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4201  Economy / Economics / Re: Warren Buffet has some very wise words. Crypto applicable. on: February 10, 2019, 02:58:52 PM

It may backfire strongly

As it doesn't say so much about Warren Buffett as it is telling about yourself. But who am I to judge you, after all? So you are on your own here. With that said, though, I can't add that you are basically calling Buffett an arch-villain (like "next time your bills go up, Buffett is added new billion $ to his account") without providing any solid evidence for that. So the question is begging to be asked, that is, can you substantiate your claims in any plausible way?

You judge me all the time, just because I say truth about that old fart which you perceive as an important and special person in this world, and actually he is nothing. I do not know what you and people similar to you doing on this forum, it is forum for cryptocurrency and people who support changes in this corrupt world

Okay, let's make things simple

You remove your signature and then we continue talking (about being altruistic and all that bullshit). Until then, you sound like a hypocrite. Note that I'm not calling you a hypocrite but it looks exactly like that in my eyes. So I'm giving you the benefit of doubt. What you are going to do with it is up to you to decide. And while we are at it, I also support changes to the better, though our understanding seems to differ a lot as to how it should be done in practice and what it actually comes down to

You defense a man who is all the time against the idea of a decentralized currency, and in same time you are get pay by promoting something crypto related in your signature

I'm not defending him as anyone with a half functioning brain can see. It doesn't mean anything but you definitely don't. If a liar tells a truth, it doesn't become a lie and he doesn't stop being a liar
4202  Economy / Speculation / Re: POLL: Did we hit the bottom? on: February 10, 2019, 02:49:45 PM
BUT that is not what i am talking about. i am talking about the total market, as in the sum of forces, some sell, some buy. during the FOMO times when people see the rise, there will be more buying than those who sell hence the overall sharp rise

Well, I don't think this is an honest approach

That is, you first stipulate here comes FOMO and then proceed to state that you are talking about the sum of market forces. Indeed, in this particular case (when FOMO has already got the market going), it will be like you describe. But if we consider the situation (like this one) when there is no actual FOMO (yet), we can expect things to develop according to my scenario

Other than that, I agree that a legitimate bull run starts slow. But that's because prices have been either falling or stagnating for some time before that. Thus, plenty of resistance walls have been erected which should be crushed first before the price can start rising in earnest
4203  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is Bakkt really an overrated event? on: February 10, 2019, 02:35:40 PM
I think I can explain that thing to you in simple words

As it is definitely not about the technological barrier (whatever you might mean by this) or anything similar. The Wall Street types are wolves and sharks, they won't engage in an activity (read, speculation) unless they will the ones earning profits. But Bitcoin is not their element as there are no futures and options, and all other derivative financial instruments which would them to use their sophisticated techniques to strip the regular trading crowd off of its money

Well, technically, there are Bitcoin futures, but I rather mean the market here like gold or crude oil (in terms of trading volume and money circulating). In simple terms, they don't want to be bagholders, and that's a rational decision on their part to stay away from Bitcoin for the time being. They will enter the market after it gets filled with money

I disagree on the part where you implied that Bitcoin trading as well as all the  introduced asset class derivatives market don't require sophisticated techniques to maneuver the pockets of the masses

I don't see where your disagreement applies to my post

Actually, I was telling essentially the same but looked at from another angle. And I specifically mentioned that Bitcoin is not their element where they could easily apply their sophisticated techniques to steal money from common people. That in no case should be understood in the way you (mis)interpreted my words. It is the nature of cryptocurrencies (where you can simply hold coins and wait out hardships) which makes Wall Street types powerless while their schemes useless. You can't dance on nothing (but you can try)
4204  Economy / Speculation / Re: new bullish run on: February 10, 2019, 02:28:36 PM
I am happy that people see a small increase as a bull run. It is definitely not a bull run length because normally when a bull run comes it does come with small increase like this but it also continues to go up, since the price moved up a bit but than stopped we can't really say that bitcoin is in a bull run. If it continued to go up like over $4k as well than we could have called it a bull run

And why are you so happy, I'm sorry?

