It's true Islam started to degrade when they started to assasinate mathematician & all in 15th century and focus on hallal burka mekka & all, too bad .. it still created lot of good things in the days

The thing killing Islam is wahabism. .

Yeah they are not speaking about 40 virgins and burning in hell, that must be hard for ypur indoctrinated mind to recognize it as religion.

You are completely mis lead about caballa & alchemy, that's too much to take for your indoctrinated mind lol

Arabic invented science lol

trigo, algebra, astronomy, chemistry etc. All sciences .

You invented the moon  sabath science, congratulations simpleton. You ll go far with this.

But I would not have expected you to read much other than the 3 pages of your bible conforting you in your simple minded view of the universe.

10The lips of a king speak as an oracle,
and his mouth does not betray justice.
11Honest scales and balances belong to the Lord;
all the weights in the bag are of his making.

The problem is still that the fact that those "bad cops" are tolerated, rarely even punished, show clearly the whole hierarchy encourage those behavior.
Those who denounce it are shunned, never promoted, and ejected.

Sad reality of the police system.

It's same with pedo and catholic church.

When you live in bad area, it's the daily reality.



You get agressed ? Nobody give a shit, take 3 day to fill a complaints to be told it's useless.

Rapist get away with it because there is not enough proof, judges are too busy, and cops are too busy getting drunk with their coworker.

You get your phone stollen, suck it.

You are black or arab in a restaurant, cop come agress and insult play cow boy for nothing. When they are not plain beating you or rape with a stick.

The number of time this shit happen ... not even countable.

Lol popcorn1 still thinks science is about making things for money lol

That's engineering, not science.

Those bottle already exists btw, to bad petroleum lobby cant make money with them.

You want to make money, sell drugs, porn, prostitute,  fake dinosaurs ,weapons and oil.

You want to make science, devote your life to knowledge and die poor. ( and eventually with leukemia like marie curie)


The Value of Science (1905)

Scientists believe there is a hierarchy of facts and that among them may be made a judicious choice. They are right, since otherwise there would be no science... One need only open the eyes to see that the conquests of industry which have enriched so many practical men would never have seen the light, if these practical men alone had existed and if they had not been preceded by unselfish devotees who died poor, who never thought of utility, and yet had a guide far other than caprice.

Henry point carre

The kaballah explain this very well with the tree of life.




It start as one root, then divide and Enlightenment is reached as reunion of opposites.


There is also this myth in plato androgyne.  


http://www.philolog.fr/le-mythe-de-landrogyne-texte-de-platon/



But actually feminine aspect is more coldness severity and judgment reflective, and masculine hot mercyfull loving and active  

Satan is subordinated to god.

No its not magic lol

It's like the principle by lavoisier "nothing is created or destroyed, but transformed"

But the principle is older.

Deep down it's monotheistic principle, coming from Islamic science. That everything is a whole, and there is only change of form due to divine action.

Its the principle in metaphysics that there is motion because things "longs" to be somewhere else, due to some inbalance , or that there is motion or evolution because things need to reach a perfect state.

Algebra is related to justice too, as in finding the unknown that created inbalance, and feeling of injustice. As in comiting a sin is creating an inbalance that need to be rebalanced through an act of justice. Hence justice is often represented as a scale.

The principle of holy spirit is a principle of transformation too, with the bible being seen as the agent of transformation.

Could say human + bible = holy spirit. That's a principle of equivalence.

Or you can turn it the other way as

Holy spirit - human = ??

As a "difference" between human as "666" and Enlightenment or holy spirit.

That's algebra.

Alchemy originally is also science of inner transformation, and finding unknown that created inbalance as in seeking the perfect state where things are balanced.

Could say holy spirit is reaching perfect state of balance where nothing more need to be added or removed and being in eternal state of perfection.


The principle of algebra is very rigorous, I think first used in chemistry to represent equivalence between two elements who can be transformed to each others.


Like mineral + mercury = gold.



An equation represent equality between two different things.

It can only come from rigorous monotheist mind.


The origin of algebra is from "theory of balance in nature" from al jabir.


Originally it's not coming from arithmetics or quantities, even if it found application in mathematics and arithmetics very quickly.

Logic is more socratic, principle of non contradiction, mathematics is just one application of logic mostly developped by euclid.

There are many quantities that can be easily constructed via geometry or algebra who doesnt resolve to numbers as in arithmetic.


Algebra deep down comes more from metaphysics / alchemy, science of transformation, principle of equivalence between two different things, even if they are not exactly quantities.

Not really

The simplest example is square root of two, it's not a rational number, Pythagoras knew it existed as the hypothenus of triangle of side 1,could easily be constructed geometrically, but impossible to find through arithmetics

It's same with pi. Im not sure even today we have arithmetic formulation of pi.

