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421  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ICO] TaaS: Token-as-a-Service | Closed-End Fund on: February 04, 2017, 11:50:48 AM
Few questions to TaaS team:

1. ICO structure:
-- Why do you set a fixed price to your token at $1? Why not $0.50 or $10?
Wouldn't it make more sense to have a fixed number of tokens, and let the ICO participants set the initial price (total funds raised/number of tokens)?
-- Why you decided to have a bonus structure based on total amount of funds collected and not based on time? It looks "pumpy", like those power hour bonuses. Wouldn't it make more sense to have a weekly based bonus decrease?

2. This Cryptographic Audit sounds a lot buzz words and nothing much. Please explain how it is more based on the following:
-Proof of Reserves - everybody is using the same exchanges, nothing "cryptographic" here
-Auditable Exchange accounts - good idea, how does a view-only API key fits into this bombastic buzz phrase "Cryptographic Audit"?
-Proof of reserve - basically you will provide the public address of the crypto asset, so people can view the balance and transactions? Is there more than that in this "Cryptographic Audit" feature?


3. If I understood correctly, the smart contract will hold the funds, is that correct? If so, it is a BIG BIG BIG NO GO. We had The DAO fiasco, and smart contract holding and managing funds is still couple of years ahead.
If you think you can put all the honey in one pot and be smarter than the entire community - well, good luck. I can't see how investors will keep their funds in a smart contract.

4. Do you have an escrow?

thanks

422  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: February 04, 2017, 08:47:07 AM
 

Trezor is the only hardware wallet with 100% open-source code.



No it's not:

www.ledgerwallet.com


Ledger Wallet is also integrated with MyEtherWallet and has been for ages.

He was referring to the fact that trezor is open source..

I still don't see how it is better, since you can't really test the code, and you still need to trust the HW manufacture
423  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: February 02, 2017, 10:32:44 PM


From slack :

viniciusfbm [6:26 PM]
@jani  how many developers are working full time?

jani [6:29 PM]
8 full time
+2 as freelancers
+1 joining next week


can somebody that is maybe dev explain whats that on the pic?

https://help.github.com/articles/viewing-commit-frequency-in-a-repository/
424  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: February 02, 2017, 10:05:55 PM
I hope dividends start paying out soon.. I need to buy a vehicle.

better buy yourself a metro card for now
425  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: February 02, 2017, 07:08:04 PM
Hi - I am invested in Iconomi in the initial crowdsale but I didn't realise there were dividends until now.
Can you tell me who is elligible to receive these (is there a threshold investment?) and how / when are they paid out?

Thanks


All holders of more than 42 ICN will receive dividends that should be 100% of all fees gathered by the OFM platform and 20% of profits gained from the ICNX and ICNP funds.  These numbers may vary and are not yet set in stone.  They will be paid out as ICONOMI gathers fees and profits, which may be several months away.  

God, I love that movie.  It left me so pumped that I went back and saw it again on the very next night when it came out almost 30 years ago.  If you've never seen it, what are you waiting for?



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all fees gathered by the OFM platform and 20% of profits gained from the ICNX and ICNP funds
20% is the estimated profits share from ICNP only. ICNX will generate 3% annual fees from total funds in the fund, regardless of the performance. ICNX will also charge 0.1% entry and exit fees.
As far as I remember Jani said on slack that ICNX fees will be calculated every 6 hours.
426  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: January 31, 2017, 08:42:00 AM
What is the explanation for going to the conference in the USA if the platform can't be used there? ICN can still be bought there so maybe they think it is still worth it? Or maybe just for the exposure in general?

Exposure, new contacts, testing the water
427  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: January 31, 2017, 08:12:30 AM
Guys, can you relax with that Feb 9th hype?

The only thing that Jani committed to is platform release in Q1 2017.

That conference in Florida can be big and can mean just PR and meeting potential investors. The more I think about it, less likely it seems that they will announce there, 2 reasons:
1. Beta testing should come before platform access, and I don't think beta cycle will be 1 week.
2. USA citizens are not allowed to use the platform services for now (meaning they are not allowed to buy ICNX). So why announce it in the USA?

I got the feeling we're gonna shake out few more weak hands on the 9th..
428  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: January 30, 2017, 07:41:23 PM
To those who still think that February 9th is going to be disappointing and that they aren't going to announce a launch date think about this.  Why would the team go to Florida to announce a minor update? Something that they could easily post on the slack page. At this conference they are going to show us a working version of the platform. If you think I am wrong think of big video game conferences like E3. You don't see video game developers like EA come with nothing.. they have a version of the platform to increase interest about their upcoming games. Now I am not saying that they will release the platform on the 9th, however, I think we will get to see our first look at it, thus increasing interest in Iconomi.  
The problem with this theory is that EA has a set agenda at E3. We know what EA is bringing to the table. We don't know what Iconomi is.
I guess.. lol just looked up E3 to see what EA was actually bringing to E3 this year and guess they are passing..http://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/ea-goes-hollywood-decides-skip-e3-second-year-favor-ea-play-2017/
However, I still think that they will release a launch date at this conference though because this is the only big news that they would need a large conference to present about.  