That people are so frustrated with low prices that they see even the slightest change to the better as a market reversal? I guess what we saw these day should be called grinding as the price had risen some 200 dollars and now is fighting to stay there (but it seems to be losing anyway). Bullrun is intrepid growth with traders being overwhelmed by fear of missing out and losing an opportunity to buy low. If anything, it looks more like a bull trap
4205  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin ETF Available Eventually on: February 10, 2019, 02:15:53 PM
Bitcoin ETF is a confirmation for approval from this world. People think that though via ETF market will grow again, but I don't think so. Once approved, everything will be managed based on some provisions from the ETF which will limit Bitcoin's growth.

the market is small but it is not that small! it is still big enough for any ETF or anything like that to not matter. we are no longer in early 2010-2011 where there weren't that many exchanges and volumes were too small. right now an ETF with all its size will only be a small percentage of the total market volume. not to mention that they don't directly link to the actual market, instead they take the price from it. so they can't change anything

How do you actually know that the market is really that big?

What metric are you using exactly? If you are using something like market cap or even trading volumes, these can be misguiding. Market cap is heavily misguiding on its own (even deceiving), while trading volumes are most likely fake (at least, a substantial part of them). Indeed, the market is not like it was in 2010-2011 as back in the day there had been no market at all, strictly speaking, but that alone doesn't automatically make the current market suitable for ETF's

As far as I understand it, many ETF's actually own the underlying (say, gold bullion), so it is not like they can't change anything. Besides, paper markets (like cash-settled futures) may also affect spot markets
4206  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC To Under 100$ on: February 10, 2019, 10:42:00 AM
No one will ever allow Bitcoin to go down to the price level of $ 100, these are completely vain hopes that will never come true. It seems that we have the confirmation of this on the market today, Bitcoin has grown from the level of 3500 to 3700, in my opinion this is a clear sign that there will no longer be any continuation of falling below 3000

It may be impossible for Bitcoin to get down so much via market action alone

That is, because of someone selling, even though it still depends as we basically don't know how much Bitcoin would plummet if Satoshi or someone as big sold their coins into the market all at once (and this is still a possibility that we can't completely discard as inconsequential). However, we shouldn't discard other factors which are not related to price action as such

For example, it could be a serious bug found and taken advantage of, which would instantly wreak havoc in Bitcoin and possibly lead to the necessity of rolling back the blockchain altogether as it had already happened in the past (in 2012 if I'm not mistaken). Needless to say that such events will have a devastating effect on prices, even if only temporarily
4207  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Contest with $30,000 in GUARANTEED PRIZES now live! on: February 10, 2019, 10:33:55 AM
Is it possible to disable this option today?

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Didn't know that

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4208  Economy / Speculation / Re: Finally little fire on bitcoin got ignited on: February 10, 2019, 10:14:01 AM
Which I for one consider a genuine fundamental as it actually determines the price (which I came close to explaining in my precious post). It can be summarized as people's interest in Bitcoin. For example, in 2017 people were highly interested in cryptocurrencies (the exact reasons for this interest are not important here)
People lossing interest on Bitcoin until this day because the price is too slow, all they need is quick profit they can't wait when it is recover. It's a simple TA's why market remains low. People will showing interest if market is high then if low they leave the market.
But as of now, I don't see any reason why Bitcoin price spike on the market, but let's do hope it will continue raising up.

I don't think that people has losing their interest to Bitcoin. It is just about price fluctation. People has started to interest something else instead of cryptocurrencies just for now. When Bitcoin price will start to rise, then all people will come back. I am sure of it

But important thing is know when market will recover completely. Someone will earn a lot of money who know the true time

The most important thing here is a proper understanding of causal relationships

For example, you say (and others say it too) that when Bitcoin price starts to rise, all people will be coming back (and that you are sure of it). This is an example of inferring an incorrect causal relation, which is worth explaining in detail. You assume that people are going to return when Bitcoin rises, but how can it rise if they don't come first?

