned. Everyone was warned. If you want to cry go do it alone in a corner somewhere. |
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Any update?
check pm guys!! if you didnt receive the PM or email please let me know and ill get a copy out to you asap. Coinler Is there any recent public information available on this project? It's been extremely quiet. Or is this only a strictly hush-hush operation? |
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It would surely be good for account farms. Their product would increase in value. Sure, it will make things *slightly* harder for scammers. But I seriously feel it will have a negative impact on true newbie that outweighs the minor discomfort for scammers.
I voted no.
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I'm thinking about going in for 10 BTC in the first 10 mins.
Is week 2 confirmed?
-trade2winnn
Me too. I will send 15BTC in first 3 Minutes after restart, I have set up bitcoinj script to autosend 30*0.5BTC in first seconds after restart. What happens if they use different address? This is why I wait 1-2 minutes to check. I strongly suspect you're a shill. I also strongly supsect several (if not all) recent ponzi schemes are operated by the same person (organisation?). It's obvious that there are quite a few accounts hyping ponzi schemes right now. I know everyone has been warned many times, so I don't expect any complaints though. |
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So we can have a hundred cryptodouble's?
This guy needs to be banned.
No ponzi is a safe investment...or gamble and people that "play" with ponzi "games" are the stupidest of the bunch!
Yes we all know that some profit but in the end the scumbag admin gets allot of "ammo" for the next scam "game" or "program" "system".
If you have bitcoin, i know a turnkey way for you to make a profit with you're bitcoin...it's 100% legit. I wont charge you a penny for the info and ill help you to make sure you are a success.
I will not ask you to send any bitcoin to me at any point..but i will show you where to send it and you can get started with as little as 0.01 bitcoin.
Just PM me to get started. (100% free help)
If it sounds too good to be true it probably is... Luckily this account has seniority and is well trusted in the commun.... Oh, wait. It is not. |
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Charlie doesn't want to deal with this forum anymore: This is what I am saying. I dont know why we're keeping this thread going. I've paid him half and continuing to do it. I don't come onto the forums at all anymore.
If you don't hear from my, email me. My address is on CharlieShrem.com
Thanks.
Of course, that contradicts with what he said before: This thread will be updated when I send more payments.
Until then, let's leave it at that. We all have better things to do
-Charlie
Either way, participating on this forum is not beneficial for Charlie anymore, so I don't expect to see him return (using his real name or known alias). |
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