Why would they present the platform in USA if Americans are not allowed to use iconomi services?
429  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: January 29, 2017, 02:29:51 PM
im not up to date atm. can someone give me the next planned dates if there are any?

What do you want to knows ?
yes, any a good news the team ICONOMI will be at blockchain conference in florida on 9 feb.

aah i was wondering whats happening on that date, but are there no launch dates ?

Yes there is a new launch date.
According to Tim (CEO of iconomi Team) - the new AND FINAL release date of the platform will be on 1/09/2017.
So basically you can keep being calm and relaxed , no need to rush \ FOMO and so on.
Just sell your ICN , invest in something else , and rebuy again arround august or july.

thats what we all did



You're full with crap..
Hope not even one of your buy orders gets filled bellow 100k sat
430  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: January 28, 2017, 08:53:20 PM
According to our sources in Slovenia, ICONOMI team & their inner circle of investors in Slovenia are accumulating ICN ahead of the launch announcement.
Given the capped supply of ICN at 100m tokens, they had to come up with a solution to give investors in their inner circle a low enty in ICN.
So they went on radio silence for past 30 days on purpose so the price dips down a little, so investors in their inner circle find a low entry in ICN.
We advise you to hold tight to your hard earned ICN and await the imminent launch announcement.


I can confirm this is accurate.

Why else would they be quiet so much? They're fucking with the price, just as they did for December 28th "launch".

One of the team has already confirmed (on Slack) that they've been buying ICN from the market. You'd be naive to think they're not timing their buys/sells with events such as the launch delay.

Same old shady crypto Roll Eyes

Put your ethics aside though! This means something is coming to boost the price! They're not dumb enough to cause another massive dump now.

God bless those sly little jews.

Buy and Hodl.

Which team member "has already confirmed (on Slack) that they've been buying ICN from the market." ?

If they're buying from the market, they're certainly buying on dips which could explain why they haven't announced the launch yet.

Jan Isakovic.



So clearly they're starting to realize that ICONOMI is going to be much larger than what they initially anticipated... Otherwise they would've been buying during the ICO.

Pretty sure ETH devs are regretting not buying all ETH they could afford when it was still under $1 before they released it last year.


that's such a BS.. All he said is that he bought ICN from his own money..
You kiddos need to relax with these crypto conspiracy theories
431  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: January 28, 2017, 08:51:44 PM
According to our sources in Slovenia, ICONOMI team & their inner circle of investors in Slovenia are accumulating ICN ahead of the launch announcement.
Given the capped supply of ICN at 100m tokens, they had to come up with a solution to give investors in their inner circle a low enty in ICN.
So they went on radio silence for past 30 days on purpose so the price dips down a little, so investors in their inner circle find a low entry in ICN.
We advise you to hold tight to your hard earned ICN and await the imminent launch announcement.


How much reliable is this/your source? I have seen that the iconomi team has become silence for a long time.

And this is worrying me because it can be the oposite and they can disappear and the value of iconomi can be decreased.

according to my left testicle, this is made up bullshit.

source: left testicle

right testicle confirms
source: right testicle
432  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: January 28, 2017, 09:03:29 AM
The thread has been getting little used! In addition the volume of $74k, is the lowest after several days above $100k... The fact's that in February things will be agitated!

most discussion is on slack channel, also devs post there. Welcome to join
433  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: January 28, 2017, 09:01:06 AM
no man, just no. Maximum ICN value is bitcoins value * % of ICN investment into BTC...

800€*0.15 = 120€...

wait...

thats more than 100$




no seriously, 100$ per ICN is too much.
What? Percent ICN invested into BTC? What does that even mean?
Think he was meaning that the maximum exposure that ICN has to BTC is 15%. The devs somewhere, or I read somewhere, that the maximum percent exposure ICN will have to a single currency is 15%. Now how he goes into calculating the rest of the stuff, I have zero clue... People are crazy to think that ICN will get to $100 by the end of 2017. That would be a yearly return of over 25,000%. I mean I would love to see that gain but let's get realistic..

You are confusing ICN (Iconomi) with ICNX (Iconomi.INDEX fund)
434  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: January 26, 2017, 04:42:18 PM
I was starting to think the crybaby lunch allowance traders were gone after the last dump/platform delay. I guess they're back now or maybe it's a different bunch of kids who think they will make 10x profit in 1 week. Why not just sell your ICN and go buy python or pascal whatever the latest pump and dump shit coin is? Why cry about it here? If you really think devs are spending ICO funds on holidays and not working on platform then why not sell your 3x profit and fuck off? What's that? You don't wana sell? You actually like Iconomi? your scared if you sell now the platform will release and you will miss out? so the only thing you can do now is cry about it here? Ohhhh now I get it! actually makes a lot of sense  Grin

I have to say that I agree ^
^^
435  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: January 26, 2017, 02:16:35 PM
good time indeed to buy more ICN.  Cool anyone who has sold is gonna regret and fud!