For Bitcoin to rise, there should be a lot of interest in it but it is not possible without people actually starting buying or using Bitcoin. In other words, it works in exactly reverse order. Basically, you are confusing cause and effect here. People coming back is the cause of prices rising, while Bitcoin rising is the effect of people coming back
4209  Economy / Speculation / Re: BITCOIN IN 2019 on: February 10, 2019, 10:01:04 AM
Even though we can predict the selling will be overdone it doesnt really stop it happening, majority of us are motivated short term unfortunately. I think thats just human nature, poorly organised strategy for many people and then quite a few after will end up rebuying at prices higher then they sold.   Its exactly what happens with stocks and I dont imagine crypto is so much different in its herd dynamic

That's because people do not trust Bitcoin

As they continue to trust fiat. If they honestly believed in Bitcoin's bright future, they wouldn't sell it for a few percent of profit. In that case they would likely not sell it at all other than to provide for their daily need and necessities. It is noteworthy here that it doesn't matter what people might say or think to the contrary as most if not all of us act on feelings, not solid knowledge

Solid knowledge may provide good reasons for feeling in a certain way (let's call it correct way) but we still act instinctively, especially when we have to act fast and immediately. This is an important factor we should always remember about when planning and analyzing our actions and possible future behavior under certain conditions (for example, under extreme stress of dealing with abrupt market changes)
4210  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is crypto-currencies is a right term to refer bitcoin and altcoins together ? on: February 10, 2019, 09:39:46 AM
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but I am not sure if cryptocurrency can exist without the blockchain

it can . if devs decides to port crypto into a physical note's ( bank note ) just like what we have on fiats , im pretty sure that it can live and work independently without the help of blockchain technology

It is possible to exist without the blockchain

As there are already a bunch of cryptocurrencies which are not following the blockchain paradigm (read, they don't have the blockchain as we understand it). But they are nevertheless called cryptocurrencies, and for a reason. Even without featuring the blockchain, they still make heavy use of cryptography. In this way, the word "cryptocurrency" seems to be the most appropriate and fitting term for what we understand by these currencies

I think it is a excellent representation of this technology and we should not change anything now that this term has gone global.  Wink It takes years for certain terminology to become the norm and widely accepted

Agreed
4211  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Don't fell for FUD. Stand your ground bitcoiners! on: February 10, 2019, 09:32:08 AM
- I don't think that was a good reason, even if all of those bitcoins has been mined, but without demand, its all is just for nothing, the simple thing is as long as we have demand, bitcoin will be fine but how long it will keep going on ? People's money has its own limit
Bitcoin's use will play an important role, and the simple fact that it's digital Gold is another benefit. Gold's industrial use is negligible. If it was valued based on that, it would lose over 90% of its value in an instant. The rest of Gold's demand is entirely speculative. Bitcoin is better in almost every aspect. No reason to think that there won't be any demand at a later point

I'm not sure that you are correct about gold

Well, technically, industrial use of gold may be small but it looks like by that you actually mean anything other than using gold as a store of value or a vehicle for speculation. And from this perspective, you are not correct as it is only the minor part of gold which is used as non-digital "digital gold" (if I may say so). The major part of total gold supply is used in jewelry (over 50%)

Indeed, you can say that this gold should be counted toward speculative demand on the basis that people can always sell their gold jewelries. But that would be too far-fetched as people can sell virtually anything for that matter, and I don't really expect many to think of their wedding rings as a speculative investment anyway

With Lightning there is an actual currency aspect people can utilize on a daily basis. If that picks up, there is basically nothing stopping it from growing for decades

I wouldn't count on Lightning too much
4212  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Contest with $30,000 in GUARANTEED PRIZES now live! on: February 10, 2019, 08:32:42 AM
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60%-80% of the lottery tickets where produced by the bot networks?  Shocked And its now over  Cool
That's actually very important news, I have overlooked it somehow.
This means that chances for lottery win for ordinary, genuine users increased adequately and quite dramatically!
Finally a good reason to use RP as boost for them tickets.

Exactly this. Back in the past, not only I wasn't buying the lottery tickets, I even disabled lottery in my profile in order to receive reward points instead of lottery tickets with my free rolls. But after those bots were taken care of, I enabled the lottery, and I currently I buy 200-2,000 tickets every week. Indeed, the chances of winning in the lottery increased dramatically for genuine users

Is it possible to disable this option today?