Geometry allow to construct things that are beyond arithmetic.

Algebra originally is not even directly related to mathematics.

Alebgra doesnt use numbers but variable.

Algebra is not arithmetics.

Geometry is not arithmetics.

Mathematics is all about finding simplest and most concise non equivocal expression of truth. Mathematics is not about enumerating things  

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematical_beauty

Mathematicians describe an especially pleasing method of proof as elegant. Depending on context, this may mean:

A proof that uses a minimum of additional assumptions or previous results.
A proof that is unusually succinct.



There is no scientific discoverer, no poet, no painter, no musician, who will not tell you that he found ready made his discovery or poem or picture – that it came to him from outside, and that he did not consciously create it from within.

— William Kingdon Clifford, from a lecture to the Royal Institution titled "Some of the conditions of mental development"

Even your dear bible say that there are sins and temptation to be avoided. If all was so simple and Innate, there would be no sin at all.

Mathematics is all about finding this simplicity as the mind of god.

Simplicity is not ignorance, righteousness is not Innate  

Yes there are strong enmies, even within yourself, otherwise there would be no need for religion at all  

But there are different way to see this, ultimately enmy is mostly ignorance, darkness as lack of light, or lack of something.

It's how algebra works, by restoring balance by resolving unknown lacking quantities ( see book of balance )

The Yoda thing is illustration

Every human has weakness, the capacity of discrimination between the two is large part of what religion is about.

Sinful nature are mostly automatism from the body, desires, impulses, what psychologists call the subconscious.

They need to be recognized as sins, and fought against with the power of the spirit.

In the bible it's said the evil has thousand path, but only one lead to "good".

But focusing on good and driving off evilish impulse require discipline and will power.

You can detect evil ways by contrast to what is good, and by focusing will power on the good, it allow to keep devil things at bay.





Look at how the budha can burn the demons and Evil who try to reach him creating the bubble with his will power through meditation and keep his zen no matter what with the will power

Meditation is training of will power.

http://biblehub.com/niv/psalms/91.htm

1Whoever dwells in the shelter of the Most High
will rest in the shadow of the Almighty.a
2I will say of the Lord, “He is my refuge and my fortress,
my God, in whom I trust.”



5You will not fear the terror of night,
nor the arrow that flies by day,
6nor the pestilence that stalks in the darkness,
nor the plague that destroys at midday.
7A thousand may fall at your side,
ten thousand at your right hand,
but it will not come near you.
8You will only observe with your eyes
and see the punishment of the wicked.

The last episode of the clone war anime series give good clue on this

Yoda speaking to his dark side :

I recognize you, but I dont accept you , and I reject you




Confucius say something along this line too, about the need for the stone to be hard enough to polish the metal .

Even some verse from Paul in the bible advocate this sort of training of the body, asana yoga is all about this.

http://biblehub.com/niv/1_corinthians/9.htm

The Need for Self-Discipline

24Do you not know that in a race all the runners run, but only one gets the prize? Run in such a way as to get the prize. 25Everyone who competes in the games goes into strict training. They do it to get a crown that will not last, but we do it to get a crown that will last forever. 26Therefore I do not run like someone running aimlessly; I do not fight like a boxer beating the air. 27No, I strike a blow to my body and make it my slave so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified for the prize.


The practice of zen to reach internal discipline of empty mind is not as easy as this

It take years of practice to be able to reach constant state of empty mind & Control of one thoughts.

Chan budhism is not hinduism

In some path of hinduism there is this thing with atman & brahman with the non dualism who leaning toward concepts from christianism.

To control something, you must first know this thing.

Yoga like with asanas is lot about discipline of the body.

But it's a two way thing, denying existence of sinful nature of the body is when you force some kind of repression on things.

But I can find more in depth explanation of this.

Yes i know what you mean

For me the only "good form" of budhism is the chan budhism

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chan_Buddhism

Lot of meditation practice like with mantra or rituals is different thing


The true "zen meditation" is at most focusing on breathing or so.

Zen meditation is not forcefull

They say trying to reach zen with effort is like washing blood with more blood.


Kirushnamurti give good description of how practice zen meditation.


https://tomdas.com/2016/03/23/jiddu-krishnamurti-true-meditation/


Meditation is never the control of the body. There is no actual division between the organism and the mind. The brain, the nervous system and the thing we call the mind are one, indivisible. It is the natural act of meditation that brings about the harmonious movement of the whole. To divide the body from the mind and to control the body with intellectual decisions is to bring about contradiction, from which arise various forms of struggle, conflict and resistance.