Very strange to see all those pumps of 20 / 30 % increase on Alt' Galaxy  [look at that PASC coin , come on...]   and a flat walking dead line on ICN for almost 2 weeks. Hope ICN team has something very strong to give us on february,  a lot more than a conference.
I strongly believe in this project.
You are right a lot of other crypto come after ICN and now already touching the moon.And here we ICONOMI investors are just waiting for platform launch.
Pascal is trending on 0.016 btc at Poloniex. Another unknown coin Yes was 0.5 btc on yobit and  we are expected to be happy on 0.00042 btc. Devs are on a world tour on our money and not updating us about development.I wish I had invested in Pascal coin then in ICONOMI.

Dude, what is holding you back. Go to Kraken, sell you ICN and send them to Yoloniex. Instead you're here and trying to get cheap ICNs by spreading fud. What a cheap move from a Sr. Member, don't you feel ashamed?

We all, and this includes you know that ICN isn't a classic PnD coin. ICN is aiming for Top 5 or even higher on Coinmarketcap and you know that. This coin is like ETH in 2016, so stop spread fud, accumulate as many coins as you can and be friendly.

I totally agree with  Domain Magnate, it is a stupidity of the most investors who are holding ICN and just passing rumors , This ICN Developers are just Showing Photos of going to all meets but not showing the development in the project they were to launch on December and now today they are Telling about Feb 9 ,

Mr.Bigsmoke like you investors only make this developers more rich and like you stupid peoples are going on the back of shit coins and after some days you will only shout of scam scam on this coin

devs don't need and should not share project development milestones. It is INTERNAL, and not for the public/shareholders to see.
Do you see Microsoft, Cisco, or any other tech firm updating their shareholders on internal development progress?
Like MS will tweet once a month about the progress of the next windows version?

TL;DR - if you don't like it --> kraken.com-->new sell order
436  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: January 25, 2017, 08:15:23 PM
Hello.
We'd like to list ICN but faced with strange problem, so maybe someone from developers team could help us. We can't withdraw ICN from Kraken to regural ICN wallet, why is it happening?

We would also like to talk with developer, please PM me with developer's email if someone knows.

if you can't figure out how to interact with a ethereum token... don't bother. you're wasting time and money

doesn't sound very professional that crypto exchange can't figure out how to send ICN token to its own address..
437  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: January 25, 2017, 01:32:15 PM

 There is a huge void right now in Chinese traders looking for what trading platform to use.


Wonder who will cover it, hope ICN gets there first.

When trading platform will be launching?
yes, we hope trading platform will be launch soon and can use to trade.

there is no trading platform at Iconomi..
438  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: January 25, 2017, 12:26:37 PM
Did not think it turned out this coin can exist survive in the exchanger. I regret all the coin I have sold a few days after received ini the yobit market.

What?
439  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: January 25, 2017, 07:51:03 AM
I posted this explanation of ICN in the Ethereum trader blog under my other name " Davyroy" .

If someone has some time, maybe they could read over what I have written - it was a note to allay some concerns about the viability of ICN.

All projects in this space will come under much scrutiny. Iconomi is offering something that many people need. Ease of investment and management in the crypto space. Let me know where I am off on my description.

ICN,

Appeals to a wide audience - why? Income? No .... appreciation? yes. The ICN token represents the crypto holdings in it portfolio. Different holdings/held in cold storage.

Right now, to be diversified in crypto - you have to be a computer geek to deal with all the different wallets. Not with ICN - its done for you/including a site to store your wallet.

If your just wanting to get some exposure to crypto and have limited time/computer skills - then ICN becomes attractive. IF, a token in its portfolio (BTC for example - sky rockets) ... then ICN will reflect a rising price in terms of FIAT. (How it ultimately performs in terms of BTC or ETH or any other major crypto is not the point). The point is to offer a hedge against fiat in a simple way. - The simple way - is a service to those who can not juggle/spend lots of time and energy.

Nobody knows where crypto is going and who or what might become successful - so, don't get too caught up in the dividend - at least for now. Dividends will come much later - the idea is to give an investor a hedge against the EURO first and foremost. A new gateway - a Simple Simon approach to holding a diversified portfolio that as a whole grows as the technology penetrates the old economy.

Iconomi - is kinda doing this whole thing by the seat of it pants. But, at the same time - it is putting a new product out there and establishing a brand for the next tier of adopters who want in without all the fuss of syncing wallets.

Iconomi is stepping out. Sure, the legal waters are murky - I don't see how ICN as a token is in jeopardy if it is simply a derivative of many tokens.

Its worth a look. Anybody who can point and click can own part of the crypto space.

That is worth something.
 

share a link, mate
440  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: January 24, 2017, 12:11:09 PM
I'm sure this has been answered many times already so sorry for the dumb question.

If you live in the USA, you cannot participate in the iconomi.index fund, the iconomi.performance fund, or any funds on the OFM, but you can hold the ICN token- is that correct?

You can do whatever you want, you are free
Iconomi funds are currently not offered to USA citizens. No pro OEM holding ICN though.
You can still buy, but it is on you.
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