Honestly, I don't remember where I can disable lottery. I would happily receive reward points instead of lottery tickets. If this feature has been disabled, it doesn't look like a good idea. If people refuse to accept lottery tickets, there'll be less of them and the chances of winning will increase for those buying or receiving tickets. Right now, when I see like 100M tickets participating in the lottery, I'm discouraged from buying or receiving them even if someone may win the lottery with a small number of tickets
4213  Economy / Economics / Re: Warren Buffet has some very wise words. Crypto applicable. on: February 10, 2019, 08:23:02 AM
in this case their statements can affect the psychology of traders, because they seem to be role models and what they say are believed to be able to bring the cryptocurrency in the direction they want. but on the other hand, we must be realistic with the market, and make their statements a consideration, and decisions remain in our hands

It looks and works like that

Though I don't agree that common people should follow types like John McAfee as role models. Even if Warren Buffett himself is a good example to follow on his own, we should be critical of his thoughts and ideas at all times (and of everyone else's, for that matter), in a constructive way, naturally. However, if you fail to live up to people's expectations (or just fail miserably), you may quickly become a toxic "asset", so to speak, with people going from admiring you to hating you at the end of the day (and there's no way back)
4214  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is it possible to restart the blockchain? on: February 10, 2019, 08:11:43 AM
I was thinking about the ways to make the blockchain smaller, and the most obvious and simplest solution that I came up with consists in restarting the blockchain one day. For example, we can start with an empty blockchain every year with only initial balances written on it and without any transactions. I think that would make the whole network more reliable, while full nodes easier to maintain

Of course, the previous blockchains should be available at all times as well, whoever may need them. We may have to tie them up into one whole using links or whatever so that we could always trace all transactions back to the genesis block.

it sounds like you're applying "pruning" at the protocol level. the client removes all transactions from its database which include outputs that are already spent. pruned clients still have the full UTXO set and headers that validate back to the genesis block.

this can already be done at the node/client level---i don't see the value of doing it at the protocol level. you turn on pruning if your resources are limited. if people have the resources to run archival nodes, that's all the better. no need to turn all nodes into pruned nodes though

I did in fact mean something like that at first

But if we don't need to propagate the whole blockchain every time a new block is found or a significant chunk of it (as we obviously don't have to do that), then storing only a few recent blocks on the client side should do the trick. And in this case you are right, we don't need to do that at the protocol level as it simply makes no sense then because technically, the blockchain as a continuous whole doesn't even exist at that level, i.e. the rules for how you should store it are not specified there
4215  Economy / Gambling / Re: Micro Exchange with Poker & Dice & Roulette on: February 10, 2019, 01:32:20 AM
Am I the first here to say that I don't think it looks like a good idea at all?

If you are familiar with the now deceased exchange called WEX (former BTC-e), they took a similar path by adding a possibility of betting on Bitcoin prices. Indeed, it was not poker or dice or anything which is typically meant by gambling, but they didn't end well (they scammed in the end if you are curious). Overall, it is better to have different sites for different purposes (like gambling and exchange), and I think you will come to this understanding yourself in due course. Basically, if things go awry somewhere, you are screwed everywhere
Are you aware that there are options to gamble with house money? Have you heard about binary options? Well, thinking about weather forecast,outcome of political events,price of financial assets are subject to prediction and matching this data is job of market makers as a consequence of this growing interaction between trading and gambling. Negative side of this combo is manipulation by old boys and majority lose balance soon or later

What do you mean by gambling with the house money?

Who is actually going to gamble with i? Yes, I heard about binary options which are mostly fraudulent schemes aimed at stealing the money from guileless people (though you can call them "traders" if you please). And honestly, I don't see a lot of "growing interaction between trading and gambling". Well, maybe, my understanding of trading is a little bit different from yours, but in my opinion trading has little to do with gambling in the sense it is meant here (though we can consider trading a type of gambling on its own but that's an entirely different story)
4216  Economy / Speculation / Re: Finally little fire on bitcoin got ignited on: February 10, 2019, 01:24:23 AM
The daily candle range was closer to $400. And yes I'm saying that, based on a temporary exhaustion of bear momentum and a bullish engulfing on the daily chart with strong volume. I could be wrong; in fact most good traders are wrong a lot of the time. But in my experience, ignoring technical signs like these is just stupid
Personally, I base my expectations on pretty simple grounds, that is, there are no strong fundamentals for the price growth now.

What would you consider strong fundamentals for price growth, and how would you measure them?

The way I see it, Bitcoin's price is tied more to speculation than actual fundamentals. What really matters to me is whether buyers or sellers are in control of the market. That's reflected in the charts. There doesn't need to be major fundamental changes for selling to stop or buying to begin

Yes, and this is one such fundamental metric

Which I for one consider a genuine fundamental as it actually determines the price (which I came close to explaining in my previous post). It can be summarized as people's interest in Bitcoin. For example, in 2017 people were highly interested in cryptocurrencies (the exact reasons for this interest are not important here)

Today it doesn't look like that anymore, i.e. there is not much interest in cryptocurrencies. So the fundamentals look bleak, which can be seen in pathetic daily volumes over the course of the last couple months
4217  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is it possible to restart the blockchain? on: February 10, 2019, 01:11:58 AM
That would basically be erasing the blockchain and simply starting from the UTXOs. This is what lite wallets on ETH actually do.

Not quite. Light clients in Ethereum are not capable of fully validating a block by themselves. It's the SPV model -- looking up a transaction and validating headers but not validating entire blocks. What the OP is talking about sounds more like fully validating nodes that prune their blockchain to save storage space

Yes, I'm talking about full nodes

That is, the nodes which actually support the network and which (if my understanding is correct) have to keep the whole blockchain in their local storage. Thus pruning the blockchain will make the life easier for them as they won't have to keep all this information that they may never need. Well, I don't actually know how much they need but I assume that they don't need it all (for the purposes of processing and propagating transactions)

So if we hope for an explosive growth in Bitcoin mass adoption, we should also understand at which cost it will come. To actually understand what it might look like, recall how it happened in the past when the mempools were congested with an insane number of transactions and you have to pay exorbitant fees to have them confirmed. Now multiply that by 10 (or even by 100). This is not about miners here but hopefully you get the point
4218  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is Bakkt really an overrated event? on: February 10, 2019, 12:56:22 AM
It all depends on the demand for Bitcoin, it's as simple as that. If Bakkt, ETF, Fidelity and products like that will allow a ton of investors which have been intimidated by the technological barrier to enter Bitcoin interested in buying, then the pump will be legendary, since Bitcoin is still tiny.

So as soon as all that money that has been on hold to enter comes, ATH will be achieved quickly

That's the eternal question......is there really all this hidden Wall Street demand just waiting for the right regulated security to come along? Are they really intimidated by the technological barrier?

I think I can explain that thing to you in simple words

As it is definitely not about the technological barrier (whatever you might mean by this) or anything similar. The Wall Street types are wolves and sharks, they won't engage in an activity (read, speculation) unless they will the ones earning profits. But Bitcoin is not their element as there are no futures and options, and all other derivative financial instruments which would allow them to use their sophisticated techniques to strip the regular trading crowd off of its money

Well, technically, there are Bitcoin futures, but I rather mean the market here like gold or crude oil (in terms of trading volume and money circulating). In simple terms, they don't want to be bagholders, and that's a rational decision on their part to stay away from Bitcoin for the time being. They will enter the market after it gets filled with money
4219  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How long do you think this BEAR MARKET will LAST? on: February 10, 2019, 12:48:23 AM
Can last as long as the whales want it to. The fate of the market is no longer in the hard of regular traders.
Just buy low and sell high Instead of waiting for a bull run

For regular bros that's not simple

Not everyone can easily ride volatility as this is what your advice basically comes down to, especially if we haven't recently seen a lot of volatility anyway (apart from the last couple of days, obviously). In most cases wannabe traders will end up buying high while selling low and not in a constructive way, i.e. when you sell low to buy even lower. And I'm not speaking of using shorts
4220  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is it possible to restart the blockchain? on: February 09, 2019, 09:00:02 PM
I don't really see the need for anything like that. I'm pretty certain that at one day, there will be a new transactional data format that requires way less block space, which means that the blockchain itself isn't growing as 'rapidly' as it was doing before the upgrade, and you can keep the smaller blocks without increasing them, which we will be forced to at one point if nothing changes

If Bitcoin is to evolve, this issue should be addressed

Even if you employ compression, that will likely allow you to squeeze, say, 10x more transactions into the same space as now. But if Bitcoin really grows to the level of fiat payment systems like Visa, MasterCard, etc, that won't be enough (even though it may ease things a lot in the short term). Regarding Lightning Network, it may be a good solution but it is still a solution to the "wrong" problem, i.e. a problem which shouldn't be there in the first place

And as such it will always remain a crutch unless we are going to change the "underlying" (let's call it undies) one day and make it run on bare metal, so to speak. Pruning the blockchain will come naturally